Comparing tamer vs. non-tamer stat requirements

[Aurelius]

Ever been to an EM event? Most times all you can see are wings and dragon heads when the EM spawns the mob.

Regularly attend EM events GDs and tamers are always heavily outnumbered by other characters.

It's just yet another rant against tamers - you have such a huge grudge against a template in a game you are just blind to anything other than bashing of tamers, and you simply won't accept any argument against your bias.

 

[Hunters' Moon]

Regularly attend EM events GDs and tamers are always heavily outnumbered by other characters.

Frankly, all you ever post are rants against tamers - you have such a huge grudge against a template in a game you are just blind to anything other than bashing of tamers, and you simply won't accept any argument against your bias.

You consider this thread I started a rant? Not even close. Read my opening post. It was a simple question as to why the taming skills are not burdened by stat balance.

 

[Aurelius]

Other templates are more powerful, but more expensive, require more player skill and are more dangerous. Plus some people may just not like it. That said I see a butt ton of tamers in the pvm field.

'Skill' is always debateable, but cost certainly is true, it's more expensive to fully outfit many other templates than it is to 'equip' a tamer, in UO gold terms. But it's only one template, it's not even remotely a majority one, yet always someone pops up to complain it's the 'easy button, no skill way you play UO, or proclaiming it's too 'easy' compared to the investment required to build other templates'.

Nonsense of an argument. It's a way to play a game, if people enjoy it they will play it, if it were the horribly overpowered option Hunter's Moon portrays it as, you'd not see the massive numbers of pretty much every other template compared to tamers.

 

[Aurelius]

You consider this thread I started a rant? Not even close. Read my opening post. It was a simple question as to why the taming skills are not burdened by stat balance.

'Burdened'? Come off it .... there's no lack of fully functional, top range non-tamer templates out there, and tamers make up only a small percentage of the people you see at EM events, top end creature hunts or pretty much any other aspect of the game.

 

[Lord Frodo]

How many kegs? How many doses of poison did you apply to daggers in those three days? How many thousands,hmm?

And how many 10s of thousands of pets did you have to go find and tame then wait for respawn just to get to 100 taming.

 

[Cogniac]

This thread amuses me. Its entire premise is predicated on the idea that they aren't making more and more monsters use necromancy and area effect spells to re-target and one-hit-kill any tamer audacious enough to try to stand within 2 tiles of their pet to use Veterinary.

 

[Uvtha]

'Skill' is always debateable, but cost certainly is true, it's more expensive to fully outfit many other templates than it is to 'equip' a tamer, in UO gold terms. But it's only one template, it's not even remotely a majority one, yet always someone pops up to complain it's the 'easy button, no skill way you play UO, or proclaiming it's too 'easy' compared to the investment required to build other templates'.

Nonsense of an argument. It's a way to play a game, if people enjoy it they will play it, if it were the horribly overpowered option Hunter's Moon portrays it as, you'd not see the massive numbers of pretty much every other template compared to tamers.

Well like I said I don't think taming is over powered. As for ease I've been maining a tamer since 98, and have also played a sampire and a mage, and other characters and found all of them to be considerably more skill intensive than the tamer which is basically yell all kill, start bandaging/ghealing, and invis whenever I need to switch agro to my pets. Strictly talking pvm here of course.

 

[Basara]

The best of both worlds in a PVM aspect is frankly NOT PLAYING UO AS A SINGLE-PLAYER GAME.

You bring a Tamer to Tank with his GD; then a friend brings whatever character floats his boat (or, vice-versa). This works on any fight that isn't hell on pets in general.

What can be really effective is are two tamer/bards - one a provo specialist, one a disco specialist. Each of you uses mastery to buff the pets or weaken the target, and the options as to what pets are useful for the fight expands greatly.

Another option for 2 players where pets aren't welcome is a tanking Sampire and a mystic archer or thrower. The archer provides ranged damage & heals.

Playing with the idea that one has to have the most incredible equipment RMT can buy to max out stats so you can solo stuff is something that belongs in a single-player game, not an MMO.

 

[Felonious Monk]

Because its not a spell. Its just saying something. Why would saying "go kill that" take mana? Do you feel your essence draining when you tell your dog to fetch a stick?

Bank! "system msg" Thou dost not have the mana to complete the spell.

 

[Rand Althor]

Sorry... I didn't read the whole thread... I got ticked off right away... as usual a bunch of whiners who didn't take the time to build a tamer (cause it's a large investement in time..) whining that tamers have it all.. well they don't leave them alone... I for one haven't played my tamer since they nerfed GD's a year or more ago.. I play my dexer, there's nothing I haven't been able to take care of, using him, no yelling, no waiting for a response, no pain in bring them to areas... just jump on my ethy and go, really fast in-out pleasurable. Playing a tamer at times can be very frustrating... but people don't take that into consideration - easy of playing a non tamer..

Taming - can be a pain.. and what the non taming whiners don't have to deal with is the hours-days-weeks of getting a pet trained (pre-trained they are all useless)... then have a fully trained pet the dies, stat loss and the hours-days getting it back... anyone elses template - res - get gear and your 100% again..

Tamming can't be compared to melee or other players, there is a huge difference, it's not like comapring Mage vs. Dexer, etc..

I need a sig.. something that goes along with... UO Team isn't turning me off UO... UO is pretty good ingame... it's all the dam Whiners that turn me off.. anyone help me with a sig.. may want to reword it a bit... But I like it.