I got a warning for my assumed "troll post" , you got a Like, and by The Man
As to the wiki, I think it's a good idea, as long as it doesn't end up being 1 persons input on everything UO.
Yeah, because nobody at UOGuide or UO Forums would have ever cut and pasted from Stratics in the past.
I'm not talking UOForums - more talking about UOHomeDecor where no, I haven't C&Ped from Stratics.
I agree completely that we need a variety of people adding material.
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Bing Maps.
This pretty well sums up my thoughts on the matter. Startics is awesome for the forums and a couple of other resources and UOGuide is the go-to wiki style knowledge base, it just needs more updating. I think the pie-in-the-sky best case scenario is Broadsword providing resources to merge UOGuide into a semi-official Stratics wiki and fill it out with playguides and official input for things like game mechanic formulas and specific details.
Agreed. When I returned to UO a few years back I did all my main research using UOGuide and then posted any questions on Stratics.
It is, and one I'd encourage you to make in the Suggestions/Ideas forum http://stratics.com/forums/stratics-suggestions-and-ideas.1008/ I will say it has been looked at, there just isn't a plugin or addon for Xenforo available at the moment. But making a post there is a good way to keep it on our minds.
That will depend on community involvement... But the response so far seems to indicate that plenty of people are willing to help. I hope everyone would participate to create a robust and well thought out database.I got a warning for my assumed "troll post" , you got a Like, and by The Man
The author of the add-on we are considering is building an importer, but it is not ready yet. In the meantime it would probably be manual entry or copying and updating Stratics stuff. Stratics could screen for copied content from uoguides.
Moderated submissions only works if there's someone actively paying attention to approving it, and without any favoritism.
That's a really cool idea.Might be interesting if the information in the wiki is presented by a game character talking to someone he's teaching to do something in as much of an in-character fashion as possible. It would need to include some OOC moments, but could be done. Might help the reader slip into the game world their about to travel, instead of just being a page of information presented to them.
If you know of a single article on UOGuide that has been taken from Stratics I would like to see it.
This is a fantastic idea. I would love see some articles.Might be interesting if the information in the wiki is presented by a game character talking to someone he's teaching to do something in as much of an in-character fashion as possible. It would need to include some OOC moments, but could be done. Might help the reader slip into the game world their about to travel, instead of just being a page of information presented to them.
I like the idea too. I just think this has been done not so well in the past. We've had very well written stories and it's a lot harder to keep up with the data as it changes if it's written like a story. Especially for wiki sites that have more than one contributor on a page. What I'd like to see is each page maybe have a SHORT flavor introduction not going into the mechanics or the how-to train type things and then get into the mechanics. When you do these in character stories it leads to multiple pages on the same topic.
I'm with you. Why are we reinventing the wheel?I love Wiki based websites. They are easy to use and navigate, easy to add stuff, look "clean" (no dark backgrounds
However why bother when there is UOGuide already there which has a wealth of information already and is already setup and established?
Surely making a "stratics wiki" would mean somebody basically copying all the information already on UOGuide and then adding the more up to date stuff?
I know UOGuide seems to have slipped a bit. I mean not updated as much as it used to be (sorry if this is incorrect) its just my passing observation.
Can't Stratics buy UOGuide or maybe work along side with them? that would make far more sense. Just add to information that is already there.
I understand wanting to have a Stratics own product as you would have full control over it. This makes sense to me. It just seems like a lot of hard work when there is already a product that is out there.
Kinda makes me think about when Apple released Apple Maps when there was already Google maps out there. Which one do you use?
I like UOGuide, but new players can't register. I've tried multiple times and there are a lot of mistakes on the website it won't allow you to correct. The difference between Wowhead and UOGuide is huge. And the game will definitely be open in 5 years. It was never meant to have more than 20k players and 10% of that on each shard. It will ALWAYS turn a profit so why drop it?
I can't speak for UOGUIDE but the amount of information it has would take a LONG time to replicate. Unless you cut and paste then what's the point?
Thankfully, the world has people in it that aren't so negative and things can get done for the betterment of the world or for UO in this case.
You could cut and paste from the old Stratics Guides and update those in the process...
It isn't negativity. I like to rationalize what I devote my time to. Redundancy isn't one of them.
Well man, my question would be why would this go to a wiki and not the current statics website?
The benefit of the wiki would be that more people could contribute to keep things up to date. We have a limited number of volunteers on staff. Also, the older portions of Stratics are extremely burdensome to update because they are not accessible using a content management system. They are pieced together with html and php.
As a former staffer who used the old system - I have to say Ron Bron is right. While it could be possible to import everything from the old site into the current wordpress, it would be time consuming too with limited staff.
I get it, but I'm thinking we will just go in circles on this.
I just registered a new account and it worked fine. I have not gotten any reports about issues signing up for an account on UOGuide.
Well, I'll be durned. It worked.
I swear I really did try and even emailed and never got responses.
The good thing about this add-on is that you edit the articles just like you edit a forum post. No special coding knowledge necessary. It users a simple text editor and normal bbcode. So unless you are trying to build complicated format/templates, technical skill should not be an issue. We could probably build a couple templates for people to fill in as well.
Well I'd be happy to help with whatever knowledge I have. I don't know how good I am at it. We'll see.
That's the beauty of a wiki, everyone can contribute the knowledge they have an eventually you create something magnificent. I like to think of them as being similar to the old tradition of Quilting Circles, everyone has their section they work on and in the end you create a finished piece.
The wonderful days of programming in machine language, before all the futuristic fancy stuff came along.
The wonderful days of programming in machine language, before all the futuristic fancy stuff came along.
; Uses S-C Assembler variant.
; .or is origin
; .as is ASCII String
; .hs is Hex String
.or $300
main ldy #$00
.1 lda str,y
beq .2
jsr $fded ; ROM routine, COUT, y is preserved
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bne .1
.2 rts
str .as "HELLO WORLD"
.hs 0D00