as long as there's beer, I'm in!And you keep saying it is about Event items when it has been stated over and over that it wasn't/hasn't been.
Anyways... I'm going bowling. Who wants to go!
PEACE!
as long as there's beer, I'm in!And you keep saying it is about Event items when it has been stated over and over that it wasn't/hasn't been.
Anyways... I'm going bowling. Who wants to go!
PEACE!
The only ones complaining are the ones that attend EM Events on all shards, then sell the drops....lets call it what it is.And you keep saying it is about Event items when it has been stated over and over that it wasn't/hasn't been
Sad thing is they are so brazen they don't even bother trying to deny this is about greed, and I said many of the same things I just chose to do it much, much less diplomatically. Yes one person who handles all requests, to be hired exactly 17 years after UO goes live on steamYou tagged her and the others Devs in the thread, might as well have sent an email.
i think there is. I know on Catskills alone theres player run events very frequently. Im pretty sure Catskills alone could provide a schedule comparable in time requirement as a "standard" EM position. If anything, the job will probably be slighly more demanding than a regular EM, especially the EMs that currently only do 1 event a month.Is there really enough work for a full time person to do player run events?
She didn't email me recently. I said over a year ago she emailed me back. (or atleast it's what it should be, there could be a typo) This is my last post as I am running late. lolI'm confused. Alex, you said you didn't send her an email. So why is she emailing you about this?
I emailed Mesanna over two months ago, when a game bug cost me the loss of, among other items, 3 shard shields, and the GM response was useless. I have had no response. Yet she's able to find time to private emailing players - who are not Broadsword employees - regarding actions taken by EMs, who *are* Broadsword employees? Especially when you say you didn't email her first? Color me confused.
Those claims were kept private and emailed to the people it should be addressed to. It was others like yourself who brought it up trying to connect the incident with the player events issue.The last thread erupted into CLAIMS of EM's lying during events about drops and lying about drops yet you keep saying it isn't about the drops.
Lets see:Those claims were kept private and emailed to the people it should be addressed to. It was others like yourself who brought it up trying to connect the incident with the player events issue.
https://stratics.com/community/threads/player-event.332649/#post-2503199Seems the EM's on Chessy have gotten themselves in quite a mess
1) Lying to their own players regarding those even swords. Told the players that is was an accident and it was a mistake when in reality, they requested the swords to be unequipped. Thus, making more work on Mesanna.
2) Obviously showing favoritism at the last event when it was a stealing event. Only a select few got all the drops. They entertained the crowd for 2 hours while those select few went and stole all the items.
3) Now spawning event mobs at Player events when EM's are clearly told not to do such a thing.
When I was apart of Toad Town, we ran events for over 5 years. We have asked repeatedly for an EM spawned mob or for things to be locked down. And yes, this was for the whole shard of Atlantic. We got told no, no, no, no, no, AND NO. (Which is understandable. If it is against the rules, no way would we want our EM to break them) The only time we were able to get any help would be at the three Rares Festivals we held where Mesanna herself locked down 5 metal chests for an event of mine. Not once did we get a mob or anything like that. It really irritates me that some EM's either ignore or show direct favoritism when it comes to their powers.
Yes, they may be good at story line, but in my opinion, when an EM lies to their players, selects a few out from a crowd of 40+ to get the drop, and then shows favoritism regarding player events.... all in itself tells the true characteristics of that EM.
Don't worry whoever Mesanna hires will still favor LocalsWHY NOT EMS ???
THEY KNOW THE SHARD
And these should be requests that are granted, within reason, on every shard.ALLS WEES ASKED FER WAS OME MOBS, AND AFEW CHESTS LOCKED DOWN. LOCKED DOWN FOR DECO, BEACUSE OB CRAZY RECAY RATE
BYW
They are there to do EM Events.wait...what are the EM's for? aren't they for the players?
OK we are getting closer now. just waiting for one of y'all to have the stones to come out and say it.They are there to do EM Events.
I agree - that should be the case and it is what people should be asking for. But because certain EMs seem to be either unwilling or unable to do that some people here have demanded that none of them be able to do it.And these should be requests that are granted, within reason, on every shard.
DOES THIS MEAN EMS CANNOT HELP GUBNORS EVENTS FOR THERE CITIES?Hello everyone,
I know a lot of you have been voicing your desires to have help with player events. Event Moderators have their own duties to attend to. No EM will be allowed to assist with player events but, I am going to hire one person with a title of Player Event Coordinator.
This person will be accepting events from players, I will send you their email when I hire someone and set them up. Please understand they will NOT give rewards for your events that is totally up to you as a player to provide those.
Please stay tuned to UO.COM for more details on this position.
Mesanna
PEEEEINS BEEES GOOOSWow @Mesanna goes out of her way to solve an issue and you guys piss all over it. Really?
She actually is going so far as to hire a special person just for the player run events and you guys are basically raising your middle finger at her.
I would think folks would be excited. Not throw rotten tomatoes.
PEEEEINS BEEES GOOOSWow @Mesanna goes out of her way to solve an issue and you guys piss all over it. Really?
She actually is going so far as to hire a special person just for the player run events and you guys are basically raising your middle finger at her.
I would think folks would be excited. Not throw rotten tomatoes.
she is offering a small fix that will end up to be a big problem....we don't need more problems in this game. EM's are already in place in the game...give them more control. Is this such a hard thing to do? They are already getting paidYes, gods forbid that Mesanna listens and that all the shards get an equal opportunity to get help with player events.
Is it a perfect solution? No. Is it better then her ending all help period? Yes.
Is this change in any way, shape, or form about EM drops? NO.
Quit. Your. pancakes.
This is a massive, completely unsubstantiated assumption based on nothing.she is offering a small fix that will end up to be a big problem....we don't need more problems in this game.
This would be the ideal solution. I'd much rather work with my shard's EMs as they know whats up on GL.EM's are already in place in the game...give them more control. Is this such a hard thing to do? They are already getting paid
You don't? Then you don't know me. I believe anyone who knows me at events knows that I participate and interact with the EMs outside of getting drops.I dont expect you to understand the viewpoint of someone who actually enjoys the interaction with EM's outside of getting drops
What are you talking about? You are getting basically a dedicated EM for all player run events. How can you ask for anything more than that?!show us goblins some love for once....do wees ask too mushes?
I guess so
They have more events without drops than with drops. So wait, you think you "are getting closer" by someone saying that an EM does EM Events? If Broadsword/Mesanna wanted EM's to do player events, they would have them do player events. I don't understand what is so difficult to understand.OK we are getting closer now. just waiting for one of y'all to have the stones to come out and say it.
The EM's exist only to give me a drop
I honestly, genuinely don't understand what the problem is.I respect you Flutter, I just disagree. Yes I have been trying to rattle some cages, and quite honestly I would have banned me by now. There are years of frustration here by many
Do you really think the new person is going to have much time to dedicate to Catskills when they also have twenty other shards to oversee? Also consider that this person may only be a part time employee and live outside of a North American time zone. They won't even have any kind of rapport with any of the individual shard communities either.The poor Catskills EM wouldn't have any time at all for his own creative stories if he had to deco and create spawn for every Catskills player run event. If there is any doubt you can check the Catskills player event schedule here. There are sometimes even arguments because folks on Cats accidentally run events on top of each other. Now these folks and everyone like them will be able to have someone dedicated specifically to them. The EM can still do what he was hired to do and create stories and work for X amount of hours on them (you realize they are only paid for a few hours a month right).
We used to get this kind of help with our events years ago and I am grateful that it will return once again. The promise of such help was a carrot dangled in front of us to get involved in the governor system which was a main reason that I got involved in the first place. When it became clear that this wasn't going to be the case, a lot of the early enthusiasm died out.
I love holding events even though it is difficult to compete with EM drops as prizes but at least regular communities, guilds and individuals will now get some assistance with all the hard work that they put into events for other players. I don't believe we should get prizes by any means but a gate and a few locked down items go a long way to reduce the stress and increase enjoyment of the community. Accounts are closing due to the lack of support for regular folk.
Thank you Mesanna!
This is a massive, completely unsubstantiated assumption based on nothing.
At least give it a chance to fail before stabbing it in the back.
This would be the ideal solution. I'd much rather work with my shard's EMs as they know whats up on GL.
However, for whatever reason, Mesanna chose to hire a new person (New blood for UO is a good thing!) Possibly because the EMs are only supposed to work 20 hours a week (or a month, I forget).
honestly you really think one em to do all the shards is going to be able to handle all the player events? There are ems already in place on shards. I know the ems on chessy enjoyed helping with the player events and they did want to do this goblin event but got shot down by messana. Atl alone could use more ems right now to help with just their monly events.What are you talking about? You are getting basically a dedicated EM for all player run events. How can you ask for anything more than that?!
If it even happens...Do you really think the new person is going to have much time to dedicate to Catskills when they also have twenty other shards to oversee? Also consider that this person may only be a part time employee and live outside of a North American time zone. They won't even have any kind of rapport with any of the individual shard communities either.
The proposed solution is the least efficient and will probably be even more unfair. But then that isn't what this is REALLY about.
Based on simple math actually. Count the number of shards, and the number of players on each shard wanting to organize player events, and try to figure out how in hell would ONE person be able to do it all. I fail to see how that beats having the EMs occasionally go out of their way to help players from the community they already know well.This is a massive, completely unsubstantiated assumption based on nothing.
At least give it a chance to fail before stabbing it in the back.
I guess it depends on how many requests the person gets and what rules are in place for making those requests doesn't it? I mean we haven't even seen anything regarding how many events we can ask for or what exactly this new PEC is allowed to do for us. But heck lets complain and say bad things about it anyway right?honestly you really think one em to do all the shards is going to be able to handle all the player events? There are ems already in place on shards. I know the ems on chessy enjoyed helping with the player events and they did want to do this goblin event but got shot down by messana. Atl alone could use more ems right now to help with just their monly events.
why don't you go read some of the other posts and get the facts or talk to ozog in person and get the facts...because I did. Stop your damn pancakes at me for something you have no clue about.I guess it depends on how many requests the person gets and what rules are in place for making those requests doesn't it? I mean we haven't even seen anything regarding how many events we can ask for or what exactly this new PEC is allowed to do for us. But heck lets complain and say bad things about it anyway right?
There's obviously a reason Mesanna nixed the goblen player event from the Chessy EMs schedule. Just because you don't know the reason doesn't mean it wasn't a good one. For all we know the EMs could have been over their hours or something. They do tend to run events on the long side. Seriously I think if it were our business we'd already know. Either way they couldn't do it, we say thank you anyway and move on.
My thought was they set up an event for a player group or whatever ie place some deco etc for the event they don't NEED to attend said events they just have to set it up... take it down.And one more thing...about the *This new person doesn't know my shard so how are they going to do events*
They don't have to know...they are there to COORDINATE with the player or players running the event.
For example....I want to do a *Walking Dead* type event....and I would love to have a hoarde of zombies invade my event...so I send in a request...the PEC spawns said zombies and is done...they don't have to know the history of my shard or it's people.
Exactly.For example....I want to do a *Walking Dead* type event....and I would love to have a hoarde of zombies invade my event...so I send in a request...the PEC spawns said zombies and is done...they don't have to know the history of my shard or it's people.