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So Devs how about a Summer clean up instead of the Spring clean

THP

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just a nudge!!!! summer starts in 2 weeks = june
 
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Sevin0oo0

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Let's let them relax, and breathe a bit, and just skip this one out. It May be just a bad streak of luck where everything they touch turns to crap, and since last August too, I think they're all probably depressed by now. They even said they get slammed a Lot.
 
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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
 

Cirno

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
If you called it something that isn't Spring Cleaning, then it wouldn't be late for it to be after Spring.
*Cunning*
 

Viquire

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Cal, please let us know way before hand if the up and coming system will in any way affect points we have accumulated and not used on production shards, please?

Thanks so much, I am enjoying watching things unfold.
 

Lady Storm

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Told you all he said it was in the works. Sit back store what you can for the great race to the turn in box...... hehe I can see it now....3/4s of uo will be millions of lockdowns lighter!
 

Merus

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I think I heard that all the development is done. The only thing holding up the release is the execs at EA trying to decide how much per account to charge.
 
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RavenWinterHawk

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yes yes please I so much want to go stand at a box and exchange stuff for new stuff.... that is a great use of time.

Thanks
 
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RavenWinterHawk

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
Anything on random adventure and exploration? Id like to be able to head east and find things that werent there yesterday.
 

Adol

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Psst... Summer starts on June 21st... so there's still 5 weeks / 2 days to go...
It's Australian Spring :p

I can't get too excited about Spring Cleaning myself, unless there's a saddle in the rewards which allows me to ride a cow. Make it so!
 

Apetul

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
A W E S O M E !

Cal, please let us know way before hand if the up and coming system will in any way affect points we have accumulated and not used on production shards, please?
Agree, dont forget the 2008 spring cleaning points we already have

Thanks!!
 
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olduofan

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We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
So its not going to be in spring ?

and what about the old tickets with points we already have ?

thanxs....
 
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nynyve

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How about a keep Britannia Beautiful that goes on all year? This would be a great way to introduce new items.
 

Madrid

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How about a keep Britannia Beautiful that goes on all year? This would be a great way to introduce new items.
I totally agree with this. There needs to be a turn in system that is permanent to clean up clutter not just every 3-4 years.:thumbsup:
 

lucitus

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
Maybe you can design a good system for it, that you can activate it next srping easier.

Iam for a general spring cleaning, it makes sense to clean the chests for the comming year.
 

Atheryn

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I just hope that the turn-in items from the previous Spring Cleaning are still on the list. I just came back to UO a few weeks ago, after being gone for a few years - I didn't get to participate in the 2008 Spring Cleaning event. I still have all the crap I collected during the Ophidian Invasion bogging down my house, lol.
 

soze

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
THanks CAL...better late than not at all...I'll take it!

ALso, could you possible include the Parchment from the Magincia Lotto? Heck, why not, there are't many out there so perhaps we can get good value for them

just asking....
 

Lady Tia

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
Oh man...I SO need this!

And, looking forward to the update! Thanks Cal!
 
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Fayled Dhreams

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It's Australian Spring :p

I can't get too excited about Spring Cleaning myself, unless there's a saddle in the rewards which allows me to ride a cow. Make it so!
Fall/Autumn fool ...yur coming outtyur summer ... going into winter ... ...

soooo

Fall/Autumn ...

:lol: thilly upside down aussies ... blood all rushing into yur heads making ya >backwards< beside upside down ...

Sun rises in the east
fall follows summer ...

/simple ... :danceb:
 

Tjalle

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hehe I can see it now....3/4s of uo will be millions of lockdowns lighter!
For about a week maybe, then everyone starts hoarding stuff in hopes of another Spring Cleaning...
 

jbfortune

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I hope there is a quest for points as well because my junk will only get me so far!
 

T-Hunt

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Having it on all year like Library would be nice.
Give a reason to do the old dungeons for the minors that drop there and Ishnar paragons.

Also some junk from T maps to donate would be nice, sashes ,orbs and them sheilds.

See Cal all you needed to do what just say Hello...nice job. :)

Call it Summer Swap meet..or Block party...
 
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AesSedai

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
- Well if it is already in progress and it looks to be 6 weeks out... why not forget about it and work on more timely/pressing issues to get more people playing? You are already aware of and have your depreciation value predicted; so why not work on that appreciation value of new life already? Unless it is imploding so much that we have to step back, a lot, in order to move forward (err, wait, has that happened before; and if so is it too many times yet?). We cannot live on the depreciation of subscribers alone, EA (<-- you must sell this primitive point, Cal)..
Fix the client(s)/focus on maintainting/improving IP integrity.
The spice must flow
imho
 

Mapper

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
*excited* I hope it includes SOS's because I have hundreds!
 

Basara

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Mapper, it's a shame we aren't on the same shard because I'd gladly give you more than you'd get from the collection for the SOS...

After all, each SOS averages 20k gold, plus all those gems and junk to unravel for my imbuer.
 

THP

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yay!!!!

time to start buying extra junk on the junk vendors for peanuts !!!! yay!!!
 

Adol

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*excited* I hope it includes SOS's because I have hundreds!
Why aren't you using the awesomeness that is the Pinco UI to map them all, Mapper?! I've made about 4m just fishing 300-odd up and flogging off the Kelp Leggings and Enchanted Essence in the last week!

Fayled Dhreams said:
Fall/Autumn fool ...yur coming outtyur summer ... going into winter ... ...
*facepalm*

It's a joke. The point of a joke being to present a new, unexpected, or discordant with reality perspective in order to illicit an amused response. Other online examples include "Valve Time" and "In Two Weeks". Be normal, dancing broccoli less?
 

Demonous

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i really hope the points from last spring cleanup CANNOT be used for this spring clean up, cause if they can that that is extremely unfair to people who used their points, also please DO NOT put the old rewards back in, that would kill the value of all of those items, thanks !
 

Viquire

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i really hope the points from last spring cleanup CANNOT be used for this spring clean up, cause if they can that that is extremely unfair to people who used their points, also please DO NOT put the old rewards back in, that would kill the value of all of those items, thanks !
I agree which is why I asked for a heads up. If they wipe the points without saying something I'm gonna be hot. On the other hand, I think we should start fresh.
 

Apetul

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*excited* I hope it includes SOS's because I have hundreds!
I hope not! too many fishing-scripters on my shard. SOS are now like ore and lumber, just another massively scripted resource.
 
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Woodsman

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I hope not! too many fishing-scripters on my shard. SOS are now like ore and lumber, just another massively scripted resource.
Maybe they could clean up the scripters during this spring cleaning thing. That would rock :thumbsup:
 

Tom_Builder

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Design already in progress :)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame but yes we are doing it ...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well.

- C
As long as you dont call it the "Spring Cleaning Booster Pack" I will be happy.
 

THP

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whaaaaaat????? only $19.99 Spring clean chest booster pack.....with a bonus 5% bank increase too....

u joke u wont buy into it?????? LOL!!!!!
 
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AesSedai

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Maybe they could clean up the scripters during this spring cleaning thing. That would rock :thumbsup:
- Aye, Completely agree; this would be/provide a most beneficial profit margin -futures-based cleansing :)

Fix that foundation if you truly want a solid footprint, and future ...---...

Yes, it is that simple EA (Cal, please help EA save UO - it is this simple, if you can help EA see the light).
 

THP

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Oh and put those heavily duped 2 story statues and the mass duped scaffolds in as a top end reward!!!!! teach the dupers a bloody lesson for a change!!!
 

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Oh and put those heavily duped 2 story statues and the mass duped scaffolds in as a top end reward!!!!! teach the dupers a bloody lesson for a change!!!
In such a case, would the lesson not be along the lines of "there is a lot of profit in duping, up to a point, at which those that have paid for said duped items find their purchases devalued"?

If I were a buyer of said duped item, I would ("buyer beware" notwithstanding) be very disappointed that my rare (that may not be as rare as it could be, but is still rarer than a semi-rare) was significantly devalued.
If I were a duper, I would perhaps be disappointed that an avenue of profit had closed, and then go and swim in my money-pool, Scrooge McDuck style.
 

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If I were a duper, I would perhaps be disappointed that an avenue of profit had closed, and then go and swim in my money-pool, Scrooge McDuck style.
And then solve a mystery or rewrite history! Ducktales (a-wooo)!

(couldn't resist)
 

THP

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?

If I were a buyer of said duped item, I would ("buyer beware" notwithstanding) be very disappointed that my rare (that may not be as rare as it could be, but is still rarer than a semi-rare) was significantly devalued.
If I were a duper, I would perhaps be disappointed that an avenue of profit had closed, and then go and swim in my money-pool, Scrooge McDuck style.
I think it will hit the dupers more to be fair.. the main 2 ''rares'' on the market for sale for real money are these 2 heavily duped beauties.....and they still ask for a high price even though they have probably got chests full of em....

hit the dupers were it hurts most and close this nonsense, most people who have bought one of these in the last year will have considered that 95% chance they are buying a dupe.
 

Viquire

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In such a case, would the lesson not be along the lines of "there is a lot of profit in duping, up to a point, at which those that have paid for said duped items find their purchases devalued"?

If I were a buyer of said duped item, I would ("buyer beware" notwithstanding) be very disappointed that my rare (that may not be as rare as it could be, but is still rarer than a semi-rare) was significantly devalued.
If I were a duper, I would perhaps be disappointed that an avenue of profit had closed, and then go and swim in my money-pool, Scrooge McDuck style.
It's really difficult to discern which side of the fence you are coming down on with this post. As in the past, "buyer-beware" taking its rightfully prominent place in all transactions, it could be considered obvious(?) that the item you are buying is of questionable origin. And you got to enjoy your status for a day, and can spend your points from cleanup on something you do not already have. *shrugs*
 

Cirno

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It's really difficult to discern which side of the fence you are coming down on with this post. As in the past, "buyer-beware" taking its rightfully prominent place in all transactions, it could be considered obvious(?) that the item you are buying is of questionable origin. And you got to enjoy your status for a day, and can spend your points from cleanup on something you do not already have. *shrugs*
Schrödinger's Fence :)
Although, rather than being considered on both sides, it would be more accurate to say I'm not on both sides.
On the one side, we have "Buyer beware, you knew what you were buying" with regards to an item where the choice was "buy the likely-duped item" or "don't have anything of the sort", which is somewhat contrary to the virtual world elements of UO.
On the other, we have "The item remains only available as a duped item".

Both options are undesirable, because in both cases you're functionally punishing the wrong people. The horse has bolted, and whatever you do now, the horse is long-gone. The worst the duper will get is a slightly smaller profit margin (which they could potentially recoup by raising other items prices).
 

puni666

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Design already in progress :) (for next year)

We are calling in Spring Cleaning in the Summer time. Yeah yeah ... it's lame (like booster packs)but yes we are doing it (anyway)...

We will probably have an update on a few other things for you this week as well (JK).

- C
Does anyone else add these things when they read some posts? Or is it just me?
 

Viquire

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Schrödinger's Fence :)

Both options are undesirable, because in both cases you're functionally punishing the wrong people. The horse has bolted, and whatever you do now, the horse is long-gone. The worst the duper will get is a slightly smaller profit margin (which they could potentially recoup by raising other items prices).
The contrarian in me says you aren't punishing anybody. Nobody lost what they bought, the item they bought lost perceived value. That is a very different thing.
 
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:pie: how many people have saved all there junk for this moment! I think you all would benefit from "i wish to place a trash barrel" :D
 

Goldberg-Chessy

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It's really difficult to discern which side of the fence you are coming down on with this post. As in the past, "buyer-beware" taking its rightfully prominent place in all transactions, it could be considered obvious(?) that the item you are buying is of questionable origin. And you got to enjoy your status for a day, and can spend your points from cleanup on something you do not already have. *shrugs*
Schrödinger's Fence :)
Although, rather than being considered on both sides, it would be more accurate to say I'm not on both sides.
On the one side, we have "Buyer beware, you knew what you were buying" with regards to an item where the choice was "buy the likely-duped item" or "don't have anything of the sort", which is somewhat contrary to the virtual world elements of UO.
On the other, we have "The item remains only available as a duped item".

Both options are undesirable, because in both cases you're functionally punishing the wrong people. The horse has bolted, and whatever you do now, the horse is long-gone. The worst the duper will get is a slightly smaller profit margin (which they could potentially recoup by raising other items prices).
You are completely missing the point.

Buyer beware is the rule/law.

You cannot in any way factor in pity on the buyer when going after or prosecuting the criminal.

Its not negotiable if you want to have an effective justice system. Period.

This is one of the few points that is exactly the same ingame and rl.
 
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