Thats a very short list of crying Siege players.You don't read Stratics with all the other fellow siege players crying to please not allow them..maybe the Devs actually listened, strange....
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really then why are those spell books still blessed? Bo doesnt see you pushing for those to become unblessed, know why cause you and yours use them.You know you can count on me to be against vending machine arties and any thing blessed. I think we won this time.
As a note. There is nothing stopping any one from playing the full content of Publish 86 on any shard ya so wish. Bonus is! Ya get to still play Siege when ya want.
Well, since those people who are not into pvp will obviously not want to join VvV and everyone who IS into pvp, especially reds like yourself who are already freely attackable, and can attack anyone freely outside of town, WILL join, faction arties would only give a boost to pkers vs peaceful, thus an imbalance.So it seems siege didnt get the vvv artis, why is that? Do we not pay the same subscription rates as everyone else? So there is no risk vs reward on siege?
what damage did farties do to siege? Did it chase off non pvpers? alliance and guild wars what are you talking about?We had seen how much damage factions arties did to the shard in the past, no need to do same mistake 2 times.
I think the VvV system is fine as it is here as it improve alliances and guild wars.
I like, not all in a guild have to join and joining gives you far more enemies than guild wars did. Also the facts, that it do not mess up alliances as Faction did is cool.
Yes it did chase of non faction PvP'ers and non PvP'ers too as no one had a chance vs the overpowered Faction items we had a few years ago.what damage did farties do to siege? Did it chase off non pvpers? alliance and guild wars what are you talking about?
Yes we lost PvP'ers who did not want to be in faction and a guild like GIL almost stopped trying to PvP, they did try to PvP in the past.Ok as the Bo sees it, on todays Siege there is far more non pvpers here than pvpers. So your theory of losing non pvpers doesnt hold much water. We lost all the pvpers because it was too hard for the pvpers to get the gear needed to pvp.
Yes they want easy and cheap PvP gear, but it will work well if it comes from crafters and monster killers. As long they can find a new suit, when they need one, all will be fine.Uvtha is 100% correct in his thinking. You arent going to keep pvpers here if they have to farm gear everytime they die. They are pvpers not farmers. And dont tell the Bo there are people here sellin good gear, more like hording it.
You never know, give it a little time, I'm sure it will changes the alliances and you will see more PvP'ers cross the guilds.As for your guild/alliance wars VvV system, what does that matter this shard is ruled by a 230+ guild with several other large alliances. Do you really think they are going to fight anyone?
Yes farties did chase people off. To non faction folks there is no orange. Yet faction players could lay waste to any non PvP folks they found outside a guard zone. Factions was totally screwed up by dev teams in the past trying to cater to PvPers. Pvpers are not the majority.what damage did farties do to siege? Did it chase off non pvpers? alliance and guild wars what are you talking about?
Ok as the Bo sees it, on todays Siege there is far more non pvpers here than pvpers. So your theory of losing non pvpers doesnt hold much water. We lost all the pvpers because it was too hard for the pvpers to get the gear needed to pvp.
Uvtha is 100% correct in his thinking. You arent going to keep pvpers here if they have to farm gear everytime they die. They are pvpers not farmers. And dont tell the Bo there are people here sellin good gear, more like hording it.
As for your guild/alliance wars VvV system, what does that matter this shard is ruled by a 230+ guild with several other large alliances. Do you really think they are going to fight anyone?
This I would have no problem with at all.add in another vendor/box that would spawn you a random magical item like you find on monsters for silver points.
I personally thought, and I said so at the time, that faction arties were a bad idea. Spoiling people is not a good idea. I honestly don't blame people who got hooked on them, it's only natural. This is the problem with bleed over code. But letting pvpers gear up via silver points with reasonable loot would only be helpful. It would keep pvpers going and lessen the need to kill people who can't pvp for their loot.This I would have no problem with at all.
I just think PvPers have become to used to having farties and such and think that having anything less on when fighting isn´t gonna work.
We saw that a couple years ago when KoC/BFF/420/*insert guild name of the day* were still here. Someone lost their fartie suit and couldn´t get a buyback that night so they logged. They refused to equip barbed runic armor or whatever and continue fighting because "what was the point?". And that resulted in them going to prodo because they refused to wear anything less than faction arties and losing them too often here was too much of a hassle.
Now with the absence of VvV artifacts, good monster loot and minor artifacts will become the new high-end.
So now the ball is in the farmers hands.
If we wanna keep our biggest costumers happy, the PvPers, we better stock our vendors...
That would be okadd in another vendor/box that would spawn you a random magical item like you find on monsters for silver points.
That would all surely help, but I don't know that devs could be convinced to do it. :/All we need are better access to resources
Remove 3x prices so we get cheaper gems
Add 2x ressource drop on all Siege facets to give us more resources
Add the 1000 luck bonus to all Siege facets to give us better loot without being forced to use luck suit.
Allow recall again or make gating take zero magery to help the warriors get around.
changes vendor fee to cost very little both on normal vendors and stall vendors.
Then I believe we will see alot more vendors and it will be easier to find a new suit.
Which ones did you want Iki? I got my pardon already, so there isn't anything left that I am interested in.I did have a thought about VvV though... can non VvV people use the decos? Cause I want some of them
I don't think we should have recall or 0 magery gating. It might not be too bad though if they could allow the gate spell to be cast if the player had the required skill level in another magical skill(ninja, sw, bushido, etc...)Allow recall again or make gating take zero magery to help the warriors get around.
Banners, but I don't know which.I don't think we should have recall or 0 magery gating. It might not be too bad though if they could allow the gate spell to be cast if the player had the required skill level in another magical skill(ninja, sw, bushido, etc...)
Everything you just said in the above post translates to "Make Siege a Barneyland shard". Recall was NEVER allowed. Every single thing you asked for can be found on another shard. This leaves the only question "Why the hell are you on Siege?".All we need are better access to resources
Remove 3x prices so we get cheaper gems
Add 2x ressource drop on all Siege facets to give us more resources
Add the 1000 luck bonus to all Siege facets to give us better loot without being forced to use luck suit.
Allow recall again or make gating take zero magery to help the warriors get around.
changes vendor fee to cost very little both on normal vendors and stall vendors.
Then I believe we will see alot more vendors and it will be easier to find a new suit.
That would be ok
It all sounds like a blast!Sounds like Siege is having the same problems as when I left 2 years ago... sigh.
haha so Bo is a bully now? When has the Bo ever called boself a bully? Sounds like you are tryin to bully the Bo for the Bo having an opinion. And for someone that knows alot bout the bo, whats your siege characters name?Sadley VvV can Easily be offset by one player ESPECIALLY on siege in OFF times all it take is another char on an account in another guild and you can sit on the alters as I saw done 2 times the other day and get points for doing NOTHING, so farming VvV is just like farming silver.
AND NO THIS SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED, NEITHER SHOULD SILVER BE TRANSFERRED.
As Bo is so fond of being a bully and has no qualms about voicing it in general chat- sorry BO that you cannot get EASY uber items anymore for just killing someone :-( SO SORRY
I didnt see the recall bit. I am very against recall. That's one of the most important differences in siege imo, not being able to nearly 100% run away.Seems to me, we're throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Granted these ideas are all hypothetical. But its a slippery slope and we seem to be going down it head first. Wouldn't be wiser to look at changes that can be made to the brand new VvV system rather than stripping Siege's difficulty down to nothing but a prodo shard without insurance? I mean, we're talking about some arties here. And instead of just considering ways to accommodate PvP with them, we're tossing out christmas lists of things that have made Siege what it has been for years.
Anyways. Just seems like we're getting carried away here. I'd suggest reigning it in a bit and go back to basics on this discussion before we start giving away free recalls & cheap resources.
Just my $.02
I no longer have access to my accounts. I might have been tempted otherwise.Asty and Beezle, Return to Britannia started today if you guys wanna pop in and play a little.
You was not playing, when Factions Artifacts messed up the shard and did alot damage. You have no idea what you wish for, you just want it easyI'll take stockpiles over Insurance. Bring on the arites. Just don't bless them.
Were there changes to the faction equipment since 2006? I was here when there were issues with faction items being blessed.You was not playing, when Factions Artifacts messed up the shard and did alot damage. You have no idea what you wish for, you just want it easy