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Bracelets Of Binding

Elden of Baja

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I've noticed an Increase in the use of Bracelets of Binding in Pvp For Players to Zip out of Danger to some character hidden at a Distant Location. Please make them like pet summoning balls with a casting time that can be interrupted.
 

iamSnippa

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If people are using them to escape from combat all that needs to be done is to make it so that they cannot be used during combat.
 

Elden of Baja

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Not Good enough, The people are coming out into active pvp situations waiting to be attacked so they can use guard zone if things get dicey, then if things get really dicey they just disappear.
 

Viper09

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Not Good enough, The people are coming out into active pvp situations waiting to be attacked so they can use guard zone if things get dicey, then if things get really dicey they just disappear.
...then don't attack them. If they are waiting to be attacked there are already plenty of other ways to escape aside from those bracelets and thus it's fine as it is. Currently, if they don't attack others first then they can already run into a house, recall, moongate, etc to escape. So why complain only about bracelets of binding when players have been escaping in all the other fashions for a long time?
 

Elden of Baja

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That's Exactly why, they already have recall/house/moongate/Guard zone, But all of those methods require them to either cast, or move to the location. The bracelets just make it silly. And its not just out at yew gate either, people are using them in dungeons.
 

G.v.P

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BoBs don't work in T2A or dungeons though, right? So it's another Yew Gate issue or what?
 

iamSnippa

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maybe you should try a build that lets you kill them faster than they can activate it...
 

icm420

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Has anyone seen the Sacred Journey out of despise? That one needs to be fixed.
 

Viper09

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That's Exactly why, they already have recall/house/moongate/Guard zone, But all of those methods require them to either cast, or move to the location. The bracelets just make it silly. And its not just out at yew gate either, people are using them in dungeons.
Right right. Because casting recall spells, walking into a moongate or a house take a long ass time and make it so much easier to kill them. /sarcasm

This is another yew gate complaint, I just know it.
 

Poo

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

now that explains what happened last night.

i was hot on some fella on ATL and had him redlined, i was jogging along beside him and had the moving shot toggled and *POOF* he was gone.

i thought maybe he had popped one of those faction runes, but he wasnt in factions.

so that makes a lot more sense.

i remember years ago i just to put a BOB on my thief, then one on my dismount tamer.
id stealth up to someone standing looking bored, id drop a small chest in front and on each side if him, then hit the BOB on my tamer:
*dismount shot*
*all kill*
walk away with the loot

that was killer.
mean and dirty, but fun like you have no idea!
 

Elden of Baja

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That's Exactly why, they already have recall/house/moongate/Guard zone, But all of those methods require them to either cast, or move to the location. The bracelets just make it silly. And its not just out at yew gate either, people are using them in dungeons.
Right right. Because casting recall spells, walking into a moongate or a house take a long ass time and make it so much easier to kill them. /sarcasm

This is another yew gate complaint, I just know it.
Relative to Time required to recall, Recall without protection can be fizzled, Running a screen or 5 to get to a guard zone/Into a house. It is soo much easier to kill them then when they hit their bracelet and *Poof*.
 

chad

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There's an exploit allowing people to disappear to some unknown location regardless of flagging rules. It's not a bracelet of binding.
 

Elden of Baja

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Oooo.... Now chad has me curious as to what is actually going on. I just figured it was bracelets of binding.
 

Ludes

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There's an exploit allowing people to disappear to some unknown location regardless of flagging rules. It's not a bracelet of binding.
Have to agree with Chad here.. I have BoB with Lady Kyra and we've seen to many quick "poofs" for me to believe its BoB's .. its just to quick..
 

startle

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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

now that explains what happened last night.

i was hot on some fella on ATL and had him redlined, i was jogging along beside him and had the moving shot toggled and *POOF* he was gone.

i thought maybe he had popped one of those faction runes, but he wasnt in factions.

so that makes a lot more sense.

i remember years ago i just to put a BOB on my thief, then one on my dismount tamer.
id stealth up to someone standing looking bored, id drop a small chest in front and on each side if him, then hit the BOB on my tamer:
*dismount shot*
*all kill*
walk away with the loot

that was killer.
mean and dirty, but fun like you have no idea!
Hey Poo... aren't you supposed to be out barding something? :)
 

G.v.P

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BoBs don't work in T2A or dungeons though, right? So it's another Yew Gate issue or what?
unless they were changed in the last 6 years, they work everywhere if i remember right.
Test #1
Citadel (Peerless, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Test #2
Ilsh Honor Shrine (Ilsh, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Test #3
Deceit (Fel, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Conclusion: BoB's cannot be used if you can't gate.
 

G.v.P

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Interesting note though, you can actually imbue BoBs...hm...lol wish I thought about that awhile ago ;D
 

Poo

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Test #1
Citadel (Peerless, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Test #2
Ilsh Honor Shrine (Ilsh, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Test #3
Deceit (Fel, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Conclusion: BoB's cannot be used if you can't gate.
cant use them in Faction Bases either.
thats thanks too me.
ya, ill take the bullet for that one.
*walk to the front of the class and gets the strap*
 

Poo

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Hey Poo... aren't you supposed to be out barding something? :)
*takes out little black book titled 'to kill'*
*licks pencil*
*writes the name startle in the book*
*puts the book back in his pocket*
 
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Shinobi

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Test #1
Citadel (Peerless, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Test #2
Ilsh Honor Shrine (Ilsh, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Test #3
Deceit (Fel, no Gate location)
"The bracelet emits a red glow. The bracelet's twin is not available for transport."

Conclusion: BoB's cannot be used if you can't gate.
Sounds like your other player with the brace of binding may have been indoors.

Regardless, you can't use them to or from dungeons, can't use them while you're criminal, and you can't use them if the "twin" is in a house, regardless of access.
 

G.v.P

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Sounds like your other player with the brace of binding may have been indoors.

Regardless, you can't use them to or from dungeons, can't use them while you're criminal, and you can't use them if the "twin" is in a house, regardless of access.
"Gate" might have been misleading, the BoBs follow recall rules. I play so many EM events Gate gets stuck in my head. I was aware of the house rule prior, just wanted to check the rule I thought I knew (the lack of use in Fel T2A, dungeons, etc.), to make sure what I was suggesting here was correct. I also checked for verification outside each area (Citadel crate, Tram moongate, Fel Deceit entrance) prior to entry. I did not bust out the black and white composite notebook, but I'm usually fairly thorough when I test something ;D.
 

G.v.P

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Hey Poo... aren't you supposed to be out barding something? :)
*takes out little black book titled 'to kill'*
*licks pencil*
*writes the name startle in the book*
*puts the book back in his pocket*
I like where the direction of this thread is going ;) jk lol

Be funny if the bug in question is allowed via create food some how
 

Klapauc

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I didnt test it, but maybe those people disappearing used a dream serpent charm?
 

Alvinho

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do invisibility items, which i seen a glut of recently somehow, have any casting animations or are they still instant?
 
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unified

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do invisibility items, which i seen a glut of recently somehow, have any casting animations or are they still instant?
... and, first prize goes to you! :party:

I was wondering when someone would figure ivis items into this. They are still instant. I don't know why BoBs were brought up in the first place because there is a delay on them when used while the bracelet "locate" its twin.
 

Maximus Neximus

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... and, first prize goes to you! :party:

I was wondering when someone would figure ivis items into this. They are still instant. I don't know why BoBs were brought up in the first place because there is a delay on them when used while the bracelet "locate" its twin.
In my experience with the person disappearing, I immediately dropped a conflag pot on the spot and they weren't there. And no, the character wasn't a stealther. He was an archer tamer that somehow teleported someplace else. His pet stayed behind for a few seconds, until he, I assume, logged out to save it.
 
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unified

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It may be some time before we know exactly what it is, but it is definitely not Bracelets of Binding. It could be any one or a combination of things, including camping. Whatever it is needs to be fixed, but since it is not Bracelets of Binding, this thread no longer serves its original purpose.
 

G.v.P

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It may be some time before we know exactly what it is, but it is definitely not Bracelets of Binding. It could be any one or a combination of things, including camping. Whatever it is needs to be fixed, but since it is not Bracelets of Binding, this thread no longer serves its original purpose.
Well...it can't be camping if the pet wanders for awhile, like in the post before yours, then poofs. Pet would insta disappear i'd think if camping was successful?
 

G.v.P

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I didnt test it, but maybe those people disappearing used a dream serpent charm?
Had to look this one up...

Dream Serpent Charm is one of the quest items of the quest Catch Me If You Can!. It comes with 86,400 seconds lifespan and is destroyed when dropped.
Dream Serpent Charm - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia

Well, I suppose this item can teleport you somewhere? Is that what you're saying?

After accepting the quest, a Dream serpent charm.png Dream Serpent Charm will be placed in your backpack with a 86400 seconds (24 hours) timer. Clicking on the charm will teleport you to a remote location. You need to hit Bexil six times in about 30 seconds while it keeps teleporting itself around the area.
http://www.uoguide.com/Catch_Me_If_You_Can!#Catch_Me_If_You_Can.21


Hmmm...
 

Elden of Baja

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Thats probably it. And it is in no way shape or form an invis item.

If you have the player tracked you lose them, if a revenant is on them, it goes poof. If they had followers the followers start running off screen.
 
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