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People can dress however they want. It's very strange that the Community Manager is including her personal interests (weird anime stuff) that has nothing to do with UO, with official UO content.So, others have to get approval from you on how they dress?
He mentions how this is a game where people have an alternate reality.
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I tend to agree. The pink ears in virtually all her content was one thing... but now there is anime? Anime unrelated to UO?People can dress however they want. It's very strange that the Community Manager is including her personal interests (weird anime stuff) that has nothing to do with UO, with official UO content.
So you think a game developer does not also include their personal interests? Did you listen to the video?People can dress however they want. It's very strange that the Community Manager is including her personal interests (weird anime stuff) that has nothing to do with UO, with official UO content.
Keep fun out of UO? I don't watch anime but a lot of young people do. So the way to make UO grow is to just appeal to people over 60?Will take it with the increased communication let her have fun but keep it out of uo
So fun you approve OK all other fun bad?Keep fun out of UO? I don't watch anime but a lot of young people do. So the way to make UO grow is to just appeal to people over 60?
My comment on youtube was deleted. I took a screenshot in advance anticipating it.I tend to agree. The pink ears in virtually all her content was one thing... but now there is anime? Anime unrelated to UO?
Her narration of events has generally been good - and we need someone who has thick skin to deal with the community - I'm a UO nerd for sure, but the anime stuff is kind of on another level.
Maybe you forgot what you said.So fun you approve OK all other fun bad?
You are the fun judge not me. I don't care what color someone's hair is or if they have particular headwear. How does that affect you?let her have fun but keep it out of uo
Good, they remove troll posts. I like this new leadership.My comment on youtube was deleted. I took a screenshot in advance anticipating it. View attachment 160587
I meant animeMaybe you forgot what you said.
You are the fun judge not me. I don't care what color someone's hair is or if they have particular headwear. How does that affect you?
Oh no, someone made a fun video with anime. Yall ask for hype and stuff, then complain when someone makes a fun video for UO.I meant anime
You're so full if it I said let her have her fun just Don't add it to UOOh no, someone made a fun video with anime. Yall ask for hype and stuff, then complain when someone makes a fun video for UO.
Where did he say they were putting Anime in UO? I missed that part.You're so full if it I said let her have her fun just Don't add it to UO
I only play games that I like. I only eat food I like etc. The team has kept me entertained since 97.Pawain, when is the last time you disagreed with the dev team?
Server down at 9:00PM, server up at 5:00AM. But also server up multiple times in between for 30 minutes at a time because everything hurts and I keep waking up without my sleeping pill.Keep fun out of UO? I don't watch anime but a lot of young people do. So the way to make UO grow is to just appeal to people over 60?
I play games I like. Some person on a video will not cause me to not play.@Pawain How will the fursona of our CM, which has nothing to do with in game content at all, bring in new people? How is it fun for anyone but her? Look at the reactions she gets on Facebook and the forums, no one is having fun with this stuff. She is in her own world, has been since she was an EM, and in the opinion of many, she is creating a divide within the community.
Pineapple is only good on Pizza if you pair it with Bacon and Jalapeño'sHere are some notes I made from the interview and reading the rest of this thread:
- I have very similar story to Kyronix’s journey in UO, especially in the early days as a young person convincing their parents to let me have this game subscription, the social experience, dropping the game around the time of HS / College but coming back in full force after. I'm glad to know I wasn't the only UO nerd navigating these late 90's troubles as a young gun growing up on the Jersey Shore!
- Greg loves the game, and that has come through in all of these interviews he has done.
- This guy clearly has passion of what it means to grow up in UO... someone who surely has experienced all of the trial and tribulations as a player, as an EM, and now is taking that long history of knowledge to fuel his passion as the lead developer. There's really few other games out there where a story like his that dates back multiple decades exists.
- It’s clear there he is doing a little bit of a ‘media’ tour since his promotion , atleast through some of the various corners of the UO community.
- For the years that everyone has complained all over the place about the lack of communication - between Fenneko as CM and Greg as the lead dev, it appears they're making some efforts to quell this noise. In there world of YouTube, Twitch, Discord and the number of other platforms where you can click a few buttons at any time and have a live video interview, this really helps and I hope continues well into the future. Fingers crossed.
- The endurance of UO… the way it has affected ‘people’ beyond just the pixels in game
- Greg touches on how this community is more than just pixels on a screen, which I think the wider community can certainly attest to. "UO" is more than the game, but it's also these forums, the Discord communities where people talk about everything from soup to nuts and get in voice chats every night, the fact that people have met in UO and now have families (I even know of a couple with children named Luna and Vesper)... again, this speaks to Greg's full breadth of having experienced the community as a young player... he is able to communicate this better than Bonnie did.
- Not thrilled to hear if they’re deleting comments
- this is more of a reflection from this thread... while I know the community can be toxic, if they're deleting comments just because it's an unpopular question, that's kind of a bummer. Greg seems alot more transparent though and I probably need more context on what was deleted - I just hope it's the exception and not the rule.
- Toxic forums
- This is more of a comment from one of the other interviews he has done whereby Greg implied they just have to ignore the forums sometimes... which is really just a shame. The official UO forum still gives alot of people login issues and my guess is that alot of the positive voices out there just stopped bothering with that particular forum. Not saying Stratics always focuses on the right stuff either, but it's a shame that one of the few mediums the developers do read is filled with negativity. This is one of our ways to get through the developers and it sucks when it's clouded with stupidity and personal drama.
- Greg noted that the only way a new player can get involved is by coming to the community… guilds, Discord servers, etc.
- I can't be clear enough to anyone caring to read my notes here that for a community the size of ours... we're all ambassadors of this game. When you see someone out there looking for help, sometimes five minutes of kindness (and a couple million gold!) really do go a long way. I think being active in Discord is almost a minimum requirement at this point if you really want to know where to connect and find people.
- Ryoko makes more sense now why they incorporated some Anime
- In respect to other comments on this thread, I think now that I understand the purpose of some of the focus on anime is probably for reaching out to Japanese players... especially if they're going to have a launch of their own NL server.
- Greg mentioned the spaceship easter egg in SMB II from Nintendo days
- What about instead of incorporating that into the wagon or ballon idea that people are always rustling about
- Publish in the summer? New mounts? Sweet looking new horse?
- This is welcome news - we could use some more horse mounts.
- My assumption is that Kyronix is going to start trying to earn more income in the UO Store. This is whether its through updating with new items more often, more hues that people have been demanding or expanding on the new system for the outfitter tickets. With the UO player base skewing older and having more disposable income, I think this will be a smart move for generating revenue.
- Pineapple on Pizza FTW!
- Addressing the botters and scripters
- I think it’s a good thing they address the fact that they are aware of the botters and whats going on, even if they don’t want to talk about actions being taken. I wish there were some high profile examples of actions they're taking against some of the bad actors, but I'm guessing that will never happen.
- The "O" Constellation program is really hurting the game, IMHO. Competing with the automation in PVP is difficult, if not impossible, if you're only in CC or EC without modification. Some of the recent events were really overrun by the botters farming 24/7. I wish we knew of best way to report these folks, since alot of them seem to come out late at night when there are no GMs available. Never the less, I am hopeful Greg will address it more forcefully.
- I liked the idea of eating food having a more measurable benefit.
- I feel like this is one of the oldest mysteries of UO. Long have I heard people say things like if you keep fizzling on spells, eat something and you will be able to successfully cast again. I'm a big fan of the magical fish pies (very under-appreciated buff!), and if they can expand on that... and make gardening and cooking more valuable trades again, it would be another area to unlock. Maybe they could try something like on NL at the very least?
- KFC is way better outside of the United States!
- OK so this was one of the silly questions that was asked, but I can definitely confirm KFC is much better in England and Ireland. Spent a college semester in London circa 2007 and it was a weekly go-to for a college kid on a budget. Compare that to the US.. and the stereotype that KFC is only in low income areas (per South Park!) is pretty dead on accurate. Just my two cents!
- Love the idea of “flavors of magery”.
- A lot of other games have some sort of specialization you can focus on as you develop skill lines and abilities further. I feel like this has long been a missed opportunity in UO (some of the free shards address this?) and it could really open up more template diversity. Imagine a fire mage, an ice mystic, a lightning mage, etc. Another idea that could be tested on NL for one season and brought over to production shares if it's successful.
- Confirmation of pop up events by Greg
- Mesanna has been doing some pop-up events the last few Fridays. I've not made any myself, but heard that the rewards have been cool - and due to low attendance - likely rare and valuable. The idea of Bonnie - and hopefully some day EMs too - doing pop-up events is a welcome type of community interaction that we need more of.
Overall was an interesting interview. Fenneko did a good job of keeping the conversation moving forward.. she has good cadence with her presentation. Would be nice to see more of these in the future. @Kyronix
My go-to is Pineapple and Pepperoni. Something about the sweet fruit and spicy meat mixed with the cheese and dough... mmmm!Pineapple is only good on Pizza if you pair it with Bacon and Jalapeño's
I believe i'd have to throw banana peppers on it with the pepperoni.My go-to is Pineapple and Pepperoni. Something about the sweet fruit and spicy meat mixed with the cheese and tough... mmmm!
However, my wife is Italian and doesn't let me hear the end of it when I order this!
Its not about customer representation, its about being the public face of a business. As much as I like a good fursona, its not professional and erodes their gravitas as the voice of UO. However, since you're part of point one, I'm sure you'll come back with something snarky that I'm not interested in engaging further.True that lady in Petra Fydes avatar would better represent the average UO player.![]()
I agree with more income from micro transactions who wouldn't pay $50 for customized keep or castleah the "O" problem.... we all know they wont simply ban all people using "O" due to missing out on money they most likely need.
so just make it simple
state that you no longer care which client is used (which seems to be the truth anyway and which would indirect allow it without getting into "offiicial" legal crap with Hotride) but you can only guarantee proper safety and updates to the clients provided by UO (CC, EC, CUO Web)
also state that if you get caught afk running a script you get your account striked
level playing field for everyone, problem solved
from what i see on youtube about it this would give everyone the chance to use the best existing client which is capable to be compettative (if the word is correct) and end the discussion.
and the focus on maybe selling some nice stuff on shop to make some money for more programmers (like a 31*31 plot)
lets face it, the whole "we need to spot bots" went out the windows years ago each of them paying accounts which again makes them needed money.
to make it clear, i would love to have OU without all of that but iam realistic, aint gonna happen
Similar story with me, but luckily for me both my parents were either into UO or other online games so the subscription wasn't too hard for them to agree with. I also dabbled in high school though, but didn't really broadcast it because that was still a time where over half of my friends still didn't have internet so I was an undercover nerd.Here are some notes I made from the interview and reading the rest of this thread:
- I have very similar story to Kyronix’s journey in UO, especially in the early days as a young person convincing their parents to let me have this game subscription, the social experience, dropping the game around the time of HS / College but coming back in full force after. I'm glad to know I wasn't the only UO nerd navigating these late 90's troubles as a young gun growing up on the Jersey Shore!
I completely agree and honestly I think it's a great move because he has already doubled/tripled the communication from the team in his short time compared to when under Bonnie. The days of keeping everything under your hat and expecting the hype to build until you decide to release it are dead and gone; that seems to be the approach Bonnie refused to change. People want to hear from the team and be excited about the new stuff and just giving us a few interviews to get to Greg (and the team) and what to expect down the road is a breath of fresh air for me.
- Greg loves the game, and that has come through in all of these interviews he has done.
- This guy clearly has passion of what it means to grow up in UO... someone who surely has experienced all of the trial and tribulations as a player, as an EM, and now is taking that long history of knowledge to fuel his passion as the lead developer. There's really few other games out there where a story like his that dates back multiple decades exists.
This is huge IMO. I've complained for the last 5 years or so how the Dev team seemingly worked a school teachers schedule where they had limited releases and basically had off all summer and "winter break" (ie Jan/Feb). Having a couple months "off" from an event/publish is fine but nothing new from June-late Sept every year was not good for business (I actually stopped all my subs last summer).Publish in the summer? New mounts? Sweet looking new horse?
- This is welcome news - we could use some more horse mounts.
- My assumption is that Kyronix is going to start trying to earn more income in the UO Store. This is whether its through updating with new items more often, more hues that people have been demanding or expanding on the new system for the outfitter tickets. With the UO player base skewing older and having more disposable income, I think this will be a smart move for generating revenue.
I'm glad he's at least acknowledging them, but I think this goes back to the point above where he's trying to get the revenue stream rolling so banning those paid accounts would be a big hit to the bottom line. Honestly, if the botting scripters weren't so damn obvious about it during these events I wouldn't care. I saw one of the botters scripting in the Yosemite Mines a week or two ago and honestly had I not gone to tame a beetle, I would have never know they were there. That didn't really bother me as there were elders in other parts people can kill. What does bother me is when I see the trains running around killing everything before I have a chance to hit my macro.Addressing the botters and scripters
I've been a huge fan of pop-up style events from the early days in UO where a Seer or whoever would spawn a few bad guys randomly in places like Brit GY and people would work together to kill them and then loot their different looking armor etc. I can see how these sort of one-off events could be seen as favoring certain people's friends though given that, as you said, the drops are likely extremely limited and worth a lot.Confirmation of pop up events by Greg
- Mesanna has been doing some pop-up events the last few Fridays. I've not made any myself, but heard that the rewards have been cool - and due to low attendance - likely rare and valuable. The idea of Bonnie - and hopefully some day EMs too - doing pop-up events is a welcome type of community interaction that we need more of.
there are games where people pay thausands for stuff so why not use the desire of some to make the game better by getting enough for more staffI agree with more income from micro transactions who wouldn't pay $50 for customized keep or castle
60 is a conservative estimateKeep fun out of UO? I don't watch anime but a lot of young people do. So the way to make UO grow is to just appeal to people over 60?
Thank you for the cliff notes @Merlin !! Few thoughts from reading your notes.
Similar story with me, but luckily for me both my parents were either into UO or other online games so the subscription wasn't too hard for them to agree with. I also dabbled in high school though, but didn't really broadcast it because that was still a time where over half of my friends still didn't have internet so I was an undercover nerd.
I completely agree and honestly I think it's a great move because he has already doubled/tripled the communication from the team in his short time compared to when under Bonnie. The days of keeping everything under your hat and expecting the hype to build until you decide to release it are dead and gone; that seems to be the approach Bonnie refused to change. People want to hear from the team and be excited about the new stuff and just giving us a few interviews to get to Greg (and the team) and what to expect down the road is a breath of fresh air for me.
This is huge IMO. I've complained for the last 5 years or so how the Dev team seemingly worked a school teachers schedule where they had limited releases and basically had off all summer and "winter break" (ie Jan/Feb). Having a couple months "off" from an event/publish is fine but nothing new from June-late Sept every year was not good for business (I actually stopped all my subs last summer).
I've seen the uptick in UO Store limited time items... it's definitely a money grab IMO, but I get that he's looking to build revenue which might mean more resources or at the very least not losing resources. As long as publishes with meaningful content continue to roll with the UO Store items, I'm fine with it; especially because there are many people who will pay for the X hued reskinned mount/etc. My only complaint on the UO Store items is that they will need to "fix" the Outfitter if they really want to see an uptick there; meaning the inherent LMC needs to transfer as is AND it should be on the more tan just the paperdoll.
I'm glad he's at least acknowledging them, but I think this goes back to the point above where he's trying to get the revenue stream rolling so banning those paid accounts would be a big hit to the bottom line. Honestly, if the botting scripters weren't so damn obvious about it during these events I wouldn't care. I saw one of the botters scripting in the Yosemite Mines a week or two ago and honestly had I not gone to tame a beetle, I would have never know they were there. That didn't really bother me as there were elders in other parts people can kill. What does bother me is when I see the trains running around killing everything before I have a chance to hit my macro.
I've been a huge fan of pop-up style events from the early days in UO where a Seer or whoever would spawn a few bad guys randomly in places like Brit GY and people would work together to kill them and then loot their different looking armor etc. I can see how these sort of one-off events could be seen as favoring certain people's friends though given that, as you said, the drops are likely extremely limited and worth a lot.
I've been a big advocate of doing these pop-up events for holidays but make it the entire day (or couple days leading up up to it). So for St. Patty's Day there would have been leprechauns randomly spawning (maybe you needed tracking & detect hidden) that when you killed them you would either get their clothes (labeled "leprechauns hat" etc) or their pot of gold. These would all be decoration only (no major stats). Easter same thing... randomly in the woods there would be a larger rabbit ("Easter Bunny") that you could kill/steal from and you would get like "Easter Bunny's carrot" or something for the holiday.
Like I said, these things would be available on every shard from server up to server down (or a few days) and would occur randomly. This is how I think they combat the bots because the scripters would literally need to send all of their bots randomly through the woods/mountains if they wanted to script it.
There have been quite a few times during an event on LS where I have heard, Hold on my nurse needs to give me meds. Hold on my nurse needs to empty my bag.60 is a conservative estimate
sorry i'm so late to the posting, i still hold a full time job, im not in the nursing home quite yet LOL