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Actually I was thinking Dread Warhorse and Kitsune, much better damage output.....
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I was thinking Runes for armor reduction and cus for healing abilities.
I was thinking Runes for armor reduction and cus for healing abilities.
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The way I see this is the faction players (evil) Pks and gankers are all going to join the shadowlords. And the tramilites WONT GET THEIR TOWNS BACK unless they gang up and kill the pks.
This sets the stage for tram vs fel PK style WOOT i mean double WOOT! finaly the age old questions will be answered IS tram Better?
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And the Trams who do not want to be involved in PvP get a series of events caused by the Faction activity (and then sell the silver to the Factioners at a nice profit).
Personally, I see it as a win-win... Felluca/Faction players get to affect the world (especially the Trammel world) and Trammel players get a set of events with their own rewards.
Should be an interesting new dynamic.
And the Trams who do not want to be involved in PvP get a series of events caused by the Faction activity (and then sell the silver to the Factioners at a nice profit).
Personally, I see it as a win-win... Felluca/Faction players get to affect the world (especially the Trammel world) and Trammel players get a set of events with their own rewards.
Should be an interesting new dynamic.
*Hands Dermott a glass half full of tasty milk.*
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I agree this sounds very interesting. one thingworth metion is that tamers will have to put away their dragons in brit. And that IMO will be enough to get the tram players into factions!
Do the town criers inform you which cities are being invaded? If not, can they? This was what we all got Sherry Mouse statues for right? 
Or was there some issue with them not being tied in with the town criers yet?
Or was there some issue with them not being tied in with the town criers yet?
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*Hands Dermott a glass half full of tasty milk.*
After the day I had at work today (a small round of layoffs avoided, people laid off NOT in expected areas of the business), I had the need to down a nice cold Henninger (if only because there was no Bitburger in the house)... milk is nice... needed something with a little more kick
*Hands Dermott a glass half full of tasty milk.*
After the day I had at work today (a small round of layoffs avoided, people laid off NOT in expected areas of the business), I had the need to down a nice cold Henninger (if only because there was no Bitburger in the house)... milk is nice... needed something with a little more kick
That would've been an incredibly obvious thing to have ready for TC and yet... ok, well, *notes this as something to look into*Do the town criers inform you which cities are being invaded? If not, can they? This was what we all got Sherry Mouse statues for right?
Meanwhile, Sherry statues are already hooked into the town crier system. Any time we update the global town criers now, Sherry statues will reflect the news.
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Tested smoke bombs and enchanted apples on test, both stack.
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I doubt it gets them into factions. PvP is something you either want to do or don't, that's why factions is in the sorry state it's in now, it's also why Fel is a virtual ghost town now with isolated spots of activity. It's another bait system, though it's limited time baiting system.
Now in the Focus Group, I was under the impression that Trammel would get invasions, even if the Shadowlord faction was doing poorly. After all, the majority of your player base is in Trammel and they want something to do in this event, right?
The description, however, kinda makes it sound like Minax or the Shadowlords have to seize a city before an invasion can occur in Trammel. If this is the case, I think it will cause problems. I've been running around Test Center since the news was posted and I haven't seen an invasion yet. I see Cowardice in Britain. Is this a precursor to an invasion? Or is this a sign that I missed one and it has already been beaten?
I like the interaction between factions and Trammel, but I think there should be at least one invasion occurring in Trammel independent of how well the chaos factions are doing. Otherwise, a shard with a dominant TB or CoM faction will really miss out on the fun.
I should also give props to Nexus for point this potential issue out.
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Ok, I see beasties spawning now in Britain. Good thing I hid while I was writing this.
The description, however, kinda makes it sound like Minax or the Shadowlords have to seize a city before an invasion can occur in Trammel. If this is the case, I think it will cause problems. I've been running around Test Center since the news was posted and I haven't seen an invasion yet. I see Cowardice in Britain. Is this a precursor to an invasion? Or is this a sign that I missed one and it has already been beaten?
I like the interaction between factions and Trammel, but I think there should be at least one invasion occurring in Trammel independent of how well the chaos factions are doing. Otherwise, a shard with a dominant TB or CoM faction will really miss out on the fun.
I should also give props to Nexus for point this potential issue out.
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Ok, I see beasties spawning now in Britain. Good thing I hid while I was writing this.
Righto sable and Nexus: I believe the final version may need a check in place to make sure the Shadowlords (the entities, not the faction itself) manages to wreak havoc on a town even if their minions can't instigate it themselves.Now in the Focus Group, I was under the impression that Trammel would get invasions, even if the Shadowlord faction was doing poorly. After all, the majority of your player base is in Trammel and they want something to do in this event, right?
The description, however, kinda makes it sound like Minax or the Shadowlords have to seize a city before an invasion can occur in Trammel. If this is the case, I think it will cause problems. I've been running around Test Center since the news was posted and I haven't seen an invasion yet. I see Cowardice in Britain. Is this a precursor to an invasion? Or is this a sign that I missed one and it has already been beaten?
I like the interaction between factions and Trammel, but I think there should be at least one invasion occurring in Trammel independent of how well the chaos factions are doing. Otherwise, a shard with a dominant TB or CoM faction will really miss out on the fun.
I should also give props to Nexus for point this potential issue out.
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Ok, I see beasties spawning now in Britain. Good thing I hid while I was writing this.
Additionally, we may host some hunting parties on TC this week, and flip on all the invasions just to test strengths, so stay tuned.
P.S. And yes, the Britain invasion monsters are concentrated on the east side, near the sigil.
Yeah when I first red this TC update, I'm like wow, pkers taking over in Trammel, that'll be wild.
Then my son pointed out that reds can't go to Trammel.
So I guess pvp doesn't really have much to do with it.
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Is there a particular forum we can go to post "Test Shard Questions?"
It's my first time using the test shard and I managed to find the commands and my skills and stats... found the gate for getting my account aged and another gate that says "Allow House Placement"... When I go through the "Allow House Placement" gate it doesn't send me anywhere, it just sparkles my character and no matter where I try to place even the classic smallest houses it says housing can't be placed here.
What am I not understanding and where should I be asking this question?
Thanks.
It's my first time using the test shard and I managed to find the commands and my skills and stats... found the gate for getting my account aged and another gate that says "Allow House Placement"... When I go through the "Allow House Placement" gate it doesn't send me anywhere, it just sparkles my character and no matter where I try to place even the classic smallest houses it says housing can't be placed here.
What am I not understanding and where should I be asking this question?
Thanks.
Can you just imagine the guy who's played for a few months or a year, has a couple of arties, has never really done PVP, but decides that he's going to go fight in this Faction system to help save Britannia?
Can you just IMAGINE the cornholing he's going to take from speedhacking smack-talking scripters? Why would you encourage anyone to participate in the hostile cheat-riddled mess that is UO PVP?
Can you just IMAGINE the cornholing he's going to take from speedhacking smack-talking scripters? Why would you encourage anyone to participate in the hostile cheat-riddled mess that is UO PVP?
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Factions are going to determine which cities get invaded on both sides of the moongate....Granted the PvP will happen in Fel, but the effects will be universal.
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Yup that's why I'm not in favor of baiting players into Factions or PvP environments.
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And this is why I will never bother with PvP. I am disinclined to cheat and I don't feel that potion/healing scripts should be necessary to compete. Also I am just too old to engage in the kind of sub-human dialogue that is typical of most of the kids that DO PvP. Not all mind you, but certainly most. Getting a little sick of people trying to entice those of us not interested in PvP to participate in what is and will always be a cheaters paradise. No thanks. They get enough rewards controlling the power-scroll market, I see no reason to get chased down on my mount by someone on foot (who can magically disregard the trees that slow me down) to be killed and insulted. I'm sure that's someone's idea of a good time, but not mine.
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It is good to see some attention directed to UO PVP. Very promising changes. Factions has been broken far too long as was my favourite part of UO.
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I think stat loss should be removed or at least reduced to say maybe 5-10 minutes.
Why?
Because on smaller shards (such as Oceania as where I am from) we have a very active (fights every night) but TINY playerbase - maximum of 15 or so fighting in fel at all times. This is why factions has always been small on our shard because we are smaller than the rest. Lowering the time or removing it all together will mean constant fights and more fun for us!
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I think stat loss should be removed or at least reduced to say maybe 5-10 minutes.
Why?
Because on smaller shards (such as Oceania as where I am from) we have a very active (fights every night) but TINY playerbase - maximum of 15 or so fighting in fel at all times. This is why factions has always been small on our shard because we are smaller than the rest. Lowering the time or removing it all together will mean constant fights and more fun for us!
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Pressing a key in UOA is cheating is it?
And now you are generalising. Not all PvPers are like that.
Turn on the filters if you dislike it.
Why dont you take the power-scroll market back instead of complaining?
People who dont like to PvP CONSTANTLY complain about it. When something is introduced to cater to us that might slightly affect you, you complain. You arent the ONLY playstyle to play this game.
I don't appreciate the stereotypes. Every playstyle is just as valid as another. Just because you or others are upset that PvPers got a publish is moot because you were given something too. The bread is passed all the way around the table... it doesn't just stop at your plate... buddy.
Thanks.
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Does it completely escape the non-PvP crowd (aside from myself) that you don't have to be involved in PvP to beat back the invasions?
Invasion of a town ends when the sigil is recaptured by Order (TB or CoM), or the local invasion is completely defeated
Or are you people sitting in your UO house wishing something would happen yet complaining that other people who play a little differently will be the ones that set such events off?
Someone explain this one to me because I fail to see the problem.
Does it completely escape the non-PvP crowd (aside from myself) that you don't have to be involved in PvP to beat back the invasions?
Invasion of a town ends when the sigil is recaptured by Order (TB or CoM), or the local invasion is completely defeated
Or are you people sitting in your UO house wishing something would happen yet complaining that other people who play a little differently will be the ones that set such events off?
Someone explain this one to me because I fail to see the problem.
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You have to be in the PvP Crowd to initiate it........What happens if CoM or TB hold all the sigils for the duration of the time set up for the event? Minax or SL never gets them on your shard...guess what 0 spawn....
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A third party program should not be a requirement to even the playing field.
I do believe I said "Not all, but most"
I won't take it back because it requires you to PvP which is something I don't care to do for all of the reasons I have already stated. Pay attention.
I fully realize that the non-PVP community is not representative of the whole UO player base. Just the vast majority of it. And I reserve the right to complain just as you do, be it CONSTANTLY or intermittent.
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Factions isnt all about PvP.
Make a stealer and steal sigils? Make a trapper? You can still be involved without fighting.
Stop throwing your toys out the pram.
Make a stealer and steal sigils? Make a trapper? You can still be involved without fighting.
Stop throwing your toys out the pram.
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You have to be in the PvP Crowd to initiate it........What happens if CoM or TB hold all the sigils for the duration of the time set up for the event? Minax or SL never gets them on your shard...guess what 0 spawn....
Do you HONESTLY see this scenario occurring?
Edit: and if that DOES occur, there's still Halloween and New Magincia content to work with. This is a pretty big Publish.
You have to be in the PvP Crowd to initiate it........What happens if CoM or TB hold all the sigils for the duration of the time set up for the event? Minax or SL never gets them on your shard...guess what 0 spawn....
Do you HONESTLY see this scenario occurring?
Edit: and if that DOES occur, there's still Halloween and New Magincia content to work with. This is a pretty big Publish.
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Sindris
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Actually, friend... I was not griping about the publish. I'm just fine with it. Just PvP in general. I don't think this publish is going to be quite what the devs expected on the less populated shards, but we're mostly used to that. And its not a stereotype if its true. Buddy.
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I have never cheated in my life nor do my guild - yet we are constantly accussed of it because we basically defeat all others. Cheats are nothing compared to teamwork and skill (i have none but my guild does). Accusations are usually branded when people are killed by something they dont understand, or cant comprehend that people are better than them.
Then dont complain about us controlling it if you arent willing to do anything about it.
And i fully reserve the right to rebutt you, as whenever PvPers make comments about things that affect our playstyle, we get constantly bashed by the majority who tells us to 'deal with it'.
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If you don't cheat, awesome! You are the exception, however, not the rule. I only know what I see , and its ugly.
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If you don't PvP you cant really say that.
Fighting people rather than monsters is alot different - you have to be faster and time your attacks, and be alot more astute.
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On a low population shard it's plausible. I know on Chessy though the opposite is likely to be true. We've got one Minax allied Guild that pretty much makes up over half the shards PvP population being in Minax when you factor in the other Minax supporters....I've not heard of TB or CoM getting a Sigil form them in over 2 weeks.
If this senerio can play out with a SL or Minax faction being dominate it only stands to reason the opposite can hold true. That and it's possible for the PvP community on one shard to try and fubar the event to spite the hated trammies.....
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I have PVP'ed. I did so for quite a while until the cheats and third party programs made it less an exercise in PVP skill than a knowledge of scripting and which programs to run in the background. I have done everything there is to do in this game over the last 11 years, to include champ spawns. I'm not being arbitrary and I'm not the only person who sees what I am talking about. If you enjoy the whole PVP experience, great. If you can tolerate what its become, more power to you. I stand by my original opinion on the state of PVP however.
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When exactly was the last time you witnessed this "cheating". Ill tel ya "freind" that if it was speedhacking as you stated that was so rampant you would see players doing it as they shopped around luna!
HA speed-"shopping"
Maybe you just had a bad connection day. Im not saying it doesnt exist im saying Its rare!
Looks like it's a pretty wild ride ahead ... and not just here on straticsLooking forward to this.
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Will a dev or Jeremy please clarify this?
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I wondered where those Cypress trees were coming from I was seeing at Luna bank. That wasn't even rubble before. Thought maybe they had put a plant growth expediter on TC somewhere/how. On the plus side, GM Beggar FTW. Not saying anything else cause I don't want to spoil it
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A lot of good changes, and new events, nice one =)
I joined a guild with a marginal interest in PVP. Half of them were speedhacking and three-quarters were running PVP scripts. There was absolutely no fear of getting in trouble. At all. The whole cheating situation really has completely collapsed.
What monsters fall under the group of "Void"?
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the conclusion i'm drawing is that it's going to cost a faction player a lot of insurance gold, for these new benefits, once they have multiples they can't use due to insufficient rank.
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Ok draconi, I see you devs are doing your job. Which is to entice people to reopen their closed account. At least I am _tentatively_ reopening mine to try this event, since there is _something_ I can at least enjoy. However there are some things I am concerned, about the long range duration of such interest:
*scratches head* got any idea to solve this impasse?
Finally, what do you plan to do for non faction chars actively helping a faction? I am referring in particular to detectors.
Now, good job in giving something to faction thieves, but... if I remember correctly it is necessary just 80 stealing points to steal a faction sigil. That's worse than being a doom janitor; with the help of jewels and other items you can get to 80 stealing by investing the grand amount of 10/20 skill points in stealing. And even if you had to destinate 80 skill points to stealing that's small enough to still make a full fledged combat character that can both get points by killing AND stealing. Mind you, I have no problem with a thug thief or mage thief. But any thief worth of this name dedicates at least 200 skill points (GM stealing, GM snooping) to the art of stealing. 80 points is by far too small an amount to be fair to true thieves.
What if a sigil is stolen by one thief and brought to the city pedestal by another thief? Or is it possible for any character to bring the sigil from stronghold to the city pedestal?
I have mixed feelings about those issues, which are clearly connected to each other. I understand that the two hours requirement might have been put in place so that thieves can realistically be still online when the process is completed, but only two hours is really too low a time to allow for a battle to develop around sigils. On the other hand, requiring the thief to stay online for 5 hours or such is really too much to ask.
*scratches head* got any idea to solve this impasse?
Finally, what do you plan to do for non faction chars actively helping a faction? I am referring in particular to detectors.
Pardon me if it's already been asked, I haven't seen it, but could someone clarify.
Does 'all dragons' mean dragons & greater dragons or are hiryu,white wyrms and drakes affected too? They're all 'dragon kind' I believe?
Does 'all dragons' mean dragons & greater dragons or are hiryu,white wyrms and drakes affected too? They're all 'dragon kind' I believe?
OMG how can you EVEN SAY THAT? You are sooo wrong, I can fight BETTER without scripts because they are like... so sloow?! And speedhackers are like 1 in a 10000 if they even exist? Just groups of people camping next to the server's physical location, believe you me pal!
And there are no dupes, just honest people working hard!
And the guys I see in Yew with the Gladiator's Collars? It's just my tired eyes playing games, seeing double and all! CUZ THERE IS ONLY ONE GLADIE COLLAR IN THE GAME SO IT MUST BE MY EYES.
I swearz!
And Action Timer Over-ride? NO SUCH THING! You're just lagging ain't you!? Shame on you for this profanity.
And there is/was no combination of Heal/Lesser/Greater that heals up for 90-100 HP in a split second with 50% Enhance Pots!! NONE WHATSOEVER TRUST ME.
Considering Factions, don't even think about accusing ANYONE for joining SOLELY for the PIXEL CRACK! EVER! You hear? ;PpP
OMG how can you EVEN SAY THAT? You are sooo wrong, I can fight BETTER without scripts because they are like... so sloow?! And speedhackers are like 1 in a 10000 if they even exist? Just groups of people camping next to the server's physical location, believe you me pal!
And there are no dupes, just honest people working hard!
And the guys I see in Yew with the Gladiator's Collars? It's just my tired eyes playing games, seeing double and all! CUZ THERE IS ONLY ONE GLADIE COLLAR IN THE GAME SO IT MUST BE MY EYES.
I swearz!
And Action Timer Over-ride? NO SUCH THING! You're just lagging ain't you!? Shame on you for this profanity.
And there is/was no combination of Heal/Lesser/Greater that heals up for 90-100 HP in a split second with 50% Enhance Pots!! NONE WHATSOEVER TRUST ME.
Considering Factions, don't even think about accusing ANYONE for joining SOLELY for the PIXEL CRACK! EVER! You hear? ;PpP
Any chance we could have this invasion only last one real world week, then return Trammel to normal???
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Please tell me you just overlooked listing egg bombs and enchanted apples. These really need to be stackable, much more then sushi trays and cookie pans. These are constantly sold on vendors for pvp and are a pain to keep stocked because they take up so much lock down space in the house.
new quests, new invasion, new halloween treats = w00t!!!