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Devs, what are your plans?

puni666

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You said you were discussing what to change about Mysticism. Was wondering if anything's set in stone yet? And if you can respond... what is it that you plan on doing/fixing/changing/balancing?
 
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Cal_Mythic

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You said you were discussing what to change about Mysticism. Was wondering if anything's set in stone yet? And if you can respond... what is it that you plan on doing/fixing/changing/balancing?
Hey puni ...
There was an FAQ Friday answered on this question ... I know I got the internal response in email. Let me see if I can fish it out ...

From Logrus:


Stone form will be fixed
Spell plague will be tweaked slightly
Cleansing winds will be tweaked slightly.

And the other issue of the magic arrow spam/nether bolt, are TBD.


This is not a final answer (as far as numbers) but you asked, so just trying to get a response for you. Final implementation will vary in live gameplay :)

- Cal
 
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canary

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Awesome! Now let's try another question...

Cal, THREE YEARS AGO we were told the male paperdoll would be redone. When is the ETA on that? It's the single most pointed out graphic that people cite as why the artwork in the EC is ugly.


Hey puni ...
There was an FAQ Friday answered on this question ... I know I got the internal response in email. Let me see if I can fish it out ...

From Logrus:


Stone form will be fixed
Spell plague will be tweaked slightly
Cleansing winds will be tweaked slightly.

And the other issue of the magic arrow spam/nether bolt, are TBD.


This is not a final answer (as far as numbers) but you asked, so just trying to get a response for you. Final implementation will vary in live gameplay :)

- Cal
 

Otis Firefly

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i think the single most complaint would be the Dragons..and cyclopse/ titans being the same size as mongbats doesnt help much either....lol
 

puni666

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Hey puni ...
There was an FAQ Friday answered on this question ... I know I got the internal response in email. Let me see if I can fish it out ...

From Logrus:


Stone form will be fixed
Spell plague will be tweaked slightly
Cleansing winds will be tweaked slightly.

And the other issue of the magic arrow spam/nether bolt, are TBD.


This is not a final answer (as far as numbers) but you asked, so just trying to get a response for you. Final implementation will vary in live gameplay :)

- Cal
Mucho gracias sir! Can't wait to hear the specifics! :D. Oh are these changes after the booster sometime or are they part of it?
 

Mervyn

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I'm happy with all of those.

Priorities should be:

Balancing pvp
Booster pack
EC
 

puni666

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Hey puni ...
There was an FAQ Friday answered on this question ... I know I got the internal response in email. Let me see if I can fish it out ...

From Logrus:


Stone form will be fixed
Spell plague will be tweaked slightly
Cleansing winds will be tweaked slightly.

And the other issue of the magic arrow spam/nether bolt, are TBD.


This is not a final answer (as far as numbers) but you asked, so just trying to get a response for you. Final implementation will vary in live gameplay :)

- Cal
When will we be seeing this?
 

Ls Jax Ls

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Stone form will be fixed
Spell plague will be tweaked slightly
Cleansing winds will be tweaked slightly.
By "slightly", I hope you mean drastically.

And the other issue of the magic arrow spam/nether bolt, are TBD.
Seriously? Don't understand why this isn't a number one priority. If ma/ma doesn't work, how does it make sense ma/nb works when they are practically equivalent?
 

MalagAste

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Awesome! Now let's try another question...

Cal, THREE YEARS AGO we were told the male paperdoll would be redone. When is the ETA on that? It's the single most pointed out graphic that people cite as why the artwork in the EC is ugly.
I'm with you on that!

And I agree with Otis Firefly too.... my poor dragon feels pathetic now in the EC. He's got an inferiority complex.
 

puni666

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Hey puni ...
There was an FAQ Friday answered on this question ... I know I got the internal response in email. Let me see if I can fish it out ...

From Logrus:


Stone form will be fixed
Spell plague will be tweaked slightly
Cleansing winds will be tweaked slightly.

And the other issue of the magic arrow spam/nether bolt, are TBD.


This is not a final answer (as far as numbers) but you asked, so just trying to get a response for you. Final implementation will vary in live gameplay :)

- Cal
Again.. when is this coming?
 

puni666

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Id be thoroughly surprised if its done in october, but realisticly speaking, maybe around xmas. And thats being optimistic about it.
Yeah most likely. He said and something else juicy, but that's probably just some hippy halloween stuff. Snooze...
 
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Wojoe

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Nothing like leaving us hanging, you'd think EA would address the games issue's faster...I for one believe that's why so many people leave UO.

And Cal, If you can not balance the game as is, why would anyone in there right mind pay for a classic PVP booster?

Also, I do not wish to start over. After 12 years I have trained enough so im going to pass on your classic but not really classic server.
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Hey puni ...
There was an FAQ Friday answered on this question ... I know I got the internal response in email. Let me see if I can fish it out ...

From Logrus:


Stone form will be fixed
Spell plague will be tweaked slightly
Cleansing winds will be tweaked slightly.

And the other issue of the magic arrow spam/nether bolt, are TBD.


This is not a final answer (as far as numbers) but you asked, so just trying to get a response for you. Final implementation will vary in live gameplay :)

- Cal
While you are at it, please make animal form purgeable again with purge magic.

...and when you consider your thoughts on ma/nether bolt...keep in mind that magic arrow/magic arrow scroll has been used for years. In addition, a character is required to spend 480 skill points to use the ma/nb combo...which may do as much combined damage as a lightning but cannot interrupt a bandaid.

Oh yeah, and please tweak SDI...it is nearly impossible for a mage template to do enough damage to interrupt a bandage. This part of the game has not been tweaked since the days when people wore 40/50s elemental resists suits. If tweaking SDI is not high on your list, then drop down the damage needed to interrupt said bandage. Cal, bandy takes 4 secs...a mage does not have the ability to even interrupt that bandaid anymore...at least not enough to stop it from healing.

If you can manage those things in your list of tweaks, many a mage will be happy with the progress of the game.
 

Ls Jax Ls

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If you can manage those things in your list of tweaks, many a mage will be happy with the progress of the game.
Many mages will be happy when they can play a template without mysticism effectively.
 
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Babble

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I think an EA 'Soon' describes best what is planned.
Somewhat between a big maybe and never.
 

Ls Jax Ls

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I think an EA 'Soon' describes best what is planned.
Somewhat between a big maybe and never.
Everyone thought FEMA was bad...if EA Mythic was in charge people would still be trapped in the Superdome.
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Many mages will be happy when they can play a template without mysticism effectively.
Why do you always troll? Even your threads are trolls. Hell, after posting my fishing thread you even considered trolling that...but there was nothing for you to grasp onto.

Please show me any mage templates out there that are actually effective in pvp aside from tamers. Don't tell me scribe either, scribes are crap now too.
 

Elden of Baja

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Lol

Magic Arrow
Nether Bolt

Two Seperate Spells........

And BTW have you ever tried actually mastering the timing of them? Actually being able to chain them out back to back without overcasting either. You can do a Nether Bolt, Magic arrow, Nether bolt before the damage has ticked off from the first one, MEANING the damage from that second one Doesn't land. It takes a lot of practice.

What? Not being able to disrupt bandages with a spell....... I still remember the good old days when mages would make absolute sure you were cursed before doing anything.

evil omen
explo
flamestrike
evil omen (before the flamestrike goes off)
evil omen
pain spike

By that point your normally dead. Or Better YET

Evil Omen
Explo
Spell Plague
Evil omen (Before the Explo Lands!)
Pain Spike
Spell Trigger

Boom YOU DEAD! I guess that extra SDI you are looking for is found here

Curse, Evil Omen, Scribe

Both of these assume you don't have

a) Hiding on your template
b) Ninjistu on your template
 
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Babble

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Disclaimer:
Cal never said soon and it is my invention and no developer promised anything!

Though I think that 'Somewhat between a big maybe and never' still stands.

Stop taking me so seriously and with 'soon' I mean an 'EA soon', which on these boards has its own Trademark.
:p
 

puni666

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This doesn't seem like rocket science to any level. Just observe and fix.. what the heck's going on? You can put in multiple publishes for some revamp of the most boring thing to do in UO (fishing), but you can't make a few simple adjustments for mysticism?
 
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Vaelix

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Evil Omen
Explo <- Cleansing
Spell Plague
Evil omen (Before the Explo Lands!)
Pain Spike
Spell Trigger

Boom YOU DEAD! I guess that extra SDI you are looking for is found here
At the point of the Explo, any intelligent Mystic would cast a Cleansing and completely ruin your Combo there, friend. (Hell even a *Quicker cast* Gheal from a Mage)
 

Restroom Cowboy

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This doesn't seem like rocket science to any level. Just observe and fix.. what the heck's going on? You can put in multiple publishes for some revamp of the most boring thing to do in UO (fishing), but you can't make a few simple adjustments for mysticism?
I think the point here is they are trying to balance things so mages still can make a diff in the game...

I still have yet to see the devs. tackle the *create food* debacle for dexxers. This has been around for quite some time and gives dexxers a direct advantage in the game. Being able to switch weps and be able to insta special move is not as intended. It is the dexxer equivalent of a mage casting a second ebolt while circumventing the spell timer (insta cast).

@ Elden...obviously you didnt consider the fact that it takes over 20 dmg in order to cause enough damage to slip a bandaid...and then it takes another 40 to make it fail. Please explain to me the last time you did 60 dmg to a dexxer in between his heal? Again, it has been YEARS since a mage has been able to make a dexxy bandy completely fail. If you don't think so, ask around.

BTW...curse is something I never forget to use...but good luck pulling that 60 dmg in less than 4 secs casting spells!
 
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Wojoe

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Lol

Magic Arrow
Nether Bolt

Two Seperate Spells........

And BTW have you ever tried actually mastering the timing of them? Actually being able to chain them out back to back without overcasting either. You can do a Nether Bolt, Magic arrow, Nether bolt before the damage has ticked off from the first one, MEANING the damage from that second one Doesn't land. It takes a lot of practice.

What? Not being able to disrupt bandages with a spell....... I still remember the good old days when mages would make absolute sure you were cursed before doing anything.

evil omen
explo
flamestrike
evil omen (before the flamestrike goes off)
evil omen
pain spike

By that point your normally dead. Or Better YET

Evil Omen
Explo
Spell Plague
Evil omen (Before the Explo Lands!)
Pain Spike
Spell Trigger

Boom YOU DEAD! I guess that extra SDI you are looking for is found here

Curse, Evil Omen, Scribe

Both of these assume you don't have

a) Hiding on your template
b) Ninjistu on your template


Mages do not get to cast necro spells. A mage is not a viable templet now, you need to be a mystic mage, spellweaving mage or a neco mage...just being a mage is useless now.
 

Ls Jax Ls

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I think the point here is they are trying to balance things so mages still can make a diff in the game...
Mysticism = balanced? Most false statement in the history of the world.
 

Elden of Baja

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okay, Let me rephrase this.

Topic was about Disrupting Bandage healing Dexxers.... So cleansing winds at the explo......

And I've Never Been Damaged for up to Sixty, but close. Curse + Evil Omen +Flamestrike will hit you for upwards of 40. The Point of the Dump was to Kill you with all the damage landing in 4 seconds.

Mages do not get to cast necro spells.
If you play a straight necro mage you sure as hell can, and there are even hybrid necro templates that don't go full blown necro and ss.

As far as playing a solo Mage, yeah ninja mysto is what everyone uses, But in group fights I prefer dropping the ninja and going hybrid.
 

puni666

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Mages do not get to cast necro spells. A mage is not a viable templet now, you need to be a mystic mage, spellweaving mage or a neco mage...just being a mage is useless now.
Why would you only be a straight mage when you have the extra skill points to use for an assist skill? The point is here that mysticism is an OP assist skill. Everything is based off of being a weapon combat class or a mage class. Not having one or the other for pvp seems a bit pointless, and the character would be more of a burden then anything for a group.
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Mysticism = balanced? Most false statement in the history of the world.
When considering every other template out there...yes...I do. Nothing false about it. I can now fight the twink templates that were kicking my behind on a scribe toe to toe. Aside from a tamer (which is gimp on its own) there really is not/has not been a mage temp out there that could compete in this ever changing game on the same level as these dexxies (until now).

I don't know where you have been hiding, but up till mysticism...dexxers really have had the upper hand. You say that having another template out there that can compete with the rest of the silliness is a bad thing, I again call it balanced.

BTW, do you think a mystic mage can do enough dmg to interrupt AND MAKE FAIL a players bandage? They can't.

So instead of just being a typical troll and telling me I am wrong, how about you give examples and this can actually be a discussion?
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Why would you only be a straight mage when you have the extra skill points to use for an assist skill? The point is here that mysticism is an OP assist skill. Everything is based off of being a weapon combat class or a mage class. Not having one or the other for pvp seems a bit pointless, and the character would be more of a burden then anything for a group.
...spell weaving and necro have become rather limited. I think I made the point earlier that the big issue with mage templates is damage done...it is not on par with a dexxy...

I mean come on, there are soooo many more issues that have an effect on this game aside from spell plague and mystic. When was the last time you used *create food* on your dexxer? Would you like it if I were able to cast a second ebolt on top of my first with no casting delay? Same thing...only different.

Point is, quit crying and take a good long hard look at the entire system. Don't blame mysticism as the problem...blame the underlying system responsible for equivalent damage being out of whack.

BTW, please answer me this...when was the last time you failed a bandage completely while fighting a mage? If you say within the last few years, you would more than likely be lying.
 

puni666

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...spell weaving and necro have become rather limited. I think I made the point earlier that the big issue with mage templates is damage done...it is not on par with a dexxy...

I mean come on, there are soooo many more issues that have an effect on this game aside from spell plague and mystic. When was the last time you used *create food* on your dexxer? Would you like it if I were able to cast a second ebolt on top of my first with no casting delay? Same thing...only different.

Point is, quit crying and take a good long hard look at the entire system. Don't blame mysticism as the problem...blame the underlying system responsible for equivalent damage being out of whack.

BTW, please answer me this...when was the last time you failed a bandage completely while fighting a mage? If you say within the last few years, you would more than likely be lying.
Yeah that's true, I think it's a big problem that you can over buff your resists past 70 to prevent corpse skin from affecting your fire/poison resists. I think it should be limited to 70 that's it. The only over buff should be from specific transformations.

And mysticism isn't THE problem it's just the most recent problem. Then you add in all the old problems that go overlooked and you can't help but question what the dev's are thinking. They have all this content that's already in play that they could repair and make things enjoyable, but they just have to add something else in to add to the mess.
 

Ls Jax Ls

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Yeah that's true, I think it's a big problem that you can over buff your resists past 70 to prevent corpse skin from affecting your fire/poison resists. I think it should be limited to 70 that's it. The only over buff should be from specific transformations.
50+ damage flamestrike omens? No thanks.
 

Ls Jax Ls

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Trap box the evil omen. It SHOULD have an effect to a certain point not no effect what so ever.
Do damage to myself to avoid damage? That makes sense...
 

Ls Jax Ls

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Why not. 30 damage.. or 60 damage? Heck I deal damage to myself just to start a bandage and completely throw off a mages timing.
Omen does not double damage. Lol.
 
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olduofan

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sorry but they are all very busy with much more important things right now to address this issue

they most find a way to remove the CLOTH ha

know for real im sure they will get to this next year some time this is a very busy time of the year for them ...... ya think ?
 
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