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I spent over 30 hours to get the complete set as the art was the most exciting thing to me in the past several years. I actually did not ( do not ) care how they looked when you opened them up but how they look as deco in my house/dungeon. They hardly show up now with the change and they were so dramatic and graphic before. If indeed it is just a Halloween mask and until the end of the month it is a great idea but if it is perm it will be a crying shame, esp for the artist/artists that created the original look.
Time to take mine down and put them in a box what a shame.
I doubt this change has anything to do with player complaints.
This line at the bottom of the publish notes suggests to me that this is a temporary Halloween costume:
I fully expect it will wear off after the holiday and they'll go back to the original art. Unless a dev says the change is permanent I don't see much point complaining about a change. Of course I say that remembering that this is UHall and that the sky tends to fall on a weekly basis at times, but honestly why would you dump these items till you know for sure?
I think they're very well done in both forms tbh. While I don't really want the devs heads on sticks, but I think they'll make great targets for any player grievances we have in future. Though I'd love to have them wearable too, then we can gather at WBB and mount a protest with our sticky heads to show we mean business
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This line at the bottom of the publish notes suggests to me that this is a temporary Halloween costume:
Secondly, if they were toned down because players complained a) they did that art very quickly considering if it wasn't planned and b) it's still gory and covered in blood. So it wasn't exactly "toned down" if that was the intention.It's not toned down at all, the heads are just in costumes. As they said in the notes. For all we know at this stage, they could have little santa hats on for Christmas.
I fully expect it will wear off after the holiday and they'll go back to the original art. Unless a dev says the change is permanent I don't see much point complaining about a change. Of course I say that remembering that this is UHall and that the sky tends to fall on a weekly basis at times, but honestly why would you dump these items till you know for sure?
I think they're very well done in both forms tbh. While I don't really want the devs heads on sticks, but I think they'll make great targets for any player grievances we have in future. Though I'd love to have them wearable too, then we can gather at WBB and mount a protest with our sticky heads to show we mean business
Wenchy
That could very well be true, but if it is, why haven't the developers responded and just say so? That would have ended all the ranting. I think they have forgot how important communication is.
What? You don't think they have better things to do rather than respond to all the rants that go on, on this site?
Since the developers made an unannounced change without any explanation, not even a mention in the publish notes, yeah I do think they should respond to the rants they unintentionally are responsible for.
ANY AND ALL changes should be included in publish notes unless the changes were made because of exploits.
ANY AND ALL changes should be included in publish notes unless the changes were made because of exploits.
They've got a new publish making its way to production shards and there's obviously another one coming after that too. That's probably a much higher priority than trying to reason with Uhallers who are being negative (we all know how futile that can be at the best of times!). If the devs confirmed it was a temp set of artwork they'd likely complain that extra effort was spent on the heads which should have gone elsewhere. I think they're busy working on the new stuff with the weekend approaching. Proper communication includes prioritizing where your time is spent. Right now I'd say they'll be focused more on watching for bugs with the invasions etc and what players are saying about that so they can tweak stuff. Art changes can wait
Wenchy
That's just silly, utter nonsense. Whenever changes are made, they are documented. All they needed to do was add one line of explanation to the publish notes, which have already been published, that the change was being made. That's customer service 101.
*smiles* Well if you know so much about how it should be done, I suggest you go apply for work at EA and sort them all out. See how you get on.
Wenchy
I do know about documenting changes like this - I've been doing that for over 30 years in my job. Are you saying that the developers don't need to tell us about changes being published? Only some changes?
The problem here is that the Developers are getting lazy and this seems to be a new habit for them. It's not unfair for me, or us as players, to ask to know these changes are coming rather than be surprised by it. I still remember the fiasco created by the unannounced healing/re-targeting change earlier this year, and think that whole incident could have been avoided.
....it was in the change log for the next publish at the very bottom
"In the spirit of Halloween the UO Team has donned Halloween costumes, Enjoy!!"
"In the spirit of Halloween the UO Team has donned Halloween costumes, Enjoy!!"
Ahh, thank you. I did not associate that part of the announcement in regards to the heads on a pike. I was expecting to see the UO team appear in game somehow in costume. Thanks for pointing this out.
Now who is the FOOL? Guess you really need to learn how to READ.
http://www.uo.com/article/Publish-84-TC1-Patch-Notes
In the spirit of Halloween the UO Team has donned Halloween costumes, Enjoy!!
Petra said on the first page "In the spirit of Halloween the UO Team has donned Halloween costumes, Enjoy!!"
This has gone on for 2 pages. lol to funny. I even read it and understood it.
I have read waste of time comments, people throwing them away because they did not take the time to read. Wasn't a waste of time because you all enjoyed it before the change then it became a waste of time after a change for the hioliday season. lmao
This has gone on for 2 pages. lol to funny. I even read it and understood it.
I have read waste of time comments, people throwing them away because they did not take the time to read. Wasn't a waste of time because you all enjoyed it before the change then it became a waste of time after a change for the hioliday season. lmao
Name calling - how very trollish of you.
I read quite well, thank you very much. As I said, I did not associate that with the heads on the pike, and would be willing to say based on the dozens of questions in the general chat, no one else did either. Like I said, I read that to mean the team was going to appear in-game somehow, like the Shard of the Dead with uber-boss monsters named after the developers. No where is there a direct reference to the change to the heads on a pike.
Ever since i started to play 14 years ago there was never any documentation on what was done to UO by the devs. Hell there wasn't even a manual when you bought the game from the shops. UO has always been about discovery!
Since when do you chose what the Devs want to look like If they want to have chicken heads on a spike with their names on it thats their choice and your objection is pointless
the change to their appearance doesnt effect game play doesnt put you in danger doesnt cost you a penny they dont have to ask your permission how they look nor should they have to explain themselves.
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I thought UO had a minimum age requirement obviously not enforcing it!
There was plenty of gore in UO before these heads...
Reading this post reminds me a lot of when I'm kids were real little, and I'd come home from the store with a treat and get an initial complaint of, that's not what I like/wanted..thank god they grew up and out if that unappreciative stage..unfortunately most of the UO community has not..and on average 6-7x the age of my once spoiled 5 year old..
My Spolied 21 year old daughter still acts like that, they never grow up, mind you with that said my 13 year old boy acts like a 99 year old man... Being a parent means you never win i guess
Wait till you become a grandparent so you can spoil the grandkids and then send them home. Its so great hearing from my kids about how spoiled their kids are. Pay back is a BLESSING.My Spolied 21 year old daughter still acts like that, they never grow up, mind you with that said my 13 year old boy acts like a 99 year old man... Being a parent means you never win i guess
Ok, folks: EM Borbarad announced in GC on Drachenfels 5 min ago, that they heads will stay as they are now. Reason: Complaints of players the old heads were too bloody.
I think...
...(1) the crybabys have won again. It is so ridiculous. Minorities getting heard - always...
...(2) who wants to get rid of his / her collection: I will take it. I still like them...
Best wishes
I think...
...(1) the crybabys have won again. It is so ridiculous. Minorities getting heard - always...
...(2) who wants to get rid of his / her collection: I will take it. I still like them...
Best wishes
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theyre still bloody though rofl...
To the frickin whiner-babies-
PLUUUULEEEEZZE GROW UP! Haven't any of you played GTA? You pick up, screw then kill a hooker!!! Um have you seen God of War? You can freakin rip the heads right off your enemies! Call of Duty, Halo, R.E., Last of Us, Walking Dead, Medal of Honor and Defiance all WAAAAAY more graphic than UO. Please if it offends you go to WoW, Go directly to WoW, do not collect your vet reward and the 2 billion gold you probably buy! I liked them the way they were ESPECIALLY Jeff Skalaski's !!!!!!! LOL
FYI for those of you in B & M chorus over the devs sticking their names/faces/whatever in the game.
Okay you are here by no longer allowed to call yourself a gamer PERIOD! As long as there have been video games, Game Devs been trying to get their 2 seconds of fame or digtal immortality. First one that comes to mind is a TI 99/4A Educational game Luc had, on the opening screen it boldly said "Author: Thomas Hartzig".
Now unless you have been living in a hole in Siberia, you've heard of Mortal Kombat! Remember the Toasty/Frosty/Spicy guy that popped up? That was the FREAKING Sound Designer!!! Here's the link if ya don't believe me: http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Toasty! Leave the Devs alone, shut up whining and if you don't like it then go play WoW with rest of the infants.
PLUUUULEEEEZZE GROW UP! Haven't any of you played GTA? You pick up, screw then kill a hooker!!! Um have you seen God of War? You can freakin rip the heads right off your enemies! Call of Duty, Halo, R.E., Last of Us, Walking Dead, Medal of Honor and Defiance all WAAAAAY more graphic than UO. Please if it offends you go to WoW, Go directly to WoW, do not collect your vet reward and the 2 billion gold you probably buy! I liked them the way they were ESPECIALLY Jeff Skalaski's !!!!!!! LOL
FYI for those of you in B & M chorus over the devs sticking their names/faces/whatever in the game.
Okay you are here by no longer allowed to call yourself a gamer PERIOD! As long as there have been video games, Game Devs been trying to get their 2 seconds of fame or digtal immortality. First one that comes to mind is a TI 99/4A Educational game Luc had, on the opening screen it boldly said "Author: Thomas Hartzig".
Now unless you have been living in a hole in Siberia, you've heard of Mortal Kombat! Remember the Toasty/Frosty/Spicy guy that popped up? That was the FREAKING Sound Designer!!! Here's the link if ya don't believe me: http://mortalkombat.wikia.com/wiki/Toasty! Leave the Devs alone, shut up whining and if you don't like it then go play WoW with rest of the infants.
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Ugh... I bet you $100000000 I know at least one person who cried to the devs about this. God, so incredibly lame. The most lame part... THEY ARE STILL JUST AS GORY. They are now just gory monsters rather than gory people. Stupid.
And I've never played any of those games.
Really. You're the incarnation of Noah Webster that you have such control over dictionary definitions?
Are you blue in the face yet from your spew of insults?
My big thing was consistency: I don't think they have a place in UO, but since they are, let the game have an appropriate rating and let's have severed heads again.
Completely not surprised. And the devs have had so many opportunities to communicate this decision to the boards, and yet... yeah. It's cool, you don't even have to evade a question if you chose not to acknowledge it.
Meh, I still say we should just deport the whiners to World of Warcraft. Let em mess up someone else's game and leave ours alone.
Thanks for passing that on, but I would believe it more if it came straight from a dev. One reason being that they look just as bloody as before
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Technically we have had severed heads for as long as the game has been out. They just aren't player heads. The same goes with these heads on spikes, they weren't cut off of anyone, so I don't see how they are any different than the severed heads (or any of the other bloody severed human body part) we can get as loot from undead... other than having a higher resolution.
I am personally all for bringing back the player corpse cutting, but the ACT of dismemberment was the reason that act was taken out, because it was illegal to depict dismemberment in Germany (if I remember the country right), not because it was too gory.
I completely understand not liking these items. Thats perfectly fine. What I don't like is that instead of simply not collecting them, people felt they had to start writing emails, rendering the items JUST AS GORY but now in pastel monster colors, making several of them MUCH harder to make out (messana especially looks muddled). I also bet the people who complained are still not collecting them, so outside of the few who like the monster heads better it's lose/lose.
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Yes, I was talking about taking other players' heads, not the other game items. It's been specifically stated that, on the U.S. side of things, it was removed so UO could keep a T rating. I found that ridiculous. Now, the newly introduced heads are not consistent with a rating, so that should be revisited.
The "dismemberment" before was about as realistic as a game katana slicing off a limb. It's always been cartoonish with much left to the imagination, and appropriate in the spirit of previous Ultima games. But we didn't before have anything showing a spike through a realistic head's eye socket.
The "dismemberment" before was about as realistic as a game katana slicing off a limb. It's always been cartoonish with much left to the imagination, and appropriate in the spirit of previous Ultima games. But we didn't before have anything showing a spike through a realistic head's eye socket.
So now you have control over who plays UO, hmm?
Don't presume to tell me about the speck in my eye when you have a beam of your own.
It's really funny, how (practically) everyone is convinced his/her opinion is the only right one.
To be honest, I hated those heads from the beginning because they're too awful/horrible/bloody/gory for my taste, but thats MHO.
Live and let live, why not? I don't have to collect them, I got a lot of free time and also lockdowns not collecting them, so everything is fine for me. Where's the problem?
To be honest, I hated those heads from the beginning because they're too awful/horrible/bloody/gory for my taste, but thats MHO.
Live and let live, why not? I don't have to collect them, I got a lot of free time and also lockdowns not collecting them, so everything is fine for me. Where's the problem?
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