Most of us can grasp your reasoning just fine, tyvm.
That doesn't mean we have to agree with you, or your reasoning.
Funny, since that was my first post in the thread... but thanks for preemptively understanding my reasoning before I've actually posted more than once.
I guess it's easy to be an internet commando with your "the people who are responsible for this travesty are lucky I'm not in EAs employ"... when you're not in a position to actually have to do anything about it, or even understand the reasoning behind their position.
Thank you, Kresken, for presuming that I would have no understanding of the reasoning behind their position. Unfortunately for you, I have actually in the past worked in situations where I was in their position to do something about inappropriate behavior, and I did do something about it.
As for what EA's current position is, neither you nor I have any idea what that position is, because they haven't publicly taken one. I was simply stating what I, personally, would have done. It's sorta okay for me to do that, this being a discussion forum and all.
However, what I will say is that other companies in this specific industry do take things like this seriously, and do take action, whether or not the actions taken by unscrupulous individuals is "legal" from an in-game point of view. There isn't an industry standard, sadly, but one could hope that at very least, the person or persons behind this will be dealt with, regardless of whether those who suffered a loss get anything back.
If they (rares collectors) had spent that much time, money and effort to get those items, then they should have been more careful to whom would be entrusted with those items, including asking who would have had access to those items.
It's funny that there are people who just don't understand that in a game like this that's based around community interactions that people will work together to do things that people as a community can enjoy, participate in, and interact with. Some of this requires you to trust someone. Sure, sometimes you get burned, but you're talking about this as though the rares fest in question hadn't gone off without a hitch several times previously. You know, when something builds a reputation of being trustworthy, people start to trust them.
Just because you trust someone, doesn't mean that someone else can trust them. Just because the people running the auction felt they could trust someone, doesn't mean that everyone else could.
Understood, but what does this have to do with the price of tea in China? You claim to have understood my view, when my view isn't about the people that got ripped off, it's about the person(s) who did the ripping off. There's a bunch of people here defending it as "it's legal because it happened in game," and "it's just a game," and "it's not IRL." My point, that you already "understood," is that just because it's a game doesn't mean there aren't any "IRL" factors involved.
Quit glossing over the fact that there was more than one party involved in the loss of the items.
Quit putting words in my mouth then. I've CONTINUALLY referred to them as "person or persons," because neither you nor I really know what happened, unless of course you're part of what went down. Not an accusation, statement of fact. Unless you know for certain, then you simply are guessing at who all was involved.
Yes, the auction house made a poor choice. They've owned up to it. It DOES NOT make what the perpetrator(s) did okay.
If your so attached to items period, real life or not... you need to re-organize your priorities a little bit. Consider yourself extremely luck if you've never had anything stolen.
Right... I'm sure if you got home from work one night and found that your computer had been stolen that you'd just be like, "You know, I'm not really attached to that computer... I need to reorganize my priorities... it's my fault I had a house with glass windows in it." Seriously... And while you're trying (much like others with your strange viewpoint) to make this all about "Hey, it's just items, the guy only took stuff you shouldn't have trusted people with in the first place," it still doesn't make it right no matter how you color it. I don't know why you and a few others are okay with this kind of behavior, but I suspect it stems from "it's only a game."
Fyi...lol... I don't think anyone has actually defended this person. If you read carefully, most have said (myself included) that while we don't agree with what he's done, we also don't think that EA needs to be involved.
Uh, really? How about Lord Frodo, who's almost waving pompoms in defense? Or Coragin, who seems more concerned about getting this thread onto Pacific forums, and basically advocates it since it was in game and didn't involve hacking? I mean, honestly, you do understand I wasn't responding to everything in the thread, right? But to those who were expressing a viewpoint that was, how shall I say, questionable? In fact, my initial (and only other) response to this thread was about the strange glossing over people do because this is "just a game" and thus cannot possibly correspond to real life issues.
Well, as far as that goes, wrong, ding, thanks for playing anyway.
If you'd seen one of my replies to this from earlier, you would have noted that I had seen on the pacific shard forum where players were doing an investigation into this matter themselves. I'd say let them do what they're doing, and if they feel that EA needs to be involved, then let them make that call.
Okay... I quoted a post by T'Challa, addressing his specific instance of this not relating to RL issues, and somehow you have gone and taken it personally.
Curious.
I wonder why that might be.