UO 2D client upgrade in the works: post your wishes

[Phantasmagorian]

So in this thread I would like to collect everyone's ideas on upgrades they would like in the 2D client. Note: this GM mentioned no promises can be made, but that they are looking into it. And game window size enlargement is one of the things they would add when upgrading the 2D client.

 

[Angel of Sonoma]

Hue identification tool.
Auto loot tool.
Auto target.

 

[Eärendil]

Auto loot and backpack revamp (item list). Recording tool for macros. Targeting revamp and ingame configurable chat-system for inter-guild-communication, if not allied.

 

[Merus]

Expanded game window
Auto-dress & Suit swapping
Filter for object handles
Autoloot w/filters

 

[GarthGrey]

Invulnerability toggle switch cuz the rest of the requests aint happening either.

 

[Archnight]

Invulnerability toggle switch

Yeah, something like this hehe

 

[temu]

I would like to be able to bind keys that instantly switch between multiple (more than two) weapons.

 

[Gameboy]

I wish I had more choices on resizing my game play window.

 

[Digowiz]

Easy way to bind keys to actions. A way to lock buttons on the GUI like in the EC.

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[Zosimus]

Go back to the KR art.

Let the player base know what 3rd party programs that are officially legal to use with the CC.

Update The patcher where you can log in and play while patching

 

[cobb]

I would like to see the auto navigate feature added to the 2D client so I can run around obstacles easier

 

[Deraj]

1. Improved journal logging - saves logs including timestamps, sorted into files by date, and configured through in-game options
2. Improved macro interface - replace drop downs with listbox, have a listbox for all current macros instead of "Previous / Next" buttons, add more actions such as use or select by type or serial

I don't have any expectations, but I can dream.

 

[The Craftsman]

Go back to the KR art.

I think the idea behind a revamp is to make the cc more user friendly. Not to get all the cc users to quit.

 

[transcendent]

I really hope it happens

 

[Lord Frodo]

How about as long as we are attended we can use any 3rd party app with CC excluding the multi client control one.

 

[Aran]

Leave it the **** alone and stop touching it because all you do is break it and make it worse.

 

[Tanivar]

Give us a way to change the journal colors so that we can read the text, the current color combos leave much of it unreadable.

Connect the EC mapping feature to the CC.

 

[SugarMMM]

Another vote for item hue ID.

A toggle to turn off/on night sight.

 

[Slayvite]

Don't want to be a party pooper but didn't they already say it wouldn't be a client re-vamp as that is just not possible anymore without it being a complete re-write (which they wont do).
This is only gonna be looking at the possibility of an increased game window size.
Again, 'we' know it's been done by that 3rd party app in the past but they don't know if the server could handle it on a large scale at their end.

 

[Tanivar]

Don't want to be a party pooper but didn't they already say it wouldn't be a client re-vamp as that is just not possible anymore without it being a complete re-write (which they wont do).

Who knows what might be an easy change they'd decide to make for us once they've burrowed further into that old code and ran across how to do it. Might not get them to burrow in there again.

 

[Petra Fyde]

Don't want to be a party pooper but didn't they already say it wouldn't be a client re-vamp as that is just not possible anymore without it being a complete re-write (which they wont do).
This is only gonna be looking at the possibility of an increased game window size.
Again, 'we' know it's been done by that 3rd party app in the past but they don't know if the server could handle it on a large scale at their end.

Yes, they did. But I hesitated to post it because I couldn't find the quote - I tend not to be believed if I can't link to the information.

 

[Phantasmagorian]

A complete overhaul won't happen now, it's about the game window size and a few other things. I was told the game window size was "one of the things they were looking into". I think the additions will be in the realm of the ones that came in the last years to deal with new content. Obviously we need zoom in addiction enlargement for the game window. Seeing much more terrain would indeed be a strain both fro the server and the player's eyes. You need a 1.5 zoom or so. They'll probablyhave to use some filtering method for the low-res art not the be very ugly. More is possible than may seem, client-side, look at Super Nintendo emulators using various filters to make what looks pixelated smooth and very acceptable. In any case, game window screen enlargement + zoom and a few minor but handy improvements would be very welcome in my book.

 

[Ellie]

The journals are terrible for vvv (the orange everyone is) as you cant see who is coming in. Its hard also to fix the colors so everyone can see them. On screen they are fine but sometimes in the journal they are hard to read.

 

[Spartan]

Three I would like to see - out of all that have been written:
1. ability to resize game window for larger resolution screens.
2. KR art would be a big plus IMO.
3. Better macro recording ability than exists ... altho not perfect, UOAssist has a decent one.

 

[Prince Erik]

I just had this evil thought... Could you imagine if their idea of fixing the resolution of the CC is to convert the play area of the CC to the zoomable EC play area... Not that I think it's possible, but, imagine the response THAT would get.

-P.E.

 

[GarthGrey]

Three I would like to see - out of all that have been written:
1. ability to resize game window for larger resolution screens.
2. KR art would be a big plus IMO.
3. Better macro recording ability than exists ... altho not perfect, UOAssist has a decent one.

The current client macro ability isn't too bad. The only difference is UOA has those "menu selection" options that the client doesn't. The client is better because of the Wait for target option, that on UOA is pause 500 etc...which is lame and causes issues every now and then.

 

[OREOGL]

I'd like to see Macro functions like targeting with mouse wheel and potions, the auto dress function, increased map sizing and party tracking on it.

Okay size window seemed pretty minor to me, since I'd probably downsize it for spells etc anyways.

 

[J. E. Tamer]

OOC:
1. Right mouse button alone should be used ONLY for movement.
How many times have you wanted to walk, but you right-clicked on a spell icon accidentally and you lost your spell icon?
Or you right-clicked on a target and didn't go anywhere?

This was bad design from day one. Please fix. For getting rid of spell icons and gumps, how about double right click, or shift right click?

2. Player-written books. Fix the two clients for reading and writing to be the same way in both. As it is now, books written or edited with the "Enhanced" client look trashed in classic client. This has been broken for years, and historic guestbooks have been ruined. Also look into quality assurance who did not catch this, and your programming team who have allowed this tragic bug to persist for years.

 

[J. E. Tamer]

OOC: Bring back "remember password"

 

[Phantasmagorian]

What I have an issue with is the order of actions in the macro getting messed up. Am I doing something wrong or is this a known bug? I put in a spell, delay, skill.. and when I alter something, suddenly the delay will be after the skill instead of in between.

 

[Deraj]

What I have an issue with is the order of actions in the macro getting messed up. Am I doing something wrong or is this a known bug? I put in a spell, delay, skill.. and when I alter something, suddenly the delay will be after the skill instead of in between.

I have run into that in the course of setting up multiple macros, not sure what causes it but it's very annoying.

 

[Thrakkar]

Yes, they did. But I hesitated to post it because I couldn't find the quote - I tend not to be believed if I can't link to the information.

It was in the Newsletter #3:

When we first investigated this it was discovered by increasing the classic client window size it become a performance issue and visually unacceptable. Since it has been several years we are willing to look at this issue again to see if anything can be done.

UO 2D client upgrade in the works: post your wishes

It is truly amazing with which lurid title the OP managed to come up with.
They didn't promise anything. Just having a look, IF something can be done. Yet he tries to make everyone believe, that this is already a done deal.

 

[Cyrah]

I am a cc user and have been forever. I liked KR art and I would play it.

 

[Aran]

I want all the old "placeholder" art back and the removal of all the ungodly **** that looks completely out of place they put in our game from Third Dawn, LBR, etc., and forward.

 

[Phantasmagorian]

It was in the Newsletter #3:




It is truly amazing with which lurid title the OP managed to come up with.
They didn't promise anything. Just having a look, IF something can be done. Yet he tries to make everyone believe, that this is already a done deal.

My first post says, and I quote:

"Note: this GM mentioned no promises can be made, but that they are looking into it."

So how am I trying to make everyone believe it's a done deal? I'm not. The GM told me that they are looking at a few improvements, among which the game size. I explicitly mentioned that the GM said "no promises".

 

[Phantasmagorian]

I want all the old "placeholder" art back and the removal of all the ungodly **** that looks completely out of place they put in our game from Third Dawn, LBR, etc., and forward.

That's not going to happen. We're talking small improvements, not overhauls.

 

[Thrakkar]

So how am I trying to make everyone believe it's a done deal?

Your title says "upgrade in the works". An upgrade is something completely different than an investigation. Official side is just talking of an investigation. Never did they promise anything. And if they come to the conclusion, that they're not going to do it, then there will be no upgrade. So how can there be an upgrade in the works, if they neither started with it nor even know, if they ever start with it?

 

[whiterabbit]

lighten inside ob packs

 

[Aran]

Ban goblins

 

[Phantasmagorian]

Your title says "upgrade in the works". An upgrade is something completely different than an investigation. Official side is just talking of an investigation. Never did they promise anything. And if they come to the conclusion, that they're not going to do it, then there will be no upgrade. So how can there be an upgrade in the works, if they neither started with it nor even know, if they ever start with it?

In my enthusiasm I overstated it in the title, sorry. But obviously I mention the state of affairs as they are in my first post. Sorry for the over-enthusiastic title. My enthusiasm came from the fact that a GM told me this in person, after many insisted the 2D client would not be upgraded in my wildest dreams and the team would never even look at it.

 

[Dot_Warner]

Hyperbole has always been a key ingredient for Stratics.

 

[tanakah]

Filter for object handles.

 

[Tanivar]

... after many insisted the 2D client would not be upgraded in my wildest dreams and the team would never even look at it.

Likely just those EC fans sounding off who want CC users to accept their fate that the CC is being left to die and that we'll have to stoop to the EC eventually like we'd have to keep playing UO without a good UI to use. Luckily the Devs are looking at the true use numbers for the clients and have decided to look into making the larger group of paying customers happier.

Can't eventually have us going elsewhere where the CC has been kept up just so we can continue to enjoy the game we love after all.

 

[Leeda]

I wish I had more choices on resizing my game play window.

I agree. I also wish that when we hit all names that part does not show makes it hard if you dropped something in the spot that is not showing in house all items. When you try to place and it falls in a strange place. I can't find it because only part of house shows all items

 

[Leeda]

Likely just those EC fans sounding off who want CC users to accept their fate that the CC is being left to die and that we'll have to stoop to the EC eventually like we'd have to keep playing UO without a good UI to use. Luckily the Devs are looking at the true use numbers for the clients and have decided to look into making the larger group of paying customers happier.

Can't eventually have us going elsewhere where the CC has been kept up just so we can continue to enjoy the game we love after all.

I can't play EC. I do wish 2d could have a little love too.

 

[Sargon]

Is there any evidence beyond a GM's in-game comments that supports the premise of this thread? If that is the only mention of a 2D client upgrade, I take it with a huge grain of salt.

 

[Tanivar]

Is there any evidence beyond a GM's in-game comments that supports the premise of this thread? If that is the only mention of a 2D client upgrade, I take it with a huge grain of salt.

The upgrade involving a larger play window option happening we know can be done, free shards have done it. All the rest is up in the air since we don't know how badly EA wants to keep it's UO customers.

 

[Theo_GL]

So in this thread I would like to collect everyone's ideas on upgrades they would like in the 2D client. Note: this GM mentioned no promises can be made, but that they are looking into it. And game window size enlargement is one of the things they would add when upgrading the 2D client.

Ok, I'll bite :

* Obviously bigger gameplay window.
* Ability to reorient the overhead map to match the orientation of tmaps so you can match them up.
* Change the color of the pet damage dealt to a target to be different then the damage received. Right now the colors are the same so they are all meaningless. You can't tell if your pet is getting pummeled or the other way around.
* If I have gold in a bag and I buy something, have those items go in the bag. When I buy 20 sewing kits I don't want them scattered all over my pack.
* When you die and you have cursed items in a bag then rez and open your corpse - the cursed items don't go back in the bag where they were when you died (loot bag issue) - this needs fixed.
* Have option to show world text somewhere else like the enhanced client. When you type 'I wish to secure this' and it shows right over your face and when you are standing next to what you want to secure the text is in the way to select an object. Super annoying when house customizing.
* Ability to turn off virtue messages. When killing things at a champ spawn and seeing one zillion ' Your deeds have gained your respect in Minoc' or whatever, its really annoying. They are just a continuous scroll on your screen.
* Obviously the 'dress all' option would be nice after death. I don't care if there is a 5 second delay or whatever, but if I insured the item I'd like it to go back on my body. Hunting under rune books to find that insured ring is awful. Seriously awful. Its the worst part about dying is getting redressed. Yes, clicking your corpse fixes *some* of it but blessed items still don't work right. Fix those too.
* Allow us to hue our main pack. Its too dark on most monitors and black/dark colored items are lost. Seeing blackrock in there is difficult to say the least. I'll go mining for a few hours then have to hunt around my pack to find them all to throw them out. If I could make the background light brown or even white - so much easier.
* Why not make the graphic for a ring a bit bigger? Its one of the harder objects to grab. No need to be as small as a gold piece. Make it the size of the brace.
* Why can't the NPC menu's be alphabetized or have an alphabetic option? I hate scrolling through the whole thing to find what I'm looking for esp at blacksmiths. Yes I buy a lot of weapons from blacksmiths to fill bods and scrolling through to find 20 daggers is annoying. They also should have an option to turn off pics and make them more compact.
* Why does the rune book close each time I drop a rune? If I want to empty a book I should be able to go page to page to select 'drop rune'.
* Why can't we add bods to a bod book when not in our pack just like we can with alacrity, SOT, PowerScroll books?
* Why can't we sort bods alphabetically in the book or automatically sort them alphabetically? Add an 'alphabetic sort' option to the filter page on a book.
* Why does putting a bod in a bod book have to open it every time? Super annoying.
* We need to be able to 'price all' bods in a book for whatever sort is selected. If I sort for 20 normal iron - I want to price them all at 2,000 gold. Please.
* I'd prefer a menu item for dismounting. I don't like double click to dismount. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to loot and accidentally double clicked myself and dismounted.
* Opening corpses and tiling the loot bags across the screen is super annoying. I'd prefer they all open in one spot off my screen and tile down. You have no control and at times they can pop up right over your character.
* In terms of looting I'd like an 'auto open' option. When I kill something in range - I want the pack to open - in a predefined stack/area. When you are mass killing trying to open all the corpses at once from a stack is difficult. I'd like them to open once the first time then I can click them off as I decide I don't want the junk. This would make hunting so much easier to manage.
* Auto loot gold option.
* Ability to 'lock' party bars on your screen that can't be accidentally clicked off. Same for pets.
* Ability to lock spell icons on your screen like the enhanced client that can't be messed up when you accidentally drag them or click them off.

Ok, I"m sure I could come up with 50 more if I put some time into it - but these are just off the top of my head and plenty to get started on....

 

[Uriah Heep]

* Obviously bigger gameplay window.

Goes without saying.

* When you die and you have cursed items in a bag then rez and open your corpse - the cursed items don't go back in the bag where they were when you died (loot bag issue)

So annoying, and unnecessary

* Ability to turn off virtue messages. When killing things at a champ spawn and seeing one zillion ' Your deeds have gained your respect in Minoc' or whatever, its really annoying. They are just a continuous scroll on your screen.

For Pete's sake, yes!!!!!!!!!! I have cancelled citizenship on most of my chars just to quit seeing this. When spawning, no matter what chat ( guild, allied, general, etc) so often we miss a message from someone needing help because it's just a fast blip on the screen then gets scrolled off

* Why does the rune book close each time I drop a rune? If I want to empty a book I should be able to go page to page to select 'drop rune'.

OR maybe, even, a drop all button

* Why can't we add bods to a bod book when not in our pack just like we can with alacrity, SOT, PowerScroll books?

This!

* Why does putting a bod in a bod book have to open it every time? Super annoying.

Very reasonable request.


And from me, how about...once again:

Bod turn in system for points, similar to cleanup...so that all bods are worth doing, even the iron and weapon ones

Not sure how to say it, but make select and attack nearest target macro where you make it ignore pets and friendlies, ala EC (only reason I use it, and then only at spawns)

Harvest all button for plant seeds and resources

 

[Sargon]

The upgrade involving a larger play window option happening we know can be done, free shards have done it. All the rest is up in the air since we don't know how badly EA wants to keep it's UO customers.

Of course it can be done, but the thread title of "2D CLIENT UPGRADE IN THE WORKS" implies that something is actually being worked on. As far as I know, there isn't official confirmation of any 2D client upgrades, so this whole thread is misleading at best.