Because the devs asked us which colors were acceptable and removed the ones which were not. The colors that remain are dark, muted colors, except the white which, again, is something already existing on some animals and in dyes for other items. The devs ARE trying to maintain SOME level of artistic integrity for the game, and a few people here choose to take the opportunity to roleplay Chicken Little.
You not been to Ice island in the new client then, that sure as hell hurts my eyes its that bright.
I will agree this would be much better then the current way they have it set. Maybe they can do this instead.The recruitment of the questionnaire is still performed in Japan.
However, why will a result be already given?
I think in doubt.
Yes, I am against an idea of the Pet Dye.
I want to say to the development team, if you adopt this idea in defiance of dissenting opinion..
Please do more polite work.
For example, in this way.
This is the minimum compromise that I can agree.
If they want to maintain 'artistic integrity' then they should be doing the job properly instead of going down the total rehue option which just looks crap. I'm not against colours per se (some colour changes can be good), just against the total rehue they are using which just looks amateurish.
You not been to Ice island in the new client then, that sure as hell hurts my eyes its that bright.
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Exactly. It just looks like some ****** on a freeshard spent 5 minutes implementing it. The real game is supposed to have actual... you know... artists and stuff and be above silly-looking crap like that.
Now this would be awesome if they can do it for the colors they are
I like the dyes either way, but there is no question, for me at least, that these examples look much better. If it were possible, I would love to see them do that this way. But as Moon pointed out, I expect it would be a serious technical challenge with the 2D client.
Thing is it's not the fault the art department, they didn't have anything to do with it, it's some 2 minute hack job on the hue code. I'm sure the artists would love an opportunity to come up with something better.
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I think for that reason alone the survey should be tossed out. Something else should be used, like an in-game vote to ensure everyone is aware of the impending changes.
Interesting thought Gareth. Makes one think. Though I suspect if anyone wanted to stuff the NO! vote, this colored pets idea would have been dropped already.
Actually, given that there are (I believe) 2D monsters that rehue in specific spaces (hiryus, I believe), but if not, there ARE items that do rehue in specfic spaces (beds, chairs, dye tubs, et cetera), the work COULD be put into the 2D client to get it "right," but given that the 2D client is not a priority (nor should it be in 2009), it's probably not going to happen that way.
Given that white, itself, is no more a "color" than black, but instead, a presence of all colors -- while black is the absence of color entirely -- we could sit around and debate this all day long.
Actually, the assets were lost long before they made the move from Austin to CA... what was lost was not the pixel art, but rather, the original 3D models upon which the 2D renders of all of the original creatures were based (which is why the creatures on the Third Dawn client were all completely redone from the ground up as opposed to high-quality re-renders of the original artwork).
It's not a debate on sementics but on effects, despite what the trolls want. White hue in UO has the same effect than neon hues. You can babble about clouds and what's a color, it will still have the same effect ingame and that's what matters in the debate.
Err... wrong.
As I understand it, the entirety of the KR icon/item graphic set was farmed out to China.
Actually, JC is completely correct on this as far as anyone -- including yourself -- is aware. The 2D client does apply color to grayscale images... when it encounters something that is not a grayscale base, it converts it to grayscale to apply the color to it. Like anything else doing such a conversion, reds will translate different than yellows, et cetera.
Where are all those people who wanted this, I only see people who accept it now it's presented.
We all know how it applies. What you forgot is the fancy dress. Dye it all you want, the yellow stripe will stay. Hint! Hint!
You not been to Ice island in the new client then, that sure as hell hurts my eyes its that bright.
At the risk of going totally off track. I managed to sunburn my eyeballs earlier this year, working on a film for a friend. It was all filmed outdoors in the snow, and we spent a couple of days filming on a snow covered lake. Sunburning my eyeballs was a new experience for me...
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That's fine. I said fire whoever came up with the idea.
It would use the reserved palette method; a portion of the palette on "semi-dyed" objects (chairs with cushions, fancy dresses, scale armour, beds, etc) is in greyscale and is replaced by the dye hue, the rest of the item's palette is reserved (unchangeable) for the wood texture, or gilded trim in the case of the fancy dress. This is why a rare wood bed only rehues the sheets rather than the wooden part of the bed as you'd expect.
Yes, pet dyes are a great addition to UO... if done well. However the way they are implementing it is TERRIBLE. Have you even read this thread?
The polls are worthless ... some people have voted up to 10 times!
Correct me if I am wrong, but most of the ones who have talked about stacking the vote, have been against the pet dyes.
I don't think the closed beta results or the current polling method are accurate. If you look are everywhere this addition is being discussed the overwhelming response is negative. Look at the Facebook comments and they are almost all negative. Some people in this topic seem to be basing their support of this change on something that isn't happening (creating new creature models to make the dyes look better).
You have no idea how many people used multiple votes either for or against. The poll is worthless.
Very vocal people have mounted a very good campaign against this. Of course the reason you see the critics of this system and not those who support it is because those who support it don't feel like dealing with the taunts and trolls and flames of those don't like it. It's simple and all those silent voices have spoken in the polls where the decision was made to put them in. Same thing goes for here as it does with the facebook.
