Honestly, this is just another tone-deaf moment by Messena. Thieves need love, I think we can all agree on that. However, they need long-term love, not a one off clicky steal the present love (limited to one chance per account on top of that). Add to it that the ones screaming the loudest about no Christmas gifts are traditionally the hardcore non-PVP crowd. What you come up with is tone-deaf at best, spiteful at worst. Given some of the interactions Queen B has had with players in the past, I'm pretty sure I know which way I'd lean.
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You reap what you sow... so treat your playerbase like crap and get crap thrown back at you.
It isn't about what they were worth... It was about did you like them and want them... but that is lost on most... gifts are only gifts if they are given... not taken. But whatever... you all know where I stand on it. To me, this should be an eye-opening awakening for all those who think the DEVs give one f*** for you. The new UO has been revealed to you...
It isn't about what they were worth... It was about did you like them and want them... but that is lost on most... gifts are only gifts if they are given... not taken. But whatever... you all know where I stand on it. To me, this should be an eye-opening awakening for all those who think the DEVs give one f*** for you. The new UO has been revealed to you...
I didn't have any problems either with any account on Atl server or other servers.
I wasn't so much complaining about going to Fel more than trying to understand why she subjected players that dislike Fel to discomfort/griefing and also wondering where Armstrong's head is at - and I won't say what I want to say but I bet she can see what she had for dinner - that is, if she can move the other people's heads and noses that can see what she had for dinner, out of her way.
I don't mind going to Fel, I still pvp some and have houses in Fel but do most pvp in other games because those games have detection for cheats which evens the score pretty much across the field and they have actual rewards for pvp.
I remember before they nerfed greater explosion potions, I would get my thief out and I would pack about 30-40 of them loose in my pack (loose, in case other thieves stole one or two, they wouldn't get a whole stack) and then go out and find some pvper's and let them track me, get as many as possible, as close as possible and then dbl click one of the potions, which would trigger a chain reaction with all the other potions and wait for the carnage. Good times! Blood, guts, body parts and dead mounts everywhere, looked like Hamburger Hill but in UO. The lag would be horrible, the screen would freeze for several seconds on a 14.4 modem but it was always so much fun and so well worth the lag to see most of the mob standing around as ghosts.
Maybe this still works to an extent? It could possibly work with any other Fel events in the future. I may have to try that in a few minutes and see if it is still as fun and powerful enough to kill a player or two. You can test this by getting several potions and making a line out of them on the ground and dbl clicking one of them and seeing if they create a chain reaction, if it does, it may still work.As far as thieves go, I used to get some pretty good stuff off of escort npcs but that was at least a decade ago if not longer. I'm betting the stuff they carry now sucks compared to all the artifacts ingame now. Thieves do need something new but if this was Armstrong's way of doing it, she's coming across as extremely lazy and uninvolved with the players on both accounts.
The alchemist was on vacation the rest of the event....
All the devs had to do was come up with an event where people unite together instead of pitting them against each other. I never enjoyed making others feel miserable tbh, even if they made an mistake. Plus it was valentine's day lol. I think it's simply bad taste on the dev's behalf.
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To many people hold on to we need more PvP/We need more victims in fel. PvP should be elevated to a status that does not require victims but more player who want to pvp. It is a mistake to force players into pvp for pvm rewards, pvp rewards should be their own as in most games.
This situation of gifts being stolen seems to hit casual and older players with bad sight and reaction time which I consider in poor taste.
If they do not think about who will be the victim then they will lose casual players from this type of action.
This situation of gifts being stolen seems to hit casual and older players with bad sight and reaction time which I consider in poor taste.
If they do not think about who will be the victim then they will lose casual players from this type of action.
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@Billy Butcher I agree with you 100%
She's lost the plot, in fact they all have, why bother to give a gift with one hand when you intend it to be forcibly taken away with the other, the whole seasonal gift thing now just feels like total disdain for her paying customers.
No gift at Christmas and I don't buy that her intention was for people to grind for it, who wants table legs for Christmas, in fact most of the rewards in that event were pretty much rubbish! She just plain forgot to sort out Christmas gifts because she has a new toy to think about, but as usual she couldn't even admit to making a mistake. As expected, people were disappointed and vocally so, Valentine's Day comes around and being such a delightful, kind person she retaliates for all the Christmas hate by doing something she knows a lot of people will be unhappy with, making it one per account was the cherry on the top. She doesn't care that the player-base has many older people with disabilities and often they just love decorating their homes nowadays.
She has fallen so far from having ANY respect from so many people now, I can think of a few things to call her but I'm too much of a lady to stoop to her level.
She's lost the plot, in fact they all have, why bother to give a gift with one hand when you intend it to be forcibly taken away with the other, the whole seasonal gift thing now just feels like total disdain for her paying customers.
No gift at Christmas and I don't buy that her intention was for people to grind for it, who wants table legs for Christmas, in fact most of the rewards in that event were pretty much rubbish! She just plain forgot to sort out Christmas gifts because she has a new toy to think about, but as usual she couldn't even admit to making a mistake. As expected, people were disappointed and vocally so, Valentine's Day comes around and being such a delightful, kind person she retaliates for all the Christmas hate by doing something she knows a lot of people will be unhappy with, making it one per account was the cherry on the top. She doesn't care that the player-base has many older people with disabilities and often they just love decorating their homes nowadays.
She has fallen so far from having ANY respect from so many people now, I can think of a few things to call her but I'm too much of a lady to stoop to her level.
If you think there will ever be an event that unites everyone without pitting them against each other you are out of touch with reality (and especially UO). There will always be people that want to be the best / get the most drops. Do you really think any other event unites everyone? EM Events (you have tons of multi acct gargs trying to get the most rewards) or super toon sampires going through the dungeons for treasures of trying to kill everything in sight quicker than anyone else (sometimes leaving paragons) all because they want more drops. Then they sell those drops to people they beat out for them (reminds me of this event...).
I maintain that this event did actually bring people together as much as it could. There would be times that I had 4-5 people waiting around the statue trying to stop me from stealing others statues. They would warn people/reveal me/invis others/try to block me/etc. This was several hours people would stand there literally doing nothing (at least I had a chance to steal something)... I was uniting many people. The times I was most successful was when I started a new session of lurking in the shadows because nobody was there except for my victims. In fact, people are even unifying on these boards (the people I unfortunately probably couldn't steal from) whining about how mean the Devs are.
But I guess everyone would prefer a tram clicky instead because THAT is what really unites people right? I believe the last clicky was the gnome in Brit Commons (Tram) and I literally took like 10 chars across various shards to get one and then logged out and never really saw anyone or if I did I didn't interact with them... you call might that unity but I think that required a whole lot less unity.
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The clicky's used to have a timer.
I even posted on the official forums
asking when the end date is.
it is disappointing that they didn't even bother to reply.
with the wizard, you knew exactly when it would disappear.
but the cupid just goes poof
game over for valentine's
I even posted on the official forums
asking when the end date is.
it is disappointing that they didn't even bother to reply.
with the wizard, you knew exactly when it would disappear.
but the cupid just goes poof
game over for valentine's
They allready took the clicky down? WTF it's only been 3 days. Some of have jobs and a life outside and aren't able to immediately drop what we're doing. F'ing brilliant!
I have tons of statues to sell anyone who is interested in claiming this year's reward... I've already wiped away my dirty fingerprints from the goods and they are ready to be sold!! Let me know the quantity you need (if it's enough I'll even shard hop).
Tbh, I don't see the point trying to argue with you again. I agree with many posters in this thread who also voiced that the decision to put a valentine's gift in fel is kind of bad taste on the dev's behalf. I didn't see anyone whining about mean devs. But if you did, so be it. Cheers.
There isn't a point because you don't have one. I have not seen someone with such poor reading/researching skills. Please see the following posts from this thread which I found within about 30 seconds of checking. Do you even think before you post?
Also, unless you actually pay for a subscription (which you have said you have quit the game aka "took the highway") then your opinion is pretty much null and void. You coming here to post about a game you don't play anymore shows how desperate you are for attention. Like the bitter ex after they were not devastated by you leaving.... UO has moved on without ya pal sorry she ain't sorry
Oh, I'm still paying you fool... I just choose not to play this crap at this point... though I am working on quitting... I have hardly logged into the game in over a year but to look at a few things and see nothing has changed... same BS new day... So don't get on your high horse with me... I follow it closely to see if they are going to get their crap together and actually do something decent for the game... But it's been only getting worse.There isn't a point because you don't have one. I have not seen someone with such poor reading/researching skills. Please see the following posts from this thread which I found within about 30 seconds of checking. Do you even think before you post?
Also, unless you actually pay for a subscription (which you have said you have quit the game aka "took the highway") then your opinion is pretty much null and void. You coming here to post about a game you don't play anymore shows how desperate you are for attention. Like the bitter ex after they were not devastated by you leaving.... UO has moved on without ya pal sorry she ain't sorry
So I keep calling Truth to their BS... And will continue to do so...
Valentines Day got promoted this year, to actually be part of UO, good effort, good result.
Can all the over-sensitives please pipe down.
Next event please!
I'm seriously worried about High Sea's stuff, never done it, don't know how to...
Edit - I meant to say - @Keven2002 yeah, I agree on 99% of your posts also, you're not bad for an Atlantic player
Can all the over-sensitives please pipe down.
Next event please!
I'm seriously worried about High Sea's stuff, never done it, don't know how to...
Edit - I meant to say - @Keven2002 yeah, I agree on 99% of your posts also, you're not bad for an Atlantic player
Nice attempt at gatekeeping, but since I do still pay for a subscription even during breaks in play I guess I do still get to post my opinion. If you think UO isn't poorly run and Messena hasn't proven herself to be a bit spiteful, then this is just another thing we aren't going to agree upon. I enjoy discussing issues with you, but you always fall back to attacking the person instead of sticking to the argument of the issue - so this is another thread I'm done discussing the matter with you.Also, unless you actually pay for a subscription (which you have said you have quit the game aka "took the highway") then your opinion is pretty much null and void. You coming here to post about a game you don't play anymore shows how desperate you are for attention. Like the bitter ex after they were not devastated by you leaving.... UO has moved on without ya pal sorry she ain't sorry
@Veldrane - I am happy to discuss things with you as well and my post wasn't an attack on you; I was actually making the "paying comment" to @petemage as he said he let his account lapse and his house fell. I used others post to show him that people were complaining about the Devs making the clicky in Fel. I am happy to have dialogue with people who want to discuss the topics rather than make hypocritical post without back up.
To be clear, I also never said I didn't think UO isn't poorly run. I was one of the biggest critics on UO last year from Jan-Aug with the lack of communication and content. We can agree on UO could be run better.
That said, it seems like everyone just loves to bash the Devs no matter what they do and V-Day was the perfect example. People complained because they didn't get a holiday token...fast forward to V-Day and actually getting a statue and half the people are complaining bc it was in Fel and the other half because the gift was "stupid looking". Another example is the content from Sept-Jan15... people complain about lack of content and then complain because there is too much going on and they "need a break". I've said before you couldn't pay me enough to be a Dev because there is simply no pleasing a large number of UO players.
@MalagAste - I'm confident you do keep your subscriptions and I think I might have actually seen you giving a player advice when I was hiding in Heartwood. They told the other player "you should write an email to the Devs saying they need to change this and if they don't you are canceling your accounts... of course you won't but just tell them that"
(this actually happened I promise). I've actually come to accept who you are as a person though... you are that person who drives 30min out of the way to go to some crappy diner you have gone to for the past 20 years... you stopped enjoying the food/service probably 15 years ago so all you do is come in order the same thing and just complain how it's not as good as it used to be... but you go back every week just because.You going in every week and complaining is just how you "stick it to them"... I get it (kinda lol).
To be clear, I also never said I didn't think UO isn't poorly run. I was one of the biggest critics on UO last year from Jan-Aug with the lack of communication and content. We can agree on UO could be run better.
That said, it seems like everyone just loves to bash the Devs no matter what they do and V-Day was the perfect example. People complained because they didn't get a holiday token...fast forward to V-Day and actually getting a statue and half the people are complaining bc it was in Fel and the other half because the gift was "stupid looking". Another example is the content from Sept-Jan15... people complain about lack of content and then complain because there is too much going on and they "need a break". I've said before you couldn't pay me enough to be a Dev because there is simply no pleasing a large number of UO players.
@MalagAste - I'm confident you do keep your subscriptions and I think I might have actually seen you giving a player advice when I was hiding in Heartwood. They told the other player "you should write an email to the Devs saying they need to change this and if they don't you are canceling your accounts... of course you won't but just tell them that"
(this actually happened I promise). I've actually come to accept who you are as a person though... you are that person who drives 30min out of the way to go to some crappy diner you have gone to for the past 20 years... you stopped enjoying the food/service probably 15 years ago so all you do is come in order the same thing and just complain how it's not as good as it used to be... but you go back every week just because.You going in every week and complaining is just how you "stick it to them"... I get it (kinda lol).
Mesanna pays once every three months so she doesn't go IDOC.....
You mean to tell me a person who runs an illegal gold selling website that is against TOS was privy to my information because I bought 2 shirts? WAFFLE THE FUDGE!
I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to tell me. The point is Mesanna is not only turning a blind eye to some very known gold sellers, but rather actively funneling UO money into their pockets. I personally despise that and would rather see them out of business than being catered to by the very producer of UO. I know that one very prominent of those is banned on Stratics and I applaud Stratics for it.
But of course everyone is free to buy from them on the swag store or their gold/gametime/uohouses/account shops.
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