And on the flip side of the coin unpaid for bugged houses do exist and are our business because we are still around forking over money to EA. You don't need to jump all over everyone when they try to get bugged housing fixed like you did back when we were trying to get the whole Return to Brit mess cleaned up.
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So true.... they really need to restart dropping the bugged ones again.....and not listen to the mass panic that happened before....and yes ....paid for houses ...even if they are empty plots will stay...thats because they are paid for!!! simple ... but the many other unnamed and classic styles that litter the lands need to be erased ...=all of them this time!!
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I hate to burst your bubbles kiddos but the dev have been dropping them as they work other projects.
Yes its not as fast as you want or you think we need.
Have you turned in the locations of the houses you feel are suspect?
I also have a quetion for you.... why is it soo important to you that these houses go quickly...
I question your motives..
Yes its not as fast as you want or you think we need.
Have you turned in the locations of the houses you feel are suspect?
I also have a quetion for you.... why is it soo important to you that these houses go quickly...
I question your motives..
Im not in a hurry for the devs to drop the houses
my motive is OMG!!! once the devs drop the house all the stuff gets deleted
* cringes just thinking about it*
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If you'd bother to read previous posts in this thread you'll find that we are in fact already aware of this so you cannot burst our bubbles by restating what we have already said.
Who the heck do you think you are questioning us about how WE play the game we pay for or OUR private motives?
To quote a babbling loonie on Stratics "We the people of UO have rights... to privacy and peace of mind."
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That's 30 minutes of my life I will never get back.
"Dormant Houses in Luna"
There was a very nice house on Pacific which I watched for years which seemed Dormant. Had two empty vendors on it, Every once in awhile it went to the decompose phase and would renew.
I paged a GM regarding the property and they verified it was a paid account.
Darsus I have talked to and likes collecting plots but is not interested in selling any. (Yep if you spend a few years researching you can even find him) He might have moved on to Bitcoin
I can't tell you how many old houses I have tracked down the owners of over the years, other shards, just taking time off, etc. Put some effort into it if you want a house and over time you will see success
As far as I am concerned if they are paying for a lot, Its fine with me whatever they do with it. I am not a fan of the pay once every 3 months program but, those people are working a system and reality is that it is a form of game play. I pay my accounts every month.
oh an that very nice house on Pacific finally dropped after years lol Dang it I missed it.
Could have been one of those accounts on auto renew the exp date on the credit card might have caught up with that.
all I can do is thank them for supporting a game I love.
Seriously this thread has reduced itself to pointless conversation. Lets all move on and if you find a house you think is abandoned or glitched report it. Take the time to page a GM, or sit the house and watch for a player.
This game takes effort no mater what your game play is.
*Stokes fire and settles back down to a glass of Good ole Moonglow Red*
That's 30 minutes of my life I will never get back.
"Dormant Houses in Luna"
There was a very nice house on Pacific which I watched for years which seemed Dormant. Had two empty vendors on it, Every once in awhile it went to the decompose phase and would renew.
I paged a GM regarding the property and they verified it was a paid account.
Darsus I have talked to and likes collecting plots but is not interested in selling any. (Yep if you spend a few years researching you can even find him) He might have moved on to Bitcoin
I can't tell you how many old houses I have tracked down the owners of over the years, other shards, just taking time off, etc. Put some effort into it if you want a house and over time you will see success
As far as I am concerned if they are paying for a lot, Its fine with me whatever they do with it. I am not a fan of the pay once every 3 months program but, those people are working a system and reality is that it is a form of game play. I pay my accounts every month.
oh an that very nice house on Pacific finally dropped after years lol Dang it I missed it.
Could have been one of those accounts on auto renew the exp date on the credit card might have caught up with that.
all I can do is thank them for supporting a game I love.
Seriously this thread has reduced itself to pointless conversation. Lets all move on and if you find a house you think is abandoned or glitched report it. Take the time to page a GM, or sit the house and watch for a player.
This game takes effort no mater what your game play is.
*Stokes fire and settles back down to a glass of Good ole Moonglow Red*
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thats kewl if the Dev got rid of the 90 day from the billing oh we would have a super house dropping all right...... then less than a month later EA would anounce that UO was ending and they would shut the machines off and the whole of mythic devoted to our game would ether be shuffled off to other games or given a pink slip....Think i am joking?
We are walking a fine knifes edge as it is... account wise... If not for the combined money EA brings in from our spending and hard as it might be to do so at the UOSTORE we generate enough to keep their tight fists off our game.
Those 90 dayers you so grumble about are still paying money to EA, yea i know its not as much as you but every penny keeps the EA Death Deamon from cutting the cord on UO.
Those who have been having billing trouble with the account management can tell you its been hell to keep up with its shananagans.
Those who are still trying to get it to work would loose the bettle in under 7 days.... as houses would fall like rain...
Worst off those poor devils WANT to pay EA...
Servicemen and women who are away from game play would loose out.... if someone forgot and they didnt have that 90 day leeway to correct it.
Yes I know you want more idoc's but think this out.. Every customized house..is a single account that is lost to the game....
Those RTB houses might be a stick in your craw pain in the arse but you also are like demons rubbing your hands and not caring that what you seek to happen will if done will have profound effects to the game at large.
Now i agree the bugged and RTB's need to go...
that said
I also hear alot of saber rattleing at houses that you feel should go too
Watch what you wish for... you just might get it and in that process kill off whats left of UO.
I had to reread the thread to see what and who you are ranting about now. No one even suggested getting rid of the 90 day grace period... Someone said they were fine with it. Did you read "I'm fine with the 90 day grace period." as "Get rid of the 90 day grace period and burn all of Lady Storms houses to the ground and take all her guns!"?
Think i am joking?
We are walking a fine knifes edge as it is... account wise... If not for the combined money EA brings in from our spending and hard as it might be to do so at the UOSTORE we generate enough to keep their tight fists off our game.
Those 90 dayers you so grumble about are still paying money to EA, yea i know its not as much as you but every penny keeps the EA Death Deamon from cutting the cord on UO.
Those who have been having billing trouble with the account management can tell you its been hell to keep up with its shananagans.
Those who are still trying to get it to work would loose the bettle in under 7 days.... as houses would fall like rain...
Worst off those poor devils WANT to pay EA...
Servicemen and women who are away from game play would loose out.... if someone forgot and they didnt have that 90 day leeway to correct it.
Yes I know you want more idoc's but think this out.. Every customized house..is a single account that is lost to the game....
Those RTB houses might be a stick in your craw pain in the arse but you also are like demons rubbing your hands and not caring that what you seek to happen will if done will have profound effects to the game at large.
Now i agree the bugged and RTB's need to go...
that said
I also hear alot of saber rattleing at houses that you feel should go too
Watch what you wish for... you just might get it and in that process kill off whats left of UO.
How will dropping the ''none paid for account bugged houses'' effect the game IN ANY WAY ??? thats total poppycock!!!
Nevermind the threat of ending UO.....''the accounts of these bugged houses are not paid for''....Only EA /mythic now for certain how many subscriptions they receive ...and i can tell u for one..... they will never tell you.... as it would start the mass panic again!!....
UO will continue while ever they make a small profit....thats simple ...and yes yes yes ....if we have to shrink down the games worlds to save costs then....yes yes yes it will happen... make less sense each post u make....
Nevermind the threat of ending UO.....''the accounts of these bugged houses are not paid for''....Only EA /mythic now for certain how many subscriptions they receive ...and i can tell u for one..... they will never tell you.... as it would start the mass panic again!!....
UO will continue while ever they make a small profit....thats simple ...and yes yes yes ....if we have to shrink down the games worlds to save costs then....yes yes yes it will happen... make less sense each post u make....
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As long as you pay for your account, you have every right to sit on a 100% abandoned Luna house that does nothing for anyone besides gathers dust.
On the flipside, rest of the community has every right to remind you of how doing so makes you a ******. Far as I can see, tis undeniable enough and I'd be surprised if there is actually somebody who challenges the point. Selfishly clinging on a Luna house, ensuring it does absolutely nothing for several years hurts Luna of your server-> It hurts the community. -> It hurts the game. ->Congratulations, you are a douchebag.
On the flipside, rest of the community has every right to remind you of how doing so makes you a ******. Far as I can see, tis undeniable enough and I'd be surprised if there is actually somebody who challenges the point. Selfishly clinging on a Luna house, ensuring it does absolutely nothing for several years hurts Luna of your server-> It hurts the community. -> It hurts the game. ->Congratulations, you are a douchebag.
You puzzle me. You are so very, very sure these accounts are not paid for - how do you know? I know of people who haven't logged in for years, but they keep paying for an account because they might want to, one day, return.
How do you tell which accounts are paid for but not used and which are, in your terms, 'bugged'? Or do you just leap to that conclusion on pure instinct?
I totally give up...yes some of the bugged houses are blatantly obvoius by just looking at the sign......BUT ALAS u have convinced yourself - like otheres have .....that every house that still stands is paid for....[whatever] ...its is xmas - time for fairytales
no, I haven't convinced myself, but you have failed to convince me that you know which ones are bugged. How are they obvious from the house sign? What's different about them?
This just in: UO is an old game, running on out-dated code and obsolete servers. Of course it's buggy. I have an account created 2 years ago, paid for 1 month, and that house - for no logical reason - is still standing. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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I convinced myself the only houses are osi owned that keep refreshing that should of fell years ago, and unpaid bugged houses out there is the ones showing no owners name on the house. Just because I convinced myself does not mean I'm right.
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There are houses around where the house sign has no house name and no owner name. These are the ones we are supposed to report so they can be removed manually. I think many of them are gone but I still see small ones around..those are the ones I considered "bugged" but obviously they are not attached to any account.
Exactly. I kept paying for almost four years, at one point realizing that I hadn't logged on any characters in six weeks, and at other points realizing I didn't remember the last time I logged in. And I'm glad I kept paying that relatively small price to keep the bits preserved.
Actually, it's "enough profit," which can be small relative to other games, but there's a certain threshold below which EA will decide that the resources are better used elsewhere. I'm surprised, and also glad, that it hasn't happened yet.
That said, I don't know how many players would quit if they couldn't keep houses through a cycle of activating and deactivating accounts. We don't know how many are doing that in the first place. EA may consider a near-third of a subscription better than none, since these are accounts that won't take server cycles.
Ermm read the posts above ..there the obvious ones to the eye....and there are others .....but no matter..believe as u will....
I don't have any set belief on the topic. I'm not all seeing and all knowing. The only thing I'm totally prepared to believe is that neither are you.
I am willing, if people wish it, to collate a list of houses which show no owner name. Send me, by email, Shard, Facet and sextant co-ordinates.
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I am willing, if people wish it, to collate a list of houses which show no owner name. Send me, by email, Shard, Facet and sextant co-ordinates.
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This thread has been... interesting. I'll say this though: I'd far rather the devs erred on the side of not dropping houses that probably should be gone rather than overzealously dropping houses that shouldn't be.
i can show some petra.. alas the devs wont act ....like they say they would....i've reported them at least twice....catch me ingame and ill start marking a couple of runebooks for ya....i never run through malas anymore [except luna and umbra road- only 2 places used ]....so will be tram/felluca only.....and these are the obvious ones.......''the unnamed and no owner'' on the sign ones.. i could show u a lot lot more...but its pointless...so i wont bother
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i would imagine a dev as the power to see wether the house is actively paid for or not....if they cant .........then god help us.....to be fair they did say ''report the unnamed /no owner ones'' - there are noramlly always classic style house btw....small wood huts to castles ive seen...for dropping but they have nver acted on ones i have sent them... so pointless to keep trying
easy way ...and the way id go about it ... reset the 90 day timer on the whole shard..all 27 of them....simple...if the house aint paid for in the next 90 days its drops
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If the devs don't drop those houses, that doesn't necessarily mean that they are ignoring you. It is likely that those houses are in fact being payed for. Perhaps those houses without owners names are just the result of the owner not logging in but still paying for the account? Can't say for sure and no one but the devs can know. Not saying don't report, but sometimes people just need to relax and not always jump to conclusions...
This isn't guessing, this is past info from Devs. Houses with no owner name listed were houses that got banned in the early years of UO. This is why 99% of them are in Fel and 100% of them are old style housing. There are no ownerless custom houses. The GMs proceeded to lose track of the houses which is why a couple years ago they requested players report them. A couple years ago I took 2 days and found every single one on my home server and sent the list of coordinated to Mesannas email as per the request. I think 2 have been dropped since but probably not from my reporting them.
Petra: The reasons we suspect some houses that give no outward sign of being bugged like the ownerless ones are the same reasons we suspected houses were bugged from Return to Brit. We were proven right about them so I'd think that would lend us some credibility. Some of us spend a majority of our time in UO IDOC hunting. Some of us for decades. I know the housing on my home server intimately.
It used to be back when MyUO Character search worked if an account was active the characters on that account showed up. Even if they weren't ever logged in. I tested it myself with my own accounts and characters. It was a handy tool to know when to not waste your time waiting for a neighbors house to fall when it was bugged. If their characters name(s) didn't show up for 4 months in a row that means the account went 120 days without being paid for or the house decaying. Sadly this no longer is an option but houses I checked from back then are still up and unchanged years later.
Another indication is nothing ever changes. Keep in mind its just an indication, sure some people don't ever log in and play. However a house with nothing in it newer than Trammel is a good sign somethings not right, or even nothing from the last 5 years or so.
Another indication is a small non grandfathered house sitting all alone in a much larger spot, even a castle spot. Do you honestly think there are that many people who are paying $10-$15 a month to NOT resize their house into a castle which is still one of the most sought after houses?
Over the years I've seen people block others at IDOCs with smaller plots. 2 years or so ago I placed a keep at a castle IDOC due to a bugged stew in the castle. I had someone (looked like a newbie character) drop a little plot behind the keep in order to block me from resizing it after GMs removed the stew. A year later the little plot is still there but a neighbors house decays and I resize the keep to a castle going a different way. Another year later that little plot that was blocking me is still there. That led me to believe that back when trial accounts could place houses, houses on those trial accounts never decayed. Who in their right mind would still be paying for that formerly blocking tiny house that is now pointless? Now think about how many people placed houses on trial accounts over the years especially back when even small houses sold for $$$. Ever notice all the old houses that say For Sale with an icq number that no one ever responds to and have been like that forever?
That's not fair! They HAVE acted, a lot of them have gone. If the house has become detached from the accounts database - as the return to Brit houses were, it's not a straightforward job to match up the house database to the accounts database.
Plus, you are asking them to take time out from actively developing the game to do this, is it REALLY that important? Somehow I don't think most players believe it is.
...... as a pvp'er would say in general chat......''good dodge''
awesome summary.....thankyou
Good Dodge??
Oh you really do have a death wish....
THP between you and Claudia's god like claims of being more knowlageable then the dev in the matter of dead on the vine houses in UO.
Petra was telling you dont go off half cocked thinking you know better.... She is quite correct the Dev have been knocking them down... I have seen many go myself personally.
Are there more to go ... sure
You want instand action to satisfy your lust for these houses to be gone from your sight.
Again I say what is your motive?
I think it is quite plain in Claudia's last posting... there is a few castle spots she has her eye on.
I am going to tell you something both of you are gunna hate....
The dev will work at their own pace.. not yours.
oh and..
I have placed plots with no sign of use, bare plots to block placement on quite a few shards over the years... you see I have patients to out wait the other to get what spot I want.
They stay bare.
Over the years I have placed many Empty plots...
Ask the guild on Napa who wanted the castle spot in front of my keep... I dropped a house in to hold it. It stayed bare for months. Till I knew it was safe to drop it for my castle.
Another plot I put in another shard i watched for weeks as they kept poping in to see if i was guna drop it so they could have their stealther catch me off guard and drop in a castle before i could. Or how i got a keep on chessy before the exodus of players... i put in a 18x18 to hold it and there too a guild had watchers to try to take it..... Plots you feel are not paid for.. just might be.
You have nerve to balk Petra ill give you that...
Oh you really do have a death wish....
THP between you and Claudia's god like claims of being more knowlageable then the dev in the matter of dead on the vine houses in UO.
Petra was telling you dont go off half cocked thinking you know better.... She is quite correct the Dev have been knocking them down... I have seen many go myself personally.
Are there more to go ... sure
You want instand action to satisfy your lust for these houses to be gone from your sight.
Again I say what is your motive?
I think it is quite plain in Claudia's last posting... there is a few castle spots she has her eye on.
I am going to tell you something both of you are gunna hate....
The dev will work at their own pace.. not yours.
oh and..
I have placed plots with no sign of use, bare plots to block placement on quite a few shards over the years... you see I have patients to out wait the other to get what spot I want.
They stay bare.
Over the years I have placed many Empty plots...
Ask the guild on Napa who wanted the castle spot in front of my keep... I dropped a house in to hold it. It stayed bare for months. Till I knew it was safe to drop it for my castle.
Another plot I put in another shard i watched for weeks as they kept poping in to see if i was guna drop it so they could have their stealther catch me off guard and drop in a castle before i could. Or how i got a keep on chessy before the exodus of players... i put in a 18x18 to hold it and there too a guild had watchers to try to take it..... Plots you feel are not paid for.. just might be.
You have nerve to balk Petra ill give you that...
I dont wanna burst your own bubble.....But i.... and i'am guessing Claudia are ''well well well aware'' of the bare plots placed on castle plot edges.....more fool someone whos prepared to pay monthly for 3-4-5 years !!! on many many plots...must add up to quite a sum of real money ???..
[mmmm or are u paying?? mmmm interesting...lets hold that thought!!!!! would be a awesome reason to wave your side of the camp.....lets hold that thought again]
.....anyways i pitty anyone paying out monthly for many plot over many years ....just for the off chance others around will fall....
Lets be frank there are bugged houses out there [set in stone]....deffo the unnamed/no owner ones....then theres the arguably fringe ones.... yes theres the ones that have deco from 2001....and then theres the ones like a single large tower sitting bang in the middlle of a castle plot...u telling me the owner prefers the tower to the instant castle he/she can place= most players end game dream!!!....then theres the small empty plots in the middle of nowere- why would you??? and then theres the OBVIOUS ''paid for'' empty plots sitting around castle placement areas/edges waiting for the keeps/towers etc inside to fall......LOL
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[mmmm or are u paying?? mmmm interesting...lets hold that thought!!!!! would be a awesome reason to wave your side of the camp.....lets hold that thought again]
.....anyways i pitty anyone paying out monthly for many plot over many years ....just for the off chance others around will fall....
Lets be frank there are bugged houses out there [set in stone]....deffo the unnamed/no owner ones....then theres the arguably fringe ones.... yes theres the ones that have deco from 2001....and then theres the ones like a single large tower sitting bang in the middlle of a castle plot...u telling me the owner prefers the tower to the instant castle he/she can place= most players end game dream!!!....then theres the small empty plots in the middle of nowere- why would you??? and then theres the OBVIOUS ''paid for'' empty plots sitting around castle placement areas/edges waiting for the keeps/towers etc inside to fall......LOL
*/*/*/*/*anyways iam through with this messy thread...but at least we came to some common ground....in that ''some bugged houses'' still exsist littering the land....happy to leave it at that.....thankyou for reading.*/*/*/*/*
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you would be surprised at what some will do and pay for to stop others from placing a castle or keep. behind my keep after the fall of the rtb houses someone put in a cabin and I have not seen the person at all. I take it as him blocking me from putting a castle in. funny thing is there never was a house in the spot b4 the falling, and when I resized I first tried for a castle wouldn't go in so I settled for a keep. Plus there is plenty of room for a bigger plot in that spot. Like you I do know there is houses out there not being paid for that need to come down I won't argue with you on that. Just have to keep turning them in.
Sure, a lot of people do have plots blocking others in castle spots. That still doesn't explain why the plot from my story is still there, but it being bugged does.
"THP between you and Claudia's god like claims of being more knowlageable then the dev in the matter of dead on the vine houses in UO. "
You sure don't read my posts very well Lady Storm. Nowhere in them did I claim the powers of god, only the powers of observation and many years of experience. I think the Dev's would agree that I'm quite knowledgeable about UO and the way the game's systems work and how I have the best interests of the game at heart. The dev's ask players for help all the time. Anyone who plays UO or Beta tested the expansions when we had them knows how they rush things to release and many bugs make it to live. It isn't the devs who find many of the bugs it is the players. So yes, some of us take it upon ourselves to point out bugs to them because frequently they have no idea some of them exist. If we hadn't brought up the RtB housing bug over and over they'd probably all still be standing because they wouldn't have known about it (I know you like to gloss over the fact we were right about those). Let's face it, the housing has been messed up several different ways for 15 years.
"Again I say what is your motive?"
It's not a secret I'm an idoc hunter who places castles seeing as how my posts in this thread say that. I do get thanked on a regular basis by the people of my home server (who are still paying to play UO unlike the owners of bugged houses) for the castles they now get to live in after so many years.
"THP between you and Claudia's god like claims of being more knowlageable then the dev in the matter of dead on the vine houses in UO. "
You sure don't read my posts very well Lady Storm. Nowhere in them did I claim the powers of god, only the powers of observation and many years of experience. I think the Dev's would agree that I'm quite knowledgeable about UO and the way the game's systems work and how I have the best interests of the game at heart.
The dev's ask players for help all the time. Anyone who plays UO or Beta tested the expansions when we had them knows how they rush things to release and many bugs make it to live. It isn't the devs who find many of the bugs it is the players. So yes, some of us take it upon ourselves to point out bugs to them because frequently they have no idea some of them exist. If we hadn't brought up the RtB housing bug over and over they'd probably all still be standing because they wouldn't have known about it (I know you like to gloss over the fact we were right about those). Let's face it, the housing has been messed up several different ways for 15 years."Again I say what is your motive?"
It's not a secret I'm an idoc hunter who places castles seeing as how my posts in this thread say that. I do get thanked on a regular basis by the people of my home server (who are still paying to play UO unlike the owners of bugged houses) for the castles they now get to live in after so many years.
I "gloss over" ?
I have done IDOC's from the beginning of UO and massed alot of knowlage of the game in my years of the inner and outter workings of the game as a whole.
And might I add its players.
Good for you to do your best to tell the dev of its faults for repair, I have as well sent many a Dev team tons of bug reports filled with things that have gone wrong.
RtB houses have been an ongoing demo project for the Dev team, and as someone who ran a business I do know other things do come up at regular intervals that stop their work on some projects like their demise.
Game content, EM Events, hollidays, trade shows, and the like... being some.
How soon we forget they work a job not play the game at work. With that one forgets also they have a finite amount of time to put to that work. They dont live at the office... though i have heard rumors of long hours when a publish is due in....
A few RtB houses and bugged are not top prioity.
I for one do not want to see a player loose their hard won home just because your pressing them meaning the Dev to dispose of a eye sore in your humble opinion... if a mistake is made. We had a good handfull of "mistakes" at the last mass drop.
I never said there are no Bugged houses or that RtB homes are not worth dropping.. but I demand that the Dev make damn sure its not a player's home that is paid for.
And I dont think any of us is entitled to know another players status as per their playing and use of their homes... EVER.
I have done IDOC's from the beginning of UO and massed alot of knowlage of the game in my years of the inner and outter workings of the game as a whole.
And might I add its players.
Good for you to do your best to tell the dev of its faults for repair, I have as well sent many a Dev team tons of bug reports filled with things that have gone wrong.
RtB houses have been an ongoing demo project for the Dev team, and as someone who ran a business I do know other things do come up at regular intervals that stop their work on some projects like their demise.
Game content, EM Events, hollidays, trade shows, and the like... being some.
How soon we forget they work a job not play the game at work. With that one forgets also they have a finite amount of time to put to that work. They dont live at the office... though i have heard rumors of long hours when a publish is due in....
A few RtB houses and bugged are not top prioity.
I for one do not want to see a player loose their hard won home just because your pressing them meaning the Dev to dispose of a eye sore in your humble opinion... if a mistake is made. We had a good handfull of "mistakes" at the last mass drop.
I never said there are no Bugged houses or that RtB homes are not worth dropping.. but I demand that the Dev make damn sure its not a player's home that is paid for.
And I dont think any of us is entitled to know another players status as per their playing and use of their homes... EVER.
Amen to that.
Last thing we need are devs rushing to drop houses and making the mistake of removing one that belongs to an active player.
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This is what worries me about this thread. I have Luna Houses on two alternate shards (not on my primary of Atlantic). I often go several months before I pop back into those Luna houses for play. But that doesn't mean they are abandoned. I pay for them every month. I also don't decorate them for holidays. So for the passerby, they may appear to be dormant, but they are indeed lawful and useful when I decided to spend time off my main shard.
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/pats Bless your heart.
Ok, now point out where anyone said make it priority #1 or even implied that paid for houses should be dropped... You went on the same rant 2 years ago and no one suggested it then either. In fact, in that thread too, several people pointed out to you no one wanted to go after paid for houses but you seem stuck on that rediculous notion for YEARS now.
Here was your stance when we were discussing RtB houses in 2011 trying to get rid of them:
Do you see the similarity to your posts in this thread? How shocked were you when you found out you were completely wrong and hundreds upon hundreds of bugged Return to Brit houses fell across all shards? If you've truly been idocing for as long as you say you have then you should know better.
She asked a question, I replied. Why don't you tell her to stop with worrying over nothing?Oh stop dragging out the unnecessary drama already...sheesh.
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Side A says they want bugged houses dropped, NOT inactive paid for houses.
Side B says paid for houses should not be dropped.
both sides are saying the same thing, there is no need to continue arguing in this thread, the only thing arguing will do is eventually getting the thread locked
Side B says paid for houses should not be dropped.
both sides are saying the same thing, there is no need to continue arguing in this thread, the only thing arguing will do is eventually getting the thread locked
It takes two (or more)...
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It's in the wording...
Yes you see my position is the same and will always remain the same in the area of caution in dealing with player houseing....
Yes drop the RtB and "dead account" houses... But BE DAMN SURE THEY ARE.
You want speed... I want accuracy.
Period
Oh and btw... we had errors up the kazoo and paid for homes dropped last time.. hence my words of caution.
Yes you see my position is the same and will always remain the same in the area of caution in dealing with player houseing....
Yes drop the RtB and "dead account" houses... But BE DAMN SURE THEY ARE.
You want speed... I want accuracy.
Period
Oh and btw... we had errors up the kazoo and paid for homes dropped last time.. hence my words of caution.
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