I believe that to be correct. Except jewelry.So if you want to repeatedly be able to increase an item up to 255 Durablilty then it would have to be a clean piece or prized correct?
They're not wrong. They just have a different opinion from yours. There's a difference.I need to step in here.
Most of the explanation is correct but when it comes to antique i need to add something. Antique is not Junk in general
Antique jewels are the way to go in pvp. These jewels (if the mods Match) can sell for several billions (we are speaking here about 10-15+ mods)
Antique armor can be used for workers / traders etc. Good as long as you dont fight.
Antique weapons can be used for pvp. I saw some nasty splintering. But you have to accept that they will wear out very fast. So i would not use them for primary weapon.
Also. Antique can be powdered 2 times (except jewel) i think to remember first back to 200 then to 100 or so (someone may know it)
@Capt. Lucky @MalagAste
Your Statements are wrong sorry. Antique is no where near trash. But feel free to drop me your found antique legendary and major jewels into my Mailbox
To me they're total trash and would NEVER use them. I get one in loot I might play around with it a little but I would never actually pay for antique or brittle. You have your preference and I have mine. I don't build suits and skills around stuff that ain't gonna be around long. People give me a story about how it lasts forever and when ever I get one it's done in a week or two. Maybe like you say it might have some value to a crafter. I don't use replica or any of that. If it can't be POFed I don't need it. It's always prized or better for me. I have accumulated a few 100 jewels that don't have durability either. But hey! Use, buy whatever ya want I don't care. As long as you know what your getting.I need to step in here.
Most of the explanation is correct but when it comes to antique i need to add something. Antique is not Junk in general
Antique jewels are the way to go in pvp. These jewels (if the mods Match) can sell for several billions (we are speaking here about 10-15+ mods)
Antique armor can be used for workers / traders etc. Good as long as you dont fight.
Antique weapons can be used for pvp. I saw some nasty splintering. But you have to accept that they will wear out very fast. So i would not use them for primary weapon.
Also. Antique can be powdered 2 times (except jewel) i think to remember first back to 200 then to 100 or so (someone may know it)
@Capt. Lucky @MalagAste
Your Statements are wrong sorry. Antique is no where near trash. But feel free to drop me your found antique legendary and major jewels into my Mailbox
What is this repair figure of below 30 based on? Has anyone ever seen or heard a dev explain the process? I'd love to know the official stats. I know everyone has their experience/opinion but I'd sure like to see how it is coded, chance to succeed/fail at various levels etc.I use antique also in pvm. But it's very limited.
Using them on a mage is sort of ok.
On a tamer which uses Mastery its Problematik. One roof with all the rooms before then I have to repair my ring.
Due to the fact that i use EC. Carry a imbued ring with some Minimum mods for small stuff. The antique i switch in for the Big stuff
I would not use antique weapons on warrior but I'd say a jewel properly cared of could be used good while.
Do not repair them below 30 to fail less.
Dont use high end pieces for pvm. Use moderate easy to replace ones. Then u are good.
Sell the high end ones to pvp er.
Ok lets put it into perspective here... I have 10+ accounts and 90 some characters on my "home" shard..... plus building a Tamer on every shard... and whatnot... That's a TON of characters.... some of them I use VERY frequently for hard core PvM and some PvP..... I don't have time in-game to waste constantly finding crap for my characters... I'm also not about to go dancing around with swapping suits from this character to that character not only is that how you lose stuff but that's how you wind up NOT having stuff insured and really losing stuff and I'd rather not spend precious time trying to figure out what the heck character had the suit I want on last.I need to step in here.
Most of the explanation is correct but when it comes to antique i need to add something. Antique is not Junk in general
Antique jewels are the way to go in pvp. These jewels (if the mods Match) can sell for several billions (we are speaking here about 10-15+ mods)
Antique armor can be used for workers / traders etc. Good as long as you dont fight.
Antique weapons can be used for pvp. I saw some nasty splintering. But you have to accept that they will wear out very fast. So i would not use them for primary weapon.
Also. Antique can be powdered 2 times (except jewel) i think to remember first back to 200 then to 100 or so (someone may know it)
@Capt. Lucky @MalagAste
Your Statements are wrong sorry. Antique is no where near trash. But feel free to drop me your found antique legendary and major jewels into my Mailbox
Ok lets put it into perspective here... I have 10+ accounts and 90 some characters on my "home" shard..... plus building a Tamer on every shard... and whatnot... That's a TON of characters.... some of them I use VERY frequently for hard core PvM and some PvP..... I don't have time in-game to waste constantly finding crap for my characters... I'm also not about to go dancing around with swapping suits from this character to that character not only is that how you lose stuff but that's how you wind up NOT having stuff insured and really losing stuff and I'd rather not spend precious time trying to figure out what the heck character had the suit I want on last.
So NO IMO Antique is Garbage... Not gonna waste my time building up a suit around something I'm going to have to continually farm to replace... there is barely enough time in the days I can play to do what I do in the first place. Having to continually update stuff like virtues, suits, reagents whatever is just a waste of time. Grinding things is boring and I'd rather just buy what I need and let someone else spend the endless hours grinding... at this point my time is better spent hanging with friends... which IMO is more important than stuff.
This your first time in a discussion forum?This will be may last Post in this topic as i dont want to mess around with the OP.
As said. The OP wanted an explanation n not your Personal opinion.
I dont know what ur Problem is.This your first time in a discussion forum?
What's the problem? If a ton of us won't touch antique or brittle then it's more stuff for everyone else lol
Well if he wants a cold by the book answer it's called Google. However when I was returning and this was a new concept for me I paid a lot for some items I deeply regretted buying as I watched them fall apart. So a word to the wise is to be completely informed. Buy what you want but know what it is your getting.Great opinions, guys. As @Finley Grant stated, OP wasn't looking for your opinions. To give an objective answer, it's important to explain the benefits and practical use cases for antique gear as well.
Cause some people have so much ****ing gold in this game it's insane. 50 million is nothing to them to be PvP king for 2 weeks. That's my theory. My crafters don't need uber items lol I realize a lot of folks are trying to make a coin of this stuff. But I seriously wonder why anyone buys it. This is an insane Atlantic thing going on. On Legends you can buy artifacts for 25 or 50K lol. But I guess if your desperate on a shard like Atlantic you buy whatever you can get. Show me a brittle item and the same item that's prized. Which would you pay more for? Why is that? lol All I'm saying. You can buy something at Walmart or buy it from Sears. See which one your happy with in the long run. Well Sears use to be a quality store at one time, not so positive these days.Finley is right. You can use Antique for MANY MANY templates without any problems as you can repair them MANY MANY times. On my main PVM-char on Siege (!) I am using Antique Major Jewelry with awesome stats and have repaired them 15+ times (still up to 230 or something in Dura). These pieces are lasting for 8 months now - with daily hunting for 1h+. So all crap?
Everybody who says something else is just ignorant and not very creative. Just look at the trade forums. Why do people spend millions and millions for antique stuff? Yeah, they are all stupid. The market is stupid. And people having no idea of what they are talking about (cuz they dont use the stuff), are the pinnacles of wisdom.
Well i guess you better have googled upfront before spending money what this Malus means and for what they can be used.Well if he wants a cold by the book answer it's called Google. However when I was returning and this was a new concept for me I paid a lot for some items I deeply regretted buying as I watched them fall apart. So a word to the wise is to be completely informed. Buy what you want but know what it is your getting.
Well again. Its only your fault alone that if you buy stuff for too much money. That usually happens if you dont Informationen yourself first.Cause some people have so much ****ing gold in this game it's insane. 50 million is nothing to them to be PvP king for 2 weeks. That's my theory. My crafters don't need uber items lol I realize a lot of folks are trying to make a coin of this stuff. But I seriously wonder why anyone buys it. This is an insane Atlantic thing going on. On Legends you can buy artifacts for 25 or 50K lol. But I guess if your desperate on a shard like Atlantic you buy whatever you can get. Show me a brittle item and the same item that's prized. Which would you pay more for? Why is that? lol All I'm saying. You can buy something at Walmart or buy it from Sears. See which one your happy with in the long run. Well Sears use to be a quality store at one time, not so positive these days.
Right... artifacts also go for 25 or 50k on Atlantic as well... and some go for way more. The combination of stats that make up the item will dictate the price. The ones going for a lot of gold are going to be ones that contain the perfect combination of stats. Just because SOME artifacts go for 25 - 50k doesn't mean that is the price for ALL artifacts. Also, OP never mentioned what kind of temp he is building / using, so you can't just assume that he has no use for antique jewelry. You are just assuming he is going to play the game exactly like you would.Cause some people have so much ****ing gold in this game it's insane. 50 million is nothing to them to be PvP king for 2 weeks. That's my theory. My crafters don't need uber items lol I realize a lot of folks are trying to make a coin of this stuff. But I seriously wonder why anyone buys it. This is an insane Atlantic thing going on. On Legends you can buy artifacts for 25 or 50K lol. But I guess if your desperate on a shard like Atlantic you buy whatever you can get. Show me a brittle item and the same item that's prized. Which would you pay more for? Why is that? lol All I'm saying. You can buy something at Walmart or buy it from Sears. See which one your happy with in the long run. Well Sears use to be a quality store at one time, not so positive these days.
Well if he wants a cold by the book answer it's called Google.
If your ok with having uber stats for a brief time that's fine with me. You should make any choice you want as will I. Only real point you made worth addressing.Right... artifacts also go for 25 or 50k on Atlantic as well... and some go for way more. The combination of stats that make up the item will dictate the price. The ones going for a lot of gold are going to be ones that contain the perfect combination of stats. Just because SOME artifacts go for 25 - 50k doesn't mean that is the price for ALL artifacts. Also, OP never mentioned what kind of temp he is building / using, so you can't just assume that he has no use for antique jewelry. You are just assuming he is going to play the game exactly like you would.
The walmart / sears analogy makes no sense because these types of items are different with different uses. The antique jewelry you find will not have a non-antique version, this is why more stats will be packed on it. Obviously, if you have a piece of antique gear, and you find another item with the exact same stats and it's not antique, you would go with the non-antique one. That is not the case here though, these antique artifacts will not have non-antique versions with the same amount / combination of stats.
Yeah they're soooo popular people demanded filters in search so they didn't even have to look at them. They're trash. I'm just not gonna let you sucker someone who doesn't know better. I paid a heavy price when I returned and was broke and got scammed with this trash gear. I just don't want to see it happening to someone else. If you guys wanna pay for 2nd class stuff it's no concern of mine. I don't even care. Well they're great for say a crafter! lol Whatever....No one is trying to convince you to buy anything. I haven't even given my opinion on it. My main has no antique gear at all, that doesn't stop me from acknowledging what it's good for. "2nd rate" is wrong, not an opinion. You really aren't understanding the point here are you ? Or you were just proven wrong and are too stubborn to admit it. Everyone else is providing facts while you are putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "it's crap! I'll do what I want!!" all while no one is even telling you that you can't. Thread over
You can have it lolShow me a prized piece like this
..I'll pay a boat load
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Just another Fel V Tram type of debate, LMAO. OP look at ALL of the info and then use your better judgement to decide, these are all opinions which people all have.LMAO. I'm not even sure what you guys are arguing over. Some people like Antique. Some people don't. The End