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A heads up to new/returning players about scripting

Adrianas

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We know that on prodo shards it is harder to 'catch' scripters. But on Siege Perilous, there is something that players can do in addition to calling a GM - they can (and will) kill you.

Most players on Siege are vehemently anti-scripting because scripting resources impacts our healthy economy. So red or blue, faction or non-faction, on Siege 99% of the players will kill on sight any player they find scripting. I haven't killed any myself recently, but I've heard that with this recent influx of new and returning players there has been some scripters found (and killed) by others. Oh, and not only will they kill the scripter - they will alert everyone else (including all the reds) of exactly where they have found a player scripting.

So this is just a friendly head's up. Siege openly welcomes new or returning players and we are generous in helping new people learn how the shard works. But this is one way that it 'works' - scripters are not just reported, they are 'dealt' with.

End of public service announcement.
 

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Yes even I will kill scripters if I find them in my houses, afk and active training after first warning an I will remove them from the house first time I see it. One NEW2 was standing under the house sign to the Inn for hours scripting. He was lucky Tina Tink did not want to mess with the guards, else I think I wouldd had killed him and dropped the gear in the secures until he was back.

Had it been at the mining house, I'm sure a wisps would had handled the problem nicely :p
 

Revvo

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We know that on prodo shards it is harder to 'catch' scripters. But on Siege Perilous, there is something that players can do in addition to calling a GM - they can (and will) kill you.

Most players on Siege are vehemently anti-scripting because scripting resources impacts our healthy economy. So red or blue, faction or non-faction, on Siege 99% of the players will kill on sight any player they find scripting. I haven't killed any myself recently, but I've heard that with this recent influx of new and returning players there has been some scripters found (and killed) by others. Oh, and not only will they kill the scripter - they will alert everyone else (including all the reds) of exactly where they have found a player scripting.

So this is just a friendly head's up. Siege openly welcomes new or returning players and we are generous in helping new people learn how the shard works. But this is one way that it 'works' - scripters are not just reported, they are 'dealt' with.

End of public service announcement.

I would imagine a scripter would probably not script in the same place if they were killed there by another player and also if they are dead they will log out and not be actively scripting so when the gm eventually turns up if at all they will see nothing wrong, the intelligent thing to do is get as many people as possible to page on them and leave them alive and scripting while waiting for a gm. If they are doing something requiring movement just block them in with boxes or something to stop them so they aren't gaining anything and wait.

You may consider gaining skills afk and farming resources afk are the same evil but if someone is just gaining skills so they can actively play Siege and increase the population then i personally consider that a lesser evil than resource farming to destroy the economy, but then i'm pretty sure at least a few people on Siege prefer it to be low population so they don't have competition :)
 

CorwinWE2

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Has something changed on Siege? Last I knew - logging on was sufficient reason to try to kill someone. :)

If you AFK macro'd you knew you'd better find a good spot or else you'd find yourself dead and your stuff gone when you got back.
 

chise2

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Has something changed on Siege? Last I knew - logging on was sufficient reason to try to kill someone. :)

If you AFK macro'd you knew you'd better find a good spot or else you'd find yourself dead and your stuff gone when you got back.
Yeah but we get new folks that donlt realize that and pay for it hehe. ;)
 

Rizarium

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Has something changed on Siege? Last I knew - logging on was sufficient reason to try to kill someone. :)

If you AFK macro'd you knew you'd better find a good spot or else you'd find yourself dead and your stuff gone when you got back.

Corwin long time no see *salute*
 

CorwinWE2

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Thanks - I still click around the board occasionally to see what's going on. I've managed to keep myself away from the multi-player game addiction for a while, though.
 

FrejaSP

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Corwin so good to see you, dig up your old char and start to play again
 

Freelsy

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I LOL at all this. GILFANE threatening to kill someone? My scripting chars would pwnz the hell out of your entire guild 1 v 50! However, with that said, the best part about scripting is waiting for someone to come by while you're also logged in with your PvP character.

Keep up the good threats.... GILFANE :grouphug:
 

CorwinWE2

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Corwin so good to see you, dig up your old char and start to play again
Be sure to PM me if UO ever switches to the free-to-play model. I suppose my old characters might still be around, I never did sell them, but I've got to imagine they'd be next to worthless after so many years of itemitis.
 

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The tower is still there.
 

kelmo

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And the arcane gloves we looted from you is still one of my treasures.
 

FrejaSP

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Be sure to PM me if UO ever switches to the free-to-play model. I suppose my old characters might still be around, I never did sell them, but I've got to imagine they'd be next to worthless after so many years of itemitis.
RoT is much faster now so a little work and you will be up running again.
free-to-play is not really free, as the game still need money to improve and you will have to buy items for cash instead.
We had got some great updates the last years, devs do not work for free.
 

CorwinWE2

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The problem with UO is not only was I paying every month to play the game, but I also had to buy multiple copies of the game to get items and also waste way my time farming for items to stay competitive. When they started selling UO like a drug dealer sells crack, they went too far.

At least under the "free to play" model, I can choose to not be competitive and save the bucks.
 

Revvo

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Yeah Block those darn Scriptors from moving.....And then when you Page the GM to show off your handy work, and how you blocked someones movement, GUESS what happens! you violated the blah blah blah thing, and your breaking the rules! I've seen more accounts get banned lately for blocking a scriptor then the scriptor getting banned. When a GM approaches a toon accused of scripting, they ask certain keywords, and they have certain titles, and ID's the scriptors have scripts looking for those things, and they know how to respond to the Pages. If your job is to monitor multiple online games each day, because they aren't Customer Service Reps for only UO only.(these GM's are GM's for a ton of games) Would you rather get rid of the one complaining and paging all the time, or the "cheater" Yeah, the poeple who get "paged" on get remarks on there accounts about the activity they are doing, but so does the One who Paged. Have you ever worked in a place where there is one person always freaking out about how all his/her coworkers aren't following the rules? After awhile the boss stops listening to that person. We had a employee where I work Start accusing every other guy here of S.H. she wore provocative clothes and was very well endowed, and not afraid to show half of it off.....well if you looked at her and she thought you were oogling her, off to HR she went to file a S.H. on you. she no longer works here, she became a nuisance. the guys that got repremanded got apologies, (honestly some shouldn't have) from the employer, and we adjusted our policy. The same happens in this scenario. these people are in cubicles, answering ******** questions from multiple game users on multiple platforms, all day, just listening to people complain about video games. and you think they are going to be on your side? The next time you get to speak to a GM or CSR(which is what I have seen more then GM's) ask them if they play, or have ever played UO, and ask them how many people are in there office, and what country they are in, and what there native language is. Do you think the wait times for a GM/CSR to show up is because of all the other UO only pages? When will you figure out the page buttons isn't the answer. You want to stop scriptors from selling resources? Stop buying them. If a scriptor finds a good market they gonna stay and feed that market. If that market goes sour, they gonna move on. wait, you just found ascreaming good deal on :type in a 60k commodity deed here: and you are afraid if you don't buy it someone else will. so you buy it. Good job you just helped a scriptor! Way to go!! Otherwise get your own resources. plain and simple. or make video of you getting the resources, and prove you aren't a scriptor. and then sell it. Cheers!

P.s. would you like to see Screenshots of GIL members I found Blatantly scripting? That will cost you..... Or video? Woo, now the tables have turned I feel. They aren't free though.
Maybe i'm reading too much into but... is anyone else reading between the lines of this rant??
 

Revvo

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I'd also like to extend my invitation to any "scripters". Come join this fun share called Siege! We would like to have a bigger population! More peeps around, would be nice. Don't mind the nay Sayers they just couldn't figure out how to write there own things. And they are very stuck in there ways. I find it strange how bitterly you complain right up until you buy the scripted goods. Ian sir,
How about for starters post publicly your entire guild roster? And have all your GIL pride
Bashers include there GIL pride guild tag? They script and hide behind anonymity. Just a thought. Or maybe you guys could ask for help from one of those sites. They might show you how to do it for yourself. Just sayin.
I fail to believe that someone stupid enough to get repeatedly caught scripting in the same place and have such a weak grasp of the English language is smart enough to construct said scripts himself :)
 

Revvo

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It appears Siege justice is working as intended, no need to keep the thread open :)
 

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This thread has a good message. Do not cheat.

*chuckles* Do not get caught cheating on Siege.
 

RueTor

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Ok…This thread is a tad ripe, so I couldn’t resist J (http://www.pakin.org/complaint/)

RueTor



My complaint about Scriptors

As much as some people may disagree with the following observations, I stand firmly by them. Let me begin by citing a range of examples from the public sphere. For starters, those who fan the flames of Scriptors's firestorm of denominationalism should not be surprised if they get burnt. Nevertheless, I can state with absolute certainty that Scriptors's helpers have the audacity to cause a marked deterioration in our literature, amusements, and social conduct. You don't need to be the smartest guy on the planet to figure that out. Heck, even the lowliest Joe Six-Pack knows that Scriptors insists that it's okay if his apologues initially cause our quality of life to degrade because "sometime", "someone" will do "something" "somehow" to counteract that trend. This is a rather strong notion from someone who knows so little about the subject.

Despite what you may have been taught in school, if we can understand what has caused the current plague of the most ghastly haggersnashes I've ever seen, I believe that we can then clear the cobwebs out of people's heads and help them understand that Scriptors's ability to reason from premise to conclusion is nearly non-existent. Scriptors adamantly maintains that his activities are on the up-and-up. Such beliefs would be totally factual if it weren't for reality. As it stands, Scriptors reports the news selectively in order to advance his agenda. Get that straight, please. Any other thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, Scriptors has not increased our safety, security, or happiness by corralling his opponents into mini-Bantustans to prevent them from shattering the adage that he can set our national thermostat to its maximum degree of gangsterism and get away with it. All he's increased by doing that is the girth of his bloated ego.

Scriptors has never tried to stop voluble fribbles who crush the will of all individuals who have expressed political and intellectual opposition to his pronouncements. In fact, quite the opposite is true: Scriptors encourages that sort of behavior. Although the dialectics of longiloquent praxis will harvest what others have sown sooner or later, I'm sure he wouldn't want me to eavesdrop on his conversations. So why does Scriptors want to promote a temerarious jujuism? That happens to be a matter on which I do not care to venture either an opinion or a guess. I do, however, feel that I should state that Scriptors once had the audacity to tell me that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. My riposte was that this is just simple math. That is, if A is more tendentious than B, and B is more tendentious than C, then A is more tendentious than C, right? In case you don't have the secret decoder ring, A is a disgusting, prolix tightwad; B is an ostentatious suborner of perjury; and C is Scriptors.

The world is full of people who reduce human beings to the status of domestic animals. We don't need any more people like that. What we need are people who are willing to study the problem and recommend corrective action. We need people who understand that Scriptors's effrontive, stroppy outbursts are responsible for the growth in teen pregnancy, the demise of the work ethic, the size of the federal deficit, and everything else that's wrong with our nation. But the problems with Scriptors's fibs don't end there.

To get even the simplest message into the consciousness of coldhearted ditzes it has to be repeated at least fifty times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following fifty times, but the last time I told Scriptors's dupes that I want to hinder the power of foul parvenus like Scriptors they declared in response, "But granting Scriptors complete control over our lives is as important as breathing air." Of course, they didn't use exactly those words, but that's exactly what they meant. I indubitably don't believe that all any child needs is a big dose of television every day. So when Scriptors says that that's what I believe, I see how little he understands my position.

For proof of this ongoing tragedy one has only to realize that if I have a bias, it is only against unbridled, vicious flimflammers who expand, augment, and intensify the size and intrusiveness of Scriptors's brownshirt brigade. I don't need to tell you that I, not being one of the many clumsy, disorganized dunderheads of this world, stand foursquare in defense of liberty, freedom of speech, and the right to criticize slimy, crime-stained criminal masterminds. That should be self-evident. What is less evident is that Scriptors keeps telling everyone within earshot that at birth every living being is assigned a celestial serial number or frequency power spectrum. I'm guessing that Scriptors read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More reliable sources generally indicate that he has tried gagging free speech. He has also tried using threats of fiscal harm to coerce daffy omadhauns into diminishing our will to live. Why does Scriptors do such things? The answer is a bit of a taboo subject, but that won't stop me from telling you. You see, contrary to my personal preferences, I'm thinking about what's best for all of us. My conclusion is that what's best for all of us is for me to go placidly amid the noise and haste.

I want to thank Scriptors for his recommendations. They give me an excellent opportunity to illustrate just how huffy Scriptors can be. I have to laugh when he says that everyone who doesn't share his beliefs is an intolerant money-worshipper deserving of death and damnation. Where in the world did he get that idea? Not only does that idea contain absolutely no substance whatsoever, but we are a nation of prostitutes. By this I mean that as long as we are fat, warm, and dry we don't care what Scriptors does. It is precisely that lack of caring that explains why Scriptors sometimes uses the word "unconstitutionality" when describing his plaints. Beware! This is a buzzword designed for emotional response.

Here's an idea: Instead of giving Scriptors the ability to form the association in the public's mind between any values he disagrees with and the ideas of hate and violence and illegality, why don't we ask the tough questions and not shy away from the tough answers? If we do, we'll then be able to oppose our human vices wherever they may be found—arrogance, hatred, jealousy, unfaithfulness, avarice, and so on. One of his favorite dirty tricks is to forge letters from his foes. These forgeries are laced with scandalous "revelations" about everyone Scriptors hates. Such trickery deflects attention from the fact that Scriptors's chargés d'affaires are united by only two things. Want to guess what those are? They're a deep-seated sense of victimization and a burning desire to scorn and abjure reason. Aside from those two things, the members of Scriptors's posse have little in common. Surprisingly, some of them even realize that when you tell Scriptors's confidants that Scriptors's acrasial, lubricious publications can be viewed as the principal threat to our personal freedoms, they begin to get fidgety and their eyes begin to wander. They really don't care. They have no interest in hearing that I seethe with anger whenever I think about his ill-natured, bookish propositions. That said, let me continue.

Caciquism, Zendicism, and plagiarism follow Scriptors's footsteps. Wherever he goes, such things are sure to sprout up. The implication is that scummy, unenlightened prats are somehow fascinated by Scriptors's chauvinistic diablerie, just as a dove is sometimes charmed by a glittering serpent. Unfortunately for such people, Scriptors constantly insists that mediocrity is a worthwhile goal. But he contradicts himself when he says that we should cast our lots with the worst sorts of repressive lunatics there are. I cannot, in good conscience, step aside and let jealous smatchets extract obscene salaries and profits from corporations that consign most of us to the role of Scriptors's servants or slaves. This is equivalent to saying that I have grown tired of watching the repeated handshakes and toothy smiles in front of television cameras and subsequently learning that nothing has truly changed. As always, whenever there's an argument about Scriptors's devotion to principles and to freedom, all one has to do is point out that Scriptors uses vulgar language and makes obscene gestures at those whose opinions differ from his. That should settle the argument pretty quickly.

Pride and solidarity prepare individuals to become partners in an alliance against beer-guzzling mandarinism. No joke. Because of Scriptors's eagerness to participate in riots, if I were to compile a list of his forays into espionage, sabotage, and subversion, it would fill an entire page and perhaps even run over onto the following one. Such a list would surely make every sane person who has passed the age of six realize that I've repeatedly pointed out to Scriptors that he is not at all apologetic for the harm his cronies have caused. That apparently didn't register with him, though. Oh, well; I guess some people have indicated that the result of Scriptors's proposals will not be an increase in achievement but rather a decrease in expectations. I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, but I can say that our national media is controlled by temeritous poltroons. That's why you probably haven't heard that I can really suggest how Scriptors ought to behave. Ultimately, however, the burden of acting with moral rectitude lies with Scriptors himself. In closing, please remember that my ultimate goal is to discuss the programmatic foundations of Scriptors's perverted plans for the future in detail. If I advance, follow me. If I stop, urge me on. If I retreat, kill me.
 

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Guardian KX

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I totally gave up at paragraph 2 when I realized there was 8 to go.

Bottom line... scriptors bad, best you can do is not buy there goods to pay there rent. Force them to get a real job.
 

Luvmylace

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Ok…This thread is a tad ripe, so I couldn’t resist J (http://www.pakin.org/complaint/)

RueTor



My complaint about Scriptors

As much as some people may disagree with the following observations, I stand firmly by them. Let me begin by citing a range of examples from the public sphere. For starters, those who fan the flames of Scriptors's firestorm of denominationalism should not be surprised if they get burnt. Nevertheless, I can state with absolute certainty that Scriptors's helpers have the audacity to cause a marked deterioration in our literature, amusements, and social conduct. You don't need to be the smartest guy on the planet to figure that out. Heck, even the lowliest Joe Six-Pack knows that Scriptors insists that it's okay if his apologues initially cause our quality of life to degrade because "sometime", "someone" will do "something" "somehow" to counteract that trend. This is a rather strong notion from someone who knows so little about the subject.

Despite what you may have been taught in school, if we can understand what has caused the current plague of the most ghastly haggersnashes I've ever seen, I believe that we can then clear the cobwebs out of people's heads and help them understand that Scriptors's ability to reason from premise to conclusion is nearly non-existent. Scriptors adamantly maintains that his activities are on the up-and-up. Such beliefs would be totally factual if it weren't for reality. As it stands, Scriptors reports the news selectively in order to advance his agenda. Get that straight, please. Any other thinking is blame-shoving or responsibility-dodging. Furthermore, Scriptors has not increased our safety, security, or happiness by corralling his opponents into mini-Bantustans to prevent them from shattering the adage that he can set our national thermostat to its maximum degree of gangsterism and get away with it. All he's increased by doing that is the girth of his bloated ego.

Scriptors has never tried to stop voluble fribbles who crush the will of all individuals who have expressed political and intellectual opposition to his pronouncements. In fact, quite the opposite is true: Scriptors encourages that sort of behavior. Although the dialectics of longiloquent praxis will harvest what others have sown sooner or later, I'm sure he wouldn't want me to eavesdrop on his conversations. So why does Scriptors want to promote a temerarious jujuism? That happens to be a matter on which I do not care to venture either an opinion or a guess. I do, however, feel that I should state that Scriptors once had the audacity to tell me that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. My riposte was that this is just simple math. That is, if A is more tendentious than B, and B is more tendentious than C, then A is more tendentious than C, right? In case you don't have the secret decoder ring, A is a disgusting, prolix tightwad; B is an ostentatious suborner of perjury; and C is Scriptors.

The world is full of people who reduce human beings to the status of domestic animals. We don't need any more people like that. What we need are people who are willing to study the problem and recommend corrective action. We need people who understand that Scriptors's effrontive, stroppy outbursts are responsible for the growth in teen pregnancy, the demise of the work ethic, the size of the federal deficit, and everything else that's wrong with our nation. But the problems with Scriptors's fibs don't end there.

To get even the simplest message into the consciousness of coldhearted ditzes it has to be repeated at least fifty times. Now, I don't want to insult your intelligence by telling you the following fifty times, but the last time I told Scriptors's dupes that I want to hinder the power of foul parvenus like Scriptors they declared in response, "But granting Scriptors complete control over our lives is as important as breathing air." Of course, they didn't use exactly those words, but that's exactly what they meant. I indubitably don't believe that all any child needs is a big dose of television every day. So when Scriptors says that that's what I believe, I see how little he understands my position.

For proof of this ongoing tragedy one has only to realize that if I have a bias, it is only against unbridled, vicious flimflammers who expand, augment, and intensify the size and intrusiveness of Scriptors's brownshirt brigade. I don't need to tell you that I, not being one of the many clumsy, disorganized dunderheads of this world, stand foursquare in defense of liberty, freedom of speech, and the right to criticize slimy, crime-stained criminal masterminds. That should be self-evident. What is less evident is that Scriptors keeps telling everyone within earshot that at birth every living being is assigned a celestial serial number or frequency power spectrum. I'm guessing that Scriptors read that on some Web site of dubious validity. More reliable sources generally indicate that he has tried gagging free speech. He has also tried using threats of fiscal harm to coerce daffy omadhauns into diminishing our will to live. Why does Scriptors do such things? The answer is a bit of a taboo subject, but that won't stop me from telling you. You see, contrary to my personal preferences, I'm thinking about what's best for all of us. My conclusion is that what's best for all of us is for me to go placidly amid the noise and haste.

I want to thank Scriptors for his recommendations. They give me an excellent opportunity to illustrate just how huffy Scriptors can be. I have to laugh when he says that everyone who doesn't share his beliefs is an intolerant money-worshipper deserving of death and damnation. Where in the world did he get that idea? Not only does that idea contain absolutely no substance whatsoever, but we are a nation of prostitutes. By this I mean that as long as we are fat, warm, and dry we don't care what Scriptors does. It is precisely that lack of caring that explains why Scriptors sometimes uses the word "unconstitutionality" when describing his plaints. Beware! This is a buzzword designed for emotional response.

Here's an idea: Instead of giving Scriptors the ability to form the association in the public's mind between any values he disagrees with and the ideas of hate and violence and illegality, why don't we ask the tough questions and not shy away from the tough answers? If we do, we'll then be able to oppose our human vices wherever they may be found—arrogance, hatred, jealousy, unfaithfulness, avarice, and so on. One of his favorite dirty tricks is to forge letters from his foes. These forgeries are laced with scandalous "revelations" about everyone Scriptors hates. Such trickery deflects attention from the fact that Scriptors's chargés d'affaires are united by only two things. Want to guess what those are? They're a deep-seated sense of victimization and a burning desire to scorn and abjure reason. Aside from those two things, the members of Scriptors's posse have little in common. Surprisingly, some of them even realize that when you tell Scriptors's confidants that Scriptors's acrasial, lubricious publications can be viewed as the principal threat to our personal freedoms, they begin to get fidgety and their eyes begin to wander. They really don't care. They have no interest in hearing that I seethe with anger whenever I think about his ill-natured, bookish propositions. That said, let me continue.

Caciquism, Zendicism, and plagiarism follow Scriptors's footsteps. Wherever he goes, such things are sure to sprout up. The implication is that scummy, unenlightened prats are somehow fascinated by Scriptors's chauvinistic diablerie, just as a dove is sometimes charmed by a glittering serpent. Unfortunately for such people, Scriptors constantly insists that mediocrity is a worthwhile goal. But he contradicts himself when he says that we should cast our lots with the worst sorts of repressive lunatics there are. I cannot, in good conscience, step aside and let jealous smatchets extract obscene salaries and profits from corporations that consign most of us to the role of Scriptors's servants or slaves. This is equivalent to saying that I have grown tired of watching the repeated handshakes and toothy smiles in front of television cameras and subsequently learning that nothing has truly changed. As always, whenever there's an argument about Scriptors's devotion to principles and to freedom, all one has to do is point out that Scriptors uses vulgar language and makes obscene gestures at those whose opinions differ from his. That should settle the argument pretty quickly.

Pride and solidarity prepare individuals to become partners in an alliance against beer-guzzling mandarinism. No joke. Because of Scriptors's eagerness to participate in riots, if I were to compile a list of his forays into espionage, sabotage, and subversion, it would fill an entire page and perhaps even run over onto the following one. Such a list would surely make every sane person who has passed the age of six realize that I've repeatedly pointed out to Scriptors that he is not at all apologetic for the harm his cronies have caused. That apparently didn't register with him, though. Oh, well; I guess some people have indicated that the result of Scriptors's proposals will not be an increase in achievement but rather a decrease in expectations. I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, but I can say that our national media is controlled by temeritous poltroons. That's why you probably haven't heard that I can really suggest how Scriptors ought to behave. Ultimately, however, the burden of acting with moral rectitude lies with Scriptors himself. In closing, please remember that my ultimate goal is to discuss the programmatic foundations of Scriptors's perverted plans for the future in detail. If I advance, follow me. If I stop, urge me on. If I retreat, kill me.
Language is the primary conductor between your brain and the minds of your audience. Ineffective language weakens and distorts ideas.
 
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PuckOfPacific

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Gather round, kids. Settle down now. And no hitting. I'm going to tell you a story about the way that Guild Gilfane's salacious tractates are forcing our nation to face embarrassment after embarrassment and disaster after disaster. In the first place, Guild Gilfane believes that it is everyone's obligation to fund, assemble, and train the most abysmal hooligans you'll ever see to contaminate clear thinking with his indelicate scribblings. That view is anathema to the cause of liberty. If it is not loudly refuted our future will be dire indeed.
For the sake of the universe, I hope that this is the only planet that contains biggety schnooks like Guild Gilfane. I apologize if the following points are hard to follow but they're quite relevant to the gist of my argument. First, facts and their accuracy make a story, not the overdramatization of whatever Guild Gilfane dreams up. And second, Guild Gilfane's ratiocination skills are nothing to write home about. All of this means, of course, that Guild Gilfane is the hypostatization of totalism. For the benefit of any doubting Thomases I will prove that point via an explanation of how Guild Gilfane wants to get me thrown in jail. He can't cite a specific statute that I've violated, but he does believe that there must be some statute. This tells me that Guild Gilfane claims that everyone and everything discriminates against him—including the writing on the bathroom stalls. I respond that he provides simplistic answers to complex problems.
Let's just ignore Guild Gilfane and see what he does. Individually, his smears spew forth ignorance and prejudice. But linked together, his ruderies could hammer away at the characters of all those who will not help him convince others that spiteful, fractious pauteners are the "chosen people" of scriptural prophecy. He believes that he is perched atop the moral high ground. If so, then maybe Guild Gilfane should climb down to scavenge for some facts before claiming that he is the way, the truth, and the light. Naturally, if we don't focus on concrete facts, on hard news, on analyzing and interpreting what's happening in the world, then he will soon become unstoppable. No borders will be able to detain him. No united global opinion will be able to isolate him. No international police or juridical institutions will be able to interdict him.
If we are powerless to step up to the plate and offer manumission to those who are held captive by Guild Gilfane's garrulous prophecies, it is because we have allowed Guild Gilfane to promote a form of government in which religious freedom, racial equality, and individual liberty are severely at risk. He is decidedly up to something. I don't know exactly what, but Guild Gilfane recently made the astonishing claim that he knows 100% of everything 100% of the time. Stripped of all its hyperbole, this statement is really just saying that Guild Gilfane finds reality too difficult to swallow. Or maybe it just gets lost between the sports and entertainment pages. In either case, trying to keep Guild Gilfane from undermining the intellectual purpose of higher education is a sucker's game. No matter how hard we try to stop him, he'll always find some new way to foment hypocritical forms of political tyranny.
After hearing about Guild Gilfane's heinous attempts to make a cause célèbre out of his campaign to have more impact on Earth's biological, geological, and chemical systems during our lifetime and our children's than all preceding human generations had together, I was saddened. I was saddened that he has lowered himself to this level. Guild Gilfane's drug-induced ravings are evil. They're evil because they cause global warming; they make your teeth fall out; they give you spots; they incite nuclear war. And, as if that weren't enough, I've heard numerous complaints about Guild Gilfane's behavior. Many people I've talked to have complained that Guild Gilfane comports himself like a filthy pig, heedless of all needs but his own. Among these needs the paramount one seems to be the need to transform our society into a selfish war machine. This backs up my point that he appears to have a problem with common sense and logic. It follows from this that someone has to be willing to challenge Guild Gilfane's claims of exceptionalism. Even if it's not polite to do so. Even if it hurts a lot of people's feelings. Even if everyone else is pretending that Guild Gilfane is the ultimate authority on what's right and what's wrong.
Guild Gilfane's goombahs believe that Guild Gilfane has a close-to-perfect existence that's the envy of the wretched mafia dons around him. Although it is perhaps impossible to change the perspective of those who have such beliefs, I wish nevertheless to get the facts out in the hope that somebody else will do something to solve the problem. If he had his way, schools would teach students that Guild Gilfane is a voice of probity. This is not education but indoctrination. It prevents students from learning about how Guild Gilfane's bootlickers are too lazy to name and shame Guild Gilfane's protégés for their inarticulate acts of Mohockism. They just want to sit back, fasten their mouths on the public teats, and casually forget that Guild Gilfane has been known to say that his perorations enhance performance standards, productivity, and competitiveness. That notion is so shambolic, I hardly know where to begin refuting it. While Guild Gilfane is notorious for trying to convince self-indulgent publicity hounds that there is absolutely nothing they can do to better their lot in life besides joining him, those who have most injured and oppressed humanity, who have most deeply sinned against it, are, according to Guild Gilfane's standards and conscience, good people. Apparently, bad people are those who have noticed that Guild Gilfane is absolutely determined to believe that his vaporings are Holy Writ, and he's not about to let facts or reason get in his way.
Guild Gilfane is on some sort of thesaurus-fueled rampage. Every sentence he writes is filled with needlessly long words like "counterexcommunication" and "antianthropomorphism". Either Guild Gilfane is deliberately trying to confuse us or else he's secretly scheming to combine, in a rare mixture, bestial cruelty and an inconceivable gift for lying. I don't want this to sound like sour grapes, but by comparing today to even ten years ago and projecting the course we're on, I'd say we're in for an even more irrational, prodigal, and gutless society, all thanks to Guild Gilfane's paroxysms. Judging by the generally base-minded nature of Guild Gilfane's goons, I can see that I, hardheaded cynic that I am, have one itsy-bitsy problem with Guild Gilfane's insults. Videlicet, they condemn children to a life of drugs, gangs, drinking, ****, incest, verbal abuse, physical abuse, and a number of other horrors. And that's saying nothing about how if I wanted to brainwash and manipulate a large segment of the population, I would convince them that our unalienable rights are merely privileges that Guild Gilfane can dole out or retract. In fact, that's exactly what Guild Gilfane does as part of his quest to label everyone he doesn't like as a racist, sexist, fascist, communist, or some equally terrible "-ist".
Guild Gilfane talks loudly about family values and personal responsibility but when it comes to backing up those words with actions, all he does is subvert time-tested societal norms. I never used to be particularly concerned about his catch-phrases. Any damned fool, or so I thought, could see that you, of course, now need some hard evidence that he has been floating rumors that space aliens are out to lay eggs in our innards or ooze their alien hell-slime all over us. Well, how about this for evidence: Guild Gilfane does not merely purge the land of every non-puerile person, gene, idea, and influence. He does so consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. When people say that bigotry and hate are alive and well, they're right. And Guild Gilfane is to blame.
Currently, Guild Gilfane's put-downs merely enable stuck-up sandbaggers to punch above their weight. As you will see within a short period of time, this is only the tip of a gigantic iceberg. I can't follow Guild Gilfane's pretzel logic. I do, however, know that I've tried to explain to his purblind, prolix satraps that under the guise of stimulating debate and illuminating diverse perspectives, his malisons actually provoke terrible, total, universal, and merciless destruction. As could be expected, they were a bit slow on the uptake. I just couldn't get them to comprehend that Guild Gilfane is a waste product of biological evolution. This just goes to show (to me, at least) that he is absolutely versipellous. When Guild Gilfane is among plebeians, he warms the cockles of their hearts by remonstrating against adventurism. But when he's safely surrounded by his lieutenants, Guild Gilfane instructs them to befuddle the public and make sin seem like merely a sophisticated fashion. That type of cunning two-sidedness tells us that if we serve on the side of Truth then the sea of ultraism, on which Guild Gilfane so heavily relies, will begin to dry up.
Guild Gilfane is doing some pretty vainglorious things. Or, to restate that without meiosis, he doesn't use words for communication or for exchanging information. He uses them to disarm, to hypnotize, to mislead, and to deceive. If, today, the urge of Guild Gilfane's war-soul can prompt him to judge people by the color of their skin while ignoring the content of their character, then imagine, if you can, how that same soul will express itself through the thousandfold-more-yawping Guild Gilfane of tomorrow. The two things I just mentioned—the way that he is not interested in a true and honest improvement of social conditions but rather in a way to impose a narrow theological agenda on secular society, and the fact that I am offended by the way he talks down to me—may sound like they're completely unrelated, but they're not. The common link is that documents written by his vassals typically include the line, "Guild Gilfane's writings are a veritable encyclopedia of everything that is directly pertinent to mankind's spiritual and intellectual development", in large, 30-point type, as if the size of the font gives weight to the words. In reality, all that that fancy formatting really does is underscore the fact that if everyone does his own, small part, together we can acquire the input of a representative cross-section of the community in a non-threatening, inclusive environment. Let me leave you with one last thought: I, speaking as someone who is not a dour quidnunc, firmly believe that by exploiting social discontent and promising a golden age of "human brotherhood", Guild Gilfane will be successful in his attempts to destroy, debauch, devalue, and dehumanize a wide assortment of innocent people.
 

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Here's a letter that dares not let Guild Gilfane off the hook. It's all here: the compromises, the backstabbing, the attempts to shrink the so-called marketplace of ideas down to convenience-store size. Here's the story: It likes assailing all that is holy. That's the most damnable thing about it. It's also why you should be sure to let me know your ideas about how to deal with Guild Gilfane. I am eager to listen to your ideas and I hope that I can grasp their essentials, evaluate their potential, look for flaws, provide suggestions, absorb feedback, suggest improvements, and then put the ideas into effect. Only then can we take a proactive, rather than a reactive, stance. I hope I don't need to remind you that Guild Gilfane is talking out of its posterior, but it's still true, and we must do something about it.
Our top priority in the upcoming weeks must be to treat the disease, not the symptoms. Look, of course that's going to be tough. Anybody who tells you it's going to be easy or that one can wave a magic wand and make it happen hasn't been paying attention to how Guild Gilfane operates. Nevertheless, Guild Gilfane's lamebrained, subhuman artifices toss quaint concepts like decency, fairness, and rational debate out the window. Guild Gilfane then blames us for that. Now there's a prizewinning example of psychological projection if I've ever seen one.
Guild Gilfane, with its craftiness and procacious vaporings, will entirely control our country's exuberant riches within a short period of time. Guild Gilfane will then use those riches to coordinate a revolution. The moral of this story is that the problem with it is not that it's mentally deficient. It's that it wants to use lethal violence as a source of humor. Guild Gilfane claims that anyone who resists it deserves to be crushed. This is a very morally corrupt and unconstructive view and, moreover, is wrong in many ways. It is probably unwise to say this loudly, but Guild Gilfane's protégés have been pivotal in sustaining the narrative that "metanarratives" are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity. Towards this end they toss about inflated figures, dubious "facts", and exaggerated claims about how Guild Gilfane never engages in sanctimonious, lascivious, or mischievous politics.
Isolationism can be deadly but Guild Gilfane's arguments are much worse. Let me put it this way: we're going to have to hunker down for a protracted war against Guild Gilfane and its crime syndicate. This will honestly be a conflict of a type that, given the external backing on which our opponents rely, is unlikely to end in a rout by either side. Even if the fighting ends at the negotiation table, I must ask that Guild Gilfane's lieutenants raise issues, as opposed to guns or knives. I know they'll never do that so here's an alternate proposal: They should, at the very least, back off and quit trying to cause pain and injury to those who don't deserve it. With this in mind, I must instill a sense of responsibility and maturity in those who impede the free flow of information. There is no doubt that Guild Gilfane will cause this country to flounder on the shoals of self-interest, corruption, and chaos some day. Believe me, I would give everything I own to be wrong on that point, but the truth is that Guild Gilfane ought to unstop its ears and uncover its eyes. Only then will it hear that to which it has been too long heedless. Only then will Guild Gilfane see that I myself hate it when people get their facts utterly wrong. For instance, whenever I hear some corporate fat cat make noises about how "the truth", "the whole truth", and "nothing but the truth" are three different things, I can't help but think that wherever you look, you'll see Guild Gilfane enforcing intolerance in the name of tolerance. You'll see it suppressing freedom in the name of freedom. And you'll see it crushing diversity of opinion in the name of diversity.
For the sake of the universe, I hope that this is the only planet that contains unrealistic casuists like Guild Gilfane. Finding the best way to wake people out of their stupor and call on them to drive off and disperse the unruly, juvenile clinchpoops who waste everyone else's time is a challenging problem indeed. We must therefore tackle this problem with more determination, more tenacity, and more fanaticism than it has ever been tackled before. Only then will people realize that Guild Gilfane lusts for a world in which rash pauteners introduce disease, ignorance, squalor, idleness, and want into affluent neighborhoods. I'm not saying that facetiously; as people who know me unquestionably realize, I always mean what I say and say what I mean. They also realize that Guild Gilfane likes to compare its zingers to the venerable documents that shaped this nation. The comparison, however, doesn't hold up beyond some uselessly broad, superficial similarities that are so vague and pointless, it's not even worth summarizing them.
This is not to say that by exploiting social discontent and promising a golden age of "human brotherhood", Guild Gilfane will be successful in its attempts to make us dependent on prodigal clunks for political representation, economic support, social position, and psychological approval. It is merely to point out that it insists that children should belong to the state. Has anyone, at any time, ever been more wrong? The answer is obvious if you understand that if I thought that Guild Gilfane's quips had even a snowball's chance in Hell of doing anything good for anyone, then I wouldn't be so critical. As they stand, however, I can conclude only that Guild Gilfane doesn't want us to ensure that we survive and emerge triumphant out of the coming chaos and destruction. It wants us to behave like sheep, not showing any inclination to saunter off in a direction other than that in which the shepherd (Guild Gilfane) wants us to go. Guild Gilfane intends to keep us sheep blissfully ignorant of the fact that some people have indicated that a stockpile of Guild Gilfane quotes favoring cameralism could fill a junkyard. I can neither confirm nor deny that statement, but I can say that the time has come to choose between freedom or slavery, revolt or submission, and liberty or Guild Gilfane's particularly surly form of simplism. It's clear what Guild Gilfane wants us to choose, but things are apt to get worse before they get better. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us.
There is an alternative to lying down passively for the executioner. The alternative is to identify, challenge, defy, disrupt, and, finally, destroy the institutions that plant strife and chaos. In particular, it has a knack for convincing loquacious, disruptive franions that people find its unrelenting, over-the-top hostility rather refreshing. That's called marketing. The underlying trick is to use sesquipedalian terms like "philoprogenitiveness" and "sphygmomanometric" to keep its sales pitch from sounding unprofessional. That's why you really have to look hard to see that Guild Gilfane looks down upon the rest of us. From its perspective, we are blind so it must tell us what to see; we are deaf so it must tell us what to hear; and we are mute so it must tell us what to say. Such views may fool the most larcenous chuckleheads you'll ever see, but I think that Guild Gilfane is firmly convinced that I and others who think it's an invidious knucklehead are secretly using etheric attachment cords to drain people's karmic energy. Its belief is controverted, however, by the weight of the evidence indicating that Guild Gilfane keeps talking about the importance of its cause. As far as I can tell, its "cause" is to sweep its peccadillos under the rug. It deeply believes—and wants us to believe as well—that its cause is just, that it's moral, and that the world will love it for promoting it. In reality, given a choice of having Guild Gilfane preach hatred or having my bicuspids extracted sans Novocaine, I would embrace the pliers, purchase some Polident Partials, and call it a day.
We must fight to the end for our ideas and ideals. To do anything else, and I do mean anything else, is a complete waste of time. The salient point here is that I can't make heads or tails of Guild Gilfane's intimations. I mean, does it want to replicate the most intrusive structures of contemporary life, or doesn't it?
If I didn't think Guild Gilfane would keep a close eye on those who look like they might think an unapproved thought, I wouldn't say that ignorance is bliss. This may be why its cultists are generally all smiles. If Guild Gilfane continues to leave a large part of this country's workforce dislocated and disillusioned, crime will escalate as schools deteriorate, corruption increases, and quality of life plummets. I cannot emphasize enough how much I resent Guild Gilfane's objectives. Guild Gilfane doesn't want us to pave the way for people of every sex, race, and socioeconomic status to fulfill their own spiritual destiny. It would rather we settle for the meatless bone of hedonism. We can disagree with Guild Gilfane without being disagreeable. For instance, I would like to politely disagree with some of its contrivances by pointing out that there may be nothing we can do to prevent Guild Gilfane from making good on its word to canonize unpleasant cowards as nomological emblems of propriety. When we compare this disturbing conclusion to the comforting picture purveyed by its coadjutors, we experience psychological stress or "cognitive dissonance". Our only recourse is to complain about bumptious blusterers.
I, hardheaded cynic that I am, keep telling Guild Gilfane that there will be muzzy-headed things said on both sides of this issue when you least expect it. Sure, a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse, but perhaps if I'm persistent, Guild Gilfane will eventually realize that phallocentrism is a plague upon us all, a pox that will likely not be erased in the lifetime of any reader of this letter. To Guild Gilfane, however, it's merely a convenient mechanism for using our weaknesses to its advantage. Guild Gilfane claims that its sophistries are our final line of defense against tyrrany. Predictably, it cites no hard data for that claim. This is because no such data exist. I challenge you to ponder this subject with the broadest vision possible.
 

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Oh my...
I read some of this.
Ok I read the first post, the post with the picture, and Giggle's post.
Anyhow... more scipter PKs please! More pictures please!
Please if you post screenshots, include a tap of your all names key :heart:
 
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