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I am just curious if you actually faught BTH while you were on Origin? Seriously have you? If you did I assure you that you would have realized that BTH did not fight away from instant chokes . . . . EVER lol as I and OptPrime were members of BTH in the opening months of Origin, we know this first hand.
I can just imagine it now the Great EVIL in full force all 100% of your members on LA. . . Instead of just having the 40% of your trash guild getting in the way of real pvpers like myself we would have had an entire trash army to res non stop!!! wow such impact players you were.
VaMp's beat BTH when they were at their peak, EVIL couldn't even last 2 months on a brand new server against BTH. The fact you would even compare EVIL to a guild like VaMp is just absurd let alone call yourselves a better challenge then XTC.
Next time you want to give a history lesson, please make it about someone that actually mattered.
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Yah, we faught BTH every day.
It is very true they had numbers, and preferred a grinder to pvp, but you would get a few that actually knew how to PVP and would come out of the grinder. Our favorite spot to PVP was just outside of Ice dungeon.
There were no grinder points, and not the entire BTH guild would show up.
Evil was a close knit bunch of guys, we had about 10 guys and gals in it. For the life of me, I can not remember our guild name on Origin now, but I know we had a lot of fun.
As for XTC, there had some skilled guys in there. If I remember, our guys joined there when Evil stopped playing.
Vamp begged and begged Evil to align with them. This was before they had so many people in it, so propabbly before you joined.
I haven't played UO in almost 2 years, so I have no idea what current status of guilds are and so on. If Vamp is anything like they were when I played, they are nothing more than a 5v1 type of player. None of them could handle their own, and required the help of those around them to succeed. a Perfect example of that is you. You were in BTH, one of Great Lakes largest guild. The guild that controled Origin. And you came over to LA, and dropped the loosing guild to join an even bigger guild. That shows incredible loyalty, and skills on your part. Call me crazy, but I'd say you were the type of person that wouldn't leave the BTH grinder to pvp me on Origin. The GM must have been, Miss White, you suck, so just sit here in the entrance and wither. That way you'll get to loot anyone that comes in the front door. and might get the last kill on someone so you can make your 1400 bucks.
It really is a shame no one is left on this board.
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You do realize that when I left BTH I took 5 of their top 10 players with me? ? We weren't interested in fighting in grinders all day long so we went ' home ' to Lake Austin where we joined up with XTC until Ki'Marhi Scrible had to quit the game which is when we joined VaMp. We were already in VaMp before BTH arrived on the shard. We were the reason BTH came to Lake Austin. Pubamoto was furious 5 of his best guildies at the time left him, he wanted to show us our mistake in leaving by taking over LA. Instead they suffered severe losses and had to leave within weeks to rebuild morale.
Unfortunatly BTH never had time to recover, because 4 months later FL arrived on Origin and finished what VaMp had already started. The rumors of BTH's demise eventually found their way to me, and I can't help but feel guilty for what happened to them.
It keeps going threw my mind that if I never left they wouldn't have got humiliated on LA.
If I never took their best players with me when I left they would have had skill to fall back on.
I can't travel back in time to fix what has happened, so I have to live with the shame of knowing that me and my 5 friends of mine ultimately destroyed the machine.
Hopefully to ease my pain I will travel to Origin and meet the Fallen Lords head on, and maybe one day in the future all the wrong I did will become right once again. Maybe those of us who left BTH that have now returned will inspire them to fight once again.