A plea about the new Dragons and one for White Wyrms

[Guest]

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It sounds as though someones just trying to get around the bonding/training or something.

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How exactly do I "get around" it, by actually expending way MORE effort obtaining an upgrade to my existing pets, than it would be taming a new one?

 

[Guest]

"Pfft! I'm a lead tamer, too. Not sure how to break it to you, but most tamer folk know how to lead tame and have done since at least unbroken line of sight was required for taming and a penalty introduced for para-taming."

I tame Cu Sidhes in the Twisted Weald ALOT to try to get a rare color to spawn on Napa, and all the other Tamer's i have seen there, besides maybe 2 or 3 of them, either Para Tame, Peace Tame, or have several people Healing them/Peacing/Paralyzing for them, and they are absolutely horrible at Lead Taming. Even with them having the assistance of other people, i generally tame 3 Cu Sidhes to there 1 with Lead Taming. I rarely ever die when Taming, and usually when i do it's because of a bug, like a few nights ago my char was suddenly unable to move (And i wasn't hit with Paralyze Spell from a Changeling) and i got killed by a Cu Sidhe i was taming. Most people i see taming things either do Beat Down Taming, Para Taming, or Peace Taming, rarely do i see another skilled Lead Tamer.

 

[imported_Heartseeker]

Upgrading pets? Are you serious?

What is this game coming too?

I hope the devs ignore this post, because it sounds ridiculous.

Do you realize how much programing that would take?

I think we need a lot of things fixed first, thank you very much.

This game should of never introduced advanced characters and such.

They are great for the lazy and insta-gratification bunch,; but are bad for the game.

 

[Guest]

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I still don't see your objection, noone is forcing you to use it.

[/ QUOTE ]No one is forcing you to have a new pet, Chaos, and so far, no one is offering you the option of pay-for upgrades to your existing pets.

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You cite circumventing the effort in taming them? How exactly is that more effort?

[/ QUOTE ]Hmm. Tame something versus throw gold at it, which requires more effort in the doing? .

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If you have 10 million gold, I can garantee you you can easily buy one if a new one is what you desire.

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This is for the OLD players that DO wish to have their existing pets upgraded through MUCH more effort than it takes to tame a new one or just buy a new one.

[/ QUOTE ]I am an OLD player and I have stated my objections to your plea.

You are not actually required to have a 5-slotter dragon anymore than you are required to have a reptalon or a swampie, Chaos.

If you can't be bothered to tame a super dragon, I'm quite sure someone will sell you one for the right price. Equally, you're also entirely welcome to create your own player fiction, your own player quests to roleplay your own older pets growing/evolving into something they never were.

Bygones.

 

[Guest]

Twisted Weald isn't a great example since there is no lasting penalty to para-taming cu sidhes because none of their skills can go past 100 and can very easily be retrained. That's why I often para-tame pups and it isn't actually indicative of how I tame anything with skills which may exceed 100.

 

[Guest]

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Hmm. Tame something versus throw gold at it, which requires more effort in the doing? .

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Getting 10 million gold requires more effort than getting a new dragon thats for sure.

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So buy one from someone who IS willing to put in the effort.

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See again you're making no sense...I can easily get a new "super" dragon if I wanted one, its not about getting a new one, its about keeping the existing dragon and upgrading it to the new status (which would require very little dev time)

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If you can't be bothered to tame a super dragon

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See this is what you're not understanding, its not about taming a new "super dragon", I would tame hundreds of them if thats what it took. You're not getting that I want my EXISTING pet to become one at whatever cost. I've already mentioned several suggestions which ALL way outweigh the trouble of actually taming one of the new Dragons. I could tame a new one and give it the same name, but that really wouldn't be the same at all.

 

[Guest]

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Do you realize how much programing that would take?

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Next to nothing?

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They are great for the lazy and insta-gratification bunch,; but are bad for the game.

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I don't exactly see how introducing something that gives you an upgraded dragon for WAY MORE effort than it takes just to tame one now is "insta-gratification"

 

[Jirel of Joiry]

Okay I'm confused. Are the beefing up the exsisting Dragons in Destard or are they adding a New type of dragon? I know, know I'm a stupid git, but bare with me okay?

Jirel

 

[Frarc]

Its a new Dragon. Ther are still dragons in destard like there are now.

 

[Jirel of Joiry]

Okay so the three slot red and brown boogers will still live in Destard and I'm getting a new dragon type to beat on...Sweet! While they are at it why don't they fix serpentine dragons ...Those are pathetic by draggy standards!

 

[Return2UO]

Without trying to start a fight, why not just tame one of the new dragons.

I get that some of your pets have been with you for years but this is no different to asking to upgrade a weapon to the latest Artie because when you first got it it was the best.

Also, where do you draw the boundries? Is it something that is temporarily coded just for these 'owned animals', if so couldn't that time be used better or do you leave it in, in which case, what stops me taming a regular dragon and then paying the upgrade?

There is much in this game which could be improved an in the scope of things this isn't one of them.

 

[Guest]

"No one is forcing you to have a new pet, Chaos"

And no one is forcing you to evolve your pet, Nico. These are ideas we are posting for us who want to be able to evolve our pet. Paying gold to Evolve them is a very bad idea, however evolving them through a hard quest or a rare item, isn't. Like the ideas i posted earlier, it would take FAR longer to get a Dragon or WW to 7xGM than it would to roll over the Dragon spawn until you find a good Stat/Resist/Skill Great Wyrm. It would also take alot more time and be alot harder to be able to acquire the rare ingredient off of Rikktor or a Paragon Great Wyrm, which then you would still have to find a GM Cook if you didn't have one.
This would not only satisfy us who want the OPTION to evolve our pet, but it would also encourage player interaction, seeing as how i can't see how anyone could solo Rikktor or a Paragon Great Wyrm, especially now that Rikktor is beefed up like other Champs.

I just tamed a Great Wyrm with 886 Health on TC, and it wasn't too hard. Just gotta keep out of his Melee range and keep spamming them Mini Heals and get a Greater Heal ready when he goes to breathe fire. If i would of had another person healing me, it would of been a piece of cake.

 

[Guest]

It never fails to astonish me that when some folks are given something, it's never quite enough.

So the answer would be:- Tame one (or buy one), set your own player quest to evolve your own dragon and make up your own player fiction about how your dragon evolved.

Everyone is happy then and the Devs can actually devote some time to other stuff like, oh, you know:- dupers/scriptors/factions/pvp/crafting/resource gathering/events/content, etc...

 

[imported_Lord GOD(GOD)]

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its about keeping the existing dragon and upgrading it to the new status

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Theres no difference in graphic (at least in 2d) afaik, so if you upgrade an old pet first of all how would the game determine it's stats/resists/skills/bonded status/how trained it is. (according to you I'm asking this).

Secondly assuming there was a fair way of doing the above (i.e giving you the max stats of a new one wouldn't be fair) then again what part of your 'old' dragon would be left?

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I could tame a new one and give it the same name, but that really wouldn't be the same at all.

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But changing all of an old ones abilities in to a new one would?

I maintain there is no point to whats being proposed in ANY way. Saying 'It'd still be the same pet to me' is riddiculous when what your asking is to change everything the pet you allegedly want to keep has.

How their tamed/wether you tamer them isn't really the point (so I don't know why you defend that with all the other glaring holes in your argument) but as there is so little other purpose in whats being asked its a relavent point that you look too lazy to tame/train/bond a new one. The cost isn't remotely an issue these days.

 

[Guest]

If you want upgradable dragons, then by all means petition EA to consider it. But you do need to accept that tamers have very varied ideas about our pets. I like my current dragons just as they are. They're more versatile than the 5 slot elder dragon for one thing. While I will get the elder dragon too, I wouldn't want to lose the option to take my normal drag out with a mare, uni or kitsune. So I would choose to just tame new elders and have both in my stables.

I am not saying that you shouldn't be able to upgrade a dragon, though I would like to see a very well thought out proposal for how that dragon turned elder. Or that it was simply a matter of your dragon was tamed x years ago, and once it's fully trained you get the option to upgrade. But someone needs to stop pets gaining while parked beside shadow eles etc before that becomes meaningful. It wouldn't make sense for a pet to become elder right after bonding for example. I think some passage of time would be good.

A more pressing need for tamers with the arrival of a 5 slot pet is the ability to swap pets out the stable. I've kept my tamers with a spare slot, but a lot of tamers will wish they could upgrade rather than throw out a pet they like. Or even just a couple of extra stable slots would be good. I think that would be a better solution right now, maybe with an upgradable dragon option further down the line.

Wenchy

 

[the 4th man]

10 mills nothing for the nerds, and no lifers, but what about real peopole who work and have lives??

The quest thing seems better.............

 

[Llewen]

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10 mills nothing for the nerds, and no lifers, but what about real peopole who work and have lives??

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The insults are not called for, no one should be forced to defend themselves because they happen to be successful at the game. If you cheat and gain your success that way, sure you deserve to have your account thrown in the dumper, but there are plenty of people with great family and social lives, and good jobs, who have done very well at this hobby and many others.

Back on topic. Nico, at first I didn't like the idea, but I'll say it again, I don't see anything wrong with it. I do agree with the above post though, I think it would be better if it was some kind of quest, or quest chain, rather than simply paying an amount in gold, although that could certainly be part of the quest chain.

 

[Guest]

Have tamed 6 Great Wyrms so far, only problem with taming them is there Rune Beetle Casting AI. Plus they seem to detect when you're casting a spell and they throw out low level spells like magic arrows, fireballs and lightnings like mad to disrupt your spell. Makes healing kind of a pain in the ass, unless you have someone else healing you, which i didn't. They definately cast like a Rune Beetle, was hit with 3 Flamestrikes in a row followed by a E-Bolt in about 4 seconds.

 

[Guest]

Have Sudiva make it happen, through a quest

 

[Guest]

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10 mills nothing for the nerds, and no lifers, but what about real peopole who work and have lives??

The quest thing seems better.............

[/ QUOTE ]How about tame as many as you like for free and no need for any quest?

 

[Guest]

Fabulous!

Now go train one or more up and see what they can do. More feedback is needed in both pvp and pvm scenarios.

For the high hp fellas (900+/- tame hp), their firebreath is taking between a third and two-thirds of the healthbar of a well kitted player. That's a bit much and I still think this needs some downward adjustment perhaps by way of reducing the max hp (since firebreath dmg calc includes hp).

If not, then Ninja-form needs to utilise a follower slot thus effectively removing this bad boy (and rune beetle/bake kits, too) from the ninja-tamer's bag of tricks.

 

[Connor_Graham]

Hey Nico, my Tamer asked if your dragon was attached to anyone? She thinks he's sexy and wants a date with him. Personally I think she's nuts, but hey, what do I know, I'm just a guy.

Seriously though, those stats are amazing. I'm going to have to find her one of those. I think these new dragons are cool, both from the Tamer perspective and from the dragon hunter perspective.

I would like to know, as Surgeries has asked, is if these dragons can spawn in Ilsh as Paragons. Would be nice to know if we need extra bandages and burn cream when we go hunting there.

 

[Guest]

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its a relavent point that you look too lazy to tame/train/bond a new one.

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How can it be a relevant point?

1. If I was just too lazy, then 10 milion gold would by me an army of the new dragons.
2. If I was just lazy, then why am I suggesting that I'd be willing to tame tons of the existing dragons to upgrade my current one.

Way to get a post about A, then argue B.

 

[Guest]

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I like my current dragons just as they are.

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Which is fine and dandy, then why oppose the system when you aren't being forced to upgrade, if you like your current dragons just the way they are, then just go about your daily business and this won't concern you.

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A more pressing need for tamers with the arrival of a 5 slot pet is the ability to swap pets out the stable. I've kept my tamers with a spare slot, but a lot of tamers will wish they could upgrade rather than throw out a pet they like. Or even just a couple of extra stable slots would be good. I think that would be a better solution right now, maybe with an upgradable dragon option further down the line.

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"You do need to accept that tamers have very varied ideas about our pets."

That goes both ways really. There's many suggestions that I've seen tamers bring up that I'd support even though it doesn't affect me/I won't use it.

But yes, I do agree that an increase in stableslots is long overdue for tamers. (Heck I would prefer a Taming v.2.0, but thats a story for another time, heh)

 

[Guest]

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Seriously though, those stats are amazing. I'm going to have to find her one of those. I think these new dragons are cool, both from the Tamer perspective and from the dragon hunter perspective.

I would like to know, as Surgeries has asked, is if these dragons can spawn in Ilsh as Paragons. Would be nice to know if we need extra bandages and burn cream when we go hunting there.

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That is a good question.

 

[Guest]

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I like my current dragons just as they are.

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Which is fine and dandy, then why oppose the system when you aren't being forced to upgrade, if you like your current dragons just the way they are, then just go about your daily business and this won't concern you.

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I don't object to the option of an upgrade, read my post again and you'll find this: "I am not saying that you shouldn't be able to upgrade a dragon, though I would like to see a very well thought out proposal for how that dragon turned elder."

If someone comes up with a good idea, I'll support it. I'd just like to be able to tame a fresh dragon for myself. If I only had the option to upgrade my existing dragons, my main tamers wouldn't do it. Which is why I want to tame and I'd be cool about a method of upgrading alongside it.

Wenchy

 

[imported_Sarphus]

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10 mills nothing for the nerds, and no lifers, but what about real peopole who work and have lives??

The quest thing seems better.............

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It's not particularly difficult to make 10 mil even if you can only play 5 hours a week...

 

[Guest]

"Now go train one or more up and see what they can do. More feedback is needed in both pvp and pvm scenarios."
When i find the time i will train my best Stat/Resist/Skill Potential one up. I haven't actively used my Tamer/Mage in PvP since shortly after AoS, but can probably still do it pretty well.

Noticed something wierd about the first Great Wyrm i tamed, it's Stamina was 6 points lower than it's DEX. It had 65 DEX but 59 Stamina, making it unable to reach 120 Stamina, which is a 30 point increment that increases attack speed by 0.25 secs.

 

[Guest]

Ok, I totally agree with that

Thank you.

 

[imported_Lord GOD(GOD)]

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How can it be a relevant point?

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As I have said (three times now), if you upgrade your old dragon in to a new dragon it will be completely non-identifyable as your old dragon, so what - other than the insignifgant week to bond/time to train - would be the point of this being implemented?

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Way to get a post about A, then argue B.

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You still haven't understood or answred A or B.

 

[Guest]

You posted about laziness which I was responding to.

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if you upgrade your old dragon in to a new dragon it will be completely non-identifyable as your old dragon, so what - other than the insignifgant week to bond/time to train - would be the point of this being implemented?

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Because to me and others it *would* be considered the same dragon.

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You still haven't understood or answred A or B.

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huh? Now you're not making sense, I was the one who proposed A, why would I be answering it? You then made a strawman arguement out of it

 

[imported_Lord GOD(GOD)]

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You posted about laziness which I was responding to.

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Yes &amp; what I put about laziness was that as it's only the trival points like bonding/training you've replied to it suggests that you can't answer the other questions. Which you didn't as you only replied to that part (again).

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Because to me and others it *would* be considered the same dragon.

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(2nd time) How would it be? How would you know? How would you know different if the only way they could implement it was to delete your old dragon and then generate a random new one for your char?

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huh? Now you're not making sense, I was the one who proposed A, why would I be answering it?

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I thought you were refering to A as how would it still be your pet, and B how would the 'upgrade' handle generating the stats/resists/skills of your completely new dragon.

 

[Guest]

paying would be wrong but yes an upgrade, a quest you and the beast take together perhaps an orb of dragon power is involved as well.

maby limited to beasts of a certain age [real years] you recieve the message "your dragon advises you that it has come of age and is now anchient".

thus begins a quest.

 

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(2nd time) How would it be? How would you know? How would you know different if the only way they could implement it was to delete your old dragon and then generate a random new one for your char?

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Of course it would be deleted and created as a new dragon, but it would happen as a part of a system which "transforms" your pet, therefor will feel as the same pet.

 

[Guest]

Sorry Connor, I completely missed your post to me. I put it down to excessive eye rolling.

Despite being bonded to me, my temp TC1 draggies are, in fact, available for dates. PM your tamer's paperdoll and I'll see which one fancies her. They tend to prefer flame-grilled tamer basted in their own juices, though charred is also perfectly acceptable.

As far as Surgeries' question, I haven't actually checked anywhere but Destard Tram &amp; Fel myself for the new dragons. There have not been any active Rikktor spawns during my TC1 investigations, so I've not been able to determine whether they spawn in that either.

Though I am very tight for time this week, we can all check on Origin now, too. Bonus!

 

[Guest]

I can confirm that the new draggies also spawn in the temple on Fire Isle. So I'd say all draggy spawns everywhere have the chance to be a meanie draggy. Someone give the THunters asbestos underwear please

Felt like my first dragon taming yesterday, trying to beat a big draggy down with my newbie pets, then realising it was healing up so fast the beating up exercise was pointless

I haven't had that much fun and hilarity taming in YEARS. Thank you EA! Though there is a downside... having to do it all again on Europa

Though at least I have proper armour at home, I look like a garden gnome on TC1!

Wenchy

 

[Connor_Graham]

"Despite being bonded to me, my temp TC1 draggies are, in fact, available for dates. PM your tamer's paperdoll and I'll see which one fancies her. They tend to prefer flame-grilled tamer basted in their own juices, though charred is also perfectly acceptable. "

Well, I told her about your dragons' preferences, but she seemed to get quite perturbed, and stormed off saying something about refusing to change for any man, whether that be human, elf or dragon.

I really hate getting stuck in the middle of things like this. Get's kinda awkward at times...

As far as the possiblity of these new dragons spawning as Paragons, I guess I'll have to take a trip out to Ilsh. There should be a very noticeable difference between a normal paragon and a buffed one. Should be a lot of fun though. They sound like they'd be one hell of a challenge.

 

[Guest]

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As far as the possiblity of these new dragons spawning as Paragons, I guess I'll have to take a trip out to Ilsh. There should be a very noticeable difference between a normal paragon and a buffed one. Should be a lot of fun though. They sound like they'd be one hell of a challenge.

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God I hope they "Don't" spawn as paragons, before paragons hit Ilsh I used to take my crafters [miners and LJs] today only my most skilled mages, tamers , warriors travel there and most times not alone, not like the old days when I would run to Ilsh to tame a mare, or fight the bloods.

As for Tram/Fel now I had hoped to see these super beast only in Destard and not all over.

 

[Fluffi]

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I am not saying that you shouldn't be able to upgrade a dragon, though I would like to see a very well thought out proposal for how that dragon turned elder. Or that it was simply a matter of your dragon was tamed x years ago, and once it's fully trained you get the option to upgrade. But someone needs to stop pets gaining while parked beside shadow eles etc before that becomes meaningful. It wouldn't make sense for a pet to become elder right after bonding for example. I think some passage of time would be good.


Wenchy

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My suggestion from a further up this thread...

If you want to "quest" your way to upgrading your current dragon, then currency should have nothing to do with it.

How about "the legacy dragon has to kill one of EVERY non-named creature in the game?"
This could be done in partnership with another pet, but the dragon has to be at each battle.

There - a training regime to boost your legacy dragon to ""Elder" status, that doesn't rely on the depth of your pockets.



FWIW, nothing will make me abandon or convert my current dragon. It was the first one I tamed, and has a sentimental value which outweighs its' weaknesses.


Maybe it was ignored as it is an utterly ridiculous proposal. *shrugs*

Maybe killing EVERY creature is unfeasible - so why not kill the 20 (or 30, or 50) hardest creatures?

This would take time &amp; dedication by the tamer, and would fit well with the concept of training a legacy dragon to "Elder" status.


One problem I can forsee if pets are able to be upgraded... What would the stats on the upgraded version be? I can see a lot of angry people if they go through the upgrading process only to be bitten by the RNG, and don't get quite what they were expecting.

 

[Guest]

Aye, prefer your idea to the gold one

It would be good to see tamers having to hunt around the lands instead of just go to the same spots all the time heh.

The RNG could be a very bad draw for someone who upgraded, personally I don't have any uber draggies, but they could end up with truly stats after the upgrade. Unless there was a fixed % that would be applied to all the upgradable stats etc, then players could at least figure out what they'd have after the upgrade. But it would be nice if the dragon had to be a certain age first, otherwise tamers will simply farm for a good basic dragon and upgrade it.

Wenchy

 

[Guest]

Why would they do that if the effort to upgrade it is greater than the effort to tame a real one?

 

[Guest]

Now, Fluffers, ya knows darn well I loves ya to bits...

It's pretty clear by now I'm not a programmer nor a designer nor a developer and am actually rather significantly techno-challenged. Coding such a thing sounds like it would be a complete nightmare (non-hooved variety).

If the pub 16 or AoS nightmare conversion (hooved variety this time) precedent were followed, then it's likely all evolving/growing/upgrading to super-dragon status dragons would have one standardised across the board set of stats (eg mares received 315hp/515str) and would retain their resists and skills. (Note:- Even that was buggy as hell since some converted critters, like my unicorn, received --- eg, zero in an elemental resist.)

A fresh mare's stats/resists will top a legacy mare's stats/resists almost every time and there's no reason to believe that would be any different with dragons.

Imagine the outcry Smaug/Puff/Fido the 9-10yr old dragon fully quested &amp; upgraded now sucks against the new drags on the block - Or every bit as loud, the screams of injustice from those who do not have a 9-10yr old dragon to upgrade and their new drag sucks by comparison.

The way I see it, tamers are being given a gift of this new creature. Why it is folks want to dictate the manner in which that gift is bestowed upon them is just beyond me.

So many other playstyles &amp; professions are crying out for much needed care &amp; attention (pvp, factions, crafting, resource gathering, etc) that I'm more than a little embarassed that in the face of this really cool parting gift from Wilki that it's some tamers saying, "Well, yeah, cool gift and all, but actually I want more! Yeah, I want a quest with it, too."

 

[Guest]

Well I'm not trying to set anything into stone. But if it became a case of tame normal dragon then visit a few NPCs, that would constitute no effort at all.

It comes down to how much you'd be willing to do for an upgrade of that special pet. If the critter is of sentimental value, surely it's not too much to ask a tour of some dungeons? It's something you could do over a period of time, not like saying "defeat x uber champ solo". Or train pet to 7x GM etc.

But as we're still tossing ideas around here, why not suggest other options if you can think of them.

Wenchy

 

[Connor_Graham]

Why upgrade? For what reason? Keep the older dragon as is and continue to use it as you have been with another pet or with you mounted instead of on foot, and also tame one of the new ones to use in a different manner.

I just don't get it. I'm with Nico. Give people something and they complain it's not good enough.

There's that looking a gift horse in the mouth thing again.

 

[Guest]

Yeah, heavens forbid we'd want to see any improvements.

Note the word PLEA (I suggest a dictionary) as opposed to demand.

 

[Guest]

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But if it became a case of tame normal dragon then visit a few NPCs, that would constitute no effort at all.

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Well, I never suggested anything of the sort, I started out with wanting it more difficoult than obtaining it regularly (that way only those who truly want it would do it, while it couldn't be exploited for anything as it would be way easier to get a freshly tamed one.

The only reason I didn't start out with a quest is because that requires more development time and also there's limited use for this suggestion as eventually all old dragons would be converted and very few new ones would need it.

But yes, I'd list the following:

1. An extraordinary amount of gold (dragons love gold)
2. A quest involving:
a. Taming and turning in X amount of existing "super dragons"
b. A really involved quest, involving going to many corners of UO.
c. Make a "pet upgrade deed" at the Zoo turn-in, have it cost 800.000 points or something.
d. Gather valuable treasure, gems and money and turn it in with an NPC for points that at some point allows you to upgrade pets. (Again, dragons love treasure, it could be a bribe that get ancient dragons to perform some sort of ritual that allows a dragon to evolve)
etc.

 

[Guest]

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I just don't get it.

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That much is obvious. :/