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Atlantic down again - Can we get an explanation on what is going on?

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Lefty

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Why all the server downs and lag spikes? I hope we could just get an explanation on what is going on. Atlantic is the most populated shard.
 

jrede23

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Most likely dupers being idiots. However this sucks for all of us cuz we get punished. My advice to everyone, is if you have xferred anything to atl in the last two-3 weeks, xfer it off today. Last time they did a revert everyone who xferred to atl lost everything, everyone who xferred off got double. If they did a two week revert today, I'd lose 15 bill in items. So im freaking out and xferring everything off today proactively just in case. They wont give you a heads up because losing everything is better business to these people than you potentially getting double items. So do what you will, but two xfers for 100 mil are better to me than potentially losing billions
 

uo player

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somewhere in that last revert I lost 50k clean up points. :mad: the revert took my points away but didn't give my item's I trashed back :rant2: Hey dev's, show some courtesy to your paying customers and make a damn statement on the issue at hand!!!
 

Smoot

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We are investigating the issue.
PLEASE do not revert a few weeks. People will leave the game in droves, including myself. raresfest was last week. everyone transferred rares and gold back to atlantic. if the game is reverted more than a day or two there will be chaos that i doubt the game will be able to recover from. If it has something to do with duping, keep in mind people realize whats happening now and if there is fear of a revert, Trillions worth of gold and items will probably be duped by people transfering gold and valuables off atlantic in hopes of recovering losses, or purely for gain.
 

jrede23

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like i said xfer now if you can! everyone from rares fest Xfer off. I just xferred five packies a bank box and a pack. im on my second xfer . i xferred all this stuff this weekend. Im not losing it or all 10 accounts will be closed. They never get anything right!
 

jrede23

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it is seriously messed up though how the people who run this game think. They don't punish the newbie accounts that are duping, cuz they dont lose anything they just start up the next day on another new account. They punish us and dont give us fair warning that theres a revert and dont ever think things through. Wasting hours of my day today praying I don't lose all my hard earned items.
 

Warpig Inc

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I would like to start a signing list for all homeowners on a shard to be able to yearly vote if shard transfers can happen on their shard. There should be just a shard that all standard shard characters can transfer to freely but only can return to there home shard. Trade at will. Characters created on the free shard cannot transfer (someone needs to own auction houses there). Shard shield owners can get there pick back per shield or hold out in hopes of having a unique rare after the offer is over. Shard transfers, Soulstones and Spineless GMs have done nothing good for the game.
 

Captn Norrington

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I haven't been playing lately so haven't been affected by this yet, but please do not do a revert more than a few days...after the large december 2012 revert 50+ people from my guild alone quit the game, none have returned...the game lost hundreds of players because of that, another large revert could damage the game quite badly.
 

Jade of Sonoma

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I was about to try a Xfer to Atlantic for the first time, but after reading this, I have second thoughts. What a mess!
 

WootSauce

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I would like to start a signing list for all homeowners on a shard to be able to yearly vote if shard transfers can happen on their shard. There should be just a shard that all standard shard characters can transfer to freely but only can return to there home shard. Trade at will. Characters created on the free shard cannot transfer (someone needs to own auction houses there). Shard shield owners can get there pick back per shield or hold out in hopes of having a unique rare after the offer is over. Shard transfers, Soulstones and Spineless GMs have done nothing good for the game.

WUT?
 

Cyrah

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Is duping really the cause? If so then what good did the last revert do? If the same thing is happening again?

I just do not understand why duping even is allowed to happen. :(
 

Voodoo Bad Mojo

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duping wouldn't cause the servers to keep going down.
lets use our heads a little here people.

probably just a bad board somewhere that needs to be replaced.
keep in mind its a long weekend to boot.
i know where i work out tablets have been down all weekend with the predicted fix for tomorrow, and its not like out computers are important.... its only peoples emergency medical files and patient care reports.
 

claudia-fjp

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duping wouldn't cause the servers to keep going down.
lets use our heads a little here people.
You have it backwards, the servers to go down causing the duping, not the other way around. In the past dupers have used exploits to crash shards after they transfer off, which is why people suspect that is what is happening now.
 

CovenantX

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You have it backwards, the servers to go down causing the duping, not the other way around. In the past dupers have used exploits to crash shards after they transfer off, which is why people suspect that is what is happening now.
Correct.

The problem is, if the servers are going down, its probably caused by the players who are duping (because they'd have to know when it's going down to do so.)

I find it interesting that it's Atlantic going down the all the time though, it doesn't mean someone is duping it could be something totally unrelated to duping.
coincidentally just after rares-fest... so it's probably safe to assume items are getting duped.

one issue caused by ~60%+ of the entire UO population plays on Atlantic.

Lets just hope they are able to correct the issue, and if necessary ban the accounts associated with it.
 

Cyrah

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Maybe this time the devs took it down to fix it. It could happen :).
 

jrede23

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Well last time this same thing happened and then it went down for a long time and when it came back up it was reverted to two weeks prior, it was last december (2012) i believe. I'm safe now got everything off of atl just in case. Prolly wasted 200 mil in xfer tokens including going back but that is life of a UO player at the mercy of people who probably never even graduated high school. What they should have done last time was to revert all shards two weeks so no one would lose anything transferred. However I find myself freaking out now because if they do that this time, it means that I lose my freshly placed castle that I sat at for 2 hours for the hundreth time and finally got lucky. Ah well, ppl who don't cheat get the short end of the stick like always.
 

Lefty

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Maybe I am behind the times with the current slang use of hamsters, however what I did Google I did find it to be a very racist term.
 

Cyrah

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Would someone please try to access the accounts management page please. After I put in my email and password it just sits on "waiting for ea accounts". It never goes to the my account page.

I had issues before and fixed them, now this happens. :(
 

4gregu

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We are investigating the issue.
Can we get an update? I realize we don't need to know the exact details of every little thing you guys do, but I would hope that 24 hours is more than enough time to at least come up with SOMETHING you could tell us.
 

Cyrah

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Why would there have to be a 23 day revert again? Why was it 23 days? Random number or had meaning?
How did that revert help? Okay some people did quiet well after it. Most did not.

How long after the daily shard crashes did the 23 day revert take place? I do not think another long Atlantic revert will end well.
It will not for me I am afraid.

If cheaters are causing the crashes, find their accounts please. I know you can. :)
 

Promathia

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Why would there have to be a 23 day revert again? Why was it 23 days? Random number or had meaning?
How did that revert help? Okay some people did quiet well after it. Most did not.

How long after the daily shard crashes did the 23 day revert take place? I do not think another long Atlantic revert will end well.
It will not for me I am afraid.

If cheaters are causing the crashes, find their accounts please. I know you can. :)
The last revert happened because stuff got corrupted and that was the only backup they had.
 

Cyrah

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The last revert happened because stuff got corrupted and that was the only backup they had.
Oh! I did not know, thank you! How far do you think they have backed up now? In time?
So this is why they are reverting the small amounts of time now? That gives me hope.
 

Lady Storm

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99 chances out of 100 its most likely a hardware issue.
Software we all would be going down... and other shard outside of lag issues are free from the down parascope routine of atl.

Ah and just saw the Dev are taking it down tomorrow.... last time we got a hamster out of the deal......
I still say someone left out a chocolate and the silly thing pigggied out... you know what chocolate does to pets.....
 

old gypsy

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The fur seems to be flying tonight. I don't play on Atlantic, but I empathize since I know I'd be upset if these crashes were happening on my shard. Fortunately, the announcement has been made that they are taking down Atlantic tomorrow for a fix. Certainly that will be a tremendous relief for all players affected. Other than that, I'd like to add one thought regarding a statement made by one poster, that "ATL is UO"... regardless of how populated and busy Atlantic may be, the other shards and all the players who love those shards are equally important to UO. It would be nice to see some of the claws retracted. Just saying.
 

Great DC

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LOL, Oh gawd my billions of already duped gold that I use to buy worthless pixels. *hands out lots of tissues and invests in kleenex stock*
 

Rieley

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somewhere in that last revert I lost 50k clean up points. :mad: the revert took my points away but didn't give my item's I trashed back :rant2: Hey dev's, show some courtesy to your paying customers and make a damn statement on the issue at hand!!!
Key Words!!!!!!!!!!!!!show some courtesy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

AtlanticRealtor

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Yes, Down Again, No explanations, No excuses, I guess We can start to ask them for a 30 Day Code for all these troubles that WE are having and There is no explanations at All from Anyone from UO/EA whatever new Company!!!!
We are the ones losing out time either crafting something or selling something ....
 
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