Anymore 'hearsay/proof' regarding bans ?

[RawHeadRex]

other thread was locked for a valid reason. but are there any more ban stories out there that can be talked about without crossing the line ? thanks

 

[ohmyGED]

No........ but I did just save a bundle on my car insurance.

 

[jaraxlebaenrae]

No........ but I did just save a bundle on my car insurance.

LOL

Hall Of Fame post!!!

 

[Taylor]

No bans reported in my guild.

 

[Zosimus]

I have only seen this once ever but now I can claim it 2 times. Last night in ter mur I know of this miner that comes in and out. I was running by the same spot he comes in and I saw a GM for a split second appear then disappear. Guess what happened next? The miner comes in and then goes poof. So it looks to me they are still doing soemthing. Just wanted to get that in before lock

 

[Taylor]

Hmm...odd that the GM would even manifest. Nowadays, they seem to do most of their work sans avatar.

 

[Zosimus]

Yeah what I thought but hey who knows the workings of a GM. Not my place to ask wth you showing up as a player in the game? lol I remember one day at Luna some guy talking like to himself. Finally a few of us asked what he was doing. He said he was talking to a GM which we couldnt see but he said the GM was standing in front of him. I have delt with them before. Sometimes they showed up other times I couldnt see them. Havent had a need for a GM in a long time so I dont know how it all works now days.

 

[Beer_Cayse]

and I stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night.

 

[Beer_Cayse]

I might be they manifest until they can hit invis tag.

 

[cdavbar]

I have a feeling this thread will too get locked.

There has been a mass of bannings and im not talking 4 or 5.

If you want proof you just got to dig around. If you look hard enough you can even find out what the bans are for.

But thats all i will say because I like to not get points for breaking this forums RoC

Good Day!

 

[a slave girl]

Not sure but Pac was pretty dead last night then suddenly today around 1:13 pm central I see 4 players known to pvp suddenly make appearances in Luna.

I passed a comment in general chat if their 24 hour bans were over with no replies.

For those who were only found to be cheating occassionally who were supposed to get warnings.

I actually ran around looking for some of their houses in Fel last night, just preparing for possible future idocs.

 

[Taylor]

The last thread was locked because folks couldn't stop attacking each other. The thread also completely departed from the original topic--proof of bannings--to a massive argument about whether banning is good or bad.

I suspect that this thread will remain open, as long as it stays on topic and doesn't undergo a similar devolution. Then again, I'm just an ordinary poster in this forum, so I could be completely wrong.

 

[Petra Fyde]

I know it's something everyone wants to discuss, try to keep the conversation general, without personal attacks and accusations.

 

[Pinco]

I didn't saw anymore a miner scripter and a lumberjacker.
I'm a bit sad for those 2 because everytime I goes to the bank I saw them recalling... everydays... at any hours... now is so empty this bank

 

[Lord Chaos]

Still don't know anyone, not even those I know who cheats, that have been banned or got a warning.

 

[THP]

L'est it be said on europa alone ...2 castles have been placed on empty grass in the last week or so...me i placed one ...just walked into a empty grass space in trammel !! hit the tool and bang ...castle apperared ....now i know europa aint the busiest shard but its def not dead either...kinda a middle populated shard...and castle placement on empty grass as always been a no no,,, so for sudden to appear with no idoc fallers ..just huge grass space.....im kinda guessing we lost a couple of scripters on europa...but this is hearsay of course.

 

[Basara]

We only have 2 PvP guilds of any appreciable size on LA, and one of them was nearly MIA across the board last night. You should have heard the other guild trying to take credit for it.....

 

[RawHeadRex]

last few nights while training I ... ya i was training skills fighting red brigands near their tents and one of them ... um ... kept running around like a crazy person, tabbing in and out of war mode... all the while not attacking me even when I was one tile away from them. I can only assume it was a Dev/GM checking to see if I was scripting or UM'n or God knows what. They never spoke to me yet I am positive it was under some sort of control... it was fast as heck too while it was running around. I tried to talk to them many times but got no response. I said, "aren't you adorable, were are we going ?" lol Then all of a sudden ... somehow I was put into war mode and killed them but I never attacked or engaged them. I even said 'sorry' lol cause it was so entertaining to watch them.

I tell ya it's the little things in this game that make me smile so much.

 

[Llewen]

I wonder if the reason why it took so long to see any action against cheaters was that they had to train the gm's? I mean "long" as in the past few months, not "long" as in the past 13 years...

 

[Sevin0oo0]

and I met interesting singles in my area

 

[cdavbar]

Many people have been banned for ch***engine as for the scripting program(s) that shall not be named so far only unattended macroers have been banned. This information comes strait off a programs that shall not be named forums. It pays to become a member of these forums so you can see everyone cry about how they got banned and for what program(s) they got banned for.

It also proves that program that shall not be named is only detectable if you are unattended.....if you are able to answer a GM then they cant prove anything.

 

[Llewen]

if you are able to answer a GM then they cant prove anything.

I'd be careful about making categorical statements like that one...

 

[Nyses]

I asked again last night in a couple of diff vents, and no one knew of anyone who has been ban. On Pac that is.

So, I got nothing for proof, sorry.

 

[Going Going Gone]

I suspect that some shards are going to be hit harder than others. For example, I live on the east coarst and played Atlantic for years, pinging about 40-50. The vast majority of the time I pvped against players there, I was seriously outruned.

Later I started to play west coast shards. I would ping 100-120 on, lets say Sonoma, and I could usually keep up with everyone.

Go figure!

 

[WootSauce]

I suspect that some shards are going to be hit harder than others. For example, I live on the east coarst and played Atlantic for years, pinging about 40-50. The vast majority of the time I pvped against players there, I was seriously outruned.

Later I started to play west coast shards. I would ping 100-120 on, lets say Sonoma, and I could usually keep up with everyone.

Go figure!

this is evidence of mass bans how?

 

[Kiminality]

this is evidence of mass bans how?

It's not. It's talking about how, presumably, some shards will be hit harder than others.
Wait... Deja vu?
Oh, yeah, the guy already said that in his post.
Observing that he was outrun more often on shards to which he pinged lower to, than shards he pinged higher to, and the implication that there were more speedhackers on the lower-ping shard.

 

[Flutter]

The cheaters are still running amok on Catskills...

 

[Going Going Gone]

this is evidence of mass bans how?

Just stating that some shards won't have as much "evidence" as others. :gun:

 

[Ls Jax Ls]

Sounds like a bunch of ridiculous rumors to me.Just because people were banned for unattended macroing doesn't mean they detected it.

 

[hawkeye_pike]

I didn't saw anymore a miner scripter and a lumberjacker.
I'm a bit sad for those 2 because everytime I goes to the bank I saw them recalling... everydays... at any hours... now is so empty this bank

Maybe EA should put in more NPCs so you won't feel so alone?

 

[Bobar]

I have heard nothing one way or the other but as for some shards being hit and others not that makes sense. GMs cant do all shards at once after all.

 

[ingsmsico]

There is not a single shred of evidence of anything in this entire thread.

 

[Heimi]

There is not a single shred of evidence of anything in this entire thread.

You came into this UHall thread expecting evidence? Oh you poor misguided lamb..rolleyes:

 

[Mandrake of DF]

If you read the producer's update from 10th september 2010, it says this;

Mythic Entertainment | Ultima Online - Producer's Update 9/10/2010

What’s going on with 3rd party program detection?

This week the first series of actions took place on 3rd party program use offenders. I will not share numbers or specifics on account names, locations of offenders, or how often we will take action.

Criteria for taking action are based on frequency of the offense. For example, account X was found using program Y, Z number of times. This implies that the account/player willfully violated the terms of the game. High frequency violators will be removed from the game. Low frequency violators will be warned and in time suspended if the offense continues.

Flames, vegetable throwing, and other creative methods of termination and suspension are not currently planned.

UO Assist and UOAM are sanctioned applications.

So, I guess its some truth in the bans - but my guess is that its just a 24hrs ban. Cuz EA is too much in love with the montly payments.....

 

[ohmyGED]

I'll leave it at hearsay, you choose to believe what you want:

I know at least a half dozen different players with several accounts that had repercussions for using third party programs that are not sanctioned by EA.





I am only repeating what I know and have heard from people.

 

[Llewen]

So, I guess its some truth in the bans - but my guess is that its just a 24hrs ban.

First offence bans for anything that isn't extremely serious in UO have tended to be 48 hour bans.

 

[Lord Chaos]

I'll leave it at hearsay, you choose to believe what you want:

I know at least a half dozen different players with several accounts that had repercussions for using third party programs that are not sanctioned by EA.





I am only repeating what I know and have heard from people.

Aren't you a selfproclaimed troublemaker? So why should we believe you?

 

[Nastia Cross]

Aren't you a selfproclaimed troublemaker? So why should we believe you?

Because in this instance, he's actually telling the truth. And the people who were banned in the "first wave" were really perma-banned. I guess none of you saw the posts in the other thread from the guy who WAS banned.

 

[Mandrake of DF]

Because in this instance, he's actually telling the truth. And the people who were banned in the "first wave" were really perma-banned. I guess none of you saw the posts in the other thread from the guy who WAS banned.

Reading other forums, it says they got 72hrs bans - not one post anywhere they got a perma ban.

If u get a perma ban, I guess u have too many marks on your account from before.

 

[Lynk]

From what I've heard the bans all tie back to UMing.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

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[Omnius]

I suspect that some shards are going to be hit harder than others. For example, I live on the east coarst and played Atlantic for years, pinging about 40-50. The vast majority of the time I pvped against players there, I was seriously outruned.

Later I started to play west coast shards. I would ping 100-120 on, lets say Sonoma, and I could usually keep up with everyone.

Go figure!

40-50 is very slow if you're an east coast player. I've played from several locations to ATL and never pinged higher than 23.

 

[ohmyGED]

Aren't you a selfproclaimed troublemaker? So why should we believe you?

"I'll leave it at hearsay, you choose to believe what you want."

I'm not asking you to believe me.



And yes, I like to cause trouble.

 

[Llewen]

The other thread on the bans mentioned a very specific third party program which is not the macroing/scripting one.

The program mentioned is made for browser-based games but some claim it also works with UO, even though it really shouldn't. The program allows you to change numeric values; so for example if you were playing some fantasy-based flash game you could give your character 1 million gold pieces instead of 5,000; or 5,000 hit points intsead of 500.

Bizarrely, videos on YouTube claim to show this program (I don't use it and am not going to, and thus can't verify the videos' accuracy) being used for movement in UO, somehow. There's a video that shows the guy skipping ahead, like he was jumping or teleporting. How on earth that works I can't guess.

But per the other thread? It's also for using this program which, if it really does work for UO, is potentiallycatastrophic on all aspects of the game.

The program you are talking about allows you to memory edit any program. It doesn't need to even be a game, it can be anything. It also has other capabilities and has indeed been used in the past for speed hacking. I don't know this from experience, I know this based on conversations between people using the program in vent a few years back, and reading the FAQ for the program. Using this particular program with the WoW client will get you instantly banned, and the same should be true for UO as well.

I should add, it obviously only works for data manipulated by the client, any data which is only manipulated server side would be unable to be affected in any way by this program.

 

[T-Hunt]

There seems to be alot of Bank sitters in Luna missing..GL shard...
And alot less trash talk from Fel..

Dont think its me ignoring them all..

But will see in 48 hours or more whats up..

Other wise , theres going to be some sweet idocs a comming....

 

[Poo]

what i think is a little strange about all these stories is this.

Cal said he had a been presented with another spreadsheet with people using the 3rd party programs.

so that sounds like its not the first he has been presented with, but rather sounds like he was getting weekly or maybe monthlly ones since they put up their detection program.

so if they have a list of who the accounts are, why would a GM.... who has NOTHING to do with cal and his wonderfull detection machine.
infact id be suprised if the GMs have even seen that spreadsheet.

i would imagine that if you are on the spreadsheet and you 'cross that line' from closet 3rd party program user' to 'hard core user' that you would one day go to log in and get the 'your account is blocked' message.

no what is listed above about people running in a battle and POOF they are gone.

and then seeing GMs at recall miners locations.

that sounds like good old imperical detective work on the part of GMs.
someone putting in a page about something and a GM coming to have a look.

none of it sounds like it has anything to do with cal and his wonderful machine.

hmmmm?

 

[Llewen]

that sounds like good old imperical detective work on the part of GMs.
someone putting in a page about something and a GM coming to have a look.

none of it sounds like it has anything to do with cal and his wonderful machine.

Well combating cheating in online games requires a strategy that involves more than one tactic. Perhaps this is part of an overall strategy that includes both the third party cheat detection, and a change to the way GM's perform their duties. Maybe they've also finally managed to hire and properly train more GM's.

 

[Lynk]

Well combating cheating in online games requires a strategy that involves more than one tactic. Perhaps this is part of an overall strategy that includes both the third party cheat detection, and a change to the way GM's perform their duties. Maybe they've also finally managed to hire and properly train more GM's.

There is one of two things happening.

Cal, the dev team, and GMs are orchestrating a sting operation crushing dupers, scripters, and speedhackers. They have mountains of data and are being very careful how they handle it.

Or perhaps all of these stories are rumors created by trollish cheaters for amusement, and the only people that have been banned were caught afk macroing, which is nothing new because if a GM sees you macroing unattended you usually get a 24-72 hour.

I'm inclined to think it is the latter of the two situations.

 

[[JD]]

has anyone been banned for scripting/speeding?

personally it sounds like unattended macroers are getting it... and that is nothing new... if they catch you, you always get some sort of hand slap.

so while it's good to see cal's announcement that they are now doing something, it doesn't mean they are doing anything about scripters and speeders.

 

[Llewen]

There is one of two things happening.

Cal, the dev team, and GMs are orchestrating a sting operation crushing dupers, scripters, and speedhackers. They have mountains of data and are being very careful how they handle it.

Or perhaps all of these stories are rumors created by trollish cheaters for amusement, and the only people that have been banned were caught afk macroing, which is nothing new because if a GM sees you macroing unattended you usually get a 24-72 hour.

I'm inclined to think it is the latter of the two situations.

Well, I'm inclined to believe that we are seeing a fine example of mass hysteria, and there are a lot of rumours flying, many of which are not true. But at the same time I do think something has been going on the past two or three days now. What exactly that is we'll probably only know if Cal tells us, and even then I am sure we won't know any of the details.