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Stones @ Slasher of Veils

lucitus

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Why are they dropping now only on one point and doing an instant kill? Thats not fair! As swarm okay, but on one place why?

Devs can you please reconsider this?

Thanks!
 

Omnius

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explain? The stones the slasher drops are killing it in 1 hit?
 

G.v.P

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explain? The stones the slasher drops are killing it in 1 hit?
After reading this thread I decided to go to sleep, unable to come to a conclusion. "But get me a lavaliere, if this is true," a voice, unbeknownst to me, called out from the dark.
 

Warpig Inc

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Could be a soloing balance. Doesn't Metor Swarm do less over a group then a single target.
 

Basara

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The person is complaining that the stonefall from the slasher kills the player's character in one hit when they attempt to solo.

Technically, the stonefall is actually a succession of attacks while the characters are frozen.

I've rarely known it to let someone LIVE if they get hit with it. Usually the cumulative attacks are enough to kill anyone through max resists and an active bandage going off inside it (Started before the attack), unless they are at the fringe of the attack. This seems to indicate that the attacks have a range modifier.

And, yes, chain lightning and meteor swarm have damage that scales to the number of targets (IIRC, it takes the base damage, multiplies it by 3, then divides it by the number of valid targets (or 2, if there's only one valid target)). But, I don't think that's what's happening at Slasher.

The reason why someone typically gets hit by the worst of the attack is that they are in melee range, when it is initiated - and if there's no other nearby targets for the slasher to switch to, it just sits there keeping the worst over the character. Typically, there will be a hell hound or another person fighting it to distract it - if you lead off the hell hounds and are doing it solo, you are bound to catch the attack a lot worse.
 

MalagAste

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What they are saying is yes it all drops on ONE person but more importantly all the stones are in ONE pile.

I noticed this too the last few times I went Slasher slaying.

The stones all land in a stack. It looks like ONE stone till you start picking them up... sometimes three or four stones in one little pile...

It's very odd. And yes can be devastating if you are the target of the stones.
 

lucitus

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No iam not a crying girly, i am not for soloing it, but when iam there with my dexxer i get killed every time the stonefall is active, equal how much healers i have with me. Also with my archer he caught me and i get moved to him instantly stonefall and iam dead!

And my question is there a tactic out there how todo it?
 
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Macrophage999

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No iam not a crying girly, i am not for soloing it, but when iam there with my dexxer i get killed every time the stonefall is active, equal how much healers i have with me. Also with my archer he caught me and i get moved to him instantly stonefall and iam dead!

And my question is there a tactic out there how todo it?
This encounter is broken and you are not the first one to complain. A stun to death ability is against any sensible design.
 
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Oaka

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It doesn't just do it to dexxers it does it to mages and it has been doing it since I've been doing slasher (past year)

People die at slasher....just like they do at stygian dragon.....they are considered "bosses". There are things in this game that are meant to be challenging. Please stop trying to make everything in this game easy.

You can live through it btw.....you just have to use your brain a little bit.
 
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Macrophage999

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It doesn't just do it to dexxers it does it to mages and it has been doing it since I've been doing slasher (past year)

People die at slasher....just like they do at stygian dragon.....they are considered "bosses". There are things in this game that are meant to be challenging. Please stop trying to make everything in this game easy.

You can live through it btw.....you just have to use your brain a little bit.
I am sorry but sure death has nothing to do with challenge. Guaranteed death is just a grief, thus a broken design. And yes you can survive through Slashers provided you have two characters cross healing (with the heal skill) and don't lag. That doesn't mean the encounter isn't broken (it actually shows the other way imo).
 

G.v.P

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Are you guys talking about the white wash, and the slasher walking up to you and then you can't run away before it kills you? If that's being talked about then simply use a heal pot or a healing stone and you'll be okay.
 
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Macrophage999

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Are you guys talking about the white wash, and the slasher walking up to you and then you can't run away before it kills you? If that's being talked about then simply use a heal pot or a healing stone and you'll be okay.
You must not have done Slashers much...
 

G.v.P

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You must not have done Slashers much...
Maybe not. But the only thing that could ever kill me, while doing the Slasher, is the white screen in which you can't move. Except if I have a heal pot, and then it's pretty easy to stay alive during that part. Unless they changed something in like the last few weeks, Slasher has always been pretty easy for me to kill.

The only things I die to in PvM are tormented minotaurs and sometimes the stygian dragon, but I can use a heal pot or healing stone to heal through it's area/breath too.
 
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Macrophage999

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Maybe not. But the only thing that could ever kill me, while doing the Slasher, is the white screen in which you can't move. Except if I have a heal pot, and then it's pretty easy to stay alive during that part. Unless they changed something in like the last few weeks, Slasher has always been pretty easy for me to kill.

The only things I die to in PvM are tormented minotaurs and sometimes the stygian dragon, but I can use a heal pot or healing stone to heal through it's area/breath too.
It's that white screen in which you cannot move indeed, then you have rocks falling on you (plus slashers hitting you). You can survive some with a heal pot, but you will always die at some point, even with heal stone (it likes to chain it sometimes). That stun to death attack is not relevant.
 

Naxatilor Feluka

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I solo slashers. With the proper combination of healing and heal potions you can survive it every time. Keep in mind that you need 4 second heals, so when he hits you , your stamina drops and thus drops your healing time. Drink refresh potions to keep stamina up, heal potions in between heals, use strength and agility potions because his curse is brutal without resist spells. 50 Enhance potions recommended if your serious about slashers.

Try to tell me im wrong ill show you my lavaliere, mangler, and 50 slasher of veils claws.
 
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Macrophage999

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I have that many claws as well and much more slasher deaths... There is something wrong in your reasoning. The rock fall lasts a few seconds. There is a timer between pots and a huge timer between heal pots. There is also a timer between using a pot and using a bandaid, or a apple. So it seems to me that you are just lieing. 3 arties out of only 50 slashers would be incredible luck btw... (I personnally have got none and can show you the claws).
 

lucitus

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I have that many claws as well and much more slasher deaths... There is something wrong in your reasoning. The rock fall lasts a few seconds. There is a timer between pots and a huge timer between heal pots. There is also a timer between using a pot and using a bandaid, or a apple. So it seems to me that you are just lieing. 3 arties out of only 50 slashers would be incredible luck btw... (I personnally have got none and can show you the claws).
I would also say the damage is too high for a simple heal potion which restores max 40 hitpoints the stones are doing around 700 dmg, also a greater dragon get killed by one stonefall, this cant be healed with a heal potion. Maybe with a perfect timend bandage at the beginning middle and end, there could be a chance.
 

G.v.P

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I would also say the damage is too high for a simple heal potion which restores max 40 hitpoints the stones are doing around 700 dmg, also a greater dragon get killed by one stonefall, this cant be healed with a heal potion. Maybe with a perfect timend bandage at the beginning middle and end, there could be a chance.
Well obviously the Slasher isn't meant to be tanked by a tamer. Ideally you'd use a mystic dexxer or a mystic in general. Most commonly you'll have a pair of mytic dexxers who crossheal. As it is right now, I assume you could just use hell hound treats to get the job done.
 
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