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So I tried to give the EC another shot....

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And this is what I see. Meh (supposed to be animated water) =/

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I'm not gonna lie. i really like the features of the new client and pincos is really well thought out. problem for me is the graphics give me a headache after a while.
Might try adjusting the zoom level,I know this helps many people! also try disabling walking sound I know a few people this helped also!
 

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It's an event item, supposed to be "rolling waves", not flowing lava? hehe
 

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I have never seen it do that1 where is that? also I like the pic of the EC lions rear end better than the cc in cc it looks all wrinkled
We don't have lions in game that I'm aware of. :p
 

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Yes the zoom and size to be set to optimum makes a big difference. The macro is very simple to make to get it to the proper zoom.

http://stratics.com/community/threads/command-scripts.149410/

Post #6 on that page explains what to put in the command line of the macro script. I changed mine and it sure did make a difference.
This doesn't work for over 4 years now.
Here's the correct way to set the zoom level:

http://stratics.com/community/threads/guide-to-set-better-picture-quality-post-26-march-2010.187692/

It might also be a good practice to turn off zooming with the mouse wheel. Otherwise you might change that freshly calculated zoom setting accidentally.
 

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I believe all of this should be fixed in the new default Ui
 

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im not gonna lie. i really like the features of the new client and pincos is really well thought out. problem for me is the graphics give me a headache after a while.
Agreed. It may be for the best however as if we ever got Pincos with the CC, I might never leave the house.
 

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Whatever.. everybody who is honest to himself should realize there are always pros and cons. As if every single bit of the CC was sugar. So is the EC :bdh:
 

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You place a water tile on the roof of a castle and expect it to look like water - Phefft. Place it in a custom house over water and look at it.

Seriously the CC needs to just be &$#!@*$ dropped and none of this crap would be posted.
 

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The OP was a valid question I truly have not seen this with my tiles?1! but let us not get into a CC vs EC battle ...please please :) both have there good and bad points..to each their own I say!
 

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I think the zoom level issue has been fixed in a previous patch. Pressing the * key will return it to the correct zoom level. It was horrible before as it was zoomed in to much so everything looked very pixelated.
 

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Because there'd be like 10 players left. Who'd even be around to post?
In the last State of UO address, Bonnie said half of players use EC.

Maybe if people would stop living in the late 90's with the 2D joke client, the developers would have more incentive to make EC better.
 

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all the white lava tiles from the primevil lich area show up red in the enhanced client instead of white like they're supposed to be
 

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all the white lava tiles from the primevil lich area show up red in the enhanced client instead of white like they're supposed to be
hmm I wonder if this has to do with the current publish we waiting on ? if after this goes live and it still does this make a bug report and I will approve it right away
 

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In the last State of UO address, Bonnie said half of players use EC.

Maybe if people would stop living in the late 90's with the 2D joke client, the developers would have more incentive to make EC better.
Maybe if you don't like the game's client, REAL client, you should run along back to WoW or whatever shiny thing you'd rather be playing.
 

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all the white lava tiles from the primevil lich area show up red in the enhanced client instead of white like they're supposed to be
This is true and in the EC if you have your circle of transparency on most animated anythings vanish. I haven't seen my fountains of life in years.
 

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...

The biggest problem with the EC is that they have not finished and released a high resolution version that handles the zoom features well enough. After that, it's just a matter of dealing with specific issues such as the one presented in this thread.

640x480 native graphics just do not work well in a 1920x1080 world.
 

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In the last State of UO address, Bonnie said half of players use EC.

Maybe if people would stop living in the late 90's with the 2D joke client, the developers would have more incentive to make EC better.
and the other half use the classic client.
 

The Zog historian

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Yeah cause every time I run the EC I think I've turned on a TV by mistake! They're all cartoonish :)
You know what I meant. The EC attempts to make textures random in an effort to seem "natural," but as I said, the colors are too washed out. I more than dislike how my houses look in the EC.
 

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In the last State of UO address, Bonnie said half of players use EC.

Maybe if people would stop living in the late 90's with the 2D joke client, the developers would have more incentive to make EC better.
Really, a "2D joke client"? It seemed to be just fine for a lot of old-timers who may use the EC predominantly today but loved the game with the classic. If you haven't been around long enough to have played UO prior to the EC, I find it hard to believe that you started playing because of the EC graphics and not the game.

You're presuming that the other half would migrate over. Some of us love the game, but not that much. Don't you realize that enough of us would not, and EA might just decide with the subscription drop to pull the plug completely?
 

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I use the EC for house building. Other than that, I don't like it. :mylittlepony:
 

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Really, a "2D joke client"? It seemed to be just fine for a lot of old-timers who may use the EC predominantly today but loved the game with the classic. If you haven't been around long enough to have played UO prior to the EC, I find it hard to believe that you started playing because of the EC graphics and not the game.

You're presuming that the other half would migrate over. Some of us love the game, but not that much. Don't you realize that enough of us would not, and EA might just decide with the subscription drop to pull the plug completely?
I'd play elsewhere if I were forced to go EC. No doubt.
 

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Really, a "2D joke client"? It seemed to be just fine for a lot of old-timers who may use the EC predominantly today but loved the game with the classic. If you haven't been around long enough to have played UO prior to the EC, I find it hard to believe that you started playing because of the EC graphics and not the game.

You're presuming that the other half would migrate over. Some of us love the game, but not that much. Don't you realize that enough of us would not, and EA might just decide with the subscription drop to pull the plug completely?
I forgot that people on Classic Client are allowed to criticize the Enhanced Client, but people on Enhanced Client aren't allowed to criticize Classic Client without hearing the same song and dance about how the old-timers would quit and the game would die. Waaaaahhhh!!! #DERP
 

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I forgot that people on Classic Client are allowed to criticize the Enhanced Client, but people on Enhanced Client aren't allowed to criticize Classic Client without hearing the same song and dance about how the old-timers would quit and the game would die. Waaaaahhhh!!! #DERP
You can criticize, but you're wrong.
 

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Maybe if you don't like the game's client, REAL client, you should run along back to WoW or whatever shiny thing you'd rather be playing.
Maybe if the people who've been using the same client since the Clinton Presidency would move on and accept some changes, the developers would have the incentive to put together a better package that would attract more new players. Sorry I moved on from the 1990's and you haven't.
 

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You can criticize, but you're wrong.
Oh okay... everyone on classic is right, and everyone on enhanced is wrong. Please enlighten us with more of your deep insights.
 
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I forgot that people on Classic Client are allowed to criticize the Enhanced Client, but people on Enhanced Client aren't allowed to criticize Classic Client without hearing the same song and dance about how the old-timers would quit and the game would die. Waaaaahhhh!!! #DERP
Maybe if the people who've been using the same client since the Clinton Presidency would move on and accept some changes, the developers would have the incentive to put together a better package that would attract more new players. Sorry I moved on from the 1990's and you haven't.
Oh okay... everyone on classic is right, and everyone on enhanced is wrong. Please enlighten us with more of your deep insights.
Stop replying with straw men, and you might be able to make a point someday. Who ever said that nobody is allowed to criticize the CC? Show us.

Maybe if the EC were not so ugly, from textures to how our 17-year-old characters look to how things look in a backpack, and if it had a few things the CC and UOA have, then you might have a reason to tell us to "move on." Do you honestly think that the EC is anything that would lure new players?
 

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Stop replying with straw men, and you might be able to make a point someday. Who ever said that nobody is allowed to criticize the CC? Show us.

Maybe if the EC were not so ugly, from textures to how our 17-year-old characters look to how things look in a backpack, and if it had a few things the CC and UOA have, then you might have a reason to tell us to "move on." Do you honestly think that the EC is anything that would lure new players?

So when someone says "you can criticize but you're wrong", I'm to take that as it being welcomed to support EC? Did you read the thread, Zog?

CC is far more ugly than EC, in my humble opinion. The backpack is FAR SUPERIOR in EC. Being able to view things in grid form or by name is alot easier.... AND you can switch it to classic backpack view in EC if you so wish to do so.

EC may not be leaps and bounds better than CC in terms of grpahics, but its interface is more modern (somewhat) and new player friendly. Look at how you react to people critcizing CC in favor of EC... if they launched a truly modern client 3d client, the same people that use CC would cry foul about every feature and threaten to quit, citing their multi years of service playing the game.

The obessession with CC is pathetic. I played it when I was back in middle school, 15 years ago. Its by far one of the biggest aspects holding the game back. The aversion to change regarding the CC v. EC debate is really a joke.
 

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I read the title to this thread over and over, and all I could think of was

"Two game clients walk into a bar..."
 

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UO is like crack no matter what flavor it comes in. Those that say they would quit would be back for their fix in no time. Those that spout about the many Koolaid colors of WOW just wont admit they have a UO problem. Even if the game was reduced to those 10 players nothing would change. I'm sure those 9 other players are the ones I don't have on CHAT ignore.
 

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Oh, here's the next round of where you ignore what everyone else said, and make up more straw men.

So when someone says "you can criticize but you're wrong", I'm to take that as it being welcomed to support EC? Did you read the thread, Zog?
I did, but clearly you didn't. What Aran said was not to say you couldn't criticize. Your quote right there even says so.

CC is far more ugly than EC, in my humble opinion. The backpack is FAR SUPERIOR in EC. Being able to view things in grid form or by name is alot easier.... AND you can switch it to classic backpack view in EC if you so wish to do so.
That's your opinion. Nobody ever said you couldn't have it. However, there are a lot of currently active, long-term players besides me who can't stand it. You may like the "grid form," but even in the classic view, the artwork for everything from runes to spellbooks is too pixelated for those of us who, you know, have been playing since before the EC. You may be used to it since you never played the CC exclusively, but there are still those of us playing for a long time who can't bear the terrible graphics for daily play.

EC may not be leaps and bounds better than CC in terms of grpahics, but its interface is more modern (somewhat) and new player friendly. Look at how you react to people critcizing CC in favor of EC...
Even with Pinco's, lots of us find it very convoluted to create macros, and there's no ability to drag spell icons to anywhere on the screen, only to drop them on new hotbars. There's not even Ctrl-Q to cycle backward through what the character has said.

if they launched a truly modern client 3d client, the same people that use CC would cry foul about every feature and threaten to quit, citing their multi years of service playing the game.
As I already said, you might have some credibility if you stopped with the straw men. Start dealing with actual facts instead of imagining people's reactions.

The obessession with CC is pathetic. I played it when I was back in middle school, 15 years ago. Its by far one of the biggest aspects holding the game back. The aversion to change regarding the CC v. EC debate is really a joke.
So you played it once, didn't like it, played UO again with the EC, and you want to impose it on everyone?

If you think it's a joke, then why don't you apply to become a Dev, get the CC dumped, and see so many quit that you'd have no UO to play via the EC. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
 

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So when someone says "you can criticize but you're wrong", I'm to take that as it being welcomed to support EC? Did you read the thread, Zog?

CC is far more ugly than EC, in my humble opinion. The backpack is FAR SUPERIOR in EC. Being able to view things in grid form or by name is alot easier.... AND you can switch it to classic backpack view in EC if you so wish to do so.

EC may not be leaps and bounds better than CC in terms of grpahics, but its interface is more modern (somewhat) and new player friendly. Look at how you react to people critcizing CC in favor of EC... if they launched a truly modern client 3d client, the same people that use CC would cry foul about every feature and threaten to quit, citing their multi years of service playing the game.

The obessession with CC is pathetic. I played it when I was back in middle school, 15 years ago. Its by far one of the biggest aspects holding the game back. The aversion to change regarding the CC v. EC debate is really a joke.
the irony of this post though is that the release of the new user interface is on monday and there's a good chance we'll get all these "features" that he's using to say that the EC is better - won't that just be precious if it happens :)

(already got this picture in the bull pen warming up - hehe)

 
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