You must be stealing then at random , run up use steal macro and try for something, best way get snooping , stealth up open backpack, walk few tiles away, set uoa macro's for the items you want, then stealth back up hit macro take item , run hide, rinse and repeat..Works awesome that way.. I have not tested it for powerscrolls but later today I will try to set macro up for item type for them .
People run thief scripts? To steal all 10 bandages..? HACKERS!
That sounds like it could be abused way too easily... If scripted - it could be as bad as duping gold.
Replicas was more of a joke..the gold I was saying you steal from one to you..one loses gold one gains maybe at a 5% house fee if anything it'll take gold out of this extremely inflated economy because of the dupers..insurance needs a good looking at too..way to cheap in today's economy
Sorry - the way I read your post - it looked like you had it set up to where one player with two account stealing the gold back and forth could endlessly increase it. I'm all for major gold-sinks.
Snooping is like tactics for warriors, or eval int for mages: you need the second skill.
Listen to Gb: why are you so gung-ho about an easy steal? Invest the other 100 points and pick your targets carefully.
It is working correctly you are trying to steal ANY itme in the bag, how do you konw it isnt also a missed target like a blesses item, you dont. You want ot be a thief use the skill snooping and target an item, if not you risk targeting an insured / blessed item. That s the risk YOU chose to take.
He knows it's not blessed because he said he tested it.
I dont care if he random steals i just want him to take the risk he is and deal with it, random stealing fails every so often because he tries and grab an item he cannot take - AS IT SHOULD BE. no need to cater to him because he doesn't want to use snooping.
So, you want the 'random steal' to target something that is stealable instantly??? Its like saying i buy a lottery ticket - and it has to be a winning ticket.
I would go back and forth with you about it but we aren't going to agree no matter what the other says.
He wants random steal to only target things that are able to be stolen. He's not asking anything unreasonable, he doesn't want the ability to steal insured items.
You actually make the point for us. By definition, whatever a thief would be able to random steal would almost always be valuable non-insurables like bandages, potions, and petals. Or do you think we should go back to the old, old days when people carried a lot of bowls and other junk in their backpacks? It would help deter snooping, depending on which items were shown in front, which actually helped promote random stealing at the bank.
But we aren't talking about failing. We are talking about the game mechanics attempting to steal something that is insured.
"Failing" means a lack of success. It means that the attempt to steal something FAILED because the item is insured.
Of course it's a relative term. Try telling a non-chiv dexxer that his bandages aren't valuable, or a mage's refresh potions. If you're able to steal only what isn't blessed or insured, a few tries is bound to get something critical.
They still hit the problem of items being too heavy, being in containers, traps and the most important one - they didn't automatically get the most valuable item, just a random pick. If Mr Thiefy wanted something specific they had to snoop from then steal that item with a targeted steal. A lot of PvPers walk around with the most insane amount of crap in their backpacks. If you want to thwart random steals just make lots of piles of bandies and potions. Then the chances are the thief gets those and not the good stuff. Thieves *might* hit jackpot on the first go, but if they don't, you know the thief is around and you need to thief proof yourself quickly. You have the chance of killing the rogue before his timer lets him try again and you won't get a count from him even if he's blue.
There are no facts to justify.
How would random stealing at a champ spawn ensure a power scroll? It's called "random" steal for a reason, because it is random. For all the thief knows, he/she could get band-aids, regs, gold, pots, random loot from monsters that the players looted, etc...
While multiple piles is an old trick (and I talked about people in the old days doing that to deter thieves), I don't know anyone who PvPs with a backpack full of "junk." Are you talking about bandages? Potions? Scrolls? Junk weapons? Bowls, like in the old days?Before insurance, guess what... if it wasn't too heavy etc, thieves could random steal it. It still wasn't a guaranteed success
When I first started playing, there were three types of thieves:
No disagreement from me on the rest, especially about lazy thieves...
For what's invested, it's still too high a probability of getting something good. It's back to the days of bank thieves who lost little for being so annoying at minimum, and sometimes would grab something good.
I think there should be a greater chance of getting caught, but not to fail completely. Someone above mentioned a chained wallet. If I grab a wallet chained to a huge guy on a Harley I am going to get caught and probably beaten up. LOL
