This.Everyone needs to specialize somewhat, you can't have it all.
False.This.Everyone needs to specialize somewhat, you can't have it all.
Does a warrior only get to keep 5 swords in his house, bankbox,and backpack combined? Does a mage only get to know 5 spells at one time?This.Everyone needs to specialize somewhat, you can't have it all.
max is 14 that's with all skills maxed outHow many does a tamer have currently?
... and why do they need more? How do you fill all that anyway? Unless they're just collecting them like Beanie Babies.max is 14 that's with all skills maxed out
not the best comparison I know, lol - just saying that it'd be nice to be able to have what you want (as many others do with their respective skills)How many does a tamer have currently?
@ kittykat: That's really not a good comparison as most tamers have weapons they use, and most are spell casters too.
A better comparison would be to say: do warriors only get 5 meat shield tanks to use to further compliment their slightly sub-par offensive capabilities?
didn't realize it was that many either - I just haven't gotten there as I'm casually taming as I play, but yeah, collecting like beanie babies *laughs* (hmmm maybe my OCD is just showing LOL)... and why do they need more? How do you fill all that anyway? Unless they're just collecting them like Beanie Babies.max is 14 that's with all skills maxed out
Nah no good. Only if they can use 5 meat shields at a time. Stables are the same as secure containers. Should be 125 maximum like a container. Or bring back making the pets into a statue and store them at home.How many does a tamer have currently?
@ kittykat: That's really not a good comparison as most tamers have weapons they use, and most are spell casters too.
A better comparison would be to say: do warriors only get 5 meat shield tanks to use to further compliment their slightly sub-par offensive capabilities?
The Skill Cap would be better compaired to follower count. The Stable would be better compaired to your bank box or house storage.Isn't this argument kind of the same as having a higher skill cap? Everyone needs to specialize somewhat, you can't have it all.
I've had a lot of friend over the years who are pack rats in UO. Just cannot get rid of their items, so their houses get full quickly. But just because their house is full of stuff, doesn't mean houses need more storage space. It just means they either need to learn house to cull what they don't really want, or they need to get a second account.Pack of Frenzied take of 5 slots already, most have a beetle and a mare as a GDragon, Cu and Hyriu. Thats 10 already, then you have players like me that have pets there to fond of to get rid of. My WW may not be as good as it once was but it was my first power pet. My Fire Steed I am attached to and like to use it when I need spellweaving. Imps + Fire Steed isn't half bad. I have a reppy because I am hoping one day they get a buff to be more in line with the CU's as far as being worth the 4 slots. And thats kind of the situation most tamers are in I believe. A Tamer not only has to train there skills but they have to train there pets skills as well and that can take awhile and it's hard to just say ....... "Oh well time to release you so I can try out a skree!".
lol when I can put as much in my stables as I can in my house then I will accept the anology. Until then.......... not really.I've had a lot of friend over the years who are pack rats in UO. Just cannot get rid of their items, so their houses get full quickly. But just because their house is full of stuff, doesn't mean houses need more storage space. It just means they either need to learn house to cull what they don't really want, or they need to get a second account.
... and getting a second account is comparable to getting a second tamer, not necessarily an actual second account. Attached to that specific character? That's ok too, give the second one the same name and skills.
Because they're there?... and why do they need more?
Here's what I've tested on closed beta: Boura: Highlands boura takes 3 slots, the Lowlands is the best of the 2 slots, and ruddy is the worst. Lowlands and ruddy both take 2 slots and just have a couple resists switched around. Bouras are capable of the ability of 2 bake-kitsunes, maybe.Boura - 3 types
Raptor
Slith
Stone Slith
Skree
Iron Beetle?
and possibly more
8 more types of critters thats why we need more stable slots.
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I see no problem with that.Seeing as we're likening it to extra storage..
Stable Expansion Token! $9.99!!
If it were a decent bump in slots (say 3 more per char), I'd buy one or two.
Ugh.Seeing as we're likening it to extra storage..
Stable Expansion Token! $9.99!!
If it were a decent bump in slots (say 3 more per char), I'd buy one or two.
If your going to take that attitude then the key word is SOULSTONES.Isn't this argument kind of the same as having a higher skill cap? Everyone needs to specialize somewhat, you can't have it all.
That would be awsome.Or bring back making the pets into a statue and store them at home.
This.If your going to take that attitude then the key word is SOULSTONES.
You can have every skill in the game but can only use 7 of them at any one time. How is that different from being able to own every pet in the game and only use 1 or 2 at a time?
I rest my case. More stable slots please.
People keep comparing Tamer's pets to Warriors weapons. It's a bad comparison. Sure, their pets are their main damage output, but they're a *lot* more than that, they're their own 1000 hp meat shield that casts spells too.Well, you don't need to buy a token to carry 20+ weapons in your bag which can be equipped straight away. So I don't see why a tamer, who can only take out 5 slots worth of pets at a time, should be so restricted in what they can stable. We can't use them all at once. I'll happily convert some house storage into stabling, but I'm not paying for my pet count unless the swordsman beside me has to pay for his weapons once he hits 14. And that's presuming he has 3 skills at 120![]()
It would be a really good selling point for SA if they gave us a stack of extra stable space, but I guess it's too logical to give a class new pets and also the stable space to accommodate them lol. Bit of a missed marketing opportunity though.
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Regardles .. it doesnt really matter if a tamer has 100 GD's in his stable ... he can only use one at a time.People keep comparing Tamer's pets to Warriors weapons. It's a bad comparison. Sure, their pets are their main damage output, but they're a *lot* more than that, they're their own 1000 hp meat shield that casts spells too.
A Tamer's weapon is his weapon, (Swords of prosperity, Staff of Pyros, Bows for archer tamers), a Tamer's spells are his spells, a tamer's pet is his own personal meat-shield, spell-casting, Heavily-armored TANK: it really doesn't compare very well.
Just add a few more slots would be okJust curious I have no room for more pets and really dont want to have to work up a whole new tamer just to be able to enjoy some of the new critter?
How do the rest of you fell?
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It does if the addition of too many stable slots increases the overall strain on the server, and events such as the shadowlord spawns and the luna invasions lag more than they currently have.Regardles .. it doesnt really matter if a tamer has 100 GD's in his stable ... he can only use one at a time.
Seeing as we're likening it to extra storage..
Stable Expansion Token! $9.99!!
If it were a decent bump in slots (say 3 more per char), I'd buy one or two.
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Took the words right out of my mouth!!!Does a warrior only get to keep 5 swords in his house, bankbox,and backpack combined? Does a mage only get to know 5 spells at one time?
The pets are the tamer's weapon, why does he/she have to be limited in his/her weapon choices, unlike any other combat type?
Stable slots just allow the tamer a chance to work at getting together the best weapons possible, as anyone else would do...or perhaps keep that sentimental item too (my warrior keeps an old piece of armor made by a friend long gone - my tamer? she had to give a ferret given to her at xmas off to a side account to hold, kept but never seen).
Is it truely that bad of an issue not to consider?
Let me put it in a more basic way then. I fail to see why tamers should justify storage space requirements when other classes don't.People keep comparing Tamer's pets to Warriors weapons. It's a bad comparison. Sure, their pets are their main damage output, but they're a *lot* more than that, they're their own 1000 hp meat shield that casts spells too.
A Tamer's weapon is his weapon, (Swords of prosperity, Staff of Pyros, Bows for archer tamers), a Tamer's spells are his spells, a tamer's pet is his own personal meat-shield, spell-casting, Heavily-armored TANK: it really doesn't compare very well.
If you're going to compare tamers to fighters, the best comparison would be Pets are Fighters weapons, enhancement skills (such as bushido and chiv), and full suit of armor.
Actually the more that I think about it, the more that I feel that it *is* a fair comparison. What you are doing is comparing a tamer to a warrior, skillset to skillset, but that's not what this thread is about. What we're comparing is a tamer's storage to a warrior's storage. It irrelevant what their skillset is in this regard because a tamer is still bound by the control slots (which no one here has asked to be increased). A warrior can keep any number of weapons and armor, bound only by his bankbox and house storage capacity (which is at minimum, over 100 spaces, and more likely into the 1000s). The tamer simply can not keep many of his (main) weapons and must make tough choices because of that.People keep comparing Tamer's pets to Warriors weapons. It's a bad comparison. Sure, their pets are their main damage output, but they're a *lot* more than that, they're their own 1000 hp meat shield that casts spells too.
A Tamer's weapon is his weapon, (Swords of prosperity, Staff of Pyros, Bows for archer tamers), a Tamer's spells are his spells, a tamer's pet is his own personal meat-shield, spell-casting, Heavily-armored TANK: it really doesn't compare very well.
If you're going to compare tamers to fighters, the best comparison would be Pets are Fighters weapons, enhancement skills (such as bushido and chiv), and full suit of armor.
Agreed! Fink FTW.Seeing as we're likening it to extra storage..
Stable Expansion Token! $9.99!!
If it were a decent bump in slots (say 3 more per char), I'd buy one or two.
QFT, well said MissE.The decision you have to 'make' is 'which pet should I use'. THAT should be the choice, not what you store.
So you are saying, in comparison, that a warrior should also be limited on the amount of Weps he or she hasIsn't this argument kind of the same as having a higher skill cap? Everyone needs to specialize somewhat, you can't have it all.
What she said.This game is supposed to be for FUN
Why should anything that limit's fun be in the game? ALL CHARACTERS tamers or not should have a stable that is treated like any other container or bank box with 125 'slots'. All it is is a form of 'storage'. It makes no difference to server load if I store 125 pets or 125 pieces of armor, they all have mods/etc that need to be 'recorded' etc.
Why should a fencer be able to store 500 fencing weapons, or an archer store 500 bows yet a tamer be limited to 14 pets.
There is NO good argument for this other than sheer pettiness on the part of those who stomp and shout 'NO increase', it is totally pathetic.
And please none of the 'you have to make decisions' 'can't have everything' etc yadda yadda .........why should they not...... given that no other class is forced to toss out their stuff once they have 14 of them?
As I said, stable slots should be for all characters, not just tamers. And before any tamer starts up with 'I trained taming therefore I should have more slots' that is total rubbish too. A tamer trains to have the ability to USE pets which is the benefit of being a tamer.
A non tamer has just as much right to store a fire beetle, blue beetle, fav horse, their swampy and other novelty pets such as ferrets and squirrels.
The stable should be treated the same as ANY OTHER CONTAINER. It makes no one overpowered and creates absolutely ZERO imbalance. All more slots does is open up the enjoyment factor for tamers and non tamers alike. I really wonder sometimes why UO players seem to have such stupid mentalities when it comes to stuff that cannot 'hurt' them in any way, shape or form because it has no bearing on game balance.
All I know if is MY tamer had the slots spare there would be a hell of a lot more things I would be able to do in game, such as train up 20 chickens for 'fight night' to hand out to 'contestants' who wanted to participate, or tame a bunch of critters to sell other tamers who maybe don't have as much time to play, or actually be able to USE my tamer to always be taming and training and improving my stock while maintaining stuff to actually 'play' with while training up others etc
And I know my crafter is definitely sick to death of 'getting out packy' 'putting in blue beetle' 'getting out fire beetle' 'putting back packy' each time she wants to switch from the blue to the fire beetle. It was also pretty upsetting when I had to 'dump' a bluebird a friend gave me yrs ago as there was no room for it,. Sometimes she has a need to for more pack animals but no chance with this ridiculous stable set up.
For goodness sake why do people have to carry on so much about what 'other' people should or shouldn't have. This is a 'game'. The decision you have to 'make' is 'which pet should I use'. THAT should be the choice, not what you store.