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A sad day for me.

Dixie chessy/legends

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@Mesanna confirmed it at the napa M & G last night. 5 10 15 hours is the way its going to be. With that, ill be slowly walking away from the game. Its been fun all, Thanks for the good times.

*waves*
right there with ya buddy, as you know every bit of my stuff is gone. accts closed and im done. So thanks Mesanna for ruining yet another thing in game that people loved doing maybe when it costs uo enough players they will find someone who can actually keep this game running smooth. till then, done on uo, done on these forums and done on icq..... if ya need me for anything look me up on facebook
 

Picus at the office

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right there with ya buddy, as you know every bit of my stuff is gone. accts closed and im done. So thanks Mesanna for ruining yet another thing in game that people loved doing maybe when it costs uo enough players they will find someone who can actually keep this game running smooth. till then, done on uo, done on these forums and done on icq..... if ya need me for anything look me up on facebook
You should have played PvP the day before and after the great faction nerf, the sunshine that Mesanna brought to the game would have turned a different shade sooner.
 

Uriah Heep

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I hate that VvV crap, just from a vendor point of view. I was selling 2-3 pardons a week, since VvV I have sold a total of one. Coincidence? I highly doubt it. Was selling all the phasing orbs I could get, they introduced the turnin talismans, boom, that market died. No new players means the sales of pinks and blues are dropping off to nothing. Some were moaning in chat the other day on Atlantic, that PSs are worth very little anymore, unless they are magery lol. Now that IDOCs have been handed to the select few to do, the holiday stuff and rares will be collected and sold by them, with them cornering the market even more than now.

Call me Negative Nancy, but I'm just not a believer anymore.
 

drcossack

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I hate that VvV crap, just from a vendor point of view. I was selling 2-3 pardons a week, since VvV I have sold a total of one. Coincidence? I highly doubt it. Was selling all the phasing orbs I could get, they introduced the turnin talismans, boom, that market died. No new players means the sales of pinks and blues are dropping off to nothing. Some were moaning in chat the other day on Atlantic, that PSs are worth very little anymore, unless they are magery lol. Now that IDOCs have been handed to the select few to do, the holiday stuff and rares will be collected and sold by them, with them cornering the market even more than now.

Call me Negative Nancy, but I'm just not a believer anymore.
I hate it too. The 10.0 pinks are nice, but I always get them in skills I will NEVER use, like Forensic Eval, Begging, etc. When I do get enough for one, I just claim it, see what it is, and, more often than not, into the trash it goes. Pardons? On LS, I've seen them go as low as 100k.

As far as IDOCs, most of them are of no interest to me. On Tuesday, a castle fell. I wasn't there when it dropped, but even if I were, I would be more interested in the fight (which is what I was doing before I logged)
 

Olahorand

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Well, Mesannas statement shows really how deep the level of customer acceptance went in this game.
Done without need.

Too long final stage complaint - ignored.
Coowners/Friends list clearance leading to their stuff in the house being stolen complaint - ignored.
Grubbers not functional - gone worse ... they even lose loot.
Made eventually worse: IDOCs not returned to the player if he reactivates two hours or less before the house is falling. (Eventually, since the last two hours always were a risky time to see autorenewal kick in. But if this means they also cannot transfer the house in that stage ...

Seems like a way to drive more paying customers away faster.
With me you succeeded ... my credit card on 5 permanent accounts expires next month, therefore no automatic renewal anymore.
Will consider case by case to reactivate them, or not.
3 more houses are going to be demolished as promised before the accounts expire so that these accounts never get renewed as well.

*Salute*
Olahorand
 

MalagAste

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Well, Mesannas statement shows really how deep the level of customer acceptance went in this game.
Done without need.

Too long final stage complaint - ignored.
Coowners/Friends list clearance leading to their stuff in the house being stolen complaint - ignored.
Grubbers not functional - gone worse ... they even lose loot.
Made eventually worse: IDOCs not returned to the player if he reactivates two hours or less before the house is falling. (Eventually, since the last two hours always were a risky time to see autorenewal kick in. But if this means they also cannot transfer the house in that stage ...

Seems like a way to drive more paying customers away faster.
With me you succeeded ... my credit card on 5 permanent accounts expires next month, therefore no automatic renewal anymore.
Will consider case by case to reactivate them, or not.
3 more houses are going to be demolished as promised before the accounts expire so that these accounts never get renewed as well.

*Salute*
Olahorand
I know the feeling with all the issues I've been having with the EC and the fact that I "live" out of other peoples houses on other shards and therefore am really SoL when it comes to these IDOC changes as I won't even be able to go in and get my things if the person quits paying the account... F*** it... I have no way of knowing they aren't paying... even if they get in Vent or on ICQ and I talk to them doesn't mean they are paying their accounts. My "first" and only indication that they are quitting or did quit is likely going to be me going and logging in to find myself out on the street and my things in hock.

But whatever. Another blow to community and friendships in-game and another plate delivered to the "rares" community and greedy SoB's. Sure makes me want to stick around some more.... NOT.
 

The Craftsman

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Congratulations @Mesanna ... an almighty f*** up yet again.

Im sure that somewhere in your job description it says that your objective is to drive UO into the ground and end it forever. You are doing a great job and this latest debacle sheds even more players.

I hope they are paying you handsomely in cakes.
 

Kojak

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I miss the UO.com forums - when they were open, all these whiners used to whine over there - then they closed them and they all came back here to whine - sux

*insert I don't like this change here* *and follow with I'm closing all my 40+ accounts here*
*rinse* *repeat*

(then they come back 5 months later because other games suck by comparison - that's the funniest part - hehe)
 

Christina Kardos

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Damn people stop complaining all the time! Half the posts on uo hall are complaints...!


I dont like this, I dont like the other... hell! Go play another game! You will be back in 6 months.

You know which group of people quiting make me sad? The ones that quit without saying a thing - without posting a rage quit thread. Those people may never come back... the rest of us lets be honest... we arent going anywhere.
 

GarthGrey

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You could probably squeeze in a full time job and still watch those houses for 7 hrs instead . :p
 

Pandora_CoD

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They should make it 2/4/6. If that's more reasonable for everyone, then they should hear that out.
 

MalagAste

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You could always, I dunno... Find pleasure in killing other players. :D
This is only fun if you have a good enough computer and connection to actually have a hope in hades of actually killing someone other than the AFK scripter.

Also only fun if the person you are fighting isn't using any hacks or cheats and the field is "fair" and you have decent equipment... etc...

Otherwise its a wasted effort of futility that will likely result in frustration and poor attitude in gen chat.

Or here's something fun to do!..... Make a stealth Archer... and then go around stealthing finding other folk in Fel doing spawns.... and then announce who's doing what where in Gen Chat..... sit back and wait for the fight to begin... and pick off those who are trying to get away... don't matter what side they are on or guild they are in... just pick off anyone who's near death. :devil:
 

Pandora_CoD

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Or here's something fun to do!..... Make a stealth Archer... and then go around stealthing finding other folk in Fel doing spawns.... and then announce who's doing what where in Gen Chat..... sit back and wait for the fight to begin... and pick off those who are trying to get away... don't matter what side they are on or guild they are in... just pick off anyone who's near death. :devil:
Sooooo evil, my dear friend. Soooo evil. :D
 

Spock's Beard

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The current dev team are painfully uninformed when it comes to the game. They can tell us they all totally play it, but when I look at wasted systems like Refinement or the Honesty Virtue, the inept butchery they made of Factions, and some of the absolute howlers that have come out of their mouths at these meet & greets, I damn well know they don't.
 

Peekay

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This is only fun if you have a good enough computer and connection to actually have a hope in hades of actually killing someone other than the AFK scripter.

Also only fun if the person you are fighting isn't using any hacks or cheats and the field is "fair" and you have decent equipment... etc...

Otherwise its a wasted effort of futility that will likely result in frustration and poor attitude in gen chat.

Or here's something fun to do!..... Make a stealth Archer... and then go around stealthing finding other folk in Fel doing spawns.... and then announce who's doing what where in Gen Chat..... sit back and wait for the fight to begin... and pick off those who are trying to get away... don't matter what side they are on or guild they are in... just pick off anyone who's near death. :devil:
All I hear there is a lot of crying and whining and excuses for not doing something that doesn't have a 1500000% chance of success for your efforts. The thrill of pvp comes from the fact that you don't always win, but you can always give it your best shot. Win some, lose some.
 

MalagAste

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All I hear there is a lot of crying and whining and excuses for not doing something that doesn't have a 1500000% chance of success for your efforts. The thrill of pvp comes from the fact that you don't always win, but you can always give it your best shot. Win some, lose some.
Thrill for me of PvP is fighting a battle that is.... balanced... win or lose.

I don't find fighting 10 vs 1 fun... don't find getting Ganked fun... Don't find the Para Gank Squad fun... Don't find it fun to be trying to get away from someone that can jump 3 or 4 screens to your 1... Also don't find it fun to get up against someone that can use the bokuto with the paralyze every hit till your dead...

I do enjoy a fair fight... Evenly matched battles are fun... even some where you are outnumbered but have to use your wits and skills to overcome the numbers ... that's fun... 1vs1 can be fun...

Being sneaky and getting in a good shot can be fun.
 

Peekay

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Thrill for me of PvP is fighting a battle that is.... balanced... win or lose.

I don't find fighting 10 vs 1 fun... don't find getting Ganked fun... Don't find the Para Gank Squad fun... Don't find it fun to be trying to get away from someone that can jump 3 or 4 screens to your 1... Also don't find it fun to get up against someone that can use the bokuto with the paralyze every hit till your dead...

I do enjoy a fair fight... Evenly matched battles are fun... even some where you are outnumbered but have to use your wits and skills to overcome the numbers ... that's fun... 1vs1 can be fun...
Lol, how naive you are.
 

Giggles

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Thrill for me of PvP is fighting a battle that is.... balanced... win or lose.

I don't find fighting 10 vs 1 fun... don't find getting Ganked fun... Don't find the Para Gank Squad fun... Don't find it fun to be trying to get away from someone that can jump 3 or 4 screens to your 1... Also don't find it fun to get up against someone that can use the bokuto with the paralyze every hit till your dead...

I do enjoy a fair fight... Evenly matched battles are fun... even some where you are outnumbered but have to use your wits and skills to overcome the numbers ... that's fun... 1vs1 can be fun...

Being sneaky and getting in a good shot can be fun.
Fighting 10v1 is fun to me, I have done it several times in the past. I run the EC with a solid connection and not many people can outrun me. Its about the challenge, not a chance of success. Obviously I'm not going to "win" fighting 10 people, but I can keep them on their toes and maybe get a couple kills.
I laugh when people say "HAHAHAH GIGGLES WE GOT THE SCROLLS!!" Ok cool, I wasn't here for the scrolls lol. Pvp is for the people who wish to do more then craft and "all kill" their way through the game. Its the most rewarding part of the game. I have made so many friends over the years, and even befriended people I fight against. Some people look at it like you do. But I have to agree with Peekay, I think it falls along the lines of not getting that easy win or instant gratification. So what if you lose or die? If you're doing it right you get back up and try again.
 

MalagAste

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Fighting 10v1 is fun to me, I have done it several times in the past. I run the EC with a solid connection and not many people can outrun me. Its about the challenge, not a chance of success. Obviously I'm not going to "win" fighting 10 people, but I can keep them on their toes and maybe get a couple kills.
I laugh when people say "HAHAHAH GIGGLES WE GOT THE SCROLLS!!" Ok cool, I wasn't here for the scrolls lol. Pvp is for the people who wish to do more then craft and "all kill" their way through the game. Its the most rewarding part of the game. I have made so many friends over the years, and even befriended people I fight against. Some people look at it like you do. But I have to agree with Peekay, I think it falls along the lines of not getting that easy win or instant gratification. So what if you lose or die? If you're doing it right you get back up and try again.
Losing and dying are not an issue I do that plenty. I just don't like cheaters who can't seem to play by the rules. IMO if you have to use cheats and hacks to play and win then you aren't winning your just another loser. It takes the fun out of the game for me.
 

Giggles

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Losing and dying are not an issue I do that plenty. I just don't like cheaters who can't seem to play by the rules. IMO if you have to use cheats and hacks to play and win then you aren't winning your just another loser. It takes the fun out of the game for me.
Back to the age old comment about cheats ruining pvp. I guess theres two types of people, people who complain and do nothing. Or people who play and find ways to beat the cheaters and use their cheats against them. Cheaters are everywhere doing every aspect of every game. How can you enjoy the game at all if that is your mentality?
 

Peekay

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Back to the age old comment about cheats ruining pvp. I guess theres two types of people, people who complain and do nothing. Or people who play and find ways to beat the cheaters and use their cheats against them. Cheaters are everywhere doing every aspect of every game. How can you enjoy the game at all if that is your mentality?
I miss fighting DFA on Lake Austin years back... Walk into the middle of them all and say "You cannot move!" and watch their trapped boxes just start blowing up nonstop.
 
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