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Third floor down.....that dungeon is the worse part of the quest
Those keys unlock the cabinet in the centre of each room....the cabinet is surrounded by steal barrels so you have to clear a complete path around the cabinet. Inside the cabinet you will find a piece of a machine that is found on the next level... Put the pieces into the machine and it will raise the cover off the storage hold.....drop into the hold to battle the shadow lord.....best loot in the game.
IF (and that is a big IF) you can beat him.
That fight is really tough. They hit hard and the wisps can wreak doom upon you.
Well in theory a 4/6 120 chiv paladin can spam holy light to resolve the wisp issues when they arrive.
I killed it solo from the first attempt. I died few times... mostly due to lag. RS would be handy...
It seems LL doesn't work on it?
Can I assume it was your paladin template?
Also corwin or anyone I would love to see a video of that fight...
They are shadow lords....so no I don't think they have a slayer....LL may not work....I know VE does
I distinctly remember HLL working there, at least against the shadow lord.
I was using 120 chiv and 120 bushido, with him honoured. I could keep up with him using AI most of the time, but would die every time the shadow wisps spawned.
Been a while since I last been there. I will give it a try again soon.
I was using 120 chiv and 120 bushido, with him honoured. I could keep up with him using AI most of the time, but would die every time the shadow wisps spawned.
Been a while since I last been there. I will give it a try again soon.
if I may suggest...try max karma and spam holy light with 4/6 casting?
I would really like to see any video of the shadowlord fight ( or exodus as well) before i start a solo attempt just to get half an idea what it is that makes em so bad. If its only necro casting vs 0 resist, well that can be countered by gameplay.
But if corwin did beat him first try, congrats.
But if corwin did beat him first try, congrats.
No. It was my Melee Archer.
I have no Paladin at the moment because I rebuilt it to Wraith for tests.
I didn't record video... it was my first attempt... and I was pretty lagged.Also corwin or anyone I would love to see a video of that fight...
Well, I made video... 1 hour 15 minutes... 158 Gb ... 4 death... and it's only 55% of the fight (from 40k to 90k damage done)...
(I ran out of potions... had 20 str/dex... made trip to my house and started video when returned there...)
I am going to try Wraith but I don't sure Curse Weapon leach HP from Shadow Lord
(I ran out of potions... had 20 str/dex... made trip to my house and started video when returned there...)
I am going to try Wraith but I don't sure Curse Weapon leach HP from Shadow Lord
Can you still blow them up with the Armageddon spell?
You don't want to do that....they have the best loot in the game. if I remember that spell correctly....there is no corpse after
if I remember that spell correctly....there is no corpse afterBeen running my characters through the entrance quest today. I noticed it takes the full effect of Discord, though not sure if that's just because I have 4x on at the moment.
we found the same thing
Singing and drinking?
Yes, while the barbarian do the bulk work on the quest to gain them access to the area.
Seemed generally unfriendly towards summons hitting them over 80. Hit my Necro/Mage for 50. Teleports players to his location as a counter attack for damage. Thinking Ninja tbh.
Are the shadowlords TLF? Necro? I didn't notice.
Coming back to topic about my Paladin. Updated spreadsheet with new weapons. For non slayer encounters i have made 100HML weapons to keep chain AI (with DF + CW + AI it's doable) I also made 100HML Scimitar for Double Strike encounters. But to use Double Strike i also need CW. Casting DF every 23 sec, CW every 11 sec and keep spaming AI seems bit problematic. So i reached the point where i will replace jewelry and go tor FC / FCR (2/5 will be enough i think). Searching for ring at moment http://stratics.com/community/threads/prized-not-imbued-ring-paying-well.344561/ What's interesting with next update i may left only 3 Brittle Legendary items on suit + crafted Weapons. Rest can last forever. It's the matter of taste but i wanted to point out this.
Its not possible to use PoF on prized jewelry. Since prized comes with durability also, its same as imbued and will not live forever.
But good idea going 2/6 chiv, i found that pretty sick when combined with protection ( it stays 2/6 after protection ) and healing. Did like it better then 4/6 without protection.
I thought protection dropped fast casting by -2....thereby making 2/6 turn into 0/6 with protection on?
Protection also lowers Resist Spells when using it, and Physical resist by 14 (humans), 15 (non humans).
Will try protection thing i got 86 Phisical Resisting so it's overcapped now and 0 Resisting Spells and according to stratics it wont go below 0. Thanks for pointing it out, at last something to test out. About Prized jewelry i didn't know it cannot be POFed
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As to me there are two good combo:
2/6, protection, no resisting spells, (Healing recommended)
4/6, no protection, resisting spells, (can go without Healing)
For 'non-breakable' spells like DF and CW if you can't get both FC and FCR then FCR is better than FC because 3 FCR saves you 0.75 sec and 1 FC saves you 0.25 sec
2/6, protection, no resisting spells, (Healing recommended)
4/6, no protection, resisting spells, (can go without Healing)
For 'non-breakable' spells like DF and CW if you can't get both FC and FCR then FCR is better than FC because 3 FCR saves you 0.75 sec and 1 FC saves you 0.25 sec
if you dont have 2FC the prot will slow you instead of making it better right?
my question would be if its worth sacrificing around 20 stats for casting
my question would be if its worth sacrificing around 20 stats for casting
protection doesn't decrease your casting speed
protection decreases your "faster casting" cap by 2
(so if you get max FC or max-1 FC it indirectly decrease your casting speed)
protection decreases your FC cap from 4 to 2 for Chivalry (and from 2 to 0 for Magery)
so if you have less than 3 FC protection doesn't affect your FC for Chivalry
protection decreases your "faster casting" cap by 2
(so if you get max FC or max-1 FC it indirectly decrease your casting speed)
protection decreases your FC cap from 4 to 2 for Chivalry (and from 2 to 0 for Magery)
so if you have less than 3 FC protection doesn't affect your FC for Chivalry
I used some average jewelry set and got 2/3 now and tried Protection. I must admit this is so damn epic found. I had 86 Physical Resistance so -15 points was no big deal, 0 Resisting Spells so it doesn't affect template at all. Whats the greatest thing and main purpose of Protection is that Remove Curse wont be ever interrupted. Now Apples will be second option for removing curses not the main one (no more apple miss and 30 sec delay!) Before it was almost not possible to use Remove Curse in the middle of fight, so spell was kinda useless. Also it's pretty cool that Protection can be casted with 0 magery (you can use magery book with some magery skill bonus on it to increase cast chance) and it will last until die/uncast it.
This configuration is pretty neat, but i'm not sure if i will manage to get so much FCR on jewelry:
> 2/6, protection, no resisting spells, (Healing recommended)
Overall i will say it like that:
if u use 0 RS, got 85 Physical Resistance, not using more then 2 FC you should cast protection. There are no negatives from doing that.
This configuration is pretty neat, but i'm not sure if i will manage to get so much FCR on jewelry:
> 2/6, protection, no resisting spells, (Healing recommended)
Overall i will say it like that:
if u use 0 RS, got 85 Physical Resistance, not using more then 2 FC you should cast protection. There are no negatives from doing that.
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I use special jewels to cast Protection. Each jewel has:
1. 20 LRC. This allows me to cast Protection (as well as VE/Wraith) without reagents (with 40 LRC you have 40% chance to get free casting).
2. 15 Magery. Optional. This allows me to cast Protection without equipping +Magery spellbook. I also can cast Teleport. Sometimes you need it.
3. 10-15 Necro. Optional. If I have low necro and want to cast Wraith with less fizzles.
4. 3-4 MR. So I can equip them when I need to restore mana faster.
5. 25 EP. Optional. If I'm going to use those jewels to drink potions as well.
As far as i tested i had no problem casting it using Book with +12 skill on it and keep some regents with me. Overall i plan on going with it all the time so i don't need to cast it again until my char dies.
Yesterday i did Shadowlord with friend. It was hard battle but this time i have not so much problems with dying there. It's all thanks to spaming Remove Curse during battle. I survived it with 0 Resisting Spells. This is really great. FC/FCR also helped with fast casting / uncasting EOO when wisps arrived.
Btw. i updated first post with new template Spreadsheet and some informations. Still searching for better ring with 3 FCR.
Yesterday i did Shadowlord with friend. It was hard battle but this time i have not so much problems with dying there. It's all thanks to spaming Remove Curse during battle. I survived it with 0 Resisting Spells. This is really great. FC/FCR also helped with fast casting / uncasting EOO when wisps arrived.
Btw. i updated first post with new template Spreadsheet and some informations. Still searching for better ring with 3 FCR.
hi,
inspired by Hirikawa (and with his permission to post details) i followed his example and build a paladin, i used also platemail for stam loss protection and chivaly´s Divine Fury to get maximum bonus to HCI DI and SSI, i do not use spell protection but i kept 1 slot on the ring free for possible FCR3 or FC1. my goal was to run with 55SSI to wield Longswords with 1.25s max swing.
on the weapons i use the following properties:
Hit Mana Leech: 100
Hit Life Leech: 70
Hit Stamina Leech: 30
Hit Lower Attack: 30
Super Slayer
weapons for the "special" enemies i need to build but i will add a hit spell instead of the slayer
here are some details over the suit:
@hirikawa thank you for the hours of nice chatting over pro and contra of suits.
greetings
inspired by Hirikawa (and with his permission to post details) i followed his example and build a paladin, i used also platemail for stam loss protection and chivaly´s Divine Fury to get maximum bonus to HCI DI and SSI, i do not use spell protection but i kept 1 slot on the ring free for possible FCR3 or FC1. my goal was to run with 55SSI to wield Longswords with 1.25s max swing.
on the weapons i use the following properties:
Hit Mana Leech: 100
Hit Life Leech: 70
Hit Stamina Leech: 30
Hit Lower Attack: 30
Super Slayer
weapons for the "special" enemies i need to build but i will add a hit spell instead of the slayer
here are some details over the suit:
@hirikawa thank you for the hours of nice chatting over pro and contra of suits.
greetings
Pretty amazing, more advanced version of this template. More stat points, Damage Eater, some RPD, SSI which allows Longsword. Congrats making this amazing suit and thanks for sharing.
Some new pics, Rend solo: This one wasn't easy he hits me badly.
Shadowlord with friends:
Some new pics, Rend solo: This one wasn't easy he hits me badly.
Shadowlord with friends:
Indeed. I should probably not half-arse my posts from work.
I guess I should phrase the question as: would 70 HML on the longsword give you enough leeching to keep your mana full-enough when you have slayer.
My guess is yes... longsword should average ~190 damage. HML does [0-.4]*HML avg leech =. 2 * .7 * 190 = 26.6 or 26/7
With 45 LMC each chained AI should cost 27 mana.
With 110 mana, that gives a nice buffer so that the variance in the 0-40 range for HML should work out pretty well.
I guess I should phrase the question as: would 70 HML on the longsword give you enough leeching to keep your mana full-enough when you have slayer.
My guess is yes... longsword should average ~190 damage. HML does [0-.4]*HML avg leech =. 2 * .7 * 190 = 26.6 or 26/7
With 45 LMC each chained AI should cost 27 mana.
With 110 mana, that gives a nice buffer so that the variance in the 0-40 range for HML should work out pretty well.