the best fighting I had in uo was when they got rid of factions. so much fun to kill blues on my red and killing reds on my blue. now they have vvv. lame, there are no reds to kill and get justice. blue vvv people come and raid, u defend and get many murder counts while the vvv can just eat a royal pardon over and over. it is best to just leave now when raided. so weak I cant believe what has happened and I just get silence. u got people farming points by leaving there char in town hidden, they kill their friends char or other account to get points for leaderboard. they kill red in house for justice. I think to myself why do we even need faction/ vvv, if u really like pvp, there is no need to get free gear that is better then what u can normally get. do u remember all the complaining about no one to kill in fel. people stopped going because many couldn't compete. now armor is good and east to get, but I end up with so many murder counts. devs wont listen to make them one time use so pvp is dead to me now.