EMs

[BrianFreud]

I do feel where the OG poster is coming from.....Chessy EM's do the same thing. i feel like they absolutely hate being Chessys em's....which is fine because most of the shard feels the same about them.... i attended one event there in the last year and was quickly reminded why i stopped going to them...........i was honestly ready to give up on the whole EM system and just be one of these people who goes to asian shards for the billion dollar drops........then i found Legends =) i really love that shard, and EM Avalon. She is so fun and so nice. She jokes and carries on with the players. she dosent vanish in a poof of smoke the second the event is over , glad to be away from us......she loves her players on legends and we love her. She is a shining example of what an EM should be................if your unhappy on your home shard move to Legends they dont mind taking in strays =) they welcomed me with open arms and ive felt more at home there than i ever did in my 15 years on chessy

I know you're not a fan of D&D, and that many rares collectors agree with you... but it's a HUGE leap to say that "most of the shard feels the same". Based on all the folks I know on Chessie who attend events, which is likely at least 75% of the people at any given event, I'd say that nearly all Chessie-local attendees love our EMs...

 

[BrianFreud]

When event starts, lock the door to the EM hall. End of event, EM gates to inside the hall, sets a clicky out, if you werent at the end of event you dont get anything... And just let the clicky set there for a few minutes, then close it down. At least this way people clouldnt click, run change accounts, come back click, ad nauseum, unless they had all those accounts at the end of event to catchc the gate. Theres lots of ways to solve the issue, but a lot of people dont really want it fixed, more souvenirs means less $$$ for them...

All I'd have to do is park my chars inside the EM hall, then log out

I agree with the concept, but this ^^ implementation wouldn't work.

 

[OREOGL]

Then don't go. Or transfer to a shard more your style.

I don't go and a lot of others don't either. Everytime I've been to one of their RP events, it's literally a handful of people there. That is pretty much the entire point of the thread, but again the all or nothing argument is weak.

Of course the dude that stood up in a crowd of people announcing he was a mayor in UO is going to think the RP events are great. And that's fine, but don't knock someone else for wanting a little change in the line up.

 

[MalagAste]

I don't go and a lot of others don't either. Everytime I've been to one of their RP events, it's literally a handful of people there. That is pretty much the entire point of the thread, but again the all or nothing argument is weak.

Of course the dude that stood up in a crowd of people announcing he was a mayor in UO is going to think the RP events are great. And that's fine, but don't knock someone else for wanting a little change in the line up.

A whole bunch quit long time ago because too many folk complaining all the time and interfering with the EM's and being vulgar and rude drove them away... They were enjoying or trying to enjoy the events but no longer do NOT because they are RP but because they couldn't follow the RP because too many jerks were there spamming spells, ignoring the EM's..... parking their dragons right on top of the EM's so no one could see WTF was going on... and everything else they could do to ruin the experience and such.

And I"m sorry but I agree with most the other folk here in saying that Malachi and Elizabella go above and beyond for GL's. They are two the the BEST EM's... and forgive me if folk like me get a bit bent when you criticize them for doing their jobs as intended. If there were things I were going to be critical of towards them I certainly wouldn't want to do it on the forums here... I'd personally email them. Perhaps you might want to try writing them.

 

[OREOGL]

A whole bunch quit long time ago because too many folk complaining all the time and interfering with the EM's and being vulgar and rude drove them away... They were enjoying or trying to enjoy the events but no longer do NOT because they are RP but because they couldn't follow the RP because too many jerks were there spamming spells, ignoring the EM's..... parking their dragons right on top of the EM's so no one could see WTF was going on... and everything else they could do to ruin the experience and such.

And I"m sorry but I agree with most the other folk here in saying that Malachi and Elizabella go above and beyond for GL's. They are two the the BEST EM's... and forgive me if folk like me get a bit bent when you criticize them for doing their jobs as intended. If there were things I were going to be critical of towards them I certainly wouldn't want to do it on the forums here... I'd personally email them. Perhaps you might want to try writing them.

Well man this has nothing to do with why they quit or the jerks that attend which include some of the rp community.


But when I come here to inquire abiut EM linits and changing it up and am not satisfied with doing spy events as a minimum, I am met with people who role play.

For example isn't Dot a governor? You proclaimed yourself as a mayor of yew(?) For how many years? And another is a guy who thinks hes a goblin etc etc

Of course none of you are going to look from the outside in. Instead it's " theyre doing a great job and Iif you dont like it then dont go".

 

[Uriah Heep]

We need a goblin as guv'ner!

 

[TheScoundrelRico]

I think the biggest issue is that the EMs only get minimal pay and only have a limited number of hours they can bill for their services per month. While it would be great if the job of EM could be a full time paid job...it isn't. Until it is, every EM is going to have limited time to prep and conduct the events they put on. There is a lot of back end work for the EMs and it's not as easy as just showing up and giving away pixel loot...la

 

[Lady CaT]

Well man this has nothing to do with why they quit or the jerks that attend which include some of the rp community.


But when I come here to inquire abiut EM linits and changing it up and am not satisfied with doing spy events as a minimum, I am met with people who role play.

For example isn't Dot a governor? You proclaimed yourself as a mayor of yew(?) For how many years? And another is a guy who thinks hes a goblin etc etc

Of course none of you are going to look from the outside in. Instead it's " theyre doing a great job and Iif you dont like it then dont go".

I'd recommend emailing your shard EM's with your concerns. Posting here usually just results in lots of pitchfork wounds, tar, feathers, and well you know....

 

[whiterabbit]

WOWZERS

 

[OREOGL]

I'd recommend emailing your shard EM's with your concerns. Posting here usually just results in lots of pitchfork wounds, tar, feathers, and well you know....

Its a good idea. I like to be proactive in reaching a goal.

I suppose the reluctance is assuming I will meet like minded people such as mal who tell me tough ****. Like it or leave it.

And thanks Rico, for the post. That could be the real reason and perhaps my expectations are unreasonable. But im not certain since those details aren't readily available.

 

[Dixie of Chesapeake]

I know you're not a fan of D&D, and that many rares collectors agree with you... but it's a HUGE leap to say that "most of the shard feels the same". Based on all the folks I know on Chessie who attend events, which is likely at least 75% of the people at any given event, I'd say that nearly all Chessie-local attendees love our EMs...

they may say that in game , but you forget how i love to talk lol....and i talk to soooo many people on icq..im worse than Varys on game of thrones with all my little birds =)... trust me people speak pretty openly to me for some reason...probly because i do also, never have been able to keep my mouth shut....honestly you and a handfull of others "maybe 6" are the only people i have talked to from chessy that are happy with the EMs.......and i know you dont just say that on stratics to save face, you really do like chessy ems but you are in the minority hun. i on the other hand could get banned for the stuff i say about them when talkin on icq LOL but it dosent matter....i love em Avalon =) and ill be gone come march anyway.....

 

[Dixie of Chesapeake]

I'd recommend emailing your shard EM's with your concerns. Posting here usually just results in lots of pitchfork wounds, tar, feathers, and well you know....

hey i miss you woman!!! come see me on legends some time =)

 

[Smoot]

Its a good idea. I like to be proactive in reaching a goal.

I suppose the reluctance is assuming I will meet like minded people such as mal who tell me tough ****. Like it or leave it.

And thanks Rico, for the post. That could be the real reason and perhaps my expectations are unreasonable. But im not certain since those details aren't readily available.

i agree, while i personally enjoy great lakes as one of the more painless EM shards, saying "if you dont like it dont go" is pretty much the worst, most demeaning response someone can give. Everyone should have a right to voice their opinions about EMs. I know i have and have been ridiculed for it. Old stratics even went as far as locking any post that was not 100 percent positive about EMs performance.

What we need is open discussion, otherwise how will the EMs even know if players are satisfied with the product they are providing? I dont accept the answer "they are the EM they can do whatever they want and if you dont like it leave" as a productive response to an inquiry about any paid service in life.

 

[BrianFreud]

they may say that in game , but you forget how i love to talk lol....and i talk to soooo many people on icq..im worse than Varys on game of thrones with all my little birds =)... trust me people speak pretty openly to me for some reason...probly because i do also, never have been able to keep my mouth shut....honestly you and a handfull of others "maybe 6" are the only people i have talked to from chessy that are happy with the EMs.......and i know you dont just say that on stratics to save face, you really do like chessy ems but you are in the minority hun. i on the other hand could get banned for the stuff i say about them when talkin on icq LOL but it dosent matter....i love em Avalon =) and ill be gone come march anyway.....

I'm actually talking about ICQ conversations as well, and with quite a few more than 6 Chessie players.

 

[Smoot]

Ill admit chessy is the running joke with the 10ish people i play UO with. The EMs put in so much effort, they do a really good job, but that extra half hour to an hour here and there of flat out staring at a screen of text rather than playing, combined with scheduling problems and a lack-luster rewards system prevents Chessy from living up to its potential of being a truly great Event shard.

When they get it, they nail it strong and hard. But theres so much to trudge thru in between that it can get to be very frustrating and not fun at times.

 

[Dixie of Chesapeake]

I'm actually talking about ICQ conversations as well, and with quite a few more than 6 Chessie players.

8 maybe then... haha im just pickin at ya

 

[Uriah Heep]

and ill be gone come march anyway.....

What!?!?!But you just got here!

 

[Dixie of Chesapeake]

What!?!?!But you just got here!

i only play late Oct. through the end of Feb. i do wildlife photography and soon as the birds come back from down south , the flowers begin to break the soil , and buds turn green i am out the door =) i hate being in the house lol id just sleep out by my pond if my husband wouldnt miss me lol

 

[whiterabbit]

I know you're not a fan of D&D, and that many rares collectors agree with you... but it's a HUGE leap to say that "most of the shard feels the same". Based on all the folks I know on Chessie who attend events, which is likely at least 75% of the people at any given event, I'd say that nearly all Chessie-local attendees love our EMs...

ems noes likes GOBLINS

 

[MalagAste]

Well man this has nothing to do with why they quit or the jerks that attend which include some of the rp community.


But when I come here to inquire abiut EM linits and changing it up and am not satisfied with doing spy events as a minimum, I am met with people who role play.

For example isn't Dot a governor? You proclaimed yourself as a mayor of yew(?) For how many years? And another is a guy who thinks hes a goblin etc etc

Of course none of you are going to look from the outside in. Instead it's " theyre doing a great job and Iif you dont like it then dont go".

I know that several quit because of some jerks who were attending the events and disrupting them because I actually cared about the people attending. And spoke with a great number of them.
Limits would mean an END to the EM events. Period. You know how FEW people want to be an EM? I would never do it. Not only do I not have the time but I haven't the patience for that sort of thing... It's not for anyone. With as few players as there are in UO anymore where in the **** do you think they are going to get MORE EM's when half the shards don't even have ONE?

I don't want to argue over who does or doesn't do what... I don't want to downplay your dislike of what Malachi and Elizabella do either. That's on you... but to ask the DEV's to have them removed just because you don't care for their work.... NO I will argue with you over that. I will stand up for everything they do and defend them. Why? Because not only do I enjoy what they do... I understand all the hard work and devotion they have to being our EM's and I happen to appreciate it, and I certainly don't want to see them sent to some other dead shard when they are doing just fine where they are.

 

[whiterabbit]

I know that several quit because of some jerks who were attending the events and disrupting them because I actually cared about the people attending. And spoke with a great number of them.
Limits would mean an END to the EM events. Period. You know how FEW people want to be an EM? I would never do it. Not only do I not have the time but I haven't the patience for that sort of thing... It's not for anyone. With as few players as there are in UO anymore where in the **** do you think they are going to get MORE EM's when half the shards don't even have ONE?

I don't want to argue over who does or doesn't do what... I don't want to downplay your dislike of what Malachi and Elizabella do either. That's on you... but to ask the DEV's to have them removed just because you don't care for their work.... NO I will argue with you over that. I will stand up for everything they do and defend them. Why? Because not only do I enjoy what they do... I understand all the hard work and devotion they have to being our EM's and I happen to appreciate it, and I certainly don't want to see them sent to some other dead shard when they are doing just fine where they are.

IFIN MEEES WAS AN EM ALLA DA FLAPY WINGS WOOD BEEES DEAD,ALONG WIF SOME UDDERS. 3 HR DEAD TOO

 

[Cyrah]

Some of the best times I had in 12 years of UO were at Em events. So were the worst. I rarely go to any shard events anymore.

I watched how the egos of some Ems hurt players feelings over and over and still do. Some Ems seemed actually bored at their own event. Some just talked about their personal lives.

Some were an absolute pleasure to be around and made any event fun no matter what it was. Some never left a player behind. Some asked for event ideas and actually did the feasible ones.

It is just personality.

 

[Lady CaT]

IFIN MEEES WAS AN EM ALLA DA FLAPY WINGS WOOD BEEES DEAD,ALONG WIF SOME UDDERS. 3 HR DEAD TOO

Do flappy ears count in that death toll?

*sets her goblin trap*
*places small sign reading 'King applications inside' with arrow pointing to trap door*

 

[OREOGL]

I know that several quit because of some jerks who were attending the events and disrupting them because I actually cared about the people attending. And spoke with a great number of them.
Limits would mean an END to the EM events. Period. You know how FEW people want to be an EM? I would never do it. Not only do I not have the time but I haven't the patience for that sort of thing... It's not for anyone. With as few players as there are in UO anymore where in the **** do you think they are going to get MORE EM's when half the shards don't even have ONE?

I don't want to argue over who does or doesn't do what... I don't want to downplay your dislike of what Malachi and Elizabella do either. That's on you... but to ask the DEV's to have them removed just because you don't care for their work.... NO I will argue with you over that. I will stand up for everything they do and defend them. Why? Because not only do I enjoy what they do... I understand all the hard work and devotion they have to being our EM's and I happen to appreciate it, and I certainly don't want to see them sent to some other dead shard when they are doing just fine where they are.

Where does one apply to be an EM if there are spots open?

No one asked you to downplay my dislike of RP events. In fact, you ignored my post entirely with "if you don't like it then don't go."

I didn't ask the devs to remove them, let's not twist words here. I asked if there were time limits.

But then again, your narrow view says more than enough.

 

[MalagAste]

Where does one apply to be an EM if there are spots open?

No one asked you to downplay my dislike of RP events. In fact, you ignored my post entirely with "if you don't like it then don't go."

I didn't ask the devs to remove them, let's not twist words here. I asked if there were time limits.

But then again, your narrow view says more than enough.

One applies to Broadsword...

 

[whiterabbit]

Do flappy ears count in that death toll?

*sets her goblin trap*
*places small sign reading 'King applications inside' with arrow pointing to trap door*

MEEE TINKS YOOS WAS MEEES FRIEND

 

[Lady CaT]

MEEE TINKS YOOS WAS MEEES FRIEND

Aww... You KNOW I love you! You are always welcome in my home!

*coughs* overthemantel *coughs*

I'm just kidding of course!


Wonders if EM really stands for Evil Minions?

 

[EM Corathan]

Wonders if EM really stands for Evil Minions?

That's just a silly rumor.












*Shifty Eyes*

 

[Uriah Heep]

One applies to Broadsword...

There's not enough money in the world for me to put up with the BS some of our EMs have to deal with.

 

[Angel of Sonoma]

one of the issues i have with EM events is the lack of communication regarding the event. for example:

• some of the events might be labeled 'sleuthing'. i've learned that these are nothing but talk.
  
• another non-descript event took us to Yew to fight spawn. i attended on my mage and when we got there i couldn't participate because 'you cannot cast spells in this town'. had i known in advance i would've brought my dexxer or tamer. by the time i switched characters the battle was over.
  
• lastly, it is so friggin frustrating when there are so many greater dragons and flapping gargoyle wings that you can't see the monsters to target them. using all names doesn't help because the monster is near dead by the time i find it. can the monsters be made bigger so they are easier to target? or make them cast area spells to clear an area within a 6 tile radius?

some of the EM's have been great. Dudley was one of my favorites. the last one we had on sonoma was sweet but left a lot to be desired (too few events and lack of imagination in my opinion). our new EM on sonoma is gung-ho. i hope she keeps up the good work and doesn't get burnt out by the jerks that harrass her.

 

[MalagAste]

i hope she keeps up the good work and doesn't get burnt out by the jerks that harrass her.

That's just what I keep saying. Had they heeded advice from the get go there wouldn't be any of that crap for them to have to "put up with". From the start it should have been made CLEAR that behavior like that would NOT be tolerated. EM's at the beginning should have been supplied with a GM to oversee WTF is going on.. and folk who are breaking the ToS should have been removed to jail... also if people couldn't listen and stand back they should have ENDED the events right there. They should not have allowed it from the start... been Firm from the start.. now it'd be too late... But still the EM's should be able to page a GM and have folk who are in violation of the ToS removed. Put them in jail for a few hours let them cool their jets.

It's like I've said before we no longer tolerate Bullies in Schools... we shouldn't allow them to dominate the game we love either by being disrespectful and disruptive and downright horrible to the EM's... no one deserves to have to tolerate the sort of BS that EM's do. No ONE. And sadly the good folk get driven away from the events by those same folk... not because that behavior is directed at them... but because they can't tolerate seeing it.

 

[S_S]

Well I wouldn't say we need to get GM's involved. Advisors on the other hand... do have the ability to "move" disruptive players around.

 

[Dot_Warner]

Well I wouldn't say we need to get GM's involved. Advisors on the other hand... do have the ability to "move" disruptive players around.

Emphatically NO.

Advisors are there to help other players with knowledge. In no way, shape, form, or fevered delusion should they be given policing powers. That can only end badly.

Broadsword needs to provide trained GMs that police the players, Mesanna, as producer, should be directly responsible for them. We've allowed her to hide behind the baffling "that's not my department" line for way, way too long.

 

[whiterabbit]

Emphatically NO.

Advisors are there to help other players with knowledge. In no way, shape, form, or fevered delusion should they be given policing powers. That can only end badly.

Broadsword needs to provide trained GMs that police the players, Mesanna, as producer, should be directly responsible for them. We've allowed her to hide behind the baffling "that's not my department" line for way, way too long.

NO P[OLICE !!!

 

[whiterabbit]

one of the issues i have with EM events is the lack of communication regarding the event. for example:

• some of the events might be labeled 'sleuthing'. i've learned that these are nothing but talk.
  
• another non-descript event took us to Yew to fight spawn. i attended on my mage and when we got there i couldn't participate because 'you cannot cast spells in this town'. had i known in advance i would've brought my dexxer or tamer. by the time i switched characters the battle was over.
  
• lastly, it is so friggin frustrating when there are so many greater dragons and flapping gargoyle wings that you can't see the monsters to target them. using all names doesn't help because the monster is near dead by the time i find it. can the monsters be made bigger so they are easier to target? or make them cast area spells to clear an area within a 6 tile radius?

some of the EM's have been great. Dudley was one of my favorites. the last one we had on sonoma was sweet but left a lot to be desired (too few events and lack of imagination in my opinion). our new EM on sonoma is gung-ho. i hope she keeps up the good work and doesn't get burnt out by the jerks that harrass her.

Dudley was one of my favorites ???? YOOOS HITIN DAT HOOKA?

 

[Smoot]

Emphatically NO.

Advisors are there to help other players with knowledge. In no way, shape, form, or fevered delusion should they be given policing powers. That can only end badly.

Broadsword needs to provide trained GMs that police the players, Mesanna, as producer, should be directly responsible for them. We've allowed her to hide behind the baffling "that's not my department" line for way, way too long.

they already have policing powers. they can move players, ive been "moved" when i went ahead of line of someone who was behind me afk. the advisor moved me to the back of the line, and pulled the afk player to his/her proper place. this was at a pacific dev meet and greet if i remember right. I was also moved to a graveyard when i was (and ill admit) semi-afk training chivalry at the bank. no GM or anything (i checked journal, and only maybe 3 mins had went by) just an advisor. So they do police a bit. It would be nice if we had GMs, but i really think with the skeleton crew thats just unrealistic at this point.

 

[The Zog historian]

EM's at the beginning should have been supplied with a GM to oversee WTF is going on.. and folk who are breaking the ToS should have been removed to jail... also if people couldn't listen and stand back they should have ENDED the events right there. They should not have allowed it from the start... been Firm from the start.. now it'd be too late... But still the EM's should be able to page a GM and have folk who are in violation of the ToS removed. Put them in jail for a few hours let them cool their jets.

Players causing trouble should simply be removed. If an EM gets frustrated enough to stop an event, then the new griefing tactic will be to "misbehave" and ruin it for everyone else.

I'm concerned, though, that a GM's net might erroneously be thrown over those who weren't involved. Imagine griefers showing up with the same name, or even the names of other players. I suppose GM manpower today is such that favoritism toward friends won't be common, but it's still possible. Years ago I was the victim of someone who was disrupting a group, then said the magic words, "I will ask you now to stop harassing me." His GM friend then had the excuse to whisk us all to jail.

 

[Dot_Warner]

they already have policing powers. they can move players, ive been "moved" when i went ahead of line of someone who was behind me afk. the advisor moved me to the back of the line, and pulled the afk player to his/her proper place. this was at a pacific dev meet and greet if i remember right. I was also moved to a graveyard when i was (and ill admit) semi-afk training chivalry at the bank. no GM or anything (i checked journal, and only maybe 3 mins had went by) just an advisor. So they do police a bit. It would be nice if we had GMs, but i really think with the skeleton crew thats just unrealistic at this point.

I can see them moving somebody during a meet & greet if asked by the devs, but moving you to a graveyard on what amounts to a whim sounds abuse of powery.

@Mesanna Advisors shoudn't be playing police.

 

[Aibal]

Gee Oreo, I don't know where you live in RL, but I'm really sorry you feel slighted over the holidays. Heaven forbid the EM's take time off from planning and executing events over the holidays. Wow. I finally realized they exist ONLY to serve your needs, the hell with their families/friends. Get a clue. I play multiple shards. GL easily has the best EM's of any shard I play. Good storylines, creative, lots of THEIR time invested. Again, I'm sorry that your thong is riding high due to a lack of holiday events. Sheesh. Next time I guess they should clear any time off with you before planning a holiday break that was posted well in advance.

 

[THP]

Lets just revamp the EM Events so to make them intended like they were intended to be

''The drops was a keepsake reminder of the event taking place''..... for everyone!!! especially the ''Home shard players''....examples.... hey look at that ' icey anchor' thats when we did the pirate event on europa....and ''nice magic flute''.... yes thats from the bard is lost event on europa.... etc etc...damn etc

NOT a gold mine for every Xsharder to sell them fir mega gold the second the event as concluded.

Pretty sure some common ground can be found...with ''clicky keepsakes'' mainly for the home shard players to treasure and enjoy ..... and maybe the odd uniquie prize on the boss for the big boys to fight it out on the old damager takes all....on there uber chars on every shard..

please???

I wil be emailing Mesanna direct about this....hope others will agree and support

 

[Dixie of Chesapeake]

i mentioned once before have Mesanna make 12 items " lets say 40 of each one per em, that should cover everyone at an event"... "the em s could name them anything they wanted to, and use them at any time" say one of the items is a fish graphic that is some funky color. em from chessy could use it in an event in january, where as an em on legends might wanna wait and use it in a spring time event. but the out come would be the same at the end of a 12 month cycle every shard will have got the exact same event items, but different events. that would stop the great need for x shard trading them.....it would also stop the "this em gives better stuff than that em" and if it were me, i wouldnt use any more new items. i would start using graphics of the em items that are already being used. i could go for one of them pretty blue waterfalls in my castle lol

 

[OREOGL]

Gee Oreo, I don't know where you live in RL, but I'm really sorry you feel slighted over the holidays. Heaven forbid the EM's take time off from planning and executing events over the holidays. Wow. I finally realized they exist ONLY to serve your needs, the hell with their families/friends. Get a clue. I play multiple shards. GL easily has the best EM's of any shard I play. Good storylines, creative, lots of THEIR time invested. Again, I'm sorry that your thong is riding high due to a lack of holiday events. Sheesh. Next time I guess they should clear any time off with you before planning a holiday break that was posted well in advance.

I actually got a chuckle out of this. Maybe it's me, but it wasn't really the point, it was geared towards seeing events on other shards during the holidays, but I get your point. I was just thinking, man, why can't we do that?

 

[OREOGL]

Lets just revamp the EM Events so to make them intended like they were intended to be

''The drops was a keepsake reminder of the event taking place''..... for everyone!!! especially the ''Home shard players''....examples.... hey look at that ' icey anchor' thats when we did the pirate event on europa....and ''nice magic flute''.... yes thats from the bard is lost event on europa.... etc etc...damn etc

NOT a gold mine for every Xsharder to sell them fir mega gold the second the event as concluded.

Pretty sure some common ground can be found...with ''clicky keepsakes'' mainly for the home shard players to treasure and enjoy ..... and maybe the odd uniquie prize on the boss for the big boys to fight it out on the old damager takes all....on there uber chars on every shard..

please???

I wil be emailing Mesanna direct about this....hope others will agree and support

Well now there's a thought, they can make the drops shard bound. Or just stop them altogether. *gasp*.

 

[Angel of Sonoma]

Well now there's a thought, they can make the drops shard bound. Or just stop them altogether. *gasp*.

during the sonoma meet & greet there were lots of complaints about off-sharders getting the drops and immediately selling the item. Mesanna clearly said she would not make the items shard bound. it was disappointing to hear that statement.

 

[OREOGL]

during the sonoma meet & greet there were lots of complaints about off-sharders getting the drops and immediately selling the item. Mesanna clearly said she would not make the items shard bound. it was disappointing to hear that statement.

Leave it to her to ruin a good idea.

 

[whiterabbit]

Leave it to her to ruin a good idea.

LAUFS

 

[Captn Norrington]

during the sonoma meet & greet there were lots of complaints about off-sharders getting the drops and immediately selling the item. Mesanna clearly said she would not make the items shard bound. it was disappointing to hear that statement.

She won't make them shard bound because they already tried that. A few years ago, the drops were account bound for a short time. It backfired so badly they stopped doing it.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

The original post has two main premises.

One, there are not enough EM events on Great Lakes, and the original poster wants more of them.

Two, the original poster does not like the EM events on Great Lakes.

Taken together this equals: "Hold more events that I will not like."

The premise that there are not enough events, relative to other shards, on Great lakes, cannot be sustained with reference to reality.

December events on GL:

http://greatlakes.uoem.net/?p=2995

5. A light month for GL, but still not bad. One of those events was the Governors' council meeting, one was an ongoing event that went on for about a week, and which judging by Global Chat comments and questions about it was pretty popular.

A more typical month was November:

http://greatlakes.uoem.net/?p=2977

7, including the Governors' council meeting.

And October:

http://greatlakes.uoem.net/?p=2977

8, including the council.

Let's check the much-vaunted Atlantic's December events:

http://community.stratics.com/threads/event-schedule-for-december-2014.328065/

2 listed here, no Council meeting for the month. Perhaps there are more December events posted elsewhere?

Catskills, December:

http://community.stratics.com/threads/decembers-events.328893/

Looks like 7, which is pretty good for a holiday month! But two are on the same day and are part of the same festival. A third event also is part of that same festival, but on a different day. And hey, aren't festivals RP by definition? And doesn't that mean the original poster likely would be as unhappy on Cats? (Imagine the post that said this shouldn't count as 7 events.)

LS December:

http://lakesuperior.uoem.net/?p=2397

5. Pretty good! But, oh wait. One looks to be a meet and greet. One looks to be a dart contest? A player could do that. One is the Council meeting. The other two seem RP themed which I think is good! But the original poster seems to disagree.

Baja:

http://community.stratics.com/threads/december-events-2014.327586/

3. Council meeting, regular event (holiday/seasonal themed), and.....pet battles? Players can do that, indeed on Great lakes there used to be a group that'd hold events like that weekly.

Maybe I miscounted some events in there or something. That must be it. But how much could that have mattered, really. How badly could I have miscounted that it'd make this argument more valid. I've provided links, go see.

The second main premise of the post, that the original poster does not like the events on Great Lakes, is about the preferences of the poster. That's not something you really can argue about, preferences are preferences. But I will point out that, if you look at the links I've provided, you'll see that the events that have taken place this week are either RP themed (in which case we're right back to the original poster not liking them), or are nothing a player couldn't do (in which case that generates another potential source of complaint).

And then of course there's the fact that the two premises, taken together, contradict one another.

This was a long-ish post. Many will say "TLDR." It takes but a few lines to spout things contrary to reality. Reality itself is trickier and takes time and space to present.

-Galen's player

 

[callum_fitzhugh]

That's just what I keep saying. Had they heeded advice from the get go there wouldn't be any of that crap for them to have to "put up with". From the start it should have been made CLEAR that behavior like that would NOT be tolerated. EM's at the beginning should have been supplied with a GM to oversee WTF is going on.. and folk who are breaking the ToS should have been removed to jail... also if people couldn't listen and stand back they should have ENDED the events right there. They should not have allowed it from the start... been Firm from the start.. now it'd be too late... But still the EM's should be able to page a GM and have folk who are in violation of the ToS removed. Put them in jail for a few hours let them cool their jets.

It's like I've said before we no longer tolerate Bullies in Schools... we shouldn't allow them to dominate the game we love either by being disrespectful and disruptive and downright horrible to the EM's... no one deserves to have to tolerate the sort of BS that EM's do. No ONE. And sadly the good folk get driven away from the events by those same folk... not because that behavior is directed at them... but because they can't tolerate seeing it.

Sorry to ignore the original post which I think has been covered in detail.

THIS is the problem with the EM Program. Policing the events. As soon as one single griefer had uttered any spam at the FIRST EM event they should have been teleshifted out of the area or put in jail or whatever. Events will continue to be griefed until the perps are stopped in their tracks.

 

[SpyderBite]

I miss the heavy handed, zero tolerance of the old school EM's. You got out of hand... poof.. you got teleported out of the area. And, my favorite.. more than one "Gimme!" and you were polymorphed in to a chicken with stat loss. XD