I trained a lvl 10 mare thing, got a call to arms and was all alone, I can't heal my pet with cleansing winds fast enough as I'm mainly a throwing character and he died quickly.. Waste of time IMO
They could be confused, but maye they arent. I am not saying you didnt get that email. Thankfully the human race has been here for awhile and we have something called History. Lemme relate your one time 15 year old letter about Griefing to something like Slavery. You know back in Roman days it was legal to own a slave. Now it isnt.Weins201
Sweety I wish my first HD didnt get fried cause I had the bloody e mail and Screenshot of the reply I got. I think your confused.
Griefing has been over the years used by many in UO, generaly GM's will not do much to help you. But if it crosses into Harrassment.... then they can step in.
Griefing and harrassment are two different things, and I think you got them mixed up. Griefing is where a person or group kill or take things that others are after sometimes to the other partys upset as its before they can... its general not aimed at any one person. Harrassment is where its deliberate and aimed at one person or group over and over. Its where you are being singled out.
wont let you go alone. the others were lost or slow. move your cursor over the diamond & it will tell you how strong your army is. 1100 is a group of 6-8I trained a lvl 10 mare thing, got a call to arms and was all alone, I can't heal my pet with cleansing winds fast enough as I'm mainly a throwing character and he died quickly.. Waste of time IMO
Yes, it will teleport just one player down, it has happened to me several times. I clear the lower level for hearts when it happens so I am certain no one else was there and just lost.wont let you go alone. the others were lost or slow. move your cursor over the diamond & it will tell you how strong your army is. 1100 is a group of 6-8
Screenshots I submitted to ea.
Kylie is 100% correct. I was in Despise that night and warned him of the players doing it. I have run into these guys in Fel as well and they usually play PK characters, they all have some version of Panda in there name. They typically wait until the last wave of champ spawns and attack while you are surrounded by monsters.It wasn't your fault; they'll will aggro by default not because of them being grey, but because they have opposing Karma, and AI creatures have always fought due to that mechanic. It's also why you'll see potential pets at above Level 1, as they'll automatically fight any opposing creatures on their level. Furthermore, if someone is Karma flipping to get to L15 (which there's an incentive to do so, to ensure you get taken in Call To Arms, and can do the most damage to top that artifact roll table) you'll get aggressive player mobs of both Karma types on both levels. Thus if theirs is on aggressive, there's very little you can do or anywhere you can go to avoid it.
As you play Europa too, you will have perhaps have seen tonight's rather sad spectacle of a group of players trying to keep the cold winds of self realisation away by bragging in General Chat how "griefing trammies is so much more fun than PvP", for at least 3 hours continuously as they rolled about Despise. Let me just point out one further problem then with Despise then; Return To Britannia. Instead of celebrating 15 years of gaming together, expect to see a lot of accounts being re-opened, completely cost free, to relive the good old Dread Lord days, or simply to take vengeance on Trammel, because we all know it's Trammel's fault the hot chicks at the bar aren't impressed with the length of your virtual sword... but if the Devs don't get a grip on Despise pretty soon, they're going to poison their own Anniversary waters with it.
The gifts however were lovely, and I've only had one semi-duff trade all day (someone forgot to swap a second bag), so I've managed to thoroughly spruce up my home, whilst meeting lots of lovely new people across multiple shards.
I do the same to collect hearts when I get teleported alone.Yes, it will teleport just one player down, it has happened to me several times. I clear the lower level for hearts when it happens so I am certain no one else was there and just lost.
0 Yeah, dont be sarcastic. I dont play around.lol good luck with that
NO it wont! if your the only one there; the other player/players left or died, crashed, ect.Yes, it will teleport just one player down, it has happened to me several times. I clear the lower level for hearts when it happens so I am certain no one else was there and just lost.
0 Yeah, dont be sarcastic. I dont play around.
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Your screenshots hardly show anything, and then you include that he is "speedhacking" in your report?
*rolls eyes*
Every GM page has come back "This is intended".
Btw - Everyone can see your email + name as you have failed to block it out.
Just take my word for it, gost gm's aRe watching and I have many emails. Stop tolling and accept the fact grievers are not welcome.Your screenshots hardly show anything, and then you include that he is "speedhacking" in your report?
*rolls eyes*
Every GM page has come back "This is intended".
Btw - Everyone can see your email + name as you have failed to block it out.
If you train a caster type and have your sampire tank and leech from the wisp, you should be fine.Oh yeah, if you're not a mage don't even show up. If you've got like one main and he's a sampire, just forget this even exists.
You are wrong. No other way to say it. It WILL teleport a single player with a high level pet down.NO it wont! if your the only one there; the other player/players left or died, crashed, ect.
It does not happen every time. I have tried with a level 15 pet which is total of 225 points which is under the total of army force of 300 to be able to enter Call to Arms area and I could not get in. I have to run 2 chars when the dungeon is empty just to get in the area.You are wrong. No other way to say it. It WILL teleport a single player with a high level pet down.
I am curious where you found the information regarding the 300 point minimum requirement. I am certain I have been pulled down more than once all alone. I also know that they have not fixed the bug where you get ejected is some areas of the dungeon.It does not happen every time. I have tried with a level 15 pet which is total of 225 points which is under the total of army force of 300 to be able to enter Call to Arms area and I could not get in. I have to run 2 chars when the dungeon is empty just to get in the area.
That is a lie. I have friends who have paged, and the GM's give the same response each time saying everything is working as "intended".Just take my word for it, gost gm's aRe watching and I have many emails. Stop tolling and accept the fact grievers are not welcome.
I do not think anyone has said everyone who kills pets is using a speedhack. In this case he is saying one group of people are and I saw it happening on the same night as him. Were you there?That is a lie. I have friends who have paged, and the GM's give the same response each time saying everything is working as "intended".
And lets not start accusing everyone that kills a pet is using a speedhack lol cmon people
I didn't say he was wrong, I said he wasn't to blame for his own pet getting into fights as the Karma system means even if you try and avoid others, your pet has an inclination to attack over and above the leash settings, which means if someone else's badly controlled pet starts a fight, you'll struggle to pull yours off and away as effectively.Kylie is 100% correct. I was in Despise that night and warned him of the players doing it. I have run into these guys in Fel as well and they usually play PK characters, they all have some version of Panda in there name. They typically wait until the last wave of champ spawns and attack while you are surrounded by monsters.
I was reading the the guide wrong online. There is apparently no min Army Power required, its just based on if the other side have a higher Army Power than your side. So if no one is on the opposing side, you could end up in there alone by yourself.I am curious where you found the information regarding the 300 point minimum requirement. I am certain I have been pulled down more than once all alone. I also know that they have not fixed the bug where you get ejected is some areas of the dungeon.
I agree that the ability to kill other players pets is inconsistent with the premise of the tram facet, particularly when it is people from your own army doing once everyone has been teleported down just to force them out of the boss encounter. As long as people can increase their own odds for a drop by forcing other people out it will continue to happen.I was reading the the guide wrong online. There is apparently no min Army Power required, its just based on if the other side have a higher Army Power than your side. So if no one is on the opposing side, you could end up in there alone by yourself.
Maybe that is why people on the opposing sides are killing pets so they can get their Call to Arms instead of the other side. (Maybe that is why GMs are saying that it is intended?) It still does not explain the players that are just killing the pets for fun though.
Thanks for trying.Nope, Looks like I was completely wrong. In game GM said that pet killing was ok and part of the game. All further attemps by means of online chat and phone have resulted in red tape and nothing but short anwsers. Directing me back to web site to subit a report. Phone call result in 2 hours waits and each time the voice over says 70 min wait time. This is worse than calling the IRS, the music is so loud i have to turn my phone down to like lvl3.
So basicly grieve away, go insaine trying to lvl up a pet. So you pop fasrt grieve away, you win! Have at it..
Update: Phone call came in from EA. They are putting me intouch with the dev's studio where he said they can replay the the last 48 hours in despise like film.
Yah know I didnt want this drama, but I felt the need to inform UO customers here. I could careless about despise now thaT I have what I went after. I hate it for the others that have to put up with it. I am sick of the cheating/ Gost Cams/ duping/ hurrasment by mean of exploiting the game mechanics.
I have been told other players have filed reports. so I am about at the end of the rope and Ill guess I just have to leave the area every time a cheater come into my range. 0 How fun. check out this humble chat....
Sep 4, 2012 3:19:19 PM EST
Duration (actual chatting time)
00:34:30
Operator
Shobhit
Chat Transcript
Shobhit: Thanks for contacting EA Help! My name is Shobhit how may I help you?
you: evening
you: i need some help
you: I need to speak to someone about ultima online
Shobhit: Okay
you: are you quallified?
Shobhit: yES
you: I sumbited a report on grieving
you: and was old by ingame GM that it was apart of the game
you: The new event despise
you: Case: ########
Shobhit: please contact through phone support for ultima online, here is the number 1-866-543-5435
you: why cant we speak about it here
you: so I can get a transcript
Shobhit: I am sorry we have different support for ultima online so please contact us through phone
you: I just asked if you were quallifed
you: and you said yes
you: I dont want to be put on hold for 2 hours
you: Ive been a good customer for 11 yrs
Shobhit: Please contact through phone support for the issue
you: called that number and a message came over saying I need to vist the web site
you: so here I am, are you going to find me help?
Shobhit: please try to call aftersome time.
you: I just did
you: so you want me to continue to keep trying to call
Shobhit: Yes
you: and if I spend all day trying to call only to get a message, do want me to come back here
Shobhit: Yes
Shobhit: If you need help with anything else, please feel free to contact us anytime!
you: so you just going to shove me off, huh
you: man, really... a customer for 11yrs years and when I need help i cant get it
you: just told you i got a message said to contact the web site...
you: and that going to bring back here
you: I am not going around in circles
you: trying to get help
you: so are you going to tell me what I need to know?
you: i want a number straight to a supervisor
Shobhit: 1-866-543-5435
Shobhit: Thank you for contacting EA. Is there anything else I can help you with today?
you: thats not a direct number
Shobhit: Yes it is
Shobhit: If you need help with anything else, please feel free to contact us anytime!
Shobhit: Thank you for choosing EA Customer Experience
you: how rude
Shobhit: No
So thus far the above Poster was right, not an easy task. But hey I am humbled with clear conscience and I guess it ok to cheat/hack what ever you want to do.
Guess I will have to see what happens in this next round... so much effort to get a clear answer or a fix to depise.
I wont report on this subject again unless some real info comes up.
so inshort, not matter my intentions It sure seems I was misguided. I should Have just stayed away from uo when I was gone, but no00oo I had to come back.
Good Luck & get pleanty of asprin...
Update: Phone call came in from EA. They are putting me intouch with the dev's studio where he said they can replay the the last 48 hours in despise like film.
How about they just put the next batch of new arties in Doom so we can do something fun instead of this sloppy sub-freeshard nonsense.If you train a caster type and have your sampire tank and leech from the wisp, you should be fine.
Leveling pets might be tricky but if you anchor the pet properly and then have stuff attacking you while your pet deals damage, you can level the pet without too much issue.
Set your pet as defensive and try to lure one enemy at a time by either flagging or teleporting. A lvl 10 mare should be rather robust, though.I trained a lvl 10 mare thing, got a call to arms and was all alone, I can't heal my pet with cleansing winds fast enough as I'm mainly a throwing character and he died quickly.. Waste of time IMO
Following the whole power issue, I've been called down, alone, as low as LVL 6 I believe. Keep in mind I was on Origin or TC, and therefore I was likely the only player on, in general, lol.I was reading the the guide wrong online. There is apparently no min Army Power required, its just based on if the other side have a higher Army Power than your side. So if no one is on the opposing side, you could end up in there alone by yourself.
Maybe that is why people on the opposing sides are killing pets so they can get their Call to Arms instead of the other side. (Maybe that is why GMs are saying that it is intended?) It still does not explain the players that are just killing the pets for fun though.
I've seen as low as Level 1 creatures in the final level and I once got teleported with a level 3 creature. Not sure who said that, there is nothing about it on stratics or uoguide, the only limit I know is that you cant take control of a creature after level 5 (or 6?).There is definitely a level limit on when you can initiate conscription, and if you aren't past that limit you can't go. I've heard of people waiting and waiting after the summon message and not being able to go after the wait period. I'm not sure if that's a reflection of people losing pets within the 60 second time frame or what?
Not sure if this is accurate or not... I have trained up a pet on my bard to level 10 and then released it and claimed it on my thrower without issue.the only limit I know is that you cant take control of a creature after level 5 (or 6?).
I controlled a level 15 pet released by someone else just last night...... so I really think the level limit to control thing is not really accurate.Not sure if this is accurate or not... I have trained up a pet on my bard to level 10 and then released it and claimed it on my thrower without issue.
Nope, Looks like I was completely wrong. In game GM said that pet killing was ok and part of the game. All further attemps by means of online chat and phone have resulted in red tape and nothing but short anwsers. Directing me back to web site to subit a report. Phone call result in 2 hours waits and each time the voice over says 70 min wait time. This is worse than calling the IRS, the music is so loud i have to turn my phone down to like lvl3.
So basicly grieve away, go insaine trying to lvl up a pet. So you pop fasrt grieve away, you win! Have at it..
Update: Phone call came in from EA. They are putting me intouch with the dev's studio where he said they can replay the the last 48 hours in despise like film.
Yah know I didnt want this drama, but I felt the need to inform UO customers here. I could careless about despise now thaT I have what I went after. I hate it for the others that have to put up with it. I am sick of the cheating/ Gost Cams/ duping/ hurrasment by mean of exploiting the game mechanics.
I have been told other players have filed reports. so I am about at the end of the rope and Ill guess I just have to leave the area every time a cheater come into my range. 0 How fun. check out this humble chat....
Sep 4, 2012 3:19:19 PM EST
Duration (actual chatting time)
00:34:30
Operator
Shobhit
Chat Transcript
Shobhit: Thanks for contacting EA Help! My name is Shobhit how may I help you?
you: evening
you: i need some help
you: I need to speak to someone about ultima online
Shobhit: Okay
you: are you quallified?
Shobhit: yES
you: I sumbited a report on grieving
you: and was old by ingame GM that it was apart of the game
you: The new event despise
you: Case: ########
Shobhit: please contact through phone support for ultima online, here is the number 1-866-543-5435
you: why cant we speak about it here
you: so I can get a transcript
Shobhit: I am sorry we have different support for ultima online so please contact us through phone
you: I just asked if you were quallifed
you: and you said yes
you: I dont want to be put on hold for 2 hours
you: Ive been a good customer for 11 yrs
Shobhit: Please contact through phone support for the issue
you: called that number and a message came over saying I need to vist the web site
you: so here I am, are you going to find me help?
Shobhit: please try to call aftersome time.
you: I just did
you: so you want me to continue to keep trying to call
Shobhit: Yes
you: and if I spend all day trying to call only to get a message, do want me to come back here
Shobhit: Yes
Shobhit: If you need help with anything else, please feel free to contact us anytime!
you: so you just going to shove me off, huh
you: man, really... a customer for 11yrs years and when I need help i cant get it
you: just told you i got a message said to contact the web site...
you: and that going to bring back here
you: I am not going around in circles
you: trying to get help
you: so are you going to tell me what I need to know?
you: i want a number straight to a supervisor
Shobhit: 1-866-543-5435
Shobhit: Thank you for contacting EA. Is there anything else I can help you with today?
you: thats not a direct number
Shobhit: Yes it is
Shobhit: If you need help with anything else, please feel free to contact us anytime!
Shobhit: Thank you for choosing EA Customer Experience
you: how rude
Shobhit: No
So thus far the above Poster was right, not an easy task. But hey I am humbled with clear conscience and I guess it ok to cheat/hack what ever you want to do.
Guess I will have to see what happens in this next round... so much effort to get a clear answer or a fix to depise.
I wont report on this subject again unless some real info comes up.
so inshort, not matter my intentions It sure seems I was misguided. I should Have just stayed away from uo when I was gone, but no00oo I had to come back.
Good Luck & get pleanty of asprin...
Not sure if this is accurate or not... I have trained up a pet on my bard to level 10 and then released it and claimed it on my thrower without issue.
I remember not being able to control a low level creature before, but I went and tested and was able to control a creature at level 6 that were not even controlled by anyone before (it was hard to train a creature without actually controlling it). I'm not sure what that special circumstances were but they either fixed it or I don't remember it clearly.I controlled a level 15 pet released by someone else just last night...... so I really think the level limit to control thing is not really accurate.
hmm well a gray pet needs to earn up to level 4-5 before it goes blue, yeah? or that amount of karma change, it seems (for the LVL 15s).I've seen as low as Level 1 creatures in the final level and I once got teleported with a level 3 creature. Not sure who said that, there is nothing about it on stratics or uoguide, the only limit I know is that you cant take control of a creature after level 5 (or 6?).