What do you mean by same people fighting? You mean same people on the shard? Surely you aren't suggesting that only the fel PvPers will be using it and not anyone else. It's a great system for those who want to try PvP but don't want to go to fel. It's a great way for the non-fel population to have their own little sparing sessions, duels, and even events.
Word! Agrees totally with Viper.
What I was saying that it wont just be the fel PvPers using it. There will likely be a wide use by all the non-fel players who want to PvP but just don't want to go to fel. So chances are you will also be seeing a lot of different people. Of course it's way too soon to say anything. Have to wait to see how it goes when released.
I don't think arena engagements were what needed to be implemented. UO had it's own makeshift arenas at one point, organized by the players. That is when UO was at its peak. The fact that not enough people are interested enough to subscribe to have that level of community interaction anymore speaks volumes for itself. The arena concept is sadly a concept stolen from WoW, which is a different game altogether, so the whole idea of implementing it into UO is so terrible. This is in my mind a waste of an implementation, at this stage of UO's seemingly endless lifespan.
Who the **** cares if WoW has an arena model? WoW is a widely popular online game so of course we are going to run into ideas that they have already done. Just because they have it doesn't mean we need to stay away from that idea. It's a great idea because it gives a reliable set of rules so you don't run into a duel where someone decides to call in a group of friends to turn a 1v1 duel into 5v1. Yeah players can organize it but what if you feel like a duel with rules set in stone when there isn't a big organized event? Face the facts, some people just don't want to enter fel and there are not a many events at all for organized PvP duels. Solution: the arena. So if two or more people want to go at it when they don't want to go to fel and no events going on.
So you're basically describing one of the biggest problems in UO. People are brainwashed with the fact that if they die, they lose social status. Or if they goto Felucca, they're going to die. Not so much the truth anymore. The game is so depleted in population, unless you're basically idle at Yew gate or Despise you're not going to die in Felucca. You can run virtually any T2A spawn no problems. Let me also say, social status in UO is a non-factor. So people, die away.
No. The sense that UO should have a sensible means to allow dueling between players goes back to before WoW launched. It would have been the right thing to do way back then and remains the right thing now. Only catch is that it's being implemented 100,000,000 years later than would have been best, and WoW (which has had a knack for doing things right earlier in its lifetime), put it into their game long ago.
All of this is the perfect reason of why arenas are a great idea. Plus all the other ideas toss around about why they are a great idea. 
Now this one is funny. UOR saved UO because people were leaving because of all the kiddie BS, PKers and the gank squads. UO saw its largest rise in population after UOR not before. And when was the last time you killed Masena? You can't kill a char created by a DEV unless they let you.
Quite true but I've realized something. Arguments to the contrary, about how bad Tram was and how much it cost them, etc., are not about reality, they are about faith.
At the time the DEVs had a choice, figure a way to make PvP concensual or make Tram. Tram was prob easier to do. Maybe not the best but prob the quickest and easyest way.
gargoyle's are an amazing race to play with many benefits that are completely better on a PVM or PVP standpoint. at this point, being a human race is a disadvantage and is almost purely decided for aesthetics.
1) Do you even still regularly play Uo? Everything you pointed out was ancient history. Of course things have changed since then. A child could realize this. No need to keep pointing out your personal glory days. We all have our own memories of different times.
If you mean by the movements of gargoyles needing to be a little be easier to see then yes i understand what you're saying. But everything else is fine, maybe add some more unique artifacts, and tone down the base damage of soul glaives and everything should be hunky dory.
You sound like a mediocre player. I am glad this game appeals to you. That's great. Unfortunately the game has deteriorated to its state because the developers have listened to the mediocre playerbase far too long.
There is no type of speed hack that can make someone cast spells faster. fc/fcr are set in stone. Those that speed hack you notice take turns faster, and that can be very annoying.
Lol, if they can make the arena cheat free then that means they can make the whole game cheat free. So that isn't going to happen. At least not anytime soon
Calling yourself "top tier" and rating another person that you have never seen play are sure signs of outraged immaturity. Which ofc fits perfectly in this case. This makes all of your posts in this current thread invalid.
I don't need to see you play to label you for what you are. You're saying arenas were something asked for since day one of UO, which isn't true. You've yet to point out one viable reason why it is a necessary feature when there is an entire facet where people that are interested in duels can stage duels. So you're basically saying now that there is a system in place people are going to want to duel random players that are going to destroy them? This is about adding a system, with rulesets, that already existed since day one without rulesets- because of people like you that don't understand the concept of taking risks in a video game.
Make sure you put that on your resume and use it for your pickup line. I'm sure you will get major tail and CEO jobs with your vast l337ness.
I already stated, clearly, that social status is void in UO.
I'm old school, I duel old school. Wrong roof, bring your friends to gank me if they want. Nobody needs an arena here. Come to my spawn any time, bring your stealth archers, I don't care.
Since we are all making assumptions here I will make one that I am willing to bet is balls-on accurate:I don't need to see you play to label you for what you are. You're saying arenas were something asked for since day one of UO, which isn't true. You've yet to point out one viable reason why it is a necessary feature when there is an entire facet where people that are interested in duels can stage duels. So you're basically saying now that there is a system in place people are going to want to duel random players that are going to destroy them? This is about adding a system, with rulesets, that already existed since day one without rulesets- because of people like you that don't understand the concept of taking risks in a video game.
The game lacks enough balance that implementing arena duels is going to be a horrid representation of PvP. The only balanced dueling in the game was pure mage / non-itemized melee and this is no longer honored at all post-Age of Shadows. People don't run champion spawns because they are cowards and cannot defend. If you cannot defend a spawn how are you going to defend yourself solo in an arena?
You pretty much don't know what you're talking about. The system is designed for people that want an excuse to take risks without having to fear stepping out of their comfort boundaries.
Enough said. I still stand behind the fact that you're a horrid player, and I would make an example out of you in an arena on my worst day possible.
lol@ the use of the word "son"
. But it was abandoned because of the number of times the fun was ruined by raiders.
So... everyone? Except a tiny handful of leeter-than-thou types sitting around their dead facet that emptied out the second another one opened, pretending the other 99% of the game gives a crap what they think about anything?
You do realize fel is still going to be open for pvp right? Arenas aren't there to replace pvp but for fair duels usually agreed upon beforehand (or some people waiting outside the afena waiting for anyone to duel who wants to). Don't like them then don't use them. They will be useful for events, tournaments, etc. You also realize that you get to choose who you want to fight right? If you know someone is a gamer or a ninjitsu fighter then don't agree to duel them, simple as that.
In WoW, they nerf specific classes, due to making the armor/weapons overpowered. Then they reset your talent trees, every expansion they have, they make the Armor & Weapons you get by spending weeks of raiding to get, completely useless in the first few quests & increase the level cap by another 5-10 levels. thus making nearly ALL the time spent previous to the expansion A complete Waste of Time. sure the raids might prove to be fun... Once.