Essentially defeating the purpose of the option... What if the char really is physically stuck? are they supposed to just give up the item to get out?
there's only one spot you can truly be physically stuck in dungeon/t2a and everyone already knows where that is. a GM can assist in that one rare case. it is at marble spawn.
thanks, reported.Dumb idea.
Try harder next time Beerdrinkalot
of course. that is why i thought of it. people were questioning why a guild should be able to remove scrolls from a dungeon without exiting properly. makes perfect sense to me.Does this also include the cursed scrolls?
You know, there is a teleporter on the island that takes you to Marble right?
Reported?
People think it's a bad idea, because it IS a bad idea. duh.
Stupid? No, not if your hidden by means of using the hiding skill, duh! lolAnd using HELP>stuck because you had a good scroll???
That's pretty damm stupid. You can make it out of any dungeon faster AND safer by running. Learn2dungeonsmarter.
Now this idea makes sense. Simple and Easy!
So if I'm using some of my cheaply acquired cursed artifacts, I should lose them if I log out?
They are CURSED there should be some sort of bad to the meaning of CURSED
They can be stolen/looted, can't be blessed or insured. I think that's the original intent of the "curse".
There might be a timer penalty for it, say 30 seconds where you're frozen (you're stuck anyway, right?) and unable to invis/hide.
that isn't what i was talking about.
I agree, which is why when someone logs out (and times out after the full 5 minutes) any cursed items should drop to the ground.
not if your 50 guildmates are guarding a choke point against 50 enemies. basically logging out/help stuck is a free pass out of the dungeon without having to go through the exit where your enemies are. that is what this thread is about.
why? what is my "track record" as you put it? i'm not ashamed of my "track record" at all.
I think the change you are looking for is probably when using stuck option with cursed item on, it should teleport you to the nearest aggressor/zerg crowd.
Pls note I said what THEY see as your track record, as many posts have been by posters who seem to disagree with the poster as opposed to the post
Why can't I log there? My Char never leaves a certain dungeon, so if I have cursed items and stay there to log out you propose I lose them all? I stay there because its a great place to have some pvp fun without gate ganking.
*scratches head* Mmmmhh.... why do I have the impression that you are talking about pre-ML?
No, it is not valid. He simply states, "fix this" without making an argument for why it should be fixed. People have given plenty of responses as to why the current system is fine. If it were tweaked a bit, it could be improved, however I hardly consider this to be a necessary fix. The entire tone in which he wrote the original post is demeaning and rude. You are correct in saying that I am viewing this in lieu of his track record, as his track record consists completely of posting random requests for changes without any sort of justification. Imagine you were developer for UO and read his original post. What would you think? My complaint has nothing to do with the topic of the thread. It was more directed towards the OP and his lack of proper argumentation. Find my posts amusing if you like, no one is forcing YOU to read them.
How am I proving you right by giving you REASONS why it will not work? By making it more difficult for a legit char to either insure thier stuff or help stuck out, you are making it EASIER for the non-legit people out there to take advantage.
Actually it is quite easy to get stuck atm, especially with all the issues of packet loss and intermitten connections. You forget about the uneven terrain involved with t2a champ spawns...and when combined with packetloss or a bad connection a person can easily become stuck within the terrain.
Find it funny? You do understand a script can recognize an item put into your backpack BEFORE you can right? You also know that a script can TAKE the item before you have an opportunity to insure it? Did you know that a scripter can look through your bag WHILE YOU ARE HIDDEN?
I find it funny you say they can see it before the player does. They don't always get the scrolls, either. You see, good players know how to move the character away after the spawn is finished, thus escaping stealth thieves.
But I fail to see how this even relates to this topic at all. This topic is about using the Help button to get out of the dungeon. So ease explain how thieves are a problem with this whole idea.
So you support using Help Stuck option for getting out of the champ spawn area to supposedly avoid thieves? You really need to explain how having an alternative idea for using Help Stuck in a Champ Spawn area helps thieves.
Fine his presentation of the issue could have been better however it is a valid issue he is raising, the fact that u are choosing to concentrate on the poster rather than the topic can be excused in opposition to his method, but not really when you accuse someone of being unconstructive and then launch a personal attack thereby being just as rude and demeaning yourself.I never mentioned i was being forced to read your post but, in trying to be "constructive" i was merely trying to get the topic focusing on the issue at hand so apologies if you feel this derails you.
