Abyssal Dread Mares

[phantus]

I wonder if EA knows how many ppl they've lost when they created tremmal....how low this game has went down the ratings. Think of that. :/

It wouldn't have been so bad if all the people that didn't want to pvp didn't move there. Then there could have been a reason to stay and keep playing because there was more than enough sheep to go around. Seems odd noone ever though of that before...

 

[olduofan]

carrot on a stick

my sentiments exactly.
same thing they did w/ giving out power scrolls, because Fel was almost dead?
same thing they did w/ giving double resources, because Fel was almost dead?
Looks like people don't like carrots. Now the horse? lol, whatever...
I say if they want to save a dieing area - start w/ Siege - now That would impress me

>"an abyssal shovel that has unlimited uses" Only in Fel - count me in, I'm there!

also look at the fraction artifacts to lure players in It didn work either

if this to lore players to fel it will fail and only those pvpers will get them and or sell them to the "care-bear bank sitters" for 150mil plus and just leave trammies feeling yet again left out.

 

[Pandora_CoD]

Lol! This can never work. It's funny though.

Dev1: How can we put in RvR like everything else Mythic?
Dev2: I know! Trammies will go to fel for colored pets. As soon as we get enough to go and learn to like it we can cram RvR down their throats.
Dev1: Genius!

Unlesss you played RvR (on Lancelot especially) in DAOC for 5 years... do not KNOCK IT!! It was the best pvp game I played besides UO. I have a dwarf healer on DAOC that reached RR10L9 when I quit. AND personally I would LOVE to see some of those elements come into UO!!!

1) Skills/Abilities that are only for factions and gained through rank levels.
2) A more visible ranking system for individuals as well as guilds; online.
3) SEIGE equipment.... to use on what?
4) Seigable forts of course, one per city main Fel/Tram city.
5) TURN ON Factions in Trammel, ffs!!! Dont allow character to hide in Trammel. If you wanna be in factions, BE IN FACTIONS. They still can't attack blues...

 

[Bobar]

Having read these posts with interest it occurs to me that all the previous attempts to get players to go to Fel did not necessarily benefit a particular PLAYSTYLE. Yes powerscrolls were more easily obtained by Reds, but Blues could and did get them.

So bearing in mind that we all PAY the same, why is it broached that a PLAYSTYLE should get a special reward?.

One of the great appeals of UO has always been that you played the game as it suited you, Some people, and I freely admit to being one have ZERO interest in PVP. If Trammel did not exist in UO then neither would I.

Are we to expect special rewards for people that run vendors, or people that RP in Trammel, perhaps we could have one for Sampires. But no I suspect not.

What is the great purpose in inducing people to go to Fel, more fodder for those whose only interest is PVP?. It is blatantly obvious that any competition such as that described will be abused to great effect. If as has been said there are ways to stop cheating lets have it applied to ALL aspects of the game, it's been crying out for it long enough.

Whatever it is, as a fee paying player I object to attempts to favour any PLAYSTYLE over another. That goes against one of the abiding virtues of UO - FREE CHOICE.

 

[Zosimus]

Unlesss you played RvR (on Lancelot especially) in DAOC for 5 years... do not KNOCK IT!! It was the best pvp game I played besides UO. I have a dwarf healer on DAOC that reached RR10L9 when I quit. AND personally I would LOVE to see some of those elements come into UO!!!

1) Skills/Abilities that are only for factions and gained through rank levels.
2) A more visible ranking system for individuals as well as guilds; online.
3) SEIGE equipment.... to use on what?
4) Seigable forts of course, one per city main Fel/Tram city.
5) TURN ON Factions in Trammel, ffs!!! Dont allow character to hide in Trammel. If you wanna be in factions, BE IN FACTIONS. They still can't attack blues...

DaoC RvR was the best PvP concept I have ever played. In DaoC you had a purpose to RvR.

In UO, besides Yew gate, broken factions, and champ raids/defending there is no real purpose to pvp. There is no system that keeps track of what you do or even rewards your character for fighting the enemy besides insurance. Can I get a big "WOOT" on that insurance. When I say enemy there is no clear enemy. The guy you are 'enemies' with today may be your friend tomorrow. Then he becomes your enemy again down the line. More drama if anything then actually PvP. There is no clear objective in UO PvP.

I do like Pandy suggestion on allowing factions to fight in trammel. Since factions is borked it may as well be allowed on all facets. I still say they could add a system similar to order and chaos. As we all know who watched or was at the HoC video that factions is a major issue with them. The "dark cloud" remark pretty well sums that up. They need to scrap it and come up with something new.

 

[Zosimus]

If the devs want to bring more people to fel by enticing players with pets there is an easier solution. Thats if they dont want to make them an easy pet to be farmed and tamed. Thats if they dont want players to feel they are forcing you go to a facet you dont want to go to. That's if they dont want a player to feel they are luring you. Make the mount/pet a very rare reward in fel dungeons only like they do the artifacts you can receive in the legacy dungeons in tram and fel. Make the special mount/pet in deed form that pops in your backpack. Treat it like power srolls that it cursed. The mount/pet deed can be turned into a Vet npc.

At least in this part players that want to go to fel legacy dungeons and try to earn this pet as a very rare drop they can. This also allows PK's go and patrol dungeons and try to disrupt any player. It becomes a player choice and the consequences for both sides. If a PK wants to patrol dungeons that his choice. If a player wants to farm a dungeon its his choice.

They could try to fix Khaldun and make it a very rare drop reward in that dunegon only.

The BIG issue is the population and some lower population shard dugeons could be farmed while others cant be so farmed. So should these pets become account bound or not? Should they be tradeable or not? Should they be allowed to be transfered to another shard or not? Should these pets be bonded or not? Should these pets be rare or not? Should the chances to recieve a pet deed be hard or easy? I can go on and on with questions but its UO and pixels. Its just pixels but what is determined as fair to me may not be fair to another. Thats how UO is

 

[Snow78]

I wonder if EA knows how many ppl they've lost when they created tremmal....how low this game has went down the ratings. Think of that. :/

In case you hadnt noticed its Tram people that keep uo going! thats why mesanna is trying to have the tram people give fel a shot. maybe you should check all the shards and check fel and youll see that 90% of them are empty. So before you say its tram thats sinking this game do some research.
Tram malas termur is what is keeping this game going. Not fel. And yes i still play in fel.

 

[Snow78]

ps i still think its a bad idea!

 

[The Scandinavian]

Hi there,

I have had some interest in PvP lately after along time not even enter fell.

Fix the arena and I will give it a try.
But why would I as a smith at heart care about a tourny that gives a mare as reward?
Aren't there enough tamables already?

Give us some godly smith stuff instead I say !



Regards
The Scandinavian

 

[Heimi]

I really REALLY hope this doesn't happen, or at least with no such mount as a reward. A sash sure, or a sword, but a unique hued mount? Please no.

 

[Pandora_CoD]

DaoC RvR was the best PvP concept I have ever played. In DaoC you had a purpose to RvR.

INORIGHT! These ppl just do not know...

RELIC WARS was the shiiiiiiiznit. I remember TLP (aka CoD in DAoC) almost always held a keep for Midgard and when you saw your guild chat spamming, "A guard from your keep was killed with 127 enemies in the area!" You KNEW it was gonna be a LONG NIGHT of PvP that would last 4-5-6 hours!

I think they should introduce some of those elements in UO! Give us a purpose to PvP other than some stupid mount.

 

[Zosimus]

INORIGHT! These ppl just do not know...

RELIC WARS was the shiiiiiiiznit. I remember TLP (aka CoD in DAoC) almost always held a keep for Midgard and when you saw your guild chat spamming, "A guard from your keep was killed with 127 enemies in the area!" You KNEW it was gonna be a LONG NIGHT of PvP that would last 4-5-6 hours!

I think they should introduce some of those elements in UO! Give us a purpose to PvP other than some stupid mount.

Those were good times. You almost forget the time until the fight was over with then realize you spent 5+ hours of pvp. Fighting back and forth over the bridges, near the docks, sieging towers, sieging keeps, and anywhere in the game you could rvr. Fighting underwater was my favorite. I be at the bottom near a dock and wait for those stealthers to attack somebody and I come up from under them and take them out. I liked you Mids better then I did the Hibs.

If UO could have something similar it would be a big boost for PvP. I'm with you though on the mount. No mount needed to draw people to fel. Fix factions and have a better purpose then wearing the factions arties. Plus they should have faction cities give warnings to the home faction if their city is under attack. Better idea is to scrap it all and and come up with a new concept for pvp since factions as the devs stated, has a dark cloud around it.

 

[Lord Essex]

If Osi and then EA never made trammel, malas, ish, tokuno, and ter mer we wouldnt be having this discussion.

Amen..

 

[Lord Essex]

In the end this will probably sound dumb.. extremely dumb.. The only reason I don't go to Fel often.. I hate the apperance.. I started playing w/ my best friend growing up as soon as the game came out and loved it.. Did I make the switch to tram.. Damn right I did.. I personally don't wanna sit in my house crafting looking at pieces of bones and dead trees 24x7.. Heck there is also a reason I won't own a house in Luna.. (Well besides my old Luna house I placed..) Give me back a fel that looks like tram and I'd have no problem moving back and staying there. Have I grown fat and lazy not having to worry about being pk'd at any given second.. Sure I did.. But its also made it boring.. I know when I leave my house till the time I come back.. there isn't a single thing that is going to be able to kill me unless I venture into some deep dark dungeon.. or I **** off a guidmate.. & even still I'm not that worried.. Besides now people have insurance.. So what your pk'd.. You get rez'd and poof magically all your stuff is right there and your out a few k..

**The above is simply a rantings of some old timer that nobody remembers anyway

 

[startle]

In the end this will probably sound dumb.. extremely dumb.. The only reason I don't go to Fel often.. I hate the apperance.. I started playing w/ my best friend growing up as soon as the game came out and loved it.. Did I make the switch to tram.. Damn right I did.. I personally don't wanna sit in my house crafting looking at pieces of bones and dead trees 24x7..

Ya know, Essex is right on here. I HATE the look of Fel, dead trees, bones, wtfisdat....
That WAS a mistake, making it like that...

 

[BahamaMama]

* revives thread *

I want one!

- Saf

 

[Theo_GL]

Dumbest...idea...ever.

Why is it that the only thing people can think of to promote the fel facet is to find ways to 'lure' people there?

The biggest turn off for fel is the people who frequent fel. Its like giving a prize to student to attend detention. There is no one there in detention they want to hang out with so once the prize goes away - so do the people.

This will be nothing but a case of the largest guilds working to obtain the mares to then sell at ridiculous prices.

The people who want to be in fel are already in fel and those that don't know exactly why they don't. No prize or contest is going to encourage people to spend time in a place they don't want to spend time.

The PVP crowd that is generally foul mouthed and touting the size of their ePenis in general chat for hours on end is not the crowd most people want to hang with. Thus, you have a generally empty fel.

Is this bad? I don't understand why. Maybe its bad for the 10% of the population that wants easy kills in fel and is tired of playing people with their own PvP skill level.

Maybe we should have 'come to trammel' compaigns. Once we convince the last 10% to make the switch we can move powerscrolls to tram and shut down fel.

All this 'come to fel' nonsense is about inviting easy kills to the slaughter. That is why people want a 'classic shard' because then there was no where to go to be safe and the 24x7 players that wanted to kill everything in sight had a trove of players to choose from and harass. Now that players have a choice - most have choosen not to frequent fel for obvious reasons.


For the record, I spend most of my gametime in fel and am not 'scared' of it but I don't run with a PvP guild, don't hang around yew gate and generally have no interest in killing other players. I go for the 2x resources and powerscrolls.


Another 'contest' of a rare item to 'lure' people to fel is a bad idea and says the wrong things about the game. Messana fail.

 

[BahamaMama]

People have their reasons for going or not going to Fel. They are all valid reasons.

One reason to not go to Fel is inexperience. That was my reason before something enticed me to go for the first time.

- Saf

 

[longshanks]

The dread mare event was one of my favorites. That being said it did take place some 3 years ago. The prices of dreads now range in the 80 - 100 mln gold area.

I have even heard of various scams taking place in selling them.

This horse's main purpose is pvp. Sure you could use one for pvm but why would you want too?

If they put a spawn in place on both sides and the abilities of the abyssal rival that of the original dread, it would probably lower prices.

If it was just in fel then there would be another new area to fight over outside of champs, harrowers and fel idocs.

Personally i felt the lack of a water borne champ spawn off the high seas expansion did that booster a grave injustice.

if you look at what the dev's have done over the past year and a half most of it has been driven by the idea to lower prices (see imbuing vs duped val hammer mkt as just an example).

Also regarding trash talk and pvp. It sort of goes hand in hand like peas and carrots. Dont be so emotional.

 

[Nexus]

This is a moot issue now, Mesanna addressed this at the LS Rares Festival. Due to the outrageous amount of negative feedback she received via PM and E-mail we won't be getting these abyssal dreads.....

I'd also like to point out if I'm not mistaken it was mainly the PvP Community that spoke out and was against the idea that was proposed where these Pets would be the reward...

 

[mjolnir131]

Fel will always have a bad rap until they quit calling it the PvP facet! i know several people who play fel myself included that only engage another player once or twice a week by hap hazard odd.

 

[olduofan]

Honestly I feel they need to just put the dread-mares back in the game and make them a permanent spawn. If the fel/pvpers dont like it to bad...

 

[ChessyGoddess]

Pretty ride but it still wont "lure" me to Fel... sorry.

 

[mjolnir131]

I wonder if EA knows how many ppl they've lost when they created tremmal....how low this game has went down the ratings. Think of that. :/

When are you people going to realize if EA/OSI had not created Tram we would not have a UO to play in tram saved UO not ruined it.I'm getting tired of the lie that tram ruined UO.

 

[RawHeadRex]

This game is ultimately about making money for EA, right ?

So why doesn't the DEV team just give people everything they want to attract old players and to maintain current players ?

People want classic servers.. DO IT !

The Pre-AoS days is the zeitgeist that defined this game in the first place. We all understand why trammel was made, to calm the non-pvp players.
But now Fel is a place that is an option and not a requirement to experience.
Pre-AoS classic server would fix this.

They want dread mares... DO IT!

Nightmares and Dread mares... why were they removed from the game in the first place ? Hiryu's are ridable dragons that don't cast spells yet they are just as deadly and allowed.

People want want this, they want that ... DO IT !

Imho it IS possible to make everyone happy if the choices are there.

 

[puni666]

When are you people going to realize if EA/OSI had not created Tram we would not have a UO to play in tram saved UO not ruined it.I'm getting tired of the lie that tram ruined UO.

The creation of tram made lazy players which in turn makes EA/OSI create game simplifying skills and mechanics like the newest Mysticism skill. They mash all the old once creative things people could do as a player and put them into a few new spells. It ruined the game play, not the profit. So it's up to you which is more important to you to determine the reason you play and think it's ruined or not. Is it number of subscribers? Or the once creative game play that's slowly being stripped away?

 

[mjolnir131]

it's both you can build the best of something but if not enough people are willing to buy it then your still sunk and there wear/are not enough total PvP people to keep uo alive

 

[Petra Fyde]

This is a moot issue now, Mesanna addressed this at the LS Rares Festival. Due to the outrageous amount of negative feedback she received via PM and E-mail we won't be getting these abyssal dreads.....

I'd also like to point out if I'm not mistaken it was mainly the PvP Community that spoke out and was against the idea that was proposed where these Pets would be the reward...

Topic closed.