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Devs.. Please make getting rid of checks as a priority
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Have you sell them a BOD for the 100m you bought from them? Bam, you got your money. Buy items, trade items, buyer sells items, has the money (similar to the way its done in EQ I believe). There is always ways around everything, it all comes down to the scales, to the pro's outweigh the con's.I wonder what the gold sellers will do, if gold points get account bound and not transferable to other players anymore
like i said either take on board the ''cut in stone data'' that i gave........ or totally dismiss it...your choice!!!...u dismissed it..many others liked it ...again it was ''your choice''.....i will be updating the info on a monthly basis....Maybe you should collect some incredibly flawed data from illegal 3rd party sites to create new ridiculous posts?
Ohh wait, you have already tried that
and as for illegal sites....is it really illegal to look at it ??? im reckoning 95% of folks get there Price Checks form there....everyone i know in game does.....sooooooooo wtf.!!!...grow up will ya.
[waits for the trollers to state they have '' never ever, ever, ever, even thought about looking at such an illecit site'' .....come on dont let me down......lol]
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I use the said site on a daily basis, but I don't come on stratics and start posting Illegal data from them. The data held on these sites has no place on stratics and I will continue to ask Petra to either lock the threads or delete them. Stratics is not the place to be posting Illegal 3rd party data. You may find you get a better response on the HOT boards or the UCH boards for that kind of data
hehehheeee...u didnt let me down...''raises a jug''
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I hope the change from checks to a balance occurs sooner than later. While they are at it... gold sinks. Lots of them. Insurance doesn't seem to make a dent these days.
If there are no more checks and you need to transfer gold between characters on two of your own accounts and the transfer needs to happen on a shard where you don't have a house or your house is not public (and you have no interest in making it public just to set up a vendor), how will you transfer gold between those two characters? Or say you want to give gold to a guildmate on another shard and neither of you have a house there. What will you do?
If we do get virtual currency, what do people think needs to be the maximum amount that can be held by any one character or account? I would imagine that from a programming point of view at least, there is some kind of constraint that needs to be placed on that value.
Well Tina if you have a to do something like that I would assume you do it on the first shard you do have gold and a home/vendor on. As it was said the gold is account bound so it will appear on any shard on any character on that account. So there fore you do your transfer of gold/credits to them on the main shard.
This will hamper though helping new players...... how can I give a new little one a 100k ?? without checks helping our new friends will be a major hastle.
I told you all this account bound credit system is gunna cause more headaches then it remedies. Mark my word it goes in and less then 3 months later you all will be clamoring to reverse it. You all should really sit down and look at all you and others use gold for and what happens when this change goes in...
Oh Tina you hit on another point I have been trying to make... they can limit your gold holding with this...
This will hamper though helping new players...... how can I give a new little one a 100k ?? without checks helping our new friends will be a major hastle.
I told you all this account bound credit system is gunna cause more headaches then it remedies. Mark my word it goes in and less then 3 months later you all will be clamoring to reverse it. You all should really sit down and look at all you and others use gold for and what happens when this change goes in...
Oh Tina you hit on another point I have been trying to make... they can limit your gold holding with this...
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Just to clarify, this site is not "illegal" Origin and then EA, EA/Mythic dropped the ball when they failed to prosecute for copyright infringement among other things they could have sued for. Same goes for the free-shards that exist, most are no longer "illegal". This is due to the fact EA knew about them and failed to act soon enough.this illecit ....naughty ...illegal.... god awefull site....[whatever]
Instead they are simply against the games RoC/ToS to use/advertise.
Whats even funnier is the more people talk about these RMT and scripting sites, the more traffic they receive. You have people that just want to see it for the hell of ti due to all the talk. The traffic builds, their sales build.
UO makes that third party site popular all by itself through grinds. Want 10 of some resource to imbue with? Do you pay $10, or spend thirty hours farming it yourself?
They should just put all resources in the UOstore and sell them there. EA would likely make a fortune as people paid a few dollars for resources and spent the grind hours having fun instead of grinding.
They should just put all resources in the UOstore and sell them there. EA would likely make a fortune as people paid a few dollars for resources and spent the grind hours having fun instead of grinding.
Tanivar I am not sure who is to blame for this one but it has always come down to time on game working to get an item or gold vs going to a off site to buy it.
EA has rather dropped the ball, I agree with you both.
Times have changed that many players don't have that 4 to 5 hours to run the game per sitting due to Real Life.
As it should be it gets top attention.
Most don't even have 2 hours a day to put into the game anymore, its hard to squeeze out time for ones self much less a game.
Instead of offering gold for sale and ringing in profets by the handful EA let the opportunity slip to others.
I have seen many sites come and go over the years. Some do no harm in one respect... They show EA where they are goofing up.
EA has rather dropped the ball, I agree with you both.
Times have changed that many players don't have that 4 to 5 hours to run the game per sitting due to Real Life.
As it should be it gets top attention.
Most don't even have 2 hours a day to put into the game anymore, its hard to squeeze out time for ones self much less a game.
Instead of offering gold for sale and ringing in profets by the handful EA let the opportunity slip to others.
I have seen many sites come and go over the years. Some do no harm in one respect... They show EA where they are goofing up.
They could pay someone what they pay an EM, hell I'd do it part time
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I'm on the fence on this one not sure what way to jump off.
I like having checks I would hate to lose the few white checks I have, and I would like to be able to keep some yellow checks.
I would like to see this if they go by a new gold system.
they make it to where players who want to sell or buy housing will be able to sell a house by opening the house gump click on selling house gump comes up where you add the price you ok. Then a little for sale sign pops up under the house sign. Some one wanting to buy a house sees the for sale sign clicks the for sale sign to check the price. You will have a choice to accept or decline the house sellers price. The buyer is happy with the price clicks accepts the gold is transfered to the sellers bank, and the house is transfered to the buyers account. No broker or having to wait for the seller.
I got my places I'm good, I don't sell, but I know how much of a hassel it can be either way. plus this way will also lower the risk of either person getting hacked since there won't be any contact by either parties out side the game.
Im also hoping that there will be a easy way to transfer gold between accounts like maybe on your personal menu there will be transfer gold. you click on transfer could then you target who you want to transfer gold to put in the amount hit ok gold is transfered.
I don't think its going to be by account and all shards. I think its going to be by accounts and per each shard. Other way they would be shooting their foot off cuz of the transfer tokens.
I like having checks I would hate to lose the few white checks I have, and I would like to be able to keep some yellow checks.
I would like to see this if they go by a new gold system.
they make it to where players who want to sell or buy housing will be able to sell a house by opening the house gump click on selling house gump comes up where you add the price you ok. Then a little for sale sign pops up under the house sign. Some one wanting to buy a house sees the for sale sign clicks the for sale sign to check the price. You will have a choice to accept or decline the house sellers price. The buyer is happy with the price clicks accepts the gold is transfered to the sellers bank, and the house is transfered to the buyers account. No broker or having to wait for the seller.
I got my places I'm good, I don't sell, but I know how much of a hassel it can be either way. plus this way will also lower the risk of either person getting hacked since there won't be any contact by either parties out side the game.
Im also hoping that there will be a easy way to transfer gold between accounts like maybe on your personal menu there will be transfer gold. you click on transfer could then you target who you want to transfer gold to put in the amount hit ok gold is transfered.
I don't think its going to be by account and all shards. I think its going to be by accounts and per each shard. Other way they would be shooting their foot off cuz of the transfer tokens.
Huh? How have times changed as pertaining to amount of time available to play? Did I miss a nationwide curfew on MMORPG playing time or something?
How do you know how much time the majority of the playerbase has available? And why is this time less then the amount of time the playerbase had available 7 years ago? People didnt have real lives back then? Wtf are you talking about?
Goldberg I have a vast number of friends in UO and many other mmorg's and we do talk of the Real world.
Most notably is the number of hours they have free these days.
Some have growing children now. I met them when they were school age kids in UO as the shard mom and kept in touch over the years. You must admit a young parent has very little free time.
Some again have found with the work issue of time.
Many offices have cracked down on the work computer used for personal time.
Those who joined the game on their lunch hour can no longer do so as the HR's of most company's now will fire you if you do so. (they even restrict personal phones too)
You must admit time has become a factor over the last 20 years in most things people do...
Unless its winter time most kids want to be outside... this means parent's in tow, sports do have the a big influence on game time.
As it should be encouraged. We don't want our children becoming hermits at the computer.
I have even noticed my game time has sharply curtailed over the 16 years I have played UO.
I use to play 12 to 16 hours a day (yes I know that was excessive but I was dealing with things that I needed escape from and UO was that escape) These days if I spend 2 or 4 hours in game I am lucky.
My son and his wife have me doing tons that I didn't need to do when I was alone... (I am use to self clean up they on other hand are typical lazybones who leave the kitchen a mess after a sandwich).
If you get my drift.
Then you have those who are spread too thin in every direction... one friend has a honey do list that rivals the roll call for the us army!
I and he think his wife is trying to rid him of his game play.
She hates computers and has said so.
He is not alone, in fact over the years many of my friends have been cut out of UO and other games by a spouse not wanting them in it.
My friend Ti was bargained out of her game time... her father is very religious and made her an offer that if she gave up her game time he would help pay for her new house. I guess the computer to him is the devils handy work... go figure..
Then we have the people who have been severly effected by the job market.
They have had to change hours, jobs and even loss of income and have had to take what's out there to manage living.
One friend has had 5 jobs in 2 years each has closed their doors shortly after he was hired as the economy hit them hard.
The job he has now limits his free time to a fraction of what it was before.
Liz and Beth are in the same boat, they have different hours and with their family's changing needs of their time the game is getting less and less of their attention.
I expect soon both will quit as they don't have the time to devote to it.
Now you tell me you don't know how I know what the time players have for the game.................
I have been in UO for oh say 16 years, with homes and friends on every shard I have been on ... have many friends in all country's and games I play.
There is one thing I do notice is how we talk of what's keeping them from play.
Goldberg wake up and read a newspaper on your computer... or listen to the news on tv.
The world has evolved and I guess you missed the memo.
Most notably is the number of hours they have free these days.
Some have growing children now. I met them when they were school age kids in UO as the shard mom and kept in touch over the years. You must admit a young parent has very little free time.
Some again have found with the work issue of time.
Many offices have cracked down on the work computer used for personal time.
Those who joined the game on their lunch hour can no longer do so as the HR's of most company's now will fire you if you do so. (they even restrict personal phones too)
You must admit time has become a factor over the last 20 years in most things people do...
Unless its winter time most kids want to be outside... this means parent's in tow, sports do have the a big influence on game time.
As it should be encouraged. We don't want our children becoming hermits at the computer.
I have even noticed my game time has sharply curtailed over the 16 years I have played UO.
I use to play 12 to 16 hours a day (yes I know that was excessive but I was dealing with things that I needed escape from and UO was that escape) These days if I spend 2 or 4 hours in game I am lucky.
My son and his wife have me doing tons that I didn't need to do when I was alone... (I am use to self clean up they on other hand are typical lazybones who leave the kitchen a mess after a sandwich).
If you get my drift.
Then you have those who are spread too thin in every direction... one friend has a honey do list that rivals the roll call for the us army!
I and he think his wife is trying to rid him of his game play.
She hates computers and has said so.
He is not alone, in fact over the years many of my friends have been cut out of UO and other games by a spouse not wanting them in it.
My friend Ti was bargained out of her game time... her father is very religious and made her an offer that if she gave up her game time he would help pay for her new house. I guess the computer to him is the devils handy work... go figure..
Then we have the people who have been severly effected by the job market.
They have had to change hours, jobs and even loss of income and have had to take what's out there to manage living.
One friend has had 5 jobs in 2 years each has closed their doors shortly after he was hired as the economy hit them hard.
The job he has now limits his free time to a fraction of what it was before.
Liz and Beth are in the same boat, they have different hours and with their family's changing needs of their time the game is getting less and less of their attention.
I expect soon both will quit as they don't have the time to devote to it.
Now you tell me you don't know how I know what the time players have for the game.................
I have been in UO for oh say 16 years, with homes and friends on every shard I have been on ... have many friends in all country's and games I play.
There is one thing I do notice is how we talk of what's keeping them from play.
Goldberg wake up and read a newspaper on your computer... or listen to the news on tv.
The world has evolved and I guess you missed the memo.
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My 7 year old niece when I give her a choice roller blades/bike or computer. she picks roller blades/bike.
My 4 year old niece when I give her a choice computer or sandbox she picks the sandbox. My choice is I don't get a choice either way I lose out on the computer because their on it, or I have to be outside with them.My 4 year old niece chooses the sandbox because she seriously believes dragons are real first chance she gets she grabs two bowls fills one with water the other with carrots ( yes carrots its a vegetarian dragon). Then she plays in the sandbox waiting for the dragon to show up.I tell her dragons don't exsist, but she keeps taking those bowls out there. I can see why kids think the things they do at that age. When they see it on tv it must be true or does exsist. LOL my luck when I do convince her they don't exsist one will land in our backyard. Those two take up my time I have the 4 year old from 9 am til 4 pm, and the 7 year old from 5 pm til 9 pm. At times I have both thats the pull my hair out time. years ago I had plenty of time and thinking now I would have time lol ya right. So I see what you mean, Because I'm lucky if I play 1 or 2 hours a day in.
proablly a trade window buy a rune for ex amount gold lol, look i also sell tin foil hats in uo for 10 gold per lol
Michelle give her a hug, she feeds dragons. Way to go! Yes times have changed... we have changed..
Now as for the gold removal..
I have said enough on it and I stand by it...
I don't want to go to a number for an account with the gold.
I see the down side and its a very slippery slope.
Not as much gold is being duped as you all might think, but high gold value items are.
Come on put your heads into this!
You got a good handful of items worth 150 mill or better each.. are you going to dupe them or a measly mill check??
Use your brains...
And for those of you sitting on that much gold that it is hampering your play, find a new player or 2 spend a few on them. Buy a few things at the fair.. if your waiting for it to rain in UO you got a long wait....
Now as for the gold removal..
I have said enough on it and I stand by it...
I don't want to go to a number for an account with the gold.
I see the down side and its a very slippery slope.
Not as much gold is being duped as you all might think, but high gold value items are.
Come on put your heads into this!
You got a good handful of items worth 150 mill or better each.. are you going to dupe them or a measly mill check??
Use your brains...
And for those of you sitting on that much gold that it is hampering your play, find a new player or 2 spend a few on them. Buy a few things at the fair.. if your waiting for it to rain in UO you got a long wait....
How is duping items worth millions going to change vs a check for a million? I'm not following, so the items worth millions can still be duped, however the gold would be on your character instead of checks so that wouldn't be able to be duped.
Also you were talking of how you could no longer give a new player 100k. Why would you not be able to? It would be like wow where you can trade them gold in a window and the number on backpack [in wow] would increase even though you don't physically have gold. The same would happen in UO now. So how exactly can you not help a new player?
Both of these aren't good examples for why it shouldn't be changed. If anything it's an argument for why it should be. In the case of the first example gold checks would no longer be duped or whatever you're claiming, and you can still help a new player.
I am glad I started a thread that has carried on for a bit and since I bought it up I am of course for the change.
I read the reasons not to change with an open mind but I honestly do not get it the stance of those against. (first off the gold wipe and "take off the last zero" are horrible ideas in my opinion)
I would hate to see all the checks vanish in a blink of an eye though as I think the rare white checks should be maintained (and maybe the 0 gold ones as some seem to collect them). The arguements do nothing to fix the reality in the game that due to inflation over the past 15 years items and homes have far surpased the ability of the "banking" system to keep up. I know its a small percentage of the players but if you have multiple billions of gold the entire hassle with not only keeping it on vendors (a horrible way to work around the system shortcomings) but purchasing a house or rare worth several billion is crazy. I am not trying to make it out as anyone is stupid but a billion is a 1,000 million of the loaded checks. Go ahead and get yourself 2,000 potions, unstack them into single potions, and then work out how you plan to transfer those 2,000 single items to another player without get scammed and God forbid you are trying to do that by moving them from your home shard to another. Its an old broken system.
And on a side note if someone has 5 billion gold they wish to spend on "insert whatever" that is there choice. Just because som players do not "believe" in spending over 100 million on something that is fine for them but should not be forced upon others.
Personally I am all for letting players keep checks and stacks of gold if they wish. But there is zero harm to the community or game by converting gold to a number on the paperdoll of those that wish it.
BG
I read the reasons not to change with an open mind but I honestly do not get it the stance of those against. (first off the gold wipe and "take off the last zero" are horrible ideas in my opinion)
I would hate to see all the checks vanish in a blink of an eye though as I think the rare white checks should be maintained (and maybe the 0 gold ones as some seem to collect them). The arguements do nothing to fix the reality in the game that due to inflation over the past 15 years items and homes have far surpased the ability of the "banking" system to keep up. I know its a small percentage of the players but if you have multiple billions of gold the entire hassle with not only keeping it on vendors (a horrible way to work around the system shortcomings) but purchasing a house or rare worth several billion is crazy. I am not trying to make it out as anyone is stupid but a billion is a 1,000 million of the loaded checks. Go ahead and get yourself 2,000 potions, unstack them into single potions, and then work out how you plan to transfer those 2,000 single items to another player without get scammed and God forbid you are trying to do that by moving them from your home shard to another. Its an old broken system.
And on a side note if someone has 5 billion gold they wish to spend on "insert whatever" that is there choice. Just because som players do not "believe" in spending over 100 million on something that is fine for them but should not be forced upon others.
Personally I am all for letting players keep checks and stacks of gold if they wish. But there is zero harm to the community or game by converting gold to a number on the paperdoll of those that wish it.
BG
Makes absolutely no sense at all. The world has evolved since you started playing UO? What planet are you on?
Are you that immersed in UO that you dont understand that everyone has a real life outside of UO and has always had a real life outside of UO? How many active accounts do you play btw?
Did you start playing when you were 14 and all of a sudden get a real life? I dont think so but just wondering based upon your statements. Cuz I started playing at 30 and always had other interests and issues. These have waxed and waned over the years. Thats life. I guess its different for me because UO was never my entire existence?
Bottom line is that overall amount of UO playtime is based upon the cyclical nature of the entire playerbase. It has absolutely nothing to do with individual schedules. Sorry to have to break that news to you
Do you honestly believe that when you started playing UO and supposedly had all that extra time you keep referring to(12-15 hours a day I believe you stated)that everyone else had that same amount of time? Nobody had rl or pressing issues back then affecting their gametime?
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Goldberg words are useless in your logic.
It's a lost cause....... I give up.
I've seen doors with more common sense.
Let me put this in a better light.
For you Speaking the Truth........
Right now there are things that are rare in UO that have high gold value.... some limited things that sell on average of 150 mill and up. Which would you dupe ?
125 one mill checks or 125 items of a average value of that 150 mill each?
Let's do the math shall we...
125 mill in checks = 125 million
125 items @ 150 mill each = 18 billion 750 million
So which would you dupe?
Now I am not saying the dupers are that smart to have that many of any item or such but on average most have enough brains to figure that its more profitable to dupe a high end item then gold.
And it not saying that some haven't duped gold checks ether..
The dev have made gold sinks but not to the point of any big wipeout of player holdings and that's evident by the clamoring of this system to be enacted.
Mostly its been a gold merry go round between players...
Players will rather spend real cash at the origin store and save their in game gold then use it in game for things like the Britainian Ship for example.
Real gold sinks are needed not just talk of them.
Blood Ghoul yes this has been an enlightening thread...
I can see why many want the system converted.
Ease of not having to use transfers for gold movement is a big draw.
As is the whole taking up space in homes and bank boxes of excessive gold owned by some might be the big push.
Yes I will agree that would be nice to have my lowly chick on "whatever shard" to be able to access the gold that right now is on others of the same account.
It does remind me of WoW in a way.
Guild banks there have open gold for all members to be able to use if granted access to it.
Don't get me wrong the idea sounds great but I do see trouble if it is done and it seems you all are willing to endure this just to get this in place.
On paper it sounds simple, but in the game ... I have my doubts of it working to the degree you all want.
Questions:
Will all gold stop existing ?
Even what's used in deco?
Does it mean if I kill a monster there will be no gold showing up in its body?
What if more then one player kills a monster how does it divide the gold amount?
What if someone hits my kill who gets the gold credited?
If based on looting rights and I am in party how is this going to work?
Many times we go out and one is not after the gold but working skills while the other is collecting the gold... how can it be done so this remains doable?
What if I don't have a vendor on another shard for a gold exchange if I am selling a item?
Or the party to whom I wish to give gold to doesn't have a way to have a vendor to give them gold for an item I wish to buy from them?
I want to give a newbie some gold to help out... how do I do it?
NPC's wont sell you if you don't have the gold on you if purchase is under 2k how will that work now?
This is just a few of the answers I want before this ever rolls out of the dev teams hands.
Other games that have this method were designed with this in their original makeup, UO was not so blessed in that respect.
To convert to this will have to take a lot of time and I hope through testing before its ever let loose on the production shards.
Your willing for them to take your gold and make it a number on the screen...... and do it right... We are talking EA/OSI/Mythic doing this .....
All that is rolling in my head is Elmer Fudd saying in "be afraid ... be very afraid"
What can happen? Right?
It's a lost cause....... I give up.
I've seen doors with more common sense.
Let me put this in a better light.
For you Speaking the Truth........
Right now there are things that are rare in UO that have high gold value.... some limited things that sell on average of 150 mill and up. Which would you dupe ?
125 one mill checks or 125 items of a average value of that 150 mill each?
Let's do the math shall we...
125 mill in checks = 125 million
125 items @ 150 mill each = 18 billion 750 million
So which would you dupe?
Now I am not saying the dupers are that smart to have that many of any item or such but on average most have enough brains to figure that its more profitable to dupe a high end item then gold.
And it not saying that some haven't duped gold checks ether..
The dev have made gold sinks but not to the point of any big wipeout of player holdings and that's evident by the clamoring of this system to be enacted.
Mostly its been a gold merry go round between players...
Players will rather spend real cash at the origin store and save their in game gold then use it in game for things like the Britainian Ship for example.
Real gold sinks are needed not just talk of them.
Blood Ghoul yes this has been an enlightening thread...
I can see why many want the system converted.
Ease of not having to use transfers for gold movement is a big draw.
As is the whole taking up space in homes and bank boxes of excessive gold owned by some might be the big push.
Yes I will agree that would be nice to have my lowly chick on "whatever shard" to be able to access the gold that right now is on others of the same account.
It does remind me of WoW in a way.
Guild banks there have open gold for all members to be able to use if granted access to it.
Don't get me wrong the idea sounds great but I do see trouble if it is done and it seems you all are willing to endure this just to get this in place.
On paper it sounds simple, but in the game ... I have my doubts of it working to the degree you all want.
Questions:
Will all gold stop existing ?
Even what's used in deco?
Does it mean if I kill a monster there will be no gold showing up in its body?
What if more then one player kills a monster how does it divide the gold amount?
What if someone hits my kill who gets the gold credited?
If based on looting rights and I am in party how is this going to work?
Many times we go out and one is not after the gold but working skills while the other is collecting the gold... how can it be done so this remains doable?
What if I don't have a vendor on another shard for a gold exchange if I am selling a item?
Or the party to whom I wish to give gold to doesn't have a way to have a vendor to give them gold for an item I wish to buy from them?
I want to give a newbie some gold to help out... how do I do it?
NPC's wont sell you if you don't have the gold on you if purchase is under 2k how will that work now?
This is just a few of the answers I want before this ever rolls out of the dev teams hands.
Other games that have this method were designed with this in their original makeup, UO was not so blessed in that respect.
To convert to this will have to take a lot of time and I hope through testing before its ever let loose on the production shards.
Your willing for them to take your gold and make it a number on the screen...... and do it right... We are talking EA/OSI/Mythic doing this .....
All that is rolling in my head is Elmer Fudd saying in "be afraid ... be very afraid"
What can happen? Right?
I think they dupe items and gold checks. Then put outrages prices on very high end items. player comes long can't afford that item, but they really want it now. ( no idea how to go about buying checks)The player gets the checks from the duper. He goes and buys the outraged priced item, and he is really happy. Later that night the duper logs on the game goes to that same vendor starts sending 1 mil checks to the bank for another player who bought mil checks for another item on the vendor. Ok that is what I think I call it recycled gold.
The gold sellers are active, no doubt of that. I've been trashing gold-seller books of late that I find scattered all over Luna and the moongates of Chesapeake. They're likely just pricing items they have for sale in game for super high amounts, knowing people will want to buy them, and creating business for themselves as gold-sellers. "Don't have 850,000,000,000 gold? Grab one of our gold-seller books littered all over Sosaria and we can sell you all the gold you need!!!"
You and a lot of players are now dumping the books as found.
I do it on every shard I go on.
I think as we dump them they are not getting sales and are despite to get players to respond to anything at the moment.
Oh and right now there is on quite a few shards something of an odd occurrence with a few "Young" on horse back racing through and around the square in Luna.
I have seen this on Napa, Sonoma, Origin, Catskills, Chesapeake, Great Lakes so far...
They don't do anything but run like a mad hatter and never stop or talk.
On Origin the players got suspicious of them and placed a known blocking bag ball in the path they run and it stops them dead in their track.
Remove the bag ball an they remain still till then vanish as they are young its instant.
But with in a few minutes a new "Young" is spotted doing the very same thing then the original pops back up and you have 2 of them racing.
Now I know The Creature "Plague" is for that web site we cant discuss but these?
I am wondering if some other company has UO in its agenda..
I do it on every shard I go on.
I think as we dump them they are not getting sales and are despite to get players to respond to anything at the moment.
Oh and right now there is on quite a few shards something of an odd occurrence with a few "Young" on horse back racing through and around the square in Luna.
I have seen this on Napa, Sonoma, Origin, Catskills, Chesapeake, Great Lakes so far...
They don't do anything but run like a mad hatter and never stop or talk.
On Origin the players got suspicious of them and placed a known blocking bag ball in the path they run and it stops them dead in their track.
Remove the bag ball an they remain still till then vanish as they are young its instant.
But with in a few minutes a new "Young" is spotted doing the very same thing then the original pops back up and you have 2 of them racing.
Now I know The Creature "Plague" is for that web site we cant discuss but these?
I am wondering if some other company has UO in its agenda..
Your 75% get 100% of their information off general chat from the 25% Fine forget dropping the last digit from all gold counts. Replace every 10 GP with 1 PP (Phatonium Piece). Now your 150 million GP item is now worth 15 million PP and hell lot easier to exchange funds. Same math. Can bring out the apples and oranges for some delightful story math.
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After looking at the differences of going to a number and making the next higher denomination of coin ie: Platinum, what it might take to do ether.
Designation of gold to a number in a game that was not designed with it in mind.
I had to look at all aspects of gold's uses we players use it for.
How we get it, spend it and store it.
Did you know unless they rewrite the trade window giving each other a set amount of gold your going to need a vendor...
This can be a hassle for a lot of players who don't have a home on some shards to have a vendor.
I see a big market for abuse by others charging outrageous fees to place one.
They will need to rewrite the way we can buy from NPC vendors in towns and out in the wilds.. remember you need buy over 2k before it pulls from bank.
How ever.. they will need a way to give the number gold to others ... like young and small purchases. t would be stupid if we all now will need a vendor to do all our transferring of funds!
Now doing the Platinum coin is a strictly a bank/vendor change.
The coding I am not sure if it would be easer or not its just recognizing a players bank total and making it a set number. the coin would also make paying ones vendor's a much easer task.
1 Platinum coin equaling a million gold makes much more sense.
You would deposit your gold checks and by opening them to the gold coin once the 1 million is in your bank balance it would produce the Platinum coin.
You would still have gold, and gold checks for any amount needed, and a secure way to store your excess gold.
As with gold stacking Platinum would go to the 60,000 mark then you would need a second stack... but hey who would complain!
I would advise the Platinum be a different size then the silver coin to make distinguishing them easy. Or perhaps make it to a bar type image.
I am no expert on game codeing nor how much it would take to do ether system.
No it wont stop dupers.. but it would give the dev a chance to find a way to trace.
I still see a lot of trouble ether way..
The criminal element of our people who prey on others will always be there no matter how hard we try to stop it.
They always seen to find an inside track of how to break the system.
Designation of gold to a number in a game that was not designed with it in mind.
I had to look at all aspects of gold's uses we players use it for.
How we get it, spend it and store it.
Did you know unless they rewrite the trade window giving each other a set amount of gold your going to need a vendor...
This can be a hassle for a lot of players who don't have a home on some shards to have a vendor.
I see a big market for abuse by others charging outrageous fees to place one.
They will need to rewrite the way we can buy from NPC vendors in towns and out in the wilds.. remember you need buy over 2k before it pulls from bank.
How ever.. they will need a way to give the number gold to others ... like young and small purchases. t would be stupid if we all now will need a vendor to do all our transferring of funds!
Now doing the Platinum coin is a strictly a bank/vendor change.
The coding I am not sure if it would be easer or not its just recognizing a players bank total and making it a set number. the coin would also make paying ones vendor's a much easer task.
1 Platinum coin equaling a million gold makes much more sense.
You would deposit your gold checks and by opening them to the gold coin once the 1 million is in your bank balance it would produce the Platinum coin.
You would still have gold, and gold checks for any amount needed, and a secure way to store your excess gold.
As with gold stacking Platinum would go to the 60,000 mark then you would need a second stack... but hey who would complain!
I would advise the Platinum be a different size then the silver coin to make distinguishing them easy. Or perhaps make it to a bar type image.
I am no expert on game codeing nor how much it would take to do ether system.
No it wont stop dupers.. but it would give the dev a chance to find a way to trace.
I still see a lot of trouble ether way..
The criminal element of our people who prey on others will always be there no matter how hard we try to stop it.
They always seen to find an inside track of how to break the system.
Sorry. Was just being a smart ass again. Having 10 GP equal 1PP would be no different for helping the exchange of funds then they just allow us to write 10 million GP checks. Even with the PP introdution it would be a moments exchange and GP no longer existed. Basic start point is unknown to players the last digit is wiped from every gold stack and check. Across the board every gold hoard is reduced the same. Th day before the gold reduction someone selling a 50 Million GP item will need to do the easy math and realize 50 is now 5 in the new world. And looting a GD for the gold is just as good as skinning it for hides & scale.
If such platinum coins stack, that would be dupers heaven...
Its much more easer to track a new item then an old one..
I am quite sure the Dev could come up with a way to recode the Platinum coins and make them more traceable..
And don't you think the dev are smart enough to watch the sellers and books dropped for unusual offerings of said coins?
Or here is a secondary idea that the Platinum can only be made and stacked in ones bank and must remain in bank. All trades would take a bank transfer with a cursor option to target the one you wish to pay.
I am quite sure the Dev could come up with a way to recode the Platinum coins and make them more traceable..
And don't you think the dev are smart enough to watch the sellers and books dropped for unusual offerings of said coins?
Or here is a secondary idea that the Platinum can only be made and stacked in ones bank and must remain in bank. All trades would take a bank transfer with a cursor option to target the one you wish to pay.
New checks don't necessarily mean duping. I might have a big item on my vendor, or keep gold on there for months and then finally cash out.
You have an interesting idea about specifically targeting a platinum coin, and it works well with the coins being non-stackable. Make any vendor item 1 million and more require payment in platinum, and the coding wouldn't be hard to transfer a particular item (we do it all the time with player-player exchanges). That still wouldn't deter dupers from working with gold for everything else, though, and then we come back to the problem: platinum coins would be the same as 1 million checks, and there must be a way honest players can convert back and forth.
Wanna beat dupers? Make everything they offer easier and cheaper,I bet theirs more cheaters than UO employees,they have strength in numbers.in essence the only way to stop them is shut it down,or make it useless for them to bother
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same developers that let us place rtb houses on non paying accounts for many years each year it came up
Where is the logic behind that? Both old and new items are just an entry in a database. If you add special logic for one record, you add this logic for all records in the same table.
What's the point of introducing a new item, when the old one could be made traceable too?
How is a book related with such a coin? There is just text in a book. No reference to an item...
Now stacking is cool. So if you have 3 coins with individual information, it all would vanish, when you put them together on a stack. That is called money laundering.
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Good luck bud. You cannot try to reason with someone who has no clue and is just throwing random darts hoping that one sticks
Goldberg Hush child... If you cant say something nice don't open your beak.
Thrakkar as for your inquiry:
1. There is a glut of checks in hand and around the shards that would I think need to be banked and remade before I think it was that a dev said a new code would be applied.
2. Same answer here as #1 it's why they meaning the dev said they had no clue of the amount of gold in hand. Though I bet they could if motivated enough could find out.
3. I said the Dev could keep watch on the sites that sell gold and also read the books dropped in game to get an idea of... Think if you were trying to get a feel for how something is being abused where would you look? Me .. i'd be logging in sites that advertise in and at the players of the game to see what exactly is being done.
You know some of them have to have a link to some of the Duping.
4. oi vey.... The stack would be a code as well... or do you think codes disappear once stacked? It recodes to new. As I said Platinum could be used for in your bank account only for keeping.. and only transferred to another via a in bank macro with both present. Then also for home purchase a second macro could be set up for home trades using the banker with a payment transfer the house account owner would set price in the window and the buyer would ok the amount and the same type of gump window would show for trade and once ok'ed the house would be the buyers... There are ways to get around things without removal of gold from game..
Also a addition to the vendor gump could be a option to debit the bank for a set gold amount.. that would fix the need to drop gold on them...
Thrakkar as for your inquiry:
1. There is a glut of checks in hand and around the shards that would I think need to be banked and remade before I think it was that a dev said a new code would be applied.
2. Same answer here as #1 it's why they meaning the dev said they had no clue of the amount of gold in hand. Though I bet they could if motivated enough could find out.
3. I said the Dev could keep watch on the sites that sell gold and also read the books dropped in game to get an idea of... Think if you were trying to get a feel for how something is being abused where would you look? Me .. i'd be logging in sites that advertise in and at the players of the game to see what exactly is being done.
You know some of them have to have a link to some of the Duping.
4. oi vey.... The stack would be a code as well... or do you think codes disappear once stacked? It recodes to new. As I said Platinum could be used for in your bank account only for keeping.. and only transferred to another via a in bank macro with both present. Then also for home purchase a second macro could be set up for home trades using the banker with a payment transfer the house account owner would set price in the window and the buyer would ok the amount and the same type of gump window would show for trade and once ok'ed the house would be the buyers... There are ways to get around things without removal of gold from game..
Also a addition to the vendor gump could be a option to debit the bank for a set gold amount.. that would fix the need to drop gold on them...
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I think it's time to call a halt to this.
Suppose we wait and see how the devs plan to implement this before we tear any more chunks out of each other.
Suppose we wait and see how the devs plan to implement this before we tear any more chunks out of each other.
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