if it is the redeemer, i am going to be 20 milion richer in a few months hehehe. Maybe I will finally enter the world of the rich and the famous in UO. Clearly it is not the redeemer... LOL
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Man, reading this thread was painful.
Anyone can sell anything for whatever price they want. It's called commerce, capitalism, yadda, yadda. Anyway, if you're worried about being undercut then keep buying the cheaply priced items. Then you can even lower your price and still make a tidy profit right?
I highly doubt anyone has an endless supply of anything. Even dupes take time and planning. We haven't been hearing about any lately either so I doubt currently that duping is running rampant again.
BTW, I always sell for less than Luna vendors, just enough to be attractive to perspective buyers but not so low as to get a vendor to buy out all my stock and resell at a mark-up.
Anyone can sell anything for whatever price they want. It's called commerce, capitalism, yadda, yadda. Anyway, if you're worried about being undercut then keep buying the cheaply priced items. Then you can even lower your price and still make a tidy profit right?
I highly doubt anyone has an endless supply of anything. Even dupes take time and planning. We haven't been hearing about any lately either so I doubt currently that duping is running rampant again.
BTW, I always sell for less than Luna vendors, just enough to be attractive to perspective buyers but not so low as to get a vendor to buy out all my stock and resell at a mark-up.
It bothers me more that we don't have an in game way to search or advertise regardless of being in Luna.
I wanted to sell my Neon Yellow hair dye when ML first came out and never did and the price spans 2 mill to 30 mill across all shards. My character is bald.
I think some people price things after a search across all shards rather than a single shard.
I like stable prices, but you suggest price collusion and wink prices based on some search engine pricing. It seems like people put things on their vendor to get a search price then remove the item and put the same item on another vendor at the same house at a higher price.
If there is a big supply of something the price shouldn't be high even if some group of people agree to price fixing. Good thing its an open market.
-Lorax
I wanted to sell my Neon Yellow hair dye when ML first came out and never did and the price spans 2 mill to 30 mill across all shards. My character is bald.
I think some people price things after a search across all shards rather than a single shard.
I like stable prices, but you suggest price collusion and wink prices based on some search engine pricing. It seems like people put things on their vendor to get a search price then remove the item and put the same item on another vendor at the same house at a higher price.
If there is a big supply of something the price shouldn't be high even if some group of people agree to price fixing. Good thing its an open market.
-Lorax
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UOKaiser
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I doubt it also. I said that just because I bought one a month ago for 2mil just to have. I like the look of it then saw a few more for the same price the following weeks. Though I would guess it's a reactivated account or Idoc that the vender is selling. He should buy him out and resell it later. Probably why he don't want to give up what it is so that no comp takes his find and to make sure theres no new dupe around. like I said theres alot of competition between merchants using variety of tactics behind closed doors. he knows if he mentions it someone like me or me would instantly research it and if it's in my shard would buy it out if it's not a new dupe. He would lose the opportunity of resell.
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Smokin
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Hello Ma and Pop I would like you to meet Walmart.
Seriously though I like that people do this because I am sick of people controlling the market and forcing prices way up or keeping them up. The only time it is bad is if it is a dupe. If its legit then I have no sympathy for you or others.
Seriously though I like that people do this because I am sick of people controlling the market and forcing prices way up or keeping them up. The only time it is bad is if it is a dupe. If its legit then I have no sympathy for you or others.
I'm gonna tell ya what Rowan.....business is business, be lucky there isn't a buncha mafioso coming to your vendor demanding you pay protection, as it happens in real life.
For some odd reason, the players drowning in gold seem to think the majority of Ultimas population is loaded with gold like they are. Wrong. Where players get off calling themselves "merchants" is beyond me. As stated you're as bad as DeBeers.....you horde an item to keep the cost high. That's why diamonds cost so much.
I see players selling way below the par in Luna-tic land......good for them. That'll teach the rest not to be so pathetic in their pricing. This new gen of players has thier head in the clouds.......
Nothing personal, it's just business.
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For some odd reason, the players drowning in gold seem to think the majority of Ultimas population is loaded with gold like they are. Wrong. Where players get off calling themselves "merchants" is beyond me. As stated you're as bad as DeBeers.....you horde an item to keep the cost high. That's why diamonds cost so much.
I see players selling way below the par in Luna-tic land......good for them. That'll teach the rest not to be so pathetic in their pricing. This new gen of players has thier head in the clouds.......
Nothing personal, it's just business.
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UOKaiser
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that would be a waste of time those things don't update instantly.Like I stated before everything is like 10x times cheaper than it was last year yet everyone has 10Xmore gold so everything is messed up. Do you really think items are expensive? May you offer a example? Outside markets are usually very cheap where i do my shopping to resell in luna. Though Most people don't like to waste 10 hours searching outside but thats what we do.
I even have a home out of the way that i sell my excess items cheaper than anywhere in the shard for the resellers to buy from if they can find it. I don't advertise it the prices are too cheap. I don't stock it daily either. but when i do if anybody buys from there they can resell in luna for a good profit.
I say have an invasion in Luna and leave it looking like Magincia. Be done with Luna forever. No more search engines to locate items. Actually have to use your runes to travel to your favorite vendors all over the lands. Worst thing that ever happened in UO was Luna. I miss the old days, most of us do. I miss Brit bank the most, but you can't get people out of Luna. I don't even know if they would move if there was an invasion. Some would still be afk and dead weeks after. I say blow it up! 
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Victoria Navarre
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So what do you think this competitor of yours should do? Shut down his vendor just so you wont be upset? Or perhaps up his price to match yours so you'll be happy? Many have said that this game replicates the real world in alot of ways. It is very true in this case.In business,it's the "company" that can sell it for the least cost will be the ones that dictates the market price,not the "company" that looks for the highest profit margin.
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Smokin
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What is next asking for a bail out package like the auto industry.
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Malimus
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Ok honestly.... Tell us what this item is or shut up. The fact you wont even mention what this item is shows your maybe trying to keep the knowledge of what it is to yourself to protect your already destroyed market?... Thats comes off a little greedy as well imo. If no one knows what it is then no one can really help with an answer as to why its in such abundance on that guys vendor. Weather it be exploit, dupe, or just alot of stock.
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Celle
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Buying an item for 7mil and selling it for 10 mil in the next sec is what people called "rip-off". Whatever you said won't justify your action.
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Serine
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My guess would be planesword . nice to imbue to a mage wep .
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Stanton Of Pac
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Explain to me again exactly how much you paid for said 10M item. 2000 gold in gear, regs, and time? And it's worth 10 Million exactly why? The real problem here is not that someone is undercutting your 10M price, it's that players have 10 Million to spend on the junk you sell. About the only good thing to say for putting stuff on vendors for 10M is that the vendors' daily charge for holding the stuff is the only real gold sink in the game.
I believe you must be correct, lots of them for sale for at 2mil, I think your should win the prize, I couldn't figure it out
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Smokin
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I really don't understand what is so special about the plane sword other then it saves you on the cost of the ingredients to make spell channeling and fast cast. You could do almost the same with a DC hammer. I guess its just the no damage increase, if that is the case maybe they should just allow us to not put it on as a property.
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Jhym
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I might have been somewhat supportive of your position, but you keep insisting on insinuating that the other player is duping without proof or facts other than "he seems to have an endless supply".
Sort of like your endless willingness to buy them up from him.
So, one might conclude there are other duping issues going on.
If one was insinuating things.
Do you understand now what that does and why it undercuts your arguments?
Stick to arguing the pricing issues (which I somewhat agree, vendors shouldn't drastically undercut each other except for situations where it's a readily available item that is being heavily gouged.)
The other option you had would have been to discuss with the fellow a supplier action for all the other merchants, and, as a group, offer to pay him a premium over his price to resell them if he wouldn't put them out.
You know, price fixing and monopolization.
Sort of like your endless willingness to buy them up from him.
So, one might conclude there are other duping issues going on.
If one was insinuating things.
Do you understand now what that does and why it undercuts your arguments?
Stick to arguing the pricing issues (which I somewhat agree, vendors shouldn't drastically undercut each other except for situations where it's a readily available item that is being heavily gouged.)
The other option you had would have been to discuss with the fellow a supplier action for all the other merchants, and, as a group, offer to pay him a premium over his price to resell them if he wouldn't put them out.
You know, price fixing and monopolization.
I cant believe that is the item... come on...10 mill for a sword you can make with a dull copper hammer? Last time I checked those hammers where selling at 8k... so maybe you use 2 hammers before you get your SC no penalty weapon... surely not worth 10 mill.
Unless of course its price is a indication of its rarity... I simply cant believe it is because its a good base for imbuing.
Any thoughts?
Which would be iligal in the real world... at least where I liveYou know, price fixing and monopolization.
If this dude wants to sell his items at 2 mill I cant see why he shouldnt
(Unless he duped ofc then his ass should be banned)
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Evlar
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Any item is only worth what anyone is willing to pay for it.
Personally, when I have vendors, I prefer to sell at prices I'm (and buyers are) comfotable with, which will sell quickly. If a bloated Luna vendor want's to buy them off my vendor, put them on theirs at silly inflated prices, that's up to them... they're welcome to have them sat on their vendors, whilst I've got the gold in the bank.
Personally, when I have vendors, I prefer to sell at prices I'm (and buyers are) comfotable with, which will sell quickly. If a bloated Luna vendor want's to buy them off my vendor, put them on theirs at silly inflated prices, that's up to them... they're welcome to have them sat on their vendors, whilst I've got the gold in the bank.
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Connor_Graham
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This thread has me wondering now what the Luna vendors have to say about me and my shop. I know there's been quite a few that have gotten seriously ticked off at me over the past few years to the point they were doing whatever they could to try and damage my reputation. Their efforts just made me laugh.
Hi there,
that was a really long thread to read just because I was so curious about the item.
I can't understand how you can complain when people sell something that much cheaper.And when you are buying alot at that low price you can decrease your price.
Maybe there are no DI on planesword but it will only have 450 total intensity instead of 500 for smith made weapon.
And you can avoid the excep bonus...just a hint for you all.
Please tell me you are not talking about planesword.
People have hoarded those in hundreds so not strange that there are maaaaany left.
Regards
The Scandinavian
that was a really long thread to read just because I was so curious about the item.
I can't understand how you can complain when people sell something that much cheaper.And when you are buying alot at that low price you can decrease your price.
Maybe there are no DI on planesword but it will only have 450 total intensity instead of 500 for smith made weapon.
And you can avoid the excep bonus...just a hint for you all.
Please tell me you are not talking about planesword.
People have hoarded those in hundreds so not strange that there are maaaaany left.
Regards
The Scandinavian
Plain sword allows you to have 50 Hit Lighting in addition to -20 mage SC 15DCI.
That said to come here and cry about having to buy out a vendor just to keep your inflated values is funny at best. Tough luck.
I often sell imbued jewels for half of the cost of other luna vendors. No reason a person should be forking out the big coin for a 13/13 ring....its just a cheap item.
That said to come here and cry about having to buy out a vendor just to keep your inflated values is funny at best. Tough luck.
I often sell imbued jewels for half of the cost of other luna vendors. No reason a person should be forking out the big coin for a 13/13 ring....its just a cheap item.
Are you sure?
Total intensity is more than 500 on that weapon so not even possible to craft.
And if its not crafted it can only have 450 total intensity.
Regards
The Scandinavian
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UOKaiser
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Which sucks cause for some reason when one cable bill goes up every other cable bill goes up at the same time, same thing with home phoce,cell phone,dsl. Oh and don't get me started on the electric bill. I don't think companies care about price fixing or monopolies they hold in real life lol. If they get fined they just raise our rates to pay it. We always lose.Which would be iligal in the real world... at least where I live
If this dude wants to sell his items at 2 mill I cant see why he shouldnt
(Unless he duped ofc then his ass should be banned)
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UOKaiser
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I don't think it's plane swords as there has always being a abundace of them being stock piled that were never turned in at the clean up.
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Stupid Miner
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It's actually the buyers that set the prices much more than the sellers.
If a vendor prices an item too high, no one will buy it. He must then either lower prices, or have the item sit on his vendor forever until he goes broke.
It's not like the seller can force anyone to buy his items against their will.
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Also as a general comment, the term "monopoly" doesn't even apply to UO in any meaningful sense. *All* UO items are unessential, no one's starving to death due to overpriced food.
Also, anyone is capable of obtaining any item (except rares) in game through normal game play.
All UO items are in fact luxury items. And any player is more than capable of succeeding and excelling in any facet of UO, *if they know what they're doing* and for the most part, the information is free.
My guess is it involves something similar to the Citrine rings
No bug needed to make this fit. For some reason when you imbue it up the 50 lighting, 15 dci, SC and -20 magery add up to 450. You can make them all day long.
Sadly the shields are not in the same bucket but they do have 10 energy resist.
When you start to imbue the item I believe it starts around 130 total points which is wrong and that is the issue. Might it be the damage split? Or that there is no DI but hit 10 lighting at the start?
AL gives 40% DI, no AL gives 35.You beat me to it
Iam not sure but cant you avoid DI if you stone of Arms Lore?
On exceptional weapons that is...
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Kiminality
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No.
Like everything else in the game - you win some, you lose some.
But, when you play with bigger stakes, you stand to lose more.
What we have here is hubris.
You attempted to buy out this new vendor, in the hopes of maintaining the status quo (which is comparatively unbeneficial to the buyer).
You failed to do that, so you come here to complain.
On top of all that, you treat the identity of the item like some closely guarded secret.
A lack of transparency harms your position, because it seems that even when the situation is (as you seem to suggest) in the tubes, you won't even reveal this possibility. Even though if everyone knew about it, they'd probably clear out the vendor for you, and likely hoard them.
I will be honest in that I have little sympathy for Luna vendors. I see many items on Luna vendors selling for large amounts of gold (large being my subjective opinion, as I do not have much money), that I might not pull off of a corpse if i could not unravel it.
This being said, I might understand the OP being upset on a personal level as they are trying to maximize their profits, and the seller is cutting into that (particularly if the item in question might saturate the market enough so that potential buyers might not come back to re-buy the item for quite some time.
However, what if the seller had been offering a price of 5 mil. THis would still have undercut the OP by 50%, and the seller would still be able to sell out very quickly. I think the OP is just upset that someone is not playing by "the rules". And for this, my sympathy quickly dries up.
To the OP, how much could the seller have undercut your price and you not be upset with them?
This being said, I might understand the OP being upset on a personal level as they are trying to maximize their profits, and the seller is cutting into that (particularly if the item in question might saturate the market enough so that potential buyers might not come back to re-buy the item for quite some time.
However, what if the seller had been offering a price of 5 mil. THis would still have undercut the OP by 50%, and the seller would still be able to sell out very quickly. I think the OP is just upset that someone is not playing by "the rules". And for this, my sympathy quickly dries up.
To the OP, how much could the seller have undercut your price and you not be upset with them?
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GL_Seller
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HAHAHA the plane swords are u ****ing serious. These things were so easily gotten what a joke. I had over 300 before i turned them in for points. If this person didnt turn them in for points there is no reason they couldnt have a truck load of them lieing around....Then again i guess its easier to say hes duping right....
As for the people saying u can make them with a dc hammer you are WAY out of the loop. When u can make a -20 scnp 15 dci 50 lightning weapon starting with a hammer let me know. Its impossible. The only reason the plane sword is able to do this is because for some reason its not counting either the fc1 property or the sc property. So it allows you to add one extra property then you should be allowed to. No its not a hack u just add the items no special words or movement just add them to it.
As for the people saying u can make them with a dc hammer you are WAY out of the loop. When u can make a -20 scnp 15 dci 50 lightning weapon starting with a hammer let me know. Its impossible. The only reason the plane sword is able to do this is because for some reason its not counting either the fc1 property or the sc property. So it allows you to add one extra property then you should be allowed to. No its not a hack u just add the items no special words or movement just add them to it.
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longshanks
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see the same thing on sonoma, one vendor some how has endless supplies of heartwood fletching kits for 2 mil when the normal cost is 10m at most. and it was even like this before the last change to heartwood quests that made kits drop more often. Ill admit some vendors probably dont like me and my vendor, I price items with regards to how hard it was for me to acquire. I get a AoF from doom and sell it for 17m, not to undercut but because the people trying to get 30m for one are out of thier mind and it didnt take that much effort to get.
They will fix the plane swords. The first morning it was discovered a guy I know sent me an icq. I didn't get involved because the sword isn't working properly.
Sometimes I set prices on atl. The way you set the price is you go get more of them than anyone else very quickly. I don't understand the people that pay us fortunes on the first day for stuff, but hey I get it. You're so rich you want everything and don't want to do anything to get it. Cool, I'll get it for you.
The market for everything dies, rapidly. You make billions on sa resources, then you can't give them away. You have to move on. Costumes should have been BIG, but they weren't. That's ok too. Move on. We might get paid restoring Magincia, or we might not. There is plenty of money to be made in uo. I never get mad if someone undercuts my price. The other day someone offered me 100 gold each for 5k residue. I used to get 2k each for them. I've got mountains of them. I laughed and said no. Now, I'll probably never sell them, but who cares. I'm not going to give them away. I'll continue to stack them up.
A lot of things are being duped. Most people know which things, no point speaking about it. Here's how you tell. When there's an item where 5-10 of something dropped 5-7 years ago, and you find 20 people trying to sell you one, its duped.
I like Rowan he's a really nice guy. Raven's nice too. She's a better merchant than Rowan, and probably than I am. I'm better at getting stuff. We're all stinking rich. Woohoo!! Let's just be glad we're having such a good time and not get caught up in how much we make at any one time or on any one item.
Sometimes I set prices on atl. The way you set the price is you go get more of them than anyone else very quickly. I don't understand the people that pay us fortunes on the first day for stuff, but hey I get it. You're so rich you want everything and don't want to do anything to get it. Cool, I'll get it for you.
The market for everything dies, rapidly. You make billions on sa resources, then you can't give them away. You have to move on. Costumes should have been BIG, but they weren't. That's ok too. Move on. We might get paid restoring Magincia, or we might not. There is plenty of money to be made in uo. I never get mad if someone undercuts my price. The other day someone offered me 100 gold each for 5k residue. I used to get 2k each for them. I've got mountains of them. I laughed and said no. Now, I'll probably never sell them, but who cares. I'm not going to give them away. I'll continue to stack them up.
A lot of things are being duped. Most people know which things, no point speaking about it. Here's how you tell. When there's an item where 5-10 of something dropped 5-7 years ago, and you find 20 people trying to sell you one, its duped.
I like Rowan he's a really nice guy. Raven's nice too. She's a better merchant than Rowan, and probably than I am. I'm better at getting stuff. We're all stinking rich. Woohoo!! Let's just be glad we're having such a good time and not get caught up in how much we make at any one time or on any one item.
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longshanks
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what a load of self serving hooey.
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Smokin
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I said about the dc hammer, I am not saying you can get all that on the item you made but you can get a SC weapon to add to. The only thing is you wont be able to add the 50 lightning most likely. I am pretty sure you could get the dci and mage property though at full intensity.
After I read the post below in the next thread I clicked this pm I have to say that my sympathy for your situation has waned to 0 (zero)
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Re: What are you worth - VERSION II
Well, lets see....
My Main is 120 magery/eval/resist/med/focus/resist so there is about 100Mil for the scrolls. Wears Sorcerer's suit- another 35 Mil. Imbued shield that cost 10 mil and 30 Mil in Jewels and various other items on. So that character alone is worth over 200 Mil.....
With all my characters gear, event items, true rares and such I figure my account is worth just a little over 15 Billion gold.
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Rowan Elizabeth - Mage
Call me Eric, Rowan is named for my beautiful daughter.
ICQ# 568.300.481
Copied from other thread:
Re: What are you worth - VERSION II
Well, lets see....
My Main is 120 magery/eval/resist/med/focus/resist so there is about 100Mil for the scrolls. Wears Sorcerer's suit- another 35 Mil. Imbued shield that cost 10 mil and 30 Mil in Jewels and various other items on. So that character alone is worth over 200 Mil.....
With all my characters gear, event items, true rares and such I figure my account is worth just a little over 15 Billion gold.
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Rowan Elizabeth - Mage
Call me Eric, Rowan is named for my beautiful daughter.
ICQ# 568.300.481
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Megilhir
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Auto vendor search script? What is this you write of?
Hell I don't even know how to run a script...ack!!!
I don't buy stuff for millions. Even hard to get me to part with 10K.
And you know what, I have a blast when I play UO.
Here is a physical challenge for all that think wealth is the end all of UO.
Go to your home (or a local bank).
Strip.
That's right! GIT Neeeked!!!
Now take you nudy booty out into the wild and see how far you get just with the resources gathered from the land. (Player Vendors count here). No going back to town or your house until you get a full set of gear.
Can you do it?
If not then I seriously question your ability to truly play the game as intended and not exploit as the farce it can become.
10 Million for an item... PAH-LEEEEZZZZ!
Hell I don't even know how to run a script...ack!!!
I don't buy stuff for millions. Even hard to get me to part with 10K.
And you know what, I have a blast when I play UO.
Here is a physical challenge for all that think wealth is the end all of UO.
Go to your home (or a local bank).
Strip.
That's right! GIT Neeeked!!!
Now take you nudy booty out into the wild and see how far you get just with the resources gathered from the land. (Player Vendors count here). No going back to town or your house until you get a full set of gear.
Can you do it?
If not then I seriously question your ability to truly play the game as intended and not exploit as the farce it can become.
10 Million for an item... PAH-LEEEEZZZZ!
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Tinsil
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Actually, playing the role of the merchant has been what I've done since I started, right before UOR. It and PVP have always been the most fun parts of the game.
Having players who are merchants is an intended part of the game.
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slaveone
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I find this quote pretty crazy coming from someone who is buying up cheap items just to raise the price on them to make an easy profit. When the person your complaining about is doing exactly the same thing except in reverse. Second when i see you at Luna bank spamming about buying items and then offering to buy said items for such low prices that if someone was actually dumb enough to sell to you would be ripping themselves off completely.
I guess you only hate these types of practices when it is someone other than yourself that is practicing said practices. Your a hypocrite plain and simple....
O.K. So because I have been in game off and on for 12 years and I am worth a lot it negates all the things I said? Yes, I am worth somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 Billion gold, but in actuality I have lees than 20 Mil gold spread out among 12 characters and 2 accounts. I do deal in very high end items, that is what I enjoy doing. Some enjoy getting ganked by 6 noobie sampires running through static items and casting 6 spells at once at fel gate. I enjoy buying and selling. I also gather and craft.
Some of you have totally missed all the points I was trying to make. This issue does not just affect me, if it did I would just move on along. This affects multiple vendors and has negative impacts on the general economy of UO.
I do not mention the item in question because I do not want to name names or have it so someone can figure out who I am talking about. I do have that much respect for the TOS and ROC of Stratics. But you are welcome to insert any item you like. In fact if you like you can use the 100k versus 20k version for those of you that have an issue with 10 mil being out of your league.
I have not accused anyone of anything. I have insinuated that nefarious means could have possibly been used. I have not outed anyone and been very careful to not falsely accuse anyone of anything. If you read my posts in this thread you would see that.
I was not trying to drive prices up or make a huge profit on the items and yes, I tried to buy all that the vendor had as did at least 2 other people and yet within an hour the vendor was restocked with the item in quantities of 10 to 12. All I was trying to do was make a small profit off of an item that I paid 7 mil for. All I did by buying 20+mil worth of the item was make it so I had more of the item that I can not even sell for what I paid for it because the price on said vendor got cut in 1/2 again, but I also furthered the wealth of the owner of the vendor.
Being a merchant is always a gamble and I do realize that. I started this thread more as a discussion than a crying session. I expected that some would flame me, I am always used to that on this message board. I expected to see some Trolls and I was not disappointed by that either. What I didn't expect is the very specific attacks against me from people who do not know me at all, nor my game style. Some of it looks like petty jealousy for me having more than them.
Just a little about me so that you have a better picture of what I am about. I make free runebooks and free full spell books for new players all the time. I mark every single location that a house would fit and give runes to noobies with a house placement tool and the money to place on a regular basis. I give away 100% LRC suits almost every day and try to keep my vendor stalked with 25k 100% LRC suits.
Yes, I have nice things but I did earn them from years of game play. I have never ripped anyone off (unless you count buying items for below market value and selling them at market value as one stated was the definition of ripping someone off.) I have never scammed anyone out of anything(unless you consider making an offer that is below market value.) I have never used an exploit or an illegal program. I have been scammed many times and have had people use exploits on me.
In my 12 years of playing I have never received a negative mark on any of my accounts. I know most of you don't care about any of this and that is fine, I am not hear to make friends. I just had no idea that I would be making enemies from the original post.
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Tinsil
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Uh, if you have so much gold and have done it for so long, why even make the thread?
It's just part of the game. Undercutting and not letting other people know how much stock you have aren't like cardinal sins or anything here.
What're you worried about anyways if you have 15 billion gold in stuff?
It's just part of the game. Undercutting and not letting other people know how much stock you have aren't like cardinal sins or anything here.
What're you worried about anyways if you have 15 billion gold in stuff?
Just know I don't hate you, I wasn't flaming you. in fact, I am quite impressed by your dedication to the game. I merely am a bit flabergasted that you complain about loosing amounts of gold that are quite huge for me, but that are like drops on a hot plate for you.
All along I have suspected you had concerns about the legitimacy of the source of those items. Anyhow, don't think I think badly about you. I just can't feel sorry for your loss. Percentage wise I loose the same percentage of my capital with each death in insurance money. And judging from many replies here, there are more people that feel that way. Perhaps stratics was not the right forum.
All along I have suspected you had concerns about the legitimacy of the source of those items. Anyhow, don't think I think badly about you. I just can't feel sorry for your loss. Percentage wise I loose the same percentage of my capital with each death in insurance money. And judging from many replies here, there are more people that feel that way. Perhaps stratics was not the right forum.
Agreed. I would have said nothing had I known it was going to stir up such a hornets nest. Although, reading back through the thread it appears that the thread at least sparked some interest and some pretty intelligent discussion. It is, however, just a game. If you see me around in game say howdy and I will be happy to buy you a brew.
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Smokin
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Making an offer below market value can be a scam, it depends if you just say I will give you this much and walk away if they say no. If you pester and say things to convince the person then you are a low life trying to scam in my eyes. Wheelin dealin stealin type.
I'm not sure how you deal in high end items if you only have 20 mil gold unless your not counting millions on vendors, either way I really don't understand you.
How does this ruin the economy of UO, it makes things cheaper if anything, are you sure you don't work for General Motors. Its obvious you are upset because now you can't make gold from this deal. It really only ruined your economy.
Ah well if your upset I am sorry but I really don't have sympathy for merchants or as I said earlier Wheeler Dealer Stealers.
I'm not sure how you deal in high end items if you only have 20 mil gold unless your not counting millions on vendors, either way I really don't understand you.
How does this ruin the economy of UO, it makes things cheaper if anything, are you sure you don't work for General Motors. Its obvious you are upset because now you can't make gold from this deal. It really only ruined your economy.
Ah well if your upset I am sorry but I really don't have sympathy for merchants or as I said earlier Wheeler Dealer Stealers.
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Stupid Miner
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... as for the legitimacy of planeswords, if they are the object in question, no reason to assume they were duped, obsessive collectors could have easily stored hundreds of them. They were simple (-ish) to get, and most people didn't even loot them off corpses.
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Budweiser KDL
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Lower your price or start selling something else. Problem solved. I Sell all and every item below every vendor on my shard. I use search UO, find the lowest price and undercut it. I don't like waiting for my stuff to sell. I love OP's like you. You drive my business.
Thank You,
Bud
Thank You,
Bud
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