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Jirel of Joiry

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That pretty much sums up my feelings about UO as of late.


Really, no joke.


Okay, let me explain why, and Mods please refrain from whipping out your "Might Mace of Troll Bashing"...PLEASE.


First the account migration from TATARUS, I mean seriously who does an account migration WITHOUT back ups in place? I did a job back in 2007 where I over saw the migration and implementation of the company's accounting books from Microsoft Money Plus to Microsoft Accounting Professional. I am sure to many of you that sounds very easy, but it is not.

Before we unleashed the SQL based M.A.P. on the company it was done on one computer and the Money Plus books were maintained until it was clear that all the kinks were beat out of M. A. P.


Why on earth didn't EA handle the account sever migration in similar fashion? Instead they unleashed the migration without testing! From all I have read not just here in the UO forums but in DAOC and Warhammer forums too it was like a massive DOS attack on the playerbase.

Fast forward to December...Someone at EA decides it would be a brillant idea to migrate the UOCodestore to Origin Store. One might think they might have learned from recent events, alas they did not!

I have been told the definition of insanity is to repeatedly run into a brick wall and expect different results each time. Well I am certainly questioning the sanity of not only whoever is in charge of the Codestore migrating but Mr. Salaski's for allowing it to proceed WITHOUT A BACKUP in place.

Seriously Mr. Salaski, why did you sign off on this without a backup?

Now people are buying codes that do not work and EA's Award Winning customer support is about as helpful as letting the air out of your car tires in the name better gas mileage!

If they wanted us all to leave then why not close the servers and be done about it? Why waste the time, energy and man power to torture us with these ridiculous "migrations"?

IMHO, EA has opened themselves wide up to a class action lawsuit, and deservedly so. First with the account migration mess, and now with the codestore selling bad codes. I have only heard one person say they got a refund. Last time I checked to charge someone's creditcard for goods or services then not to give it to them is illegal..by American law anyways.


I fear this is the beginning of the end for UO.


Well UO, it was a good ride cowboy, I'm just sorry it's had to end so badly.

-Jirel
 

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That pretty much sums up my feelings about UO as of late.


Really, no joke.


Okay, let me explain why, and Mods please refrain from whipping out your "Might Mace of Troll Bashing"...PLEASE.


First the account migration from TATARUS, I mean seriously who does an account migration WITHOUT back ups in place? I did a job back in 2007 where I over saw the migration and implementation of the company's accounting books from Microsoft Money Plus to Microsoft Accounting Professional. I am sure to many of you that sounds very easy, but it is not.

Before we unleashed the SQL based M.A.P. on the company it was done on one computer and the Money Plus books were maintained until it was clear that all the kinks were beat out of M. A. P.


Why on earth didn't EA handle the account sever migration in similar fashion? Instead they unleashed the migration without testing! From all I have read not just here in the UO forums but in DAOC and Warhammer forums too it was like a massive DOS attack on the playerbase.

Fast forward to December...Someone at EA decides it would be a brillant idea to migrate the UOCodestore to Origin Store. One might think they might have learned from recent events, alas they did not!

I have been told the definition of insanity is to repeatedly run into a brick wall and expect different results each time. Well I am certainly questioning the sanity of not only whoever is in charge of the Codestore migrating but Mr. Salaski's for allowing it to proceed WITHOUT A BACKUP in place.

Seriously Mr. Salaski, why did you sign off on this without a backup?

Now people are buying codes that do not work and EA's Award Winning customer support is about as helpful as letting the air out of your car tires in the name better gas mileage!

If they wanted us all to leave then why not close the servers and be done about it? Why waste the time, energy and man power to torture us with these ridiculous "migrations"?

IMHO, EA has opened themselves wide up to a class action lawsuit, and deservedly so. First with the account migration mess, and now with the codestore selling bad codes. I have only heard one person say they got a refund. Last time I checked to charge someone's creditcard for goods or services then not to give it to them is illegal..by American law anyways.


I fear this is the beginning of the end for UO.


Well UO, it was a good ride cowboy, I'm just sorry it's had to end so badly.

-Jirel
when you and popps decide your family shouldnt post more players wont be scared off from game

you two more negative than 99 other players combined
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I don't mess with uo codes, but I do feel for the people who are getting jived on code purchases from the store. I'd be mad as hell if I spent 10-20 bucks on something I really wanted, and put the code in to get a digital slap in the face.

Poo Ea... Poo on you! (but I still love UO!)
 

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Yawn.

Back on the doom-saying wagon again aye Jirel? So you quitting again over a few people on stratics complaining?
 
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if you pay from them and they screw it up, they WILL fix it in time. I would like to see less problems, and I hope any new errr subscrition based mmo is not subjected to this at launch.
 

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Lawsuit seems a little hyperbolic, but I'll admit that I did hope to see public communication increase. I share your disappointment on this point. Nevertheless, UO has survived many years of apocalyptic predictions and I suspect that it will survive this one, as well.

I believe we still have the support to make the game work. Here's to hoping for the best. :shots:
 

Jirel of Joiry

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Yawn.

Back on the doom-saying wagon again aye Jirel? So you quitting again over a few people on stratics complaining?
Really you should get out more....I haven't logged in game enough in the last 4 months to warrant my monthly subs.

In a sense I already moved out, just need to turn off the utilities and turn the keys back to the Apt. Manager.
 

Jirel of Joiry

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I don't mess with uo codes, but I do feel for the people who are getting jived on code purchases from the store. I'd be mad as hell if I spent 10-20 bucks on something I really wanted, and put the code in to get a digital slap in the face.

Poo Ea... Poo on you! (but I still love UO!)
Its more than a Digital slap in the face. Its fraud, but they'll get away with as long as no one speaks up. :(

It's really, really sad.
 

Jirel of Joiry

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if you pay from them and they screw it up, they WILL fix it in time. I would like to see less problems, and I hope any new errr subscrition based mmo is not subjected to this at launch.
LMAO It'd be 100% Karma if SWTOR is screwed up at launch. We can only hope they'll fix it, but with EA's track record it's a long shot. Kinda like me winning the Powerball Jackpot, it could happen, but I'm not gonna hold my breath. ;)
 

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i never had a problem with the account migration.

i dont buy anything from the codes store except when they come out with new stuff, so whatever problems they had there for a day or 2 didnt effect me.

i think 99% of the players are in the same boat as i am, we look at your disgust and have no idea what your complaining about.

everything seems to be running just fine and i dont see the end of the game jumping us next week.
 

Jirel of Joiry

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Lawsuit seems a little hyperbolic, but I'll admit that I did hope to see public communication increase. I share your disappointment on this point. Nevertheless, UO has survived many years of apocalyptic predictions and I suspect that it will survive this one, as well.

I believe we still have the support to make the game work. Here's to hoping for the best. :shots:
You're one those the glass-is-half-full guys. That's cool. One can hope it'll get better, but my hope is waning after 10 yrs of empty promises, lies, nerfs, punishment of the innocent, blatantness of the guilty and total screw jobs.

Well, set me up a Cuevo 1800 Coleccion, neat, double please. May as well make the wait more pleasurable. :D
 

Jirel of Joiry

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i never had a problem with the account migration.

i dont buy anything from the codes store except when they come out with new stuff, so whatever problems they had there for a day or 2 didnt effect me.

i think 99% of the players are in the same boat as i am, we look at your disgust and have no idea what your complaining about.

everything seems to be running just fine and i dont see the end of the game jumping us next week.
I would hope more of the playerbase would have empathy for the plight of their fellow players. I fear they are more like you are, self involved. That is: "if it isn't affecting me then it isn't a problem".

I had been saving up to upgrade my accounts to the Baazar pack.

As luck would have it the day I decide to finally buy my upgrades is the day they migrate the codestore. The codestore doesn't have the Baazar pack and now with the bad codes I'd be petrified to buy it.

I'm so very glad that you finacially secure enough to buy everything as soon as it comes out. I like many people have to buget and save. It must be really awesome to be you. :)
 

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Really you should get out more....I haven't logged in game enough in the last 4 months to warrant my monthly subs.

In a sense I already moved out, just need to turn off the utilities and turn the keys back to the Apt. Manager.
I hardly ever post on here anymore and you tell me I should get out more...because you haven't logged in enough in the past four months? You're not making any sense. None of that goes together.
 
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Account migration sealed it for me ... I just closed the accounts and have not looked back. Diablo 3 is in beta and Blizzard seems to be doing things really right with it. <shrug>

For those who wish to stick it out with EA, be advised Jirel hasn't said anything here about the crappy migration that *I* didn't many times over. However y'all wanna jump on her like flies on carrion ... wrong, wrong, wrong.
 

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Account migration sealed it for me ... I just closed the accounts and have not looked back. Diablo 3 is in beta and Blizzard seems to be doing things really right with it. <shrug>

For those who wish to stick it out with EA, be advised Jirel hasn't said anything here about the crappy migration that *I* didn't many times over. However y'all wanna jump on her like flies on carrion ... wrong, wrong, wrong.
The problem is Jirel's attitude.
 

Jirel of Joiry

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Account migration sealed it for me ... I just closed the accounts and have not looked back. Diablo 3 is in beta and Blizzard seems to be doing things really right with it. <shrug>

For those who wish to stick it out with EA, be advised Jirel hasn't said anything here about the crappy migration that *I* didn't many times over. However y'all wanna jump on her like flies on carrion ... wrong, wrong, wrong.
The problem is Jirel's attitude.
No Aran, you're just a garden variety jerk and troll. Why TPTB running stratics haven't seen fit to bash you from the board is completely beyond me.

So how much are you paying them off to let you troll all the Stratics forums?

Please just crawl back in your Troll hole and leave me alone.

Thank you

Jirel
 

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