[UO Herald] Update on Housing Decay

[Frodo Baggins]

I have a question if someone has an answer... I would like a bigger house...
Once a house falls - how long do you have to wait before you can replace a house at the same location?
I was at an IDOC last year and tried to place in the exact location and I couldn't - is there a set time for that land to stay empty? (we had moved all the stuff that fell and a placement tool said it was a good location but wouldn't let us place)
I have read all I can read but don't see anything about replacing
Thanks

 

[RaistlinNowhere]

yes , theres a time anyone can plce there, can go for 15 min to 90 min i think

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Frodo there is a random amount of time after a house falls before anyone can place.

I don't know exactly how much time it is or the range but I'm sure you cannot place immediately after it falls.

 

[DenAlton036]

Frodo there is a random amount of time after a house falls before anyone can place.

I don't know exactly how much time it is or the range but I'm sure you cannot place immediately after it falls.

? use to be able to.. immediately. I remember the days on GL, waiting for a house to fall and several of us, with our house tools open, seeing who had the quickest "reflexes".

 

[Larisa]

? use to be able to.. immediately. I remember the days on GL, waiting for a house to fall and several of us, with our house tools open, seeing who had the quickest "reflexes".

That's why they changed it, so noone could plop a plot down, take all the items and drag them onto the empty plot to go through at their leisure and then drop the plot once they were done scavenging.

Gives everyone a fair chance....in theory

 

[DenAlton036]

wow, kewl, didnt know they changed it... i can just imagine the crowd thats gonna be camping in luna

 

[Cetric]

Sooo... looks like most houses are Fairly today. Any idea when idocs should start happening? is it Sunday or Monday, or Tuesday? Would suck if its a weekday.

 

[Bman]

Seems they are stuck at Fairly..

Yesterday I had about 130 at Fairly and one at "Greatly". This morning the Greatly was in IDOC stage and fell about 11:00 this morning. Yet none of the Fairly have gone to the Greatly stage yet.

If they were on the 24 hour cycle, they should have gone to Greatly by now, then hit the IDOC stage tomorrow sometime. With it being so unstable, its going to be hard to time when they are going to fall...

 

[Larisa]

Seems they are stuck at Fairly..

Yesterday I had about 130 at Fairly and one at "Greatly". This morning the Greatly was in IDOC stage and fell about 11:00 this morning. Yet none of the Fairly have gone to the Greatly stage yet.

If they were on the 24 hour cycle, they should have gone to Greatly by now, then hit the IDOC stage tomorrow sometime. With it being so unstable, its going to be hard to time when they are going to fall...

I Think this is a very good thing...I personally feel that IDOC's shouldn't be able to be timed..if you want free stuff you should at least have to work for it a little bit and let as many people as possible have a chance to get something.

Randomness rules!

 

[flappy6]

i wish peeps would listen im only tryin to help when i tell you that the idocs timers have changed,the ones that "they" turned on are under the old idoc rules,which is like 10 days ,i dunno why but they are,its just a heads up

 

[Nyses]

i wish peeps would listen im only tryin to help when i tell you that the idocs timers have changed,the ones that "they" turned on are under the old idoc rules,which is like 10 days ,i dunno why but they are,its just a heads up

Yup, it certainly does seem that each stage is 48 hours, and who knows about IDOC. If each is double the listed times on the Stratics decay page, that would put "The Great Fall" about Wednesday.

 

[twoburntfouryou]

The "Randomness rules" would not really be to fair as it would only benefit those that can or do play the game 24/7. Many people have jobs, sleep, clean house, take care of kids,ect.......I myself do not like to sit in front of my computer doing anything all day and night so when I do log into UO to play I do not want to spend the entire time running around hoping to find a random idoc how boring would that be.

 

[Larisa]

The "Randomness rules" would not really be to fair as it would only benefit those that can or do play the game 24/7. Many people have jobs, sleep, clean house, take care of kids,ect.......I myself do not like to sit in front of my computer doing anything all day and night so when I do log into UO to play I do not want to spend the entire time running around hoping to find a random idoc how boring would that be.

Seeing as I am the mother of 2 kids and do not have alot of time on my hands to..as you say..sit in front of my computer all day...it would be nice to have a random idoc all to myself because they did NOT all fall at the same time...

randomness rules!

 

[Bman]

I agree that randomness would be the best method.. with as many that are going to fall that would give everyone a chance to get in on the action.

 

[goldenpower]

i wish peeps would listen im only tryin to help when i tell you that the idocs timers have changed,the ones that "they" turned on are under the old idoc rules,which is like 10 days ,i dunno why but they are,its just a heads up

^^important^^

 

[startle]

i wish peeps would listen im only tryin to help when i tell you that the idocs timers have changed,the ones that "they" turned on are under the old idoc rules,which is like 10 days ,i dunno why but they are,its just a heads up

Flappy6.... I'm not disputing what you say, but I'm wondering HOW you know this to be the case? Enlighten me......

 

[Larisa]

I would also like to know..you make it sound like some type of conspiracy theory....

the ones that "they" turned on....sounds so ominous...who is this "They" you speak of, and why would only SOME IDOCS decay at a a seperate time...

Granted I only have 6 runes marked for houses on Origin, though there are a few more I'm not going anywhere NEAR Luna, only a few there are in IDOC status anyway...I'm more for trying to save pieces of my Shard's History and memories of the people that have come and gone.

And all the ones I have come across in my travels were still at *Fairly* as of 9 AM Central time.

*shrugs*

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

i wish peeps would listen im only tryin to help when i tell you that the idocs timers have changed,the ones that "they" turned on are under the old idoc rules,which is like 10 days ,i dunno why but they are,its just a heads up

Flappy6.... I'm not disputing what you say, but I'm wondering HOW you know this to be the case? Enlighten me......

I'm pretty sure he's wrong. Every IDOC I seen has been decaying at the 5 day rate. Everyone I checked this morning is already at Greatly Worn..

 

[Deaol]

I'm pretty sure he's wrong. Every IDOC I seen has been decaying at the 5 day rate. Everyone I checked this morning is already at Greatly Worn..

Agree'd , nothing has changed..

 

[Larisa]

Either SOMETHING has changed...OR...the revert Origin got reverted house decay too...is that possible?

Because every house I see on Origin right now is still Fairly....

 

[R Traveler]

Reverts and daily maintenance does affect house decays.

 

[Storm]

Reverts and daily maintenance does affect house decays.

This is very true! been this way as long as I can remember.

 

[Larisa]

I never paid that much attention to decay rates because I always had my accounts paid for and never had to worry about it.

So I guess Origin is a day behind...interesting..thanks!

 

[Frodo Baggins]

All of Pacific homes are greatly as of this morning (not sure when they switched) but two did go backwards one step (not sure how that works) and one went quickly yesterday from fairly to greatly to IDOC and then gone - all within 24 hours. Not sure what timer that one was on...
Looks like I will miss all the fun as I will be at work - good luck to everyone!

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

I'm pretty sure he's wrong. Every IDOC I seen has been decaying at the 5 day rate. Everyone I checked this morning is already at Greatly Worn..

Funny, because the ones I have been watching were:

Slightly for 48 hours
Somewhat for 48 hours
Fairly for 36 hours
Greatly for ? at least 24 hours minimum
Then the IDOC stage for 7-8 depending on who or what you listen too.

That's 6 1/2 to 7 days unless my math is wrong.....

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

They activated house decay on Tuesday. It is now Sunday, 5 days, 120 hours or so later.

Flappy6 says in more than one post they changed it to 10 days. Even your math is only 6.5 to 7 days.

My post was made this morning, less than a full 5 days since reactivated. Every house I'm watching, about 20, was at Greatly Worn.

You really have to dispute and argue with every post I make?

 

[dizzylish]

So do we take monday, tuesday or both days off from work lol. Any guesses when they drop. Should have done a money pool.

 

[Larisa]

They activated house decay on Tuesday. It is now Sunday, 5 days, 120 hours or so later.

Flappy6 says in more than one post they changed it to 10 days. Even your math is only 6.5 to 7 days.

My post was made this morning, less than a full 5 days since reactivated. Every house I'm watching, about 20, was at Greatly Worn.

You really have to dispute and argue with every post I make?

He's not trying to dispute or argue...calm down!

Not EVERY house is decaying at the same rate...this has been stated by numerous people.

If the decay was the same for ALL houses, on ALL facets, on ALL shards, they should ALL be in the same state of decay...HOWEVER there are MANY variables that enter into the equation...server down times, vendors, etc.

Like I stated in a previous post, I have about....8 houses that I am watching. TWO of them are still at fairly...the rest are at greatly.

They are not all on the same timer...that is very clear..so there really is no 100% they all will fall at this time on this day...noone can say that because it's simply not that predictable.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Don't tell me to calm down! You don't know what you're talking about.

I don't need a lesson in house decay.

Houses on Origin are obviously off the same timer as the rest as was pointed out earlier, likely due to the revert.

Are any of these variables adding up to 10 days. No.

 

[THP]

just .......LOL.......

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

You really have to dispute and argue with every post I make?

Ummmm, no. I think there have been a few posts you and I agree on. I just talk about {or dispute} things I don't agree with or things I find wrong, or things I don't know about and just want to ask a question is all. Nothing personal from my side against you in all honesty. If I did have something against you personally I would address it in a decent way, not just stalk you on here. Ain't my style man.

 

[Larisa]

Don't tell me to calm down! You don't know what you're talking about.

I don't need a lesson in house decay.

Houses on Origin are obviously off the same timer as the rest as was pointed out earlier, likely due to the revert.

Are any of these variables adding up to 10 days. No.

I never said anything about 10 days...I'm saying that not all of the houses are going to fall at the same time....IF they all got turned on at the exact same time...and some are still fairly, and some are greatly....does that not tell you that they will not all fall at the same time?

Okay so housing decay was re-activated on Tuesday. Today is Sunday...that's 5 days.

If we look at the *old* housing Decay cycles...

Like New-5 minutes
Slightly Worn-Approx. 24 hours
Somewhat Worn-Approx. 24 hours
Fairly Worn-Approx. 24 hours
Greatly Worn-Approx. 24 hours
In Danger of Collapsing-Approx. 7 hours

SO technically..going by the above rules...from Tuesday at..lets say they turned it on at 9 AM their time...so from 9 AM Tuesday to 9 AM Wednesday-Slightly...from 9 AM Wednesday to 9 AM Thursday-Somewhat...from 9 AM Thursday to 9 AM Friday-Fairly...from 9 AM Friday to 9 AM Saturday-Greatly....from 9 AM Saturday to 9 AM Sunday (Today) they would have hit In Danger of Collapsing....so the 5 day theory is already thrown out the window because according to the above, every house should have gone into IDOC status sometime today.

Now...again from what I've said...I have at least 3 houses marked that are still fairly....which they should have turned on Thursday....that's 3 days behind...Origin did NOT get a 3 day revert.

Also...the other 7 or so houses that I have marked are greatly...

Now I'm not saying that it's 10 days 5 days 12 days 434 days lol...I'm saying that not every house will fall at the same time, and they are NOT all on a 5 day...7 day..or 10 day cycle.....maybe 90% of them will fall all at the same time but not all.

I don't even know why I'm discussing this to be honest....I think I just needed a break from putting out forest fires in Yew

 

[Jactiggy]

I have been watching 50 some IDOC's now since the day they were switched on last week, I have been recalling in and checking every hour or two (except whilst sleeping) and these are what I've found, if it helps at all.

24 Hours were spent at Slightly Worn
36 Hours at Somewhat Worn
33-35 Hours at Fairly Worn (this one varied in decaying time between houses)
At the moment it's looking like the Greatly Worn stage is also heading for 36 hours but I'll be able to tell more in the next 6 hours (still a possibility it *Could* be a 24 hour on the greatly stage.)

All 50 some houses seem to be decaying at the same rate give or take an hour, and I would predict that we should start seeing the first houses fall in around 25 hours time.

My predictions have been known to be iffy at times, but judging by how it's been going so far, 25 hours seems about right, save for any unpredictable patterns that may rear their ugly head in the coming 24 hours.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Well why you feel the need to teach me about house decay I don't know.

.does that not tell you that they will not all fall at the same time?

Where did I ever say that all houses will fall at the same time? See what I mean?

I said the houses "I'm watching" were all at the same rate to point out that flappy6's statement was way off. I never said nor implied that every house on every shard was falling at the same rate or time.

Like I said I don't need a lesson in house decay.

BTW, I'm standing at the IDOC in Luna on Origin. It's already "IDOC."

 

[Larisa]

Well why you feel the need to teach me about house decay I don't know.



Where did I ever say that all houses will fall at the same time? See what I mean?

I said the houses "I'm watching" were all at the same rate to point out that flappy6's statement was way off. I never said nor implied that every house on every shard was falling at the same rate or time.

Like I said I don't need a lesson in house decay.

BTW, I'm standing at the IDOC in Luna on Origin. It's already "IDOC."

Oh you have at that one..I'm not goin anywhere NEAR luna....well maybe ill come by there to say hi

And im not tryin to teach you anything....like I said I think I just need a break from puttin out them fires! Though there haven't been many in Yew...thankfully.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

I never said anything about 10 days...

Then maybe you should read the entire thread and you'd understand that my original post on this was to counter the posts by flappy6 saying they changed the house decay to 10 days.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Oh you have at that one..I'm not goin anywhere NEAR luna....well maybe ill come by there to say hi

And im not tryin to teach you anything....like I said I think I just need a break from puttin out them fires! Though there haven't been many in Yew...thankfully.

I was just exploring. I don't want a house in Luna or on Origin. I'm just watching. Maybe try to grab the music box.

 

[Larisa]

I think I want them dead fish....47 dead fish..that's a whole lotta dead fish!

Funny though I remember this house being here ever since Origin came up almost...it's been here a very long time.

Sad to it go...

 

[Ron Silverbeard]

I was just exploring. I don't want a house in Luna or on Origin. I'm just watching. Maybe try to grab the music box.

If thats the one with all the peeps inside waiting for it to colapse, right at Luna city, in the South, called "Marble Garden Marketplace", i wonder if the VENDORS there still in, with stuff on them, will keep the house from collapsing.

If i am not totaly wrong, this prevents the house from going down in some cases...

 

[old gypsy]

If thats the one with all the peeps inside waiting for it to colapse, right at Luna city, in the South, called "Marble Garden Marketplace", i wonder if the VENDORS there still in, with stuff on them, will keep the house from collapsing.

If i am not totaly wrong, this prevents the house from going down in some cases...

Normally, that should delay the fall. However, if my memory is correct, in the last "Great Collapse" years ago, vendors left their goods on the steps... I wonder if it will work that way this time?

 

[Ron Silverbeard]

it went down aprox. 10 mins ago
so the vendors didnt matter...

 

[old gypsy]

Wow!

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

If the vendors are owned by the house owner it doesn't matter.

Only vendor rental contracts prevent it from falling immediately.

If memory serves me it then goes " Pending Demolishion " and waits until when all the vendors have run out of gold to pay their fees.

 

[jack flash uk]

If the vendors are owned by the house owner it doesn't matter.

Only vendor rental contracts prevent it from falling immediately.

If memory serves me it then goes " Pending Demolishion " and waits until when all the vendors have run out of gold to pay their fees.

Indeed

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

If memory serves me it then goes " Pending Demolishion " and waits until when all the vendors have run out of gold to pay their fees.

That phase/ownership had always confused me honestly. I know there was a Pending Demolition and an Owned By OSI. Pending Demolition I had always heard/thought were the ones that people were appealing a ban or something of that nature, And the Owned By Osi ones were the ones that were for vendors. Anyone know what the difference in the two are?

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Actually you have it reversed.

"Owned by OSI" was forever for banned accounts but I think now many other buildings have ended up with it.

"Pending Demolishion", I'm pretty sure was created specifically for the vendor rental situation.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

If memory serves me it then goes " Pending Demolishion " and waits until when all the vendors have run out of gold to pay their fees.

Ok, I was slightly off on this. It's not when the vendor runs out of gold, it's when the Vendor Rental contract expires OR if the owner collects their goods and gold.

From the UOHerald:

"Demolition Pending" Houses

If your house is scheduled to decay but still has contract-vendors with unexpired contracts, the house will list as "Demolition Pending" and not fully decay until 9 days after those contracts expire. Houses with this status cannot be reclaimed, even by reactivating their accounts. These houses remain standing only to allow the contract-vendor owners to reclaim their vended inventory. (You can find more information on Contract Vendors here.)

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

Aight, thx. I got to the point where when I would see them I would not even bother marking a rune for it. Got tired of wasting time just to watch them begin the decay cycle time after time.

 

[twoburntfouryou]

We have re-activated Housing Decay on Tuesday. If your account has been inactive for more than 90 days, you have 2 days left before your house is gone. After your have reactivated your account, it can take up to 24 hours for your house to be refreshed and display the correct status.

If you have reactivated your account and your house status hasn't updated after these 24 hour, please contact us.





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This was posted on 1/20/2012.... 3 days ago and the houses are still standing

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

This was posted on 1/20/2012.... 3 days ago and the houses are still standing

So what exactly is your question? House decay is on a timer but it's not an exact timer.

It takes minimum 5 days to around a maximum of 7 days for a house to fall.