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[UO Herald] FoF: Fifty-six Forever

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As the title suggests, here are a slew of updates and clarifications of stuff coming in Publish 56

To read the article, click here.



More...
 

ColterDC

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"the skill and/or stat caps are not currently planned to change with Stygian Abyss"

Thank god....
 

Beefybone

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Translated!

This question generally seemed to come up as a thinly-veiled request for a tamer nerf, but there's an important point to be made here. Tamers can use skill jewelry to supplement their templates, but if they have a high-end pet and they take the jewelry off, they will have a lower chance of being able to successfully command it.
"I'm just going to ignore the whole thing about retaining stable slots when removing taming jewelry and pretend I didn't hear it, even though it came up in every single thread on the topic."

they will eventually wear out, since Powder of Fortification cannot be used on them (and Powder of Perseverance, the faction version, is more limited.)
"We really want to make all items permanently decay, but we know you'll all quit if we actually make you lose your suits. Here, have another hapless and half-hearted durability nerf on new items."

"Is the item that allows humans to wear elf armor faction-only?" Yes - only characters that are in factions will be able to use them.
"We've decided that everyone must be in factions, or they can go @#$% themselves."
 
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Connor_Graham

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11 Questions answered that I counted, so everyone should be pleased with that much at least.

I'm glad to see bottles are being added to the list of commodity deedable items. I REALLY wish they'd add blank scrolls to that, if not spell scrolls themselves. I'm sure I'm not alone in having hundreds of many of the spells sitting in a neat, organized arrangement for quick spellbook filling. I got a ton of 7th and 8th circle spells off the DF that I hung onto, and those alone weigh 10k stones or more.

I'd also still like to see blackrock as a stackable item.
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Umm....Seriously.

She answered just about every major question we've had on the boards in the past week and a half, and you're complaining about it?

Not one of the things you said is a reasonable "translation" of a damn thing she said.

-Galen's player


Translated!



"I'm just going to ignore the whole thing about retaining stable slots when removing taming jewelry and pretend I didn't hear it, even though it came up in every single thread on the topic."



"We really want to make all items permanently decay, but we know you'll all quit if we actually make you lose your suits. Here, have another hapless and half-hearted durability nerf on new items."



"We've decided that everyone must be in factions, or they can go @#$% themselves."
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Damn....Whether one likes her answers or not, this was a really good Five on Friday.

I do, however, have to point out one glaring omission (sorry J.), and that there wasn't anything in here that reaffirmed that there was event content in the Publish. One of you all devs said that once, awhile ago, and we haven't heard anything on it since.

Would be nice to have undeniable and glaring confirmation that the event is proceeding.

-Galen's player
 
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Jeremy

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Oh, there is - both Shadowlord-arc and Halloween content, actually.

As for the stable slot issue, I'll make sure QA looks into it. There won't be any changes to it in 56 though, certainly - that publish is FULL. :)
 

Galad

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pub56 already 4 days behind schedule.....I'm guessing we'll see it live sometime in November then.
 
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wrekognize

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11 Questions answered that I counted, so everyone should be pleased with that much at least.
and somehow I feel like we have not been told anything. But then again I'm bitter because I was hopeing for more from factions than buffed up items. I'll pout my way back to dread horn and wish I was involved in a halloween event being that it's only three weeks away.


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Eslake

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I won't dispute that it was a good FoF overall... I do fell the need to bring this up...


The additions to Faction gear and now the elf/human gear cross ONLY available in Factions is a rediculous answer to a problem.

Factions isn't suffering because it doesn't have enough REWARDs. It is suffering because there is little or nothing of Interest to it.


Bribing players to participate in something they don't find fun without the bribery isn't a long term solution.
 
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MYUO

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I would like to get a clarification whether a player can wear multiple faction arties (from different ranks) at the same time.
 

Ender

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Probably. Look forward to seeing people with nice resists, 2/3, 25 lmc, 20 lrc, 6 mr and 25 DCI with only 2 armor pieces and a bracelet.
 
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MYUO

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I won't dispute that it was a good FoF overall... I do fell the need to bring this up...


The additions to Faction gear and now the elf/human gear cross ONLY available in Factions is a rediculous answer to a problem.

Factions isn't suffering because it doesn't have enough REWARDs. It is suffering because there is little or nothing of Interest to it.


Bribing players to participate in something they don't find fun without the bribery isn't a long term solution.
I agree. The upcoming faction boom will be motivated by acquiring items instead of controlling towns. Kinda of letting the tail wag the dog.
 

Lord Sir Scott

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Oh, there is - both Shadowlord-arc and Halloween content, actually.

As for the stable slot issue, I'll make sure QA looks into it. There won't be any changes to it in 56 though, certainly - that publish is FULL. :)
Awsome BUT! Will Holloween be lasting intill xmas again?
 

Lady_Rachel

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Can we um...get rid of the

Vanguard Spawn

on Atlantic before the new content?

Or will he be giving out special trick or treats??!!

" Oh you're a cutey! Here you go! Don't let that spoil your dinner now! "

BOOM

*you hear an evil chuckle*
 
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RedDaTeef

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Does anyone else but me feel like this has been taking far too long? :sad4:
Good Job on the posting Jeremy!! Keep up the good work on your end!:loser:
 

AEowynSP

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Oh, there is - both Shadowlord-arc and Halloween content, actually.

As for the stable slot issue, I'll make sure QA looks into it. There won't be any changes to it in 56 though, certainly - that publish is FULL. :)
When you do look into the stable slot issue please keep FIRMLY in mind soul stones. I have 120 vet tame lore all natural, I am now training bard and someday I will stone off all my taming skills knowing that all 14 of my little friends are safely in the stables. If stable slots depends on real skill I am fine with that but I don't want my darlings evicted because I stoned off my skills.
 
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Corrupted Goblin

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11 Questions answered that I counted, so everyone should be pleased with that much at least.

I'm glad to see bottles are being added to the list of commodity deedable items. I REALLY wish they'd add blank scrolls to that, if not spell scrolls themselves. I'm sure I'm not alone in having hundreds of many of the spells sitting in a neat, organized arrangement for quick spellbook filling. I got a ton of 7th and 8th circle spells off the DF that I hung onto, and those alone weigh 10k stones or more.

I'd also still like to see blackrock as a stackable item.
Connor youll be glad to know as soon as the box came out i put in the suggestion for scrolls and jeremy said yes definately, no time frame but they are working on it. (i have like 500k scrolls throughout different banks so i feel your pain. lol)
 
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Connor_Graham

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Connor youll be glad to know as soon as the box came out i put in the suggestion for scrolls and jeremy said yes definately, no time frame but they are working on it. (i have like 500k scrolls throughout different banks so i feel your pain. lol)
That's great! Thanks for letting me know.
 

Kaleb

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Nice 5 on fri today. 4 questions just in the 1 faction topic Goob job!!!
 
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wee papa smurf

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Empty bottles being able to go in a commodity deed!! You've no idea how long i've been wishing this :grouphug:

lol :D
 

Tina Small

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"What is the plan for fixing the naturalist quest?"
In 56, all of the new plants will be added to that quest, so you will have the chance to get them in blaze, black, or white colors. This should also fix the current issue where you only get the new cactus as a reward - it should randomize properly again.
I'm confused regarding the colors of the new plants. White and black plants are mutations that you grow from white or black seeds produced by plants that were cross-pollinated with other plants. You don't get white and black seeds from the Naturalist quest. What you do get are seeds for fire red (blaze), aqua, magenta, or pink plants.

Is the plan to add all of the following to the Naturalist quest: (a) seeds for the new plants in fire red, pink, aqua, and magenta, and (b) seeds for both the old plants and the new plants in black and white? Will there still be a chance to get white and black seeds for the old plants by doing cross pollination?
 

WarUltima

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Satisfying FoF. Comfirmation on faction arties however I would like to know if the arties is limited to 1 or multiple per character. I would guess it's multiple. Thanks for explaining tamer nerfing issue since a lot of players think that tamers only need 25-40 real taming to use high-end pet just like how sampires can get around with almost zero skill. People should be thankful that vamp form is not SS depend which it's supposed to be. Vampires are still alive if you know how to play one.
 
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Beastmaster

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Regine's original post made it sound like this:
Naturalist quest restored to its original operation PLUS if you did the fire seed portion of the quest you would get either a fire seed good for an older plant or the new cactus, or a white or black seed good for the new plants.

Jeremy's FoF seems to say the fire seed portion of the quest will give you either a fire seed good for any old or new plant, or a black or white seed good for the new plants.

Slight change there which is why DHMagic questioned it in the Botany forum, since Jeremy and Regine have an established track record of reading different pages of the same newspaper.
 
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Lady Kiara

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When you do look into the stable slot issue please keep FIRMLY in mind soul stones. I have 120 vet tame lore all natural, I am now training bard and someday I will stone off all my taming skills knowing that all 14 of my little friends are safely in the stables. If stable slots depends on real skill I am fine with that but I don't want my darlings evicted because I stoned off my skills.
I second that!!!!

How would this work i mean if your wearing jewlery to boost your skills in taming or in lore then you take them off for a second does that mean you lose your pets? or is it going to work as if you have pets in the daycare center and once you remove your jewlery they stay(slots stay the same) untill taken out then you can't put them back in till you put your jewlery back on.?.
 
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Connor_Graham

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or is it going to work as if you have pets in the daycare center and once you remove your jewlery they stay(slots stay the same) untill taken out then you can't put them back in till you put your jewlery back on.?.
That right there is the exploit. They should be looking at real skill for the amount of stable slots, and not the skill total with the +skill jewels on.
 
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UltimaSword

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That right there is the exploit. They should be looking at real skill for the amount of stable slots, and not the skill total with the +skill jewels on.
Yup just hope if they change it they give a warning b4 the change so i can make arrangements lol. I have high real skills but i use a bit of + skill to get more slots lol
 

Xanthril of LA

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That right there is the exploit. They should be looking at real skill for the amount of stable slots, and not the skill total with the +skill jewels on.
As I don't play a tamer much, I just don't see the problem with having extra stable space for pets. You can still only control so many slots at a time. I don't see necessarily see it as an exploit. Is it an exploit when my dexxer wears items that boost his strength by 15-20 points, which gives him greater ability to carry items? Because I often have a nearly full backpack it seems, I am really glad that the stuff doesn't just spill on the ground when I die and my stat increasers are not on my char. I also don't know how the change could be implemented with respect to existing overcapacity stables...would the developers boot a random pet, the last one stabled, the one stabled the longest without use? Just a few thoughts.
 

Basara

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Connor - locking them out of their stables completely (unable to pull ANY pets out, let alone put them in) while insufficient skill, would be a good enough fix for that. It would be effectively the same as making it to where a person that is dependent on equipment for STR can't equip certain items until they put the equipment back on.
 

Kaleb

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+Skill items should not take you over 100. If you want to do things that someone does at those higher skill lvls a person should have real skill.
 
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uoBuoY

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I second that!!!!

How would this work i mean if your wearing jewlery to boost your skills in taming or in lore then you take them off for a second does that mean you lose your pets? or is it going to work as if you have pets in the daycare center and once you remove your jewlery they stay(slots stay the same) untill taken out then you can't put them back in till you put your jewlery back on.?.
And what if your jewelled tamer dies with all pets in the stable?
 

Pawain

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Excellent FoF!

That covered the main issues for this week.

You are gonna spoil us. I was hoping to see the vamp form/ tamer debate last for months....
 
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Lady Kiara

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And what if your jewelled tamer dies with all pets in the stable?
My real skill is 110 i can control every thing i boned with....My question is i use jewlery to boost my vet and some lore...if i took off the jewerly i would stand to lose maybe 2 slots...i would think that the pets would still be fine because they where placed in there while jewlery was on.... would i get back the spots if i put them back on? don't know... i really don't think UO DEVS would be so unkind as to just delete any creature that you have....

And i don't think that this would be a exploit because If you wear jewlery and armour to boost your strengh just to get better damage and to be able to carry alot more among other things....when you take off the items your to heavy you put them back on now your not....don't see a difference... if i take off the jewlery i lose the slots put the jewlery back i gain them again...
 

NuSair

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Translated!
"I'm just going to ignore the whole thing about retaining stable slots when removing taming jewelry and pretend I didn't hear it, even though it came up in every single thread on the topic."
It's not that simple.

When you take off the jewelry and loose a form, you aren't loosing anything you cannot get immediately back though just putting the jewelry. If that were to happen with stable slots, you'd loose the pet that's stabled in that slot.

That's a huge difference.
 

Bomb Bloke

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I'm confused regarding the colors of the new plants. White and black plants are mutations that you grow from white or black seeds produced by plants that were cross-pollinated with other plants. You don't get white and black seeds from the Naturalist quest. What you do get are seeds for fire red (blaze), aqua, magenta, or pink plants.
Just a little bump to this question. Given that the Naturalist quest doesn't give out black/white seeds, was the FoF statement accurate?
 

Ailish

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Just a little bump to this question. Given that the Naturalist quest doesn't give out black/white seeds, was the FoF statement accurate?
Sakkara explained this in the Botany Forum. ONLY the new plants will be given out in black and white, and ONLY thru the (previous) Fire arm of the quest. It will be a 1/3 chance to get black, white, or fire - if black or white is rolled, it will be one of the new plants. If Fire is rolled it will be one of the old plants, or the new cactus (if I read her correctly!)
 
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Flora Green

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"Is the item that allows humans to wear elf armor faction-only?" Yes - only characters that are in factions will be able to use them.
That is SO not right. :bs:Weren't we told quite some time ago this was being looked at for EVERYONE? I'm tired of not being able to wear the Elven skirt and I'm sick of the human cheerleader skirt we've had for eons now. Logically humans and elves should not have interchangeable wardrobes, but it is beyond ridiculous your are making this a factions only feature. Give it to everyone.
 
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Xel Naga

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Why is half of all the "new publish content" for uo always just fixes for the bugs they create in the previous publishes -_-
 
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Xel Naga

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That is SO not right. :bs:Weren't we told quite some time ago this was being looked at for EVERYONE? I'm tired of not being able to wear the Elven skirt and I'm sick of the human cheerleader skirt we've had for eons now. Logically humans and elves should not have interchangeable wardrobes, but it is beyond ridiculous your are making this a factions only feature. Give it to everyone.
Logically? Try this one on for size, forever now hats and headgear don't show up on elves. Are their heads magical and their hair dissolves everything that touches it into a tiara? And why do elves skulls magically re-shape solid helmets such as plate and bone to look completely ******** and winged ? If I wear a damn plate helmet I expect it to look the same as it would on a human, not have to polymorph myself into a human just so I don't look like a clown with flat ugly hair graphics.
 
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