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Napa Meet and Greet Summary

Lord Taliesin

Seasoned Veteran
Stratics Veteran
UNLEASHED
I don't have a full transcript but I thought I'd post some of the highlights of last night's meeting with the Dev team.

-Fey Slayer will be added to imbuing
-IDOCs are staying at 5,10,15 hours with the ability to get your house back as long as you reactivate an account with greater than two hours until it falls. (not news but Mesanna confirmed no more changes, and she won't help get houses back if you wait too long after these new changes)
-Haven teleport bug is fixed and awaiting publish
-Small publish coming for Easter
-Gold revamp, pet revamp, completion of the Virtue system and new clothing still in the works
-Mesanna mentioned late June/early July for major publish, it wasn't clear if she was talking about Pub 90 or the new expansion or if those are the same thing.
-Kyronix thinks Hot Air Balloons are "a fantastic idea!" Mesanna's wrath was swift at their mention.
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-Fugly Casanova and Bob Ross challenged the devs to a 2x2 duel, Mesanna declined saying that she would just cheat.
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MalagAste

Belaern d'Zhaunil
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Stratics Legend
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Campaign Supporter
I still think they should allow the imbuing of Crafted Spellbooks.

A warrior can get anything they want put on their weapons... Throwers, macers, fencers, swords, and archers. Why can't mages?

Instead we have to rely on an extremely antiquated system to blow through resources that are next to impossible to get.... I can do 100 Lady M runs and not get enough Taint to make ONE scrappers. I can spend 16 hours stealing in the Exodus dungeon area trying to get keys and stuff and not get enough Taint to make a Scrappers.

And then in the Off chance you come up with enough ingredients to actually CRAFT a Scrappers the chances of you getting a "slayer" are slim to none. I've made 100's of them... and I've gotten maybe 2 slayers and even then it's something totally stupid like a water elemental slayer or a lizardman slayer.

Actually getting a "useful" slayer is nearly impossible.... top that off with the fact that Mages can't even get the slayer benefit of a Talisman and you see why we need to be able to IMBUE the freaking things.

And I heard the "argument" that Mesanna gave about if they made it something you could "Imbue" then it would put Inscribers out of business... THAT is a lie! If anything it would make it useful again because everyone would want a ton of the plain ones to imbue. Also you can't overpower them... There are "caps" on things. It wouldn't make the skill any less viable than Blacksmithing or Trailoring. You still need THOSE skills to make the base items to imbue. So you would still need Inscription to make the base item to imbue. If anything it would give the skill a boon.

If I could imbue a regular spellbook that would be fine too... But cut mages some slack and throw them a bone would ya?
 

Keith of Sonoma

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I still think they should allow the imbuing of Crafted Spellbooks.

A warrior can get anything they want put on their weapons... Throwers, macers, fencers, swords, and archers. Why can't mages?

Instead we have to rely on an extremely antiquated system to blow through resources that are next to impossible to get.... I can do 100 Lady M runs and not get enough Taint to make ONE scrappers. I can spend 16 hours stealing in the Exodus dungeon area trying to get keys and stuff and not get enough Taint to make a Scrappers.

And then in the Off chance you come up with enough ingredients to actually CRAFT a Scrappers the chances of you getting a "slayer" are slim to none. I've made 100's of them... and I've gotten maybe 2 slayers and even then it's something totally stupid like a water elemental slayer or a lizardman slayer.

Actually getting a "useful" slayer is nearly impossible.... top that off with the fact that Mages can't even get the slayer benefit of a Talisman and you see why we need to be able to IMBUE the freaking things.

And I heard the "argument" that Mesanna gave about if they made it something you could "Imbue" then it would put Inscribers out of business... THAT is a lie! If anything it would make it useful again because everyone would want a ton of the plain ones to imbue. Also you can't overpower them... There are "caps" on things. It wouldn't make the skill any less viable than Blacksmithing or Trailoring. You still need THOSE skills to make the base items to imbue. So you would still need Inscription to make the base item to imbue. If anything it would give the skill a boon.

If I could imbue a regular spellbook that would be fine too... But cut mages some slack and throw them a bone would ya?
I LOVE that idea. I paid A LOT of gold for my dragon slayer scrapper. Probably upwards of 1000 times what a dragon slayer weapon costs! Not 3 weeks after which, I crafted my first (and so far only) super slayer scrapper, a reptile of course. ROFL
 

BeaIank

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Campaign Supporter
I wouldn't go as far as allowing imbuing of books, since they last forever.
But I would be for a turn in reward, void pool or some other system reward in the form of a special scribe pen with limited uses that assures you would roll a slayer on your book.
 

Keith of Sonoma

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I wouldn't go as far as allowing imbuing of books, since they last forever.
But I would be for a turn in reward, void pool or some other system reward in the form of a special scribe pen with limited uses that assures you would roll a slayer on your book.
Not a bad idea!
 

MalagAste

Belaern d'Zhaunil
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I wouldn't go as far as allowing imbuing of books, since they last forever.
But I would be for a turn in reward, void pool or some other system reward in the form of a special scribe pen with limited uses that assures you would roll a slayer on your book.
How would that be fair? Listen if you want to put durability on books then so be it... but there has to be some way to get a freaking slayer you NEED and want by choice like any warrior can. I don't want to go and have to gather 8000 taint just to get a useful scrappers that's not some stinking stupid snow elemental slayer and might actually be "useful".
 

Deraj

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Here is the transcript in all its bizarre glory. There was a problem at the beginning with the crystals and I was unable to hear Mesanna's initial responses.

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: [Crystal] EM Chance says: yes
: [Crystal] Kyronix says: Hello!
: [Crystal] Watcher says: ack
: [Crystal] Watcher says: welcome to Napa
: [Crystal] Watcher says: nauseated from moving that fast
: [Crystal] Watcher says: thank yoou for coming
: [Crystal] Watcher says: my conserns are 2 points
: [Crystal] Watcher says: one, the IDOC times of up to 15 hours is extremely long, unhealthy..can lead to DVT and pulmonar
: [Crystal] Watcher says: pulmonay embolisms
: [Crystal] Watcher says: soooo please consider a reasonable max time of say 5 to 7 hours?
: [Crystal] Watcher says: it also benefits the scripters, not reg fold
: [Crystal] Watcher says: folk
: [Crystal] Watcher says: agreed
: [Crystal] Watcher says: i agree with the wipe of house list, just not the advantage to scripters who can monitor 24/7
: [Crystal] EM Chance says: crystal not working they cant see text
: [Crystal] Watcher says: i know you have helped a friend on napa regain a house, ty
: [Crystal] Watcher says: another issue
: [Crystal] Watcher says: is
Mesanna: wait
Mesanna: I want to state why
Mesanna: I checked and since she renewed her account on the line
Mesanna: I gave her the house back because I sided with the player
Mesanna: thats why she got that house back
Mesanna: and then dropped it!
Mesanna: go ahead
Mesanna: your next point =)
Watcher: what has ahppened to many old items in the counselor's house in ilshenar?
Mesanna: we have not touched that house
Watcher: they were on display in the past, and nowhere to be seen now
Watcher: the house has been redecorated inside
Mesanna: I have not clue it would take a GM to get those items
Mesanna: we have not touched the house
Mesanna: here on Napa?
Watcher: yes
Mesanna: sorry this is news to me
Watcher: okay just a bit leery of where our history has gone
Mesanna: wait
Mesanna: where did you say this house is
Watcher: in ilshenar
Mesanna: I am not aware of a house there
Mesanna: so beats me
Watcher: way west of luna
Mesanna: are you sure?
Watcher: oops that is malas
Watcher: not ilshenar
Mesanna: OK
Mesanna: wow
Mesanna: the EM has that house
Mesanna: I will look into it
Watcher: ty
Mesanna: thats why I put them there
Mesanna: for the items to be displayed
Watcher: yay
Mesanna: thanks for the heads up
Mesanna: anything else?
Watcher: that is fine
Watcher: thank you
Watcher: goodnight
Mesanna: Thank you
Mesanna: Have a good evening
Mesanna: Anyone else
Mesanna: ?
Pikeman: Hello
Mesanna: Evening PIkeman
Pikeman: Since there are only a few people here, I have 5 or 6 questions if that is alright
Misk: hello!
Mesanna: we will answer them as you ask then
Pikeman: First question
Pikeman: Is there a particular reason for not allowing profession titles in guild titles?
Pikeman: Such as blacksmith, ranger, or warrior, for example
Mesanna: it goes back to the beginning to preserve the titles and keep people from scamming others
Pikeman: Do you think it's still necessary? I kind of wish we could use those titles at times
Mesanna: yes I do
Pikeman: Understood
Pikeman: Second question
Mesanna: for the scamming reason alone
Mesanna: to be honest
Pikeman: This is about gamemasters
Mesanna: ok
Pikeman: I have some concerns, and I'm not asking this out of frustration, just concern
Pikeman: I know we've seen some griping on the forums and such
Pikeman: In my own experience paging a GM, I have noticed a few problems
Pikeman: There seems to be no notification of one's place in the queue, or even if there is a queue
Pikeman: Or even if there is a GM available to answer the page
Pikeman: And there is not, and please correct me if I am wrong, any posted times
Pikeman: for when GMs are available
Pikeman: In my own personal experience doing customer service, calls going unanswered is not a good thing
Pikeman: Do you have any thoughts or plans or desires to improve notifications or GM service?
Mesanna: ok so let me address the number in the queque first
Mesanna: we changed from a global system which UO was started with
Mesanna: to a newer system to track pages
Mesanna: when that happen we lost the number in the queque
Mesanna: I can see if one of the engineers over that system can add it
Mesanna: no promises
Mesanna: as far as the service
Mesanna: I do understand, and I personally have started as of today to help take calls when
Mesanna: I have a few moments to spare
Mesanna: We have several GM's out sick so its hurting us
Pikeman: Ahh
Mesanna: and yes I do understand your frustrations
Pikeman: No no, not frustrated, just concerned
Mesanna: we are trying to come up with better tools to help with this
Mesanna: I as the Producer and a player agree with you
Mesanna: we should and will do better
Pikeman: My next quewstion
Mesanna: ok
Pikeman: Is about BODs
Pikeman: I hate BODs
Pikeman: And I think it is a wildly out of date system
Mesanna: agreed as we stated in past M&G's
Pikeman: Would you consider, in the future, revamping them into more of a fishing quest/trade quest style
Mesanna: we are going to change the reward system to something similar to Tokuno
Pikeman: Oh
Pikeman: Well that answers my question perfectly
Mesanna: Sweet
Pikeman: Next question
Pikeman: Can you provide any additional information at this time about upcoming skill masteries?
Pikeman: How they work, etc?
Mesanna: sorry
Mesanna: Bleak is giving me a hard time
Mesanna: Oh we are going to be releasing more information in the near future
EM Chance: *snikers at bleaks death*
Pikeman: Okay
Mesanna: I think you guys are really going to like the changes
Pikeman: Also, is there anything you can say about what the new player experience you are working on
Pikeman: will be like?
Mesanna: The team is working hard on this new system
Mesanna: We are not working on that now
Mesanna: but
Mesanna: we need to put it in before we go to steam
Mesanna: it will not be in Publish 90
Mesanna: which will be out in late June early July
Pikeman: One more question, really more of a suggestion
Mesanna: ok
Pikeman: And I'll stop harrassing you
Mesanna: *smiles*
Pikeman: In the dev diary it was mentioned there will be new clothing
Pikeman: Can you please add a sea-captain's coat to that list
Pikeman: I think it would be very fitting for the game
Mesanna: Oh that would be good
Mesanna: nice suggestion
Pikeman: Thank you
Mesanna: I will see if we have time for it
Pikeman: That's all I have, I appreciate your time and responses
Mesanna: thank you
Mesanna: have a good evening
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: hello all
Mesanna: Good evening Fine Wine
Kyronix : Hello!
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 4 questions
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 1. any chance all the EMS could post to one website on perhaps a calendar?
Mesanna: We are making a new website
Mesanna: on uo.com
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: even better a google calender? that syncs to our phones?
Mesanna: that should have a calendar for this
Mesanna: but no
Mesanna: each EM has their own web site
Mesanna: but have you visited our facebook page
Mesanna: we are posting them there also
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: Facebook is the devil.
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: :)
Mesanna: ok trying to give you options =)
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: stratics is easiest for me.
Mesanna: Not posting them there sorry
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: and some have stopped posting there
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: ok next question
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: Gold. how soon are we going to see a change to the currency?
Mesanna: next big publish
Mesanna: Bleak is working on it now
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: awesome, thank you. so tired of the vendor storage. :)
Mesanna: me too
Mesanna: Vendor ATM's
Mesanna: lol
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: so sketchy lol
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: :)
Mesanna: I agree
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: next question.
Mesanna: we are starting to get a line
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 3. Idocs. 15 hours? really?
Mesanna: already talked about this
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: what is the logic in that?
Mesanna: it varies from 5 to 10 to 15 hours
: [Crystal] Mesanna says: it varies from 5 to 10 to 15 hours
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: im sure it will eventually...
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: but still 15 hours?
Mesanna: top yes
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: why?
Mesanna: changed from 20
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: purpose?
Mesanna: You know
: [Crystal] Mesanna says: You know
Mesanna: we listen to you guys and you complain about scripters
Mesanna: then we made a change from 20 hours to put some variance in it
Mesanna: and tell you it will drop at 5 10 or 15 hours
Mesanna: and we still get complaints
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 2 4 or 6 does the same thing
Mesanna: no
Mesanna: not with the change we are making so players can get their houses back
Mesanna: as stated earlier
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: ahh so it was a compromise.
Mesanna: It will do one last check
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: lastly
Mesanna: I would rather keep players than drop houses
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: 4. Young players at idocs. Ive noticed some still look young. Perhaps they are just renouncing
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: and then coming to the party
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: just wondering if you guys tested that.
Mesanna: We tested it for trial accounts
Mesanna: youngs that are paying for the account have every right to be there
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: and the trial accounts that renounce... have you tested them?
Mesanna: that doesn't matter
Mesanna: its still a trial account
Mesanna: trial accounts can not pick up items
Mesanna: from a idoc house
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: ok. Thank you for your time. but seriously 15 hours is crazy talk. :)
Mesanna: Thank you
Mesanna: ok no more 6 questions to many people in line now
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Good Evening, Dark Lady and honored minions!
Mesanna: Good evening
Kyronix : Hello!
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: If I may ask two questions.
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: First a quick one.
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Is there any chance of allowing us to imbue Fey Slayer?
Mesanna: we have that on our list actually
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Wonderful!
Mesanna: we are going to add it
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: :)
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Secondly, could I invite you to give us a tease or sneak peak of something upcoming?
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: There's got to be something you all are working on that you're dying to tell us?
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: :)
Mesanna: we did give you a sneak peak with your video
Mesanna: we will be giving more in the near future
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: A sneakier peak , then?
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: :)
Mesanna: lol
Mesanna: cute
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: I've heard rumors
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: of
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: ...
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: Hot air balloons?
EM Chance: lol
Kyronix : What a fantastic idea
Mesanna: do you want me to kill you
EM Chance: hahahaha
Mesanna: =P
: [Crystal] Lord Taliesin says: It would be an honor.
EM Chance: lol
: [Crystal] Taliesin says: :)
Mesanna: don't have to ask me twice =)
: [Crystal] Taliesin says: Have a great night!
Mesanna: you also
Mesanna: thank you
Mesanna: Evening Waters
: [Crystal] Taliesin says: my blessed items
: [Crystal] Taliesin says: reequiped!
Mesanna: that was a fix
Mesanna: we did
: [Crystal] Waters says: Evening!
: [Crystal] Waters says: Two specific questions if I may
Kyronix : Greetings!
: [Crystal] Waters says: What determines whether an item will receive the material's name upon enhancement?
: [Crystal] Waters says: I ask because I have enhanced a few items and no name change
: [Crystal] Waters says: Others have reverted to material names after a few server cycles
Mesanna: do you mean enchancing with valorite or whatever
: [Crystal] Waters says: Yes
Mesanna: can you be more specific
Mesanna: ok
: [Crystal] Waters says: I enhanced Alchy bracers
: [Crystal] Waters says: they retained their name
: [Crystal] Waters says: an orc chieftain helm
: [Crystal] Waters says: after a week became "horned...
Mesanna: so we do not have a good answer to this
Mesanna: but
Mesanna: if you could email us the steps to let us confirm this
Mesanna: and give specific items etc
: [Crystal] Waters says: sure thing
Mesanna: we would appreciate it
Mesanna: you have my email right?
: [Crystal] Waters says: I know where to find it, will do it after this session
Mesanna: send it to me and I will make sure everyone sees it
: [Crystal] Waters says: thank you. Secondly,
Mesanna: [email protected]
: [Crystal] Waters says: does the damage from frenzied whirlwind count towards leech effects?
Mesanna: Bleak want to answer this
Bleak: No
Bleak: it is seperate
: [Crystal] Waters says: Ok thank you very much for your time. Also if there is a Bleak look-a-like contest I think I win
: [Crystal] Waters says: =D
Mesanna: thank you
Mesanna: lol
Bleak: =D
: [Crystal] Waters says: Have a good evening!
Mesanna: you also
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: haill all bad typer here lol
Mesanna: Evening Arm
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: vet rewards
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: can we get some kind of clean up
Mesanna: you mean turn in one reward for another?
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: my picks of robesworthless
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: like 50
Mesanna: since we made the change you an sell and use vet rewards no
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: to get eomething
Mesanna: we will not have a turn in system for them
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: i was dumb and picked earlier
Mesanna: I am sorry
Mesanna: but now you have the option to buy them from someone
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: new vet reward , an armor stand
Mesanna: or have someone that loves you give you items =P
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: where u can put armor and give alol stats
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: like manaquin
: [Crystal] Lord Arm says: just an idea
Mesanna: we can add it to manniquins
Mesanna: mannequins
Mesanna: anything else?
Arm: i see they ask about 15 hours idocs
Mesanna: several tinmes
Arm: it is too long
Mesanna: times
Mesanna: not going to keep talking about the same subject please
Arm: at enets the lag bad
Arm: events
Arm: lag is bad
Arm: so many multis
Arm: im sure its been said
Mesanna: yes sir it has
Arm: are there gms?
Arm: when i call nwver come
Mesanna: yes we stated this also
Mesanna: yes sir
Mesanna: ok we have a longer line
Mesanna: anything else
Arm: well ty thats all really just haye cheating ty
Alie: hi all
EM Chance: *hands allie a robe*
Mesanna: Greetings Alie
Alie: i am too hot
Alie: so i need to be naked
Alie: lol
Bleak: Hello Alie
Alie: few questions
Mesanna: 2
Mesanna: only
Alie: Mannequins, Can one day we be able to rename them? will be nice to rename after the Toon/Suit
Mesanna: I will add it to our list
Alie: ok
Alie: also
Alie: was asked b4
Alie: about
Alie: Turn Point Menu
Alie: any change to get a better menu? like page maybe? hard to click 15 pages to pick last dyes
Alie: if i need to buy 10 dyes
Alie: i have to click 40x
Alie: to go buy
Mesanna: we would have to revamp the whole system
Mesanna: its just time consuming
Alie: oh
Alie: well
Alie: now
Alie: for the best
Alie: KILL ME
Mesanna: but we do understand what you are saying
Alie: Love u all
Alie: gn
Mesanna: now you have a robe
Mesanna: night
Mesanna: hi Bob
Bob Ross: hail all
Bob Ross: couple pvp questions
Bleak: 42
Bob Ross: any thoughts on increasing the stat timer to say 5-7 mins
Bob Ross: since there is stat pots now
Bob Ross: 3 mins is just to short
Bob Ross: when its out numbered
Bob Ross: ?
Mesanna: one sec they are looking it up
Bob Ross: 5-7 mins woulsd make ppl
Bob Ross: use the stat pots
Mesanna: we will look into it and discuss it
Bob Ross: ty
Mesanna: welcome
Mesanna: good point
Bob Ross: i mean
Bob Ross: ppl can res
Bob Ross: faster thewn u can kep them down
Bob Ross: also
Bob Ross: the haven bug
Bob Ross: is that being looked at
Mesanna: we have it fixed
Bob Ross: nice
Bob Ross: thats all i got
Mesanna: will be published soon
Mesanna: thank you
Bob Ross: take care
Mesanna: you also
Mesanna: Evening Demigodess
Kyronix : Hello!
: [Crystal] Kyronix says: Hello!
Demigodess: you too Mesanna
Bleak: Hi
Demigodess: :p
Demigodess: what the new lands and new animal and those speical items
Demigodess: whats the new skill item olny thing
Mesanna: umm
Mesanna: what are you talking about sorry lost me
Mesanna: not following your question Demi
Demigodess: alot of people get lose talking me me i want to know about the new animals we will have
Mesanna: oh
Mesanna: are you talking about when we do the pet revamp
Mesanna: or this upcoming publish?
Demigodess: yup
Demigodess: pet
Demigodess: revamp
Mesanna: ok we honestly do not have all of them finalized
Mesanna: so I would rather not say something that is not true
Mesanna: when you have a list
Mesanna: we will let you guys know
Mesanna: that is just going to take alot of art
Mesanna: new mobs etc
Demigodess: ok is theres going to be a smaller animal than greater in it
Mesanna: Yes
Mesanna: I would love to shrink the Greater =P
Demigodess: becuase they allways get in the way of event just too big
Mesanna: we understand
Mesanna: give mobs a new skill to turn them into a bunny..lol
Demigodess: lol
Demigodess: that be fun and make them have cool colors
Mesanna: within reason yes
Mesanna: no purple dragons
Demigodess: awww :p
Mesanna: Any other questions?
Demigodess: whats the new vet eths
Demigodess: going to be or you dont know
Mesanna: don't know yet for this year
Demigodess: i would do a dragon looking thing
Demigodess: that you can change its colors
Demigodess: lol Chance
Mesanna: Anything else Demi
Demigodess: what do do Misk and
Mesanna: Our line is getting longer
Demigodess: Bleak do
Mesanna: Bleak Engineer
Mesanna: Misk QA
Demigodess: and kyronix
Mesanna: Kyronix Dev
Demigodess: one last thing I LOVE YOU MESANNA :p
Mesanna: *smiles* thank you Demi
Mesanna: thats kind of you
Demigodess: *smiles too*
Mesanna: have a good evening
DarkSlave: Hello it's a pleasure to be in your presence..im a 16 year vet,i didnt play much and i would like
Mesanna: HI Darkslave
Bleak: Hello
Kyronix : Hello!
DarkSlave: to know when i can get my mesanna masks painted here
DarkSlave: ive talked to you before
DarkSlave: no paint yet
Mesanna: have a house?
DarkSlave: :)
Mesanna: send me the location
DarkSlave: yea
DarkSlave: copy that
Mesanna: I will go find them and dye them
Mesanna: eaier
Mesanna: easier
DarkSlave: sweet that will work for me
DarkSlave: thank you
Mesanna: great most welcome
DarkSlave: can you dev's please ask us before you make massive changes we all live for this game
DarkSlave: and thank you
Mesanna: Thats why we put stuff on TC
Mesanna: for feedback
DarkSlave: Willard loves you all Remember me!!!!!!!!
DarkSlave: take care
Mesanna: Have a great evening
Mesanna: you also
DarkSlave: u too
Mesanna: did you miss Fugly
EM Chance: he cut
Mesanna: Evening D'Artagnan
EM Chance: he is after art
D'Artagnan: hi
Mesanna: hi
Mesanna: how can we help you this evening
D'Artagnan: 1 i have q is about life bars at events can u consider a different hue for the bosses?
D'Artagnan: say like bright orange or somthin
Mesanna: we have talked about colored health bars for difficulty
D'Artagnan: and another question
Mesanna: ok
D'Artagnan: about crafting menue
D'Artagnan: anyways of makiing the make max tab
D'Artagnan: faster
Bleak: No sorry
D'Artagnan: the crafting is way to slow
Mesanna: lol no it would make Bleaks head explode to mess with that
D'Artagnan: when filling large amount of bods
D'Artagnan: and weapons and suck
D'Artagnan: such sorry
D'Artagnan: what u mean?
Mesanna: its pretty much as fast as its going to get, atleast you can macro it
Mesanna: yes we understand
Mesanna: but its not an easy change either
Mesanna: and we all know crafting can be a pain at times
D'Artagnan: something to work on maybe please?
D'Artagnan: future..
Mesanna: no promises
Mesanna: but we will take it under consideration
Mesanna: how about that
D'Artagnan: i have have 1 thing for mesanna
Mesanna: if we see a way we will
Mesanna: yes sir?
D'Artagnan: since this is the first time ive been able to catch u
D'Artagnan: may i ask u to dye my masks for me please
Mesanna: please do what I asked the other guy to do for me
Mesanna: send me an email with your house location and where the mask is
D'Artagnan: sorrry missed that?
Mesanna: I will go tomorrow and dye them
Mesanna: its ok you have my email address?
D'Artagnan: no i dont sorry
D'Artagnan: and please ty very much
Mesanna: [email protected]
D'Artagnan: :::)))))
D'Artagnan: OMG ty a bucnh
D'Artagnan: !!
Mesanna: welcome
Mesanna: have a good evening
Mesanna: Hi Fugly
Fugly Casanova: what UP :)
Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
Fugly Casanova: couple questions
Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
Mesanna: only if you stop swinging
EM Chance: haha
Fugly Casanova: have you guys ever thought about making another way to gain justice?
Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
Mesanna: no sir we have not
Fugly Casanova: with all the blues most shards don't have reds to kill to gain justice
Mesanna: we want to finish the system first
Fugly Casanova: and will you dye jack o lanterns also?
Mesanna: you hear my answer right
Fugly Casanova: k
Mesanna: will be happy to, look forward to your email
Fugly Casanova: good enough answer for me
Fugly Casanova: ty
Mesanna: welcome
Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
Mesanna: have a good evening
Fugly Casanova: duel me and bos ross dev team?
Mesanna: lol we cheat
Fugly Casanova: so
Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
Mesanna: we have I win buttons
Fugly Casanova: would be a great video then
Fugly Casanova: :)
Mesanna: *grins*
Fugly Casanova: see ya :)
Mesanna: Night\
Alfred von Weez: Hi
Mesanna: Greetings Alfred
Kyronix : Greetings
Alfred von Weez: Two quick questions: One, would you please dy e my maks if I send you and e-mail?
Mesanna: yes
Mesanna: that was easy
Alfred von Weez: (I heard your response before)
Mesanna: thank you
Alfred von Weez: Also, any thoughts of enhancing the harrower experience?
Alfred von Weez: I mean, you re-did the leagcy dungeons
Alfred von Weez: but not the harry
Mesanna: true but we have not done all of them yet
Alfred von Weez: just a thought
Mesanna: we have not thought about revamping him
Alfred von Weez: TYou should maybe...
Mesanna: if you have any suggestions we would love to read them
Alfred von Weez: Great, thanks
Alfred von Weez: Have a great night :)
Mesanna: anytime
Mesanna: you also Alfred
Mesanna: Greetings Maparoni
Maparoni: wow that was fast, haha
Maparoni: hiya Mesanna
Maparoni: so 2 questions...
Maparoni: I was curious to know if you guys will ever be adding the option to have stairs on any side of
Maparoni: custom placed houses
Mesanna: only the front
Mesanna: there are issues for the east side
Mesanna: they won't work
Maparoni: :[ even the north? for places in luna?
Mesanna: and with the placement restrictions it makes it harder also
Maparoni: hmm i guess that's true heh
Mesanna: would be messy
Maparoni: No probs, was just curious if it was possible
Maparoni: second was about emails...
Mesanna: ok
Maparoni: I have sent out emails through uo.com contact page, and an email to you, but haven't received
Maparoni: any responses in weeks/months...
Mesanna: about bugs?
Maparoni: Is there something with that? too many?
Mesanna: accounts?
Maparoni: about account issues
Mesanna: well the ones coming to me gets forwarded
Mesanna: to [email protected]
Mesanna: you should be sending them there honestly
Mesanna: if you are still having issues I can try to help
Mesanna: but we need to havea ticket to track first
Maparoni: I was told to email Mesanna@broadsword or Bonnie@broadsword, I tried both of those
Maparoni: was 2 or 3 weeks ago
Mesanna: I am not going to ask your information here
Maparoni: okie
Mesanna: so send me an email stating this is me from Napa
Mesanna: and I will look thru the emails to see if I have any from you
Mesanna: best I can do right now
Maparoni: Awesome, sounds good, I can also just resend the old email as well
Mesanna: true
Mesanna: you can do that
Mesanna: thank you
Maparoni: Thank you as well :D
Maparoni: I'll send tonight
Mesanna: ok
Mesanna: I will check in the morning
Mesanna: have a good evening Maparoni
Maparoni: Glad to have met ya :D
Maparoni: u too, cya later
Mesanna: You also
Mesanna: Greetings Hera
Hera: Guards
Hera: Guards
Hera: good evening
Mesanna: they won't help you
EM Chance: lol
Hera: thats ok
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: i a veteran player
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: 16 years
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: Guards
Hera: and never met you guys
Mesanna: what can we do for you tonight
Hera: so wanted to come and say hello
Mesanna: Thank you
Hera: my family plays
Kyronix : Hello!
Mesanna: We love to hear that
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: we have like 18 accounts and play in many servers
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: Guards
Hera: i just wanted to tell you that we love your game
Hera: and think it has many plus and a few minus
Mesanna: Thank you, I have meet several families that still play together
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: Guards
Hera: Guards
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: but overall we love the game and keep coming back after short breaks
Mesanna: We do appreciate hearing that
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: yeah i know there will always be cheaters
Hera: Guards
Hera: and not a lot can be done but we do all aspects of the game
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: recdu recsu
Hera: and will look forward to the new expansion
Mesanna: we are excited about the upcoming one
Hera: Guards
Hera: yes any ideas how long?
Mesanna: yes late June early July
Hera: Guards
Hera: wow thats great
Mesanna: with a small publish for easter
Hera: thanks
Hera: !
Mesanna: have a good evening
Hera: you too
Hera: all of you
Mesanna: thank you
EM Chance: i think shes afk
Mesanna: Greetings Beth
Mesanna: Greetings Whisper
Whisper: :)
Whisper: how are yall
Mesanna: good and yourself
Whisper: busy woman
Whisper: its been
Whisper: 2 yrs since i saw u Mesanna
Mesanna: I am around
Whisper: i heard u mite color my mask?
Whisper: i know
Whisper: u have spies
Mesanna: did you read what I told the other players?
Whisper: lol
Whisper: im good
Whisper: iheard
Whisper: ty
Mesanna: good deal
Whisper: im not here to compalain
Whisper: just to say hi
Whisper: :)
Mesanna: thank you
Whisper: oh and
Mesanna: I will watch for all the emails in the morning
Kyronix : Greetings!
Mesanna: make sure you guys mail me
Whisper: lol
Whisper: drink lots of coffee
Whisper: rofl
Mesanna: lol
Whisper: thats all
Whisper: wanted to greet ya
Whisper: :)
Mesanna: have a good evening'
Whisper: u too
Whisper: all of u
Mesanna: ok last one tonight is Beth
Whisper: :)
Mesanna: Hi Beth
Beth: Hello
Beth: Can I ask a couple of questions?
Mesanna: 2
Mesanna: sorry getting late
Beth: 1?
Mesanna: you can ask 2
Beth: Ok
Mesanna: go ahead
Beth: I wish to ask that you have any plan to enhance or complete the EC or
Beth: plan for unify the client as one which remake the game from fundamental
Beth: As you may know that CC doesn't have chance of getting new functions
Mesanna: Bleak will answer this for us
Beth: and EC doesn't look not good, no offense, to both of Asia and US players
Bleak: We just added new features to the EC in last couple of publishes.
Bleak: What do you suggest we change about the client?
Beth: It would be took a little bit time, is it okay?
Mesanna: Email would be better
Beth: Yes, I thought about it just now
Mesanna: than doing it here
Mesanna: lol
Beth: I think I better email you feedback
Mesanna: that would be great
Beth: And one another question
Beth: About quest
Beth: I know that we have lots of quests but
Beth: unfortunately that we do have only simple search and find or
Beth: search and kill some kind of simple quests around old facets
Beth: like ilshenar, malas, tokuno
Beth: I think they deserve some quests that might be major quests
Beth: that players can understand their history and background stories
Beth: or something like connection between Britannia
Beth: It's just suggestion
Mesanna: I can see that, thanks for the suggestion
Beth: Thank you for giving me time
Mesanna: no worries thank you
Beth: and thank you all of your great efforts for the game
Mesanna: next
Mesanna: since you pulled Beth from the back
Mesanna: Raimeus is last
Mesanna: Chance
EM Chance: sorry
Mesanna: Greetings'
Raimeus: How Ma'am.
Raimeus: Devs
Mesanna: Greetings
Bleak: Hi
Raimeus: I got one question
Mesanna: ok
Raimeus: THREE CHEERS for the DEVS and Mesanna.
Raimeus: HIP HIP
Raimeus: ok bye
Mesanna: question?
Fugly Casanova: Fugly Casanova begins to menacingly swing a bola...
Fugly Casanova: just waiting for our duel
Demigodess: when you going to do gifts that players will love like those anni horses (rember me (DarkSpawn)
Demigodess: just had to say that Dark Part
Demigodess: lol
Demigodess: :p
Demigodess: is the Dev afk now
Mesanna: no clue we have not come up with any of the gifts right now
Demigodess: ok
Demigodess: :p i bet you rember me do you
Mesanna: I am sorry do you have a question for us
Mesanna: we are having a hard time reading your text in the journal
Demigodess: oooo
Demigodess: better
Mesanna: yes what is your question
Mesanna: sorry
Demigodess: :p i bet you rember me do you (i am DarkSpawn)
Demigodess: :p
Mesanna: yes
Demigodess: ty that all i wanted to know
Demigodess: :p
Mesanna: ok
Mesanna: night again
Demigodess: nice meeting you angin
Mesanna: lol
Demigodess: night lol
Mesanna: you also
Gauthier: hello. Thanks for takign time to meet with players like this.
Mesanna: Our pleasure
Mesanna: and greetings
Gauthier: magincia bazaar plots and bidding the plot.
Gauthier: the current owner must pay any bid (to cover those) to retain the plot.
Gauthier: a new player bidding the plot pays it only 1 time
Gauthier: from week to week, the owner must cover it while the bid from the outside is not paid
Gauthier: unless they overcome the bid.
Gauthier: this is the reason i gave up mine
Gauthier: but i liked it
Gauthier: it took probably 8 hours to setup
Gauthier: with prices and organization.
Gauthier: that was just too much to give up the 2mill bid weekly
Gauthier: and the only way not to have the charge... is to drop the plot
Gauthier: please examine this to be more fair.
Mesanna: one sec
Mesanna: trying to figure out everything
Mesanna: you just said
Mesanna: are you saying it was to expensive?
Gauthier: the person put a bid on my plot for 2 mill
Gauthier: but didn't have to pay that week after week.
Gauthier: only put in the bid
Gauthier: they are only charged that gold when they 'win' the plot.
Gauthier: i had to cover that bid week after week.
Gauthier: eventually i ran out of gold.
Gauthier: it waas a gold sink to the current owner
Gauthier: while someone bidding on the plot doesn't pay that aamount.
Mesanna: we will look at it again
Gauthier: at least not weekly.
Gauthier: thanks .
Gauthier: havea agreat night!
Gauthier: u
Mesanna: Good night
Gauthier: do you need an email?
Mesanna: yes please
Gauthier: i can explain the details better maybe
Gauthier: ok
Gauthier: weill do
Mesanna: good deal
Gauthier: thanks !
Mesanna: Thank you Napa for coming to talk to us
Mesanna: Have a great evening everyone
Mesanna: I look forward to getting your emails
Mesanna: make sure you state the facet and name of house
Mesanna: Night everyone
 

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I still think they should allow the imbuing of Crafted Spellbooks.

A warrior can get anything they want put on their weapons... Throwers, macers, fencers, swords, and archers. Why can't mages?

Instead we have to rely on an extremely antiquated system to blow through resources that are next to impossible to get.... I can do 100 Lady M runs and not get enough Taint to make ONE scrappers. I can spend 16 hours stealing in the Exodus dungeon area trying to get keys and stuff and not get enough Taint to make a Scrappers.

And then in the Off chance you come up with enough ingredients to actually CRAFT a Scrappers the chances of you getting a "slayer" are slim to none. I've made 100's of them... and I've gotten maybe 2 slayers and even then it's something totally stupid like a water elemental slayer or a lizardman slayer.

Actually getting a "useful" slayer is nearly impossible.... top that off with the fact that Mages can't even get the slayer benefit of a Talisman and you see why we need to be able to IMBUE the freaking things.

And I heard the "argument" that Mesanna gave about if they made it something you could "Imbue" then it would put Inscribers out of business... THAT is a lie! If anything it would make it useful again because everyone would want a ton of the plain ones to imbue. Also you can't overpower them... There are "caps" on things. It wouldn't make the skill any less viable than Blacksmithing or Trailoring. You still need THOSE skills to make the base items to imbue. So you would still need Inscription to make the base item to imbue. If anything it would give the skill a boon.

If I could imbue a regular spellbook that would be fine too... But cut mages some slack and throw them a bone would ya?
i agree with you about the lack of slayer books, however i dont think imbuing would be the best option. A basic slayer spellbooks with say 20 sdi would be perfect drops for bosses. Id rather see something like this revitalize old content/bosses rather than just suck up a miniscule portion of duped deed resources we have in circulation.

now i understand the track record for the devs putting useful drops on bosses is horrendous, so my hopes arent high, but slayer spellbooks with sdi would be a perfect addition. knowing how out of touch the devs are tho, they would probably end up with slayer/lrc lol.
 

azmodanb

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I still think they should allow the imbuing of Crafted Spellbooks.

A warrior can get anything they want put on their weapons... Throwers, macers, fencers, swords, and archers. Why can't mages?

Instead we have to rely on an extremely antiquated system to blow through resources that are next to impossible to get.... I can do 100 Lady M runs and not get enough Taint to make ONE scrappers. I can spend 16 hours stealing in the Exodus dungeon area trying to get keys and stuff and not get enough Taint to make a Scrappers.

And then in the Off chance you come up with enough ingredients to actually CRAFT a Scrappers the chances of you getting a "slayer" are slim to none. I've made 100's of them... and I've gotten maybe 2 slayers and even then it's something totally stupid like a water elemental slayer or a lizardman slayer.

Actually getting a "useful" slayer is nearly impossible.... top that off with the fact that Mages can't even get the slayer benefit of a Talisman and you see why we need to be able to IMBUE the freaking things.

And I heard the "argument" that Mesanna gave about if they made it something you could "Imbue" then it would put Inscribers out of business... THAT is a lie! If anything it would make it useful again because everyone would want a ton of the plain ones to imbue. Also you can't overpower them... There are "caps" on things. It wouldn't make the skill any less viable than Blacksmithing or Trailoring. You still need THOSE skills to make the base items to imbue. So you would still need Inscription to make the base item to imbue. If anything it would give the skill a boon.

If I could imbue a regular spellbook that would be fine too... But cut mages some slack and throw them a bone would ya?
yes rare... but your idea would kill one way for scribes to.make decent cash.. if your ok with that .. then i have no issues. just don't make a post later on how crafters need a new way to make money
 

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Hera: and will look forward to the new expansion
Mesanna: we are excited about the upcoming one
Hera: Guards
Hera: yes any ideas how long?
Mesanna: yes late June early July
Hera: Guards
Hera: wow thats great
Mesanna: with a small publish for easter
Is Mesanna saying here that the expansion publish is coming in late June, early July or is she talking about just a bigger publish than the one planned for Easter?
 

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yes rare... but your idea would kill one way for scribes to.make decent cash.. if your ok with that .. then i have no issues. just don't make a post later on how crafters need a new way to make money
How many crafters do you know who are ONLY a scribe? I'm fine with it as most crafters do everything. They can still make decent cash off them AFTER they are Imbued.
 

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I'd say give us runic pen and ink and let us reforge spellbooks with one option being slayer. This would allow somewhat easier and more controlled crafting of slayer books in a way that kept inscription useful and was still random, just not as frustratingly so.
 

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I don't have a full transcript but I thought I'd post some of the highlights of last night's meeting with the Dev team.

-Fey Slayer will be added to imbuing
-Kyronix thinks Hot Air Balloons are "a fantastic idea!" Mesanna's wrath was swift at their mention.
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-Fugly Casanova and Bob Ross challenged the devs to a 2x2 duel, Mesanna declined saying that she would just cheat.
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1) YES. About a week ago I was doing Oaks on my thrower, with the Garg Wind of Corruption. I lamented the fact that it was chaos damage, and that my damage on everything wasn't guaranteed - I'd do as little as 22 (their highest resist) to triple digits (their weakest resist), and I even said as much to my guildmates, that I wish it were possible to imbue Fey Slayer.
2 & 3) lol.

Another way to gain justice, eh? Interesting. Perhaps for killing monsters like Barracoon, Neira, and Brigands? But you don't gain anywhere near as much as you would for killing a player...because let's face it, if someone new to PvP decides they want to max out their Justice, the Red(s) they try to kill won't die, unless there's a group, and even then, the experience gap will make it tough. Someone new to it(or rusty) won't have the reflexes or levelheadedness needed to be able to fight someone that PvP's on a daily basis.
 
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MalagAste

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I'd say give us runic pen and ink and let us reforge spellbooks with one option being slayer. This would allow somewhat easier and more controlled crafting of slayer books in a way that kept inscription useful and was still random, just not as frustratingly so.
Not a bad Idea. I could live with that. I'm so sick of trying to make decent slayers.
 

drcossack

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Not a bad Idea. I could live with that. I'm so sick of trying to make decent slayers.
Me too. I've made a few non-Scrapper's Slayers, and even that's random/annoying. It's all been lesser slayers too, like scorpion, spider, Blood Elemental, etc. I won't complain obviously, since lessers are 3x damage, but I haven't made a single super slayer - the ones I do have, I've purchased. If I want to use, say, my repond or demon slayer books? I need to move them between chars, since I only have one.
 

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"Mesanna: each EM has their own web site
Mesanna: but have you visited our facebook page
Mesanna: we are posting them there also
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: Facebook is the devil.
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: :)
Mesanna: ok trying to give you options =)
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: stratics is easiest for me.
Mesanna: Not posting them there sorry"

lol, trying to give us options... but not the options that have existed for years. Trying to make us go to facebook. bleh.
 

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": [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: but still 15 hours?
Mesanna: top yes
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: why?
Mesanna: changed from 20
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: purpose?
Mesanna: You know
: [Crystal] Mesanna says: You know
Mesanna: we listen to you guys and you complain about scripters
Mesanna: then we made a change from 20 hours to put some variance in it
Mesanna: and tell you it will drop at 5 10 or 15 hours
Mesanna: and we still get complaints"

they still get complaints because it changed from 7 hours not 20... because of a screw up they wont admit to. still no warranted reason as to why its 15 hours instead of something more manageable.
 

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": [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: but still 15 hours?
Mesanna: top yes
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: why?
Mesanna: changed from 20
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: purpose?
Mesanna: You know
: [Crystal] Mesanna says: You know
Mesanna: we listen to you guys and you complain about scripters
Mesanna: then we made a change from 20 hours to put some variance in it
Mesanna: and tell you it will drop at 5 10 or 15 hours
Mesanna: and we still get complaints"

they still get complaints because it changed from 7 hours not 20... because of a screw up they wont admit to. still no warranted reason as to why its 15 hours instead of something more manageable.
I agree. 2/4/6 is more manageable. People can't sit & watch a house all day, unless they have a script running (but then, they're not truly watching it.) If the IDOC is in Fel, Reds will be there, and we will use AoE spells like EQ to kill the hiding players. I know, for myself anyway, that the possible loot I'd get* is secondary to the fighting that will take place, which is why I tend to ignore Tram IDOCs.

*During my brief stay on Atl, I ran across an IDOC near Ice Dungeon. I grabbed a backpack full of 120's. I could have sold them, sure (especially the magery & resist scrolls), but I decided to use them for myself, to make characters on other servers (though suiting them up is somewhat of an issue...)
 

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"Mesanna: each EM has their own web site
Mesanna: but have you visited our facebook page
Mesanna: we are posting them there also
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: Facebook is the devil.
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: :)
Mesanna: ok trying to give you options =)
: [Crystal] A Fine Wine says: stratics is easiest for me.
Mesanna: Not posting them there sorry"

lol, trying to give us options... but not the options that have existed for years. Trying to make us go to facebook. bleh.

Facebook is Evil. I refuse to use it. I'll never have a Facebook account. Nothing angers me more than companies that use Facebook... Greedy crap... Yes it's "free" advertising... but at a HUGE cost. Facebook is responsible for so many ills in the world. Loss of Jobs, getting folk killed, molested, and many other things... It's easily abused and has destroyed families, ruined marriages, all sorts of things... Yet folk promote it like it's this wonderful thing. When seriously it's a tool for psychopaths to invade your life... it's a tool for those that own it to sell everything about you to anyone and everyone with ZERO regard to who's using it or what they are using it for.

I find it disgusting and disturbing. And I refuse to use it or promote it. I can not understand why anyone would. I hear folk say all the time it's a way for friends and family to stay connected... but seriously there are better ways that are far more secure...

Did you know that everytime you post a picture to Facebook from your phone it posts the location of where that picture was taken??? And sick people can use that to know exactly where you go. They can track your CHILD to where they play, what school they go to and much more. It's sickening. Yet folk promote it like it's the most wonderful amazing thing. If you don't believe me there was a Dateline special about it.

And people make it easier and easier for others to get information about you that you seriously don't want them to have.
 

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I agree. 2/4/6 is more manageable. People can't sit & watch a house all day, unless they have a script running (but then, they're not truly watching it.) If the IDOC is in Fel, Reds will be there, and we will use AoE spells like EQ to kill the hiding players. I know, for myself anyway, that the possible loot I'd get* is secondary to the fighting that will take place, which is why I tend to ignore Tram IDOCs.

*During my brief stay on Atl, I ran across an IDOC near Ice Dungeon. I grabbed a backpack full of 120's. I could have sold them, sure (especially the magery & resist scrolls), but I decided to use them for myself, to make characters on other servers (though suiting them up is somewhat of an issue...)
Actually the turn in sorcerers suit and such isn't really that horrible as a "cheap" suit. And if you have old gifty crap on other shards it doesn't take that much to get it.
 

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Facebook is Evil. I refuse to use it. I'll never have a Facebook account. Nothing angers me more than companies that use Facebook... Greedy crap... Yes it's "free" advertising... but at a HUGE cost. Facebook is responsible for so many ills in the world. Loss of Jobs, getting folk killed, molested, and many other things... It's easily abused and has destroyed families, ruined marriages, all sorts of things... Yet folk promote it like it's this wonderful thing. When seriously it's a tool for psychopaths to invade your life... it's a tool for those that own it to sell everything about you to anyone and everyone with ZERO regard to who's using it or what they are using it for.

I find it disgusting and disturbing. And I refuse to use it or promote it. I can not understand why anyone would. I hear folk say all the time it's a way for friends and family to stay connected... but seriously there are better ways that are far more secure...

Did you know that everytime you post a picture to Facebook from your phone it posts the location of where that picture was taken??? And sick people can use that to know exactly where you go. They can track your CHILD to where they play, what school they go to and much more. It's sickening. Yet folk promote it like it's the most wonderful amazing thing. If you don't believe me there was a Dateline special about it.

And people make it easier and easier for others to get information about you that you seriously don't want them to have.
O_O

I keep mine open due to laziness, but you're right. Outside of the "Happy Birthday" posts (which I often "forget" to do, unless I like the person/feel like it) or the rare "How are you" type messages, I very rarely do anything on it. If I do post any pics, I do so on Instagram; IG probably isn't much better, but I post maybe 2-3 pics a year on that. I don't have my location set on it, but all of my pics are taken at the local ballpark (Yankees minor league affiliate, their AAA team.)

That aside, all of the people I knew in HS & college? I don't talk to them at all on there. There's no reason for me to have it. I did run into one of my friends from college @ the aforementioned stadium last summer, but other than that, I don't see any of them, nor do I care enough to make the effort, since it's been so long since we last talked.

Actually the turn in sorcerers suit and such isn't really that horrible as a "cheap" suit. And if you have old gifty crap on other shards it doesn't take that much to get it.
Yeah, I've only ever played on LS until recently (inbetween my multi-year UO "vacations.") All my stuff is on there, although I am training a char on Catskills with a Sorc Suit @Flutter gave me. Once I build a pvp-worthy suit I'll try to find someone with a shard shield...then I get to do it again for the other East Coast shards.
 

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O_O

Yeah, I've only ever played on LS until recently (inbetween my multi-year UO "vacations.") All my stuff is on there, although I am training a char on Catskills with a Sorc Suit @Flutter gave me. Once I build a pvp-worthy suit I'll try to find someone with a shard shield...then I get to do it again for the other East Coast shards.
By December of this year I ought to have a Shard Shield to every shard. Excepting of course Siege and Mugen as I see little point in getting them.

Thats of course "if" I'm still playing UO and "if" UO is still around...
 

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It's still the same producer that can't get the EMs to set town criers in advance, with date and time like it should be. Leave alone EM schedule on patch notes. What do people expect?
 

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Facebook is Evil. I refuse to use it. I'll never have a Facebook account. Nothing angers me more than companies that use Facebook... Greedy crap... Yes it's "free" advertising... but at a HUGE cost. Facebook is responsible for so many ills in the world. Loss of Jobs, getting folk killed, molested, and many other things... It's easily abused and has destroyed families, ruined marriages, all sorts of things... Yet folk promote it like it's this wonderful thing. When seriously it's a tool for psychopaths to invade your life... it's a tool for those that own it to sell everything about you to anyone and everyone with ZERO regard to who's using it or what they are using it for.

I find it disgusting and disturbing. And I refuse to use it or promote it. I can not understand why anyone would. I hear folk say all the time it's a way for friends and family to stay connected... but seriously there are better ways that are far more secure...

Did you know that everytime you post a picture to Facebook from your phone it posts the location of where that picture was taken??? And sick people can use that to know exactly where you go. They can track your CHILD to where they play, what school they go to and much more. It's sickening. Yet folk promote it like it's the most wonderful amazing thing. If you don't believe me there was a Dateline special about it.

And people make it easier and easier for others to get information about you that you seriously don't want them to have.
This makes me giggle. Do you really believe you are living some sort of "off the radar" kind of life? Did you know that there's an app on my phone that lets me know exactly where my friends are in case I want to meet up with them someplace? *gasp* I KNOW! Did you know there's something called foursquare where you can PUBLICLY check in places like gas stations and supermarkets and restaurants and it notifies your friends, family, and stalkers to where you are?? *gasp* I KNOW!! Did you know that I have a friend who uses a coupon app online to get coupons for the things she shops most often for? THEY KNOW WHAT SHE EATS!!! *gasp* I KNOW!
I am just going to hide here under this rock and hypocritically post on a public forum because no one in the whole wide world can find out who I am THAT way. I am also not having magazines sent to my house or filling out any applications that require my address. Oh and I block all communications and also never use checks to pay for anything because it requires I have a name and address. I also wear disguises every time I go out of the house so no one knows what I really look like. It is much better this way. I have to go now, it's time for my tin foil hat fitting.
 

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Did you know that everytime you post a picture to Facebook from your phone it posts the location of where that picture was taken???
One of the many reasons I will never have an iPhone/smartphone...the pictures I take on my cheap pay as you go phone go onto a mini sd card which then comes out of my phone and into my computer..I HAVE FOILED THE SYSTEM! :)

I do agree, however, that there are still many people in this world that refuse to use facebook, so for them to limit the EM's that way is just stupid in my opinion.
 

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Pikeman: Is there a particular reason for not allowing profession titles in guild titles?
Pikeman: Such as blacksmith, ranger, or warrior, for example
Mesanna: it goes back to the beginning to preserve the titles and keep people from scamming others
Pikeman: Do you think it's still necessary? I kind of wish we could use those titles at times
Mesanna: yes I do
Mesanna: for the scamming reason alone
Mesanna: to be honest
Hahaha what? What scamming reason? Yeah jeez, think of all the scams that would go down if you could have "warrior" in your guild title!

Do these people know what UO is?
 

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Hahaha what? What scamming reason? Yeah jeez, think of all the scams that would go down if you could have "warrior" in your guild title!
That was my question, and I wanted to inquire further just what kind of scams were possible because of a guild title but I didn't want to argue or waste more time with it. It seems like something that goes 'back to the beginning' could possibly be re-evaluated a decade later, since guild titles appear differently than they did before AoS. Ah well. Not really a big deal.

As for the Facebook thing, I also do not think that's a big deal. Like she said, it's an additional option. The new website is supposed to feature a calender that will show EM events, unless I am misunderstanding what was said, so hopefully that will work well and us non-facebookers can just use the UO website.
 

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The scam thing she was talking about was probably the old scam from before trammel existed where someone would pretend to be a blacksmith, get someone to give them their armor to repair, and the scammer would steal it. It doesn't really have any purpose to keep people from using the titles in modern times though.
 

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This makes me giggle. Do you really believe you are living some sort of "off the radar" kind of life? Did you know that there's an app on my phone that lets me know exactly where my friends are in case I want to meet up with them someplace? *gasp* I KNOW! Did you know there's something called foursquare where you can PUBLICLY check in places like gas stations and supermarkets and restaurants and it notifies your friends, family, and stalkers to where you are?? *gasp* I KNOW!! Did you know that I have a friend who uses a coupon app online to get coupons for the things she shops most often for? THEY KNOW WHAT SHE EATS!!! *gasp* I KNOW!
I am just going to hide here under this rock and hypocritically post on a public forum because no one in the whole wide world can find out who I am THAT way. I am also not having magazines sent to my house or filling out any applications that require my address. Oh and I block all communications and also never use checks to pay for anything because it requires I have a name and address. I also wear disguises every time I go out of the house so no one knows what I really look like. It is much better this way. I have to go now, it's time for my tin foil hat fitting.
Its not that I am afraid of being tracked or counted. I REFUSE to use Facebook as and in protest to what they do and I stand by my convictions. I despise them for the lives they have destroyed and in my opinion the loss of lives caused by the lack of security and thei r overly open nature. And many other reasons. By using Facebook you support them and what they do with not only your information but the information of innocent children who have been exploited through Facebook and other seemingly harmless social networking sites.


By using them you support them.... and the more folk do the more they will continue to do it.
 

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Its not that I am afraid of being tracked or counted. I REFUSE to use Facebook as and in protest to what they do and I stand by my convictions. I despise them for the lives they have destroyed and in my opinion the loss of lives caused by the lack of security and thei r overly open nature. And many other reasons. By using Facebook you support them and what they do with not only your information but the information of innocent children who have been exploited through Facebook and other seemingly harmless social networking sites.


By using them you support them.... and the more folk do the more they will continue to do it.
"They" do not "destroy" lives Malagaste, people destroy each other. Just like guns don't kill people. You said it ends marriages? Really? It causes people who normally wouldn't be adulterous to cheat? C'mon. I hope you realize how all of this sounds. There is no maliciousness in an inanimate object, and Intellectual property is an "object". If you want to know something like a phone number for an address, all you have to do is go to the town hall and request the information. A friend of mine who sells Avon uses this technique along with social media and it increases business. It's not a bad thing. No children are being exploited because of social media. People who are sickos existed long before the computer was invented.
 
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Facebook is Evil. I refuse to use it. I'll never have a Facebook account. Nothing angers me more than companies that use Facebook... Greedy crap... Yes it's "free" advertising... but at a HUGE cost. Facebook is responsible for so many ills in the world. Loss of Jobs, getting folk killed, molested, and many other things... It's easily abused and has destroyed families, ruined marriages, all sorts of things... Yet folk promote it like it's this wonderful thing. When seriously it's a tool for psychopaths to invade your life... it's a tool for those that own it to sell everything about you to anyone and everyone with ZERO regard to who's using it or what they are using it for.

I find it disgusting and disturbing. And I refuse to use it or promote it. I can not understand why anyone would. I hear folk say all the time it's a way for friends and family to stay connected... but seriously there are better ways that are far more secure...

Did you know that everytime you post a picture to Facebook from your phone it posts the location of where that picture was taken??? And sick people can use that to know exactly where you go. They can track your CHILD to where they play, what school they go to and much more. It's sickening. Yet folk promote it like it's the most wonderful amazing thing. If you don't believe me there was a Dateline special about it.

And people make it easier and easier for others to get information about you that you seriously don't want them to have.

Personally, I think Facebook has reduced the danger to children in some ways. For example, the creepy people can just look at the kids Facebook page instead of having to actually find them in person to see them. Although stalking kids on Facebook is still very creepy, the child is not in any danger because of it unless the person then wants to find them in person. If Facebook did not exist, the creepy person would be forced to find the child in real life to see them, which would then greatly increase the chances of something dangerous happening because the creepy person is so close to them and may not be able to control themselves.

As for Facebook destroying marriages....no it doesn't.....people have always cheated in relationships since the beginning of time, the only difference is Facebook causes them to get caught a couple years sooner. They would still be cheating in their relationship, and they would still get caught eventually whether Facebook was involved or not.

Are the companies who make medicine "evil" because people sometimes use that medicine to overdose and kill themselves? No, of course not.

Is Facebook evil because some people use it to harm others, no of course not. Just like every other company on the planet, they are providing a service. If people abuse that service or use it in a way that it was not intended to be used it doesn't mean the company should be blamed for what the person who abused their product did.

If people post too much about their lives on Facebook, that's their own fault. It's pretty simple, if someone doesn't want their information and pictures to be looked at....then just don't post the information or pictures. Facebook doesn't force people to post their information online for everyone to see....the people do that voluntarily.
 

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"They" do not "destroy" lives Malagaste, people destroy each other. Just like guns don't kill people. You said it ends marriages? Really? It causes people who normally wouldn't be adulterous to cheat? C'mon. I hope you realize how all of this sounds. There is no maliciousness in an inanimate object, and Intellectual property is an "object". If you want to know something like a phone number for an address, all you have to do is go to the town hall and request the information. A friend of mine who sells Avon uses this technique along with social media and it increases business. It's not a bad thing. No children are being exploited because of social media. People who are sickos existed long before the computer was invented.
You tell yourself whatever you want. IMO Facebook is Evil and I will NOT support it.

Just like I don't own Guns, Do drugs and all that other crap. But I do KNOW that predators USE Facebook and other social media to find and lure their victims. Facebook makes it EASY for them.

I will not support Facebook.
 

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You tell yourself whatever you want. IMO Facebook is Evil and I will NOT support it.

Just like I don't own Guns, Do drugs and all that other crap. But I do KNOW that predators USE Facebook and other social media to find and lure their victims. Facebook makes it EASY for them.

I will not support Facebook.
First of all Facebook has an age requirement to use. If you are a decent parent you are monitoring your children's use of the internet. There are far better ways for predators to "lure their victims". If you have a good parenting Facebook is a non-issue. There are privacy settings. No one can see anything you don't want them to see. My entire family uses facebook, it is a good way to keep in touch we are not drug addict satan worshipers.

Facebook is not evil. Facebook does not have emotions, it is not a being with intents. Facebook is not alive. It cannot be good or evil. It is a communication device just like the telephone. To imply that it is a living entity with emotions, feelings, intents, or ideas is more than a little bit worrisome. Facebook isn't any more alive than the video game this forum is about. It is not "the devil" or "evil". Perhaps you shouldn't give it so much of your emotions.
 

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First of all Facebook has an age requirement to use. If you are a decent parent you are monitoring your children's use of the internet. There are far better ways for predators to "lure their victims". If you have a good parenting Facebook is a non-issue. There are privacy settings. No one can see anything you don't want them to see. My entire family uses facebook, it is a good way to keep in touch we are not drug addict satan worshipers.

Facebook is not evil. Facebook does not have emotions, it is not a being with intents. Facebook is not alive. It cannot be good or evil. It is a communication device just like the telephone. To imply that it is a living entity with emotions, feelings, intents, or ideas is more than a little bit worrisome. Facebook isn't any more alive than the video game this forum is about. It is not "the devil" or "evil". Perhaps you shouldn't give it so much of your emotions.
By my use of "Facebook" I'm talking about the Company and those who run it.... PEOPLE... People who created it... People who run it. I'm not referring to the webpage... as that is a bunch of code... code which is NOT as secure as you think it is.

Facebook is something created to make money... to gather information about you and sell it. To target market crap to you... taking away jobs from folk ... And as far as I'm concerned those that run Facebook have little to NO regard for the safety of anyone using it.

And while you think that it is "safe" and the Privacy settings are there to protect you or kids... those privacy settings have been circumvented millions of times. And they were only put into place AFTER a great amount of damage was already done and lives were LOST.

You can sit there and tell yourself whatever lies you want to feel comfortable about supporting Facebook... but I and MANY others will continue to "speak out" against Facebook ... and I will continue to stand by my conviction against it's use.

My family knows where I am if they want to "keep in touch" with me they don't need some stupid website. I can keep up on the lives of my family without it.
 

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Whether you're a Facebook or Twitter fan or can't stand either, you might want to check out David Egger's satirical work of fiction, The Circle.
 

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Facebook isnt evil, the notion that it is is absurd. It exists as an online social networking tool and is therefore incapable of 'being' evil.

Why the hell any sane adult would want a facebook account however is beyond me. What the fascination of living your life out in such a public way is, or for that matter following how other people live out their lives, escapes me. I always laugh when people tell me they have "400 friends" on facebook. No you dont. If you never saw 90% of them ever again then you probably wouldnt give it a second though. They arent friends.

Facebook may not be evil, but is a ridiculous thing for any well adjusted adult to want to be a part of. Feel free to tell me how Im wrong if youve got time once youve finished posting a picture of the salad you had for dinner for your 400 friends to see. Oh the fun never ends on facebook.
 

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for everyone making fun of data collection, its a real problem. yes the notion that "facebook will kill you" is absurd, but its a real risk and decision for everyone to make how much they value personal privacy.

this is very real
https://nsa.gov1.info/utah-data-center/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

http://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
http://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
yes i have a facebook page tho i rarely use it, no i dont wear a tin foil hat. stuff like this should scare any reasonable person just a little.
 
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