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The Aftermath Fallout....Which Shards have free Keep and even Castle Spots now?

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Well its kinda interesting to know....after the big fall....this maybe helpfull to players on that shard too that maybe do not realize.....please add info...ill add shards as i look....heres a start...ALSO...maybe helpfull to players that just wanna place a castle for the thrill of it on a production shard....i WILL GLADLY SHOW people empty spots if they are interested too.........HAVE FUN!!!

OK First of...and most obvoius too...Anyone can now place at least a medium house [12x12 ] ...if not bigger on ''any shard'' including Atlantic...so just look around....there plenty of space on any shard..no need to pay for a small plot anymore ...ever!!!

***There is space for custom plots on ''every single shard''....a medium size plot [villa 11x11] can easily be found on the fullest of shards including atlantic...so nobody need ever pay for a small house again....just a little look around and u will be rewarded with a medium or bigger custom plot

onto Keeps and Castles.......quietest shards at top ...busiest at bottom.....

Quiet shards...
Origin.... Free keep spots both facets [many]... Free castle spots both [many] .. Free luna spot [odd]
Oceania... Free keep spots both [many]... Free castle spots both [many].. Free luna spot [odd]
Lake Austin ...Free keeps both tram and fel [many]..Free castles spots in Fel [few] and Tram [odd]
Drachs... Free keep spots both [many].... Free castle spots in felluca [few]..

Busier shards...
Legends .... Free keeps on both tram and fel [many]...
Siege... Free keep spots [few]..
Napa .... Free keeps on Both tram and felluca [few]..
Cats.... Free keep spots in felluca [few]...Odd keep spots in Tram?
Sonama...Free keep spots in felucca [few]..
Europa.... Free keep spots in felluca [few]....
Chessy....Free keep spots in felluca [few].....


Fuller shards.....
Lake Superior ....nothing free [odd felucca keep]
Pacs ...nothing free [odd felucca keep]
GL... nothing free
Atlantic .. nothing free

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Let me make one thing straight...iam a retired Legandary Idocer....i have not idoced for about 3 years or longer ...i was idocong back in the good old days pre the first big fall and there after....Anyways i only came back for the ''phase 1'' of RTB fall ....
I LET EVERYONE KNOW ON THIS BOARD THIS WAS HAPPENING SO EVERYONE COULD TAKE PART!!!!
was most happy to place and sell 2 awesome keeps and 2 awesome castles....and have loads of loot for my troubles including bags full of tokens/ clothing bless deeds, tokuna majors etc etc..and prob well over 2-3m turn in points....so iam very happy with my small haul....
WE COULD NOT STOP THE FALLERS...WE COULD HAVE LET THE LOOT DECAY...OR WE COULD SIMPLY PICK IT UP......
Also i managed to contact one old freind who reactivated there account to save there stuff for another 120 days at least...so hapy days there....
my 2 placing accounts I REOPENED costing 50m each for 30 days time now have 2 nice store houses on 2 shards...so they will be very usefull for the next 90 days indeed....AND PAID FOR!!!..this is UO

MY SEARCH AREA above is not the whole shard..its 4 areas that have the most castle/keep spots...using this its kinda safe to gauge the rest of the shard... but its not exact...hell i aint got time to trawl every shard fully..this said castles can only be placed certain places and us legandary idocers know these places....there the same on every shard.....so its pretty quick to search them.....hell on some shards...keeps sit on castle spots and sometimes 1 castle sits on 2 castle spots...LOL....crazy....but maybe someone prefers a keep to a castle..LOL

THIS IS JUST A BREIF INSIGHT to ALL our shards after the RTBs fallout....thanks for reading
 
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Well its kinda interesting to know....after the big fall....this maybe helpfull to players on that shard too that maybe do not realize.....please add info...ill add shards as i look....heres a start...ALSO...maybe helpfull to players that just wanna place a castle for the thrill of it on a production shard....i WILL GLADLY SHOW people empty spots if they are interested too.........HAVE FUN!!!

Origin.... Free keep spots both facets... Free castle spots both .. Free luna spot
Oceania... Free keep spots both... Free castle spots both.. Free luna spot
Drachs... Free keep spots both.... Free castle spots in felluca
Europa.. Free keep spots in felluca
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I would like to see a shard merge, you dont have to say we are closing the shards, you can say each character has the chance to transfer to X shard.
 

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I would like to see a shard merge, you dont have to say we are closing the shards, you can say each character has the chance to transfer to X shard.
I think of all the ideas....posisibly the best solution would be to give players on the quieter shards a chance of a whole account free transfer token....let them go if they want or if they wanna stay and are happy with a very quiet shard then so be it...at least they have had a option of a free transfer to a fuller shard...tis good idea for sure.
 
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Well its kinda interesting to know....after the big fall....this maybe helpfull to players on that shard too that maybe do not realize.....please add info...ill add shards as i look....heres a start...ALSO...maybe helpfull to players that just wanna place a castle for the thrill of it on a production shard....i WILL GLADLY SHOW people empty spots if they are interested too.........HAVE FUN!!!

Origin.... Free keep spots both facets... Free castle spots both .. Free luna spot
Oceania... Free keep spots both... Free castle spots both.. Free luna spot
Drachs... Free keep spots both.... Free castle spots in felluca
Europa.. Free keep spots in felluca
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Long before the big fall of '13 you often claimed Europa had trammel keep spots for those who looked, so ones free in fell isn't a big surprise.
 

King_Fisher

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Found an open fel Keep site on Napa not too long ago. Sad day it was. Luckily I found someone to fill the location A.S.A.P.
I tell myself if I ever walk the wilds of Napa and place a Castle I might be looking to move to a new shard. I pray the day never comes.
 

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I think of all the ideas....posisibly the best solution would be to give players on the quieter shards a chance of a whole account free transfer token....let them go if they want or if they wanna stay and are happy with a very quiet shard then so be it...at least they have had a option of a free transfer to a fuller shard...tis good idea for sure.
Not for EA. They'd loose out on the sale of transfer tokens, and still have to fund all the shards like they do now.
 

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Long before the big fall of '13 you often claimed Europa had trammel keep spots for those who looked, so ones free in fell isn't a big surprise.
Indeed there was....there was 2 free spots in trammel for ages.....theres plenty of felluca keeps...indeed guess peeps have looked harder of late to fill the trammel gaps...however a few peeps have put 1818s on some of the keep spots too..each to there own i guess...

more than happy to show anyone a free fel keep spot...just ask ingame...like ive always said....gen chat is best
 
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THP

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added Legends...Free keeps both tram and felluca......many!!....
 
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I would like to see a shard merge, you dont have to say we are closing the shards, you can say each character has the chance to transfer to X shard.
Are you going to give me 14 Char Slots on this new shard? Are you going to transfer all my homes to this new shard? Are you going to transfer all of our shard history to this new shard?

Answer NO, NO, NO TY UO closing all my accounts. Have a nice day.
 

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Found an open fel Keep site on Napa not too long ago. Sad day it was. Luckily I found someone to fill the location A.S.A.P.
I tell myself if I ever walk the wilds of Napa and place a Castle I might be looking to move to a new shard. I pray the day never comes.
Last time I looked I counted at least a dozen keep spots on Napa, both tram and fel side.
 

THP

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Are you going to give me 14 Char Slots on this new shard? Are you going to transfer all my homes to this new shard? Are you going to transfer all of our shard history to this new shard?

Answer NO, NO, NO TY UO closing all my accounts. Have a nice day.
Err the no shard is closing??? the quiet shard is stopping open..and theres no new shard....cant u read???....its just giving any player a chance to move free to a more populated shard if they wish...if they dont they can stay put
so yes yes yes and taa for the brill idea OP
 
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THP

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adding Napa taa for the info.........im guessing no castle spots
 

Lord Frodo

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I would like to see a shard merge, you dont have to say we are closing the shards, you can say each character has the chance to transfer to X shard.
Err the no shard is closing??? the quiet shard is stopping open..and theres no new shard....cant u read???....its just giving any player a chance to move free to a more populated shard if they wish...if they dont they can stay put
so yes yes yes and taa for the brill idea OP
How can you start with
I would like to see a shard merge
and say no shard is closing. Now that is just funny. His whole statement is one big oxymoron. You want to Transfer the go buy Transfer Tokens and have fun.
 

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How can you start with
and say no shard is closing. Now that is just funny. His whole statement is one big oxymoron. You want to Transfer the go buy Transfer Tokens and have fun.
read the post by lucitus ...i presume u can read ok

here u go........

I would like to see a shard merge............. you dont have to say we are closing the shards.......... you can say ..............each character has the chance to transfer to ..............XXXXXX shard.
 
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HAVE U GOT ANY BETER IDEA .......a better solution ???...frodo...because........... ill listen to anything that will save UO....shards with 50 playing is not good..if they like it fair enough.....it a simple option to let them try another fuller more shall we say lively shard - if they want to......nobodies gonna frog march ya to another shard.........[END[
 
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Close this thread, you ruin my Business!
I dont think there is a castle business on drachs..ine quick run and i found 4 spots empty...and noone wants to buy...thing there is no real estate market in felluca anyways....whats that myth about awesome pvp in felluca on drachs....BS
 

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recap..........
Well its kinda interesting to know....after the big fall....this maybe helpfull to players on that shard too that maybe do not realize.....please add info...ill add shards as i look....heres a start...ALSO...maybe helpfull to players that just wanna place a castle for the thrill of it on a production shard....i WILL GLADLY SHOW people empty spots if they are interested too.........HAVE FUN!!!

Origin.... Free keep spots both facets [many]... Free castle spots both [many] .. Free luna spot [odd]
Oceania... Free keep spots both [many]... Free castle spots both [many].. Free luna spot [odd]
Drachs... Free keep spots both [many].... Free castle spots in felluca [few]..
Legends .... Free keeps on both tram and fel [many]...
Napa .... Free keeps on both tram and felluca [few]..
Europa.... Free keep spots in felluca [few]....

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THP

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reliably informed and pretty obvoius really .. no free keeps/castles on Pacs/ GL and ATL......will add to OP
 

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whats that myth about awesome pvp in felluca on drachs....BS
Who did ever say anything like that? Never heard this before... Living on DF for a while...
 

Olahorand

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Did you test place on what you think is a free Luna spot on Origin? Some are looking that way, but seem to be too small to place something.
 

Prawn

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Were and still are keep spots in FEL on pacific (I have been giving away locales in gen chat as I find them) Found a tram Keep Spot on pacific last night between yew and brit
 

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Well its kinda interesting to know....after the big fall....this maybe helpfull to players on that shard too that maybe do not realize.....please add info...ill add shards as i look....heres a start...ALSO...maybe helpfull to players that just wanna place a castle for the thrill of it on a production shard....i WILL GLADLY SHOW people empty spots if they are interested too.........HAVE FUN!!!
:drama:
 

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Did you test place on what you think is a free Luna spot on Origin? Some are looking that way, but seem to be too small to place something.
serous u wanna place a luna small with only 50 active players.............awesome
 

Olahorand

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No I don't want, but - I want to ensure, that my placing abilities are more limited than I assume (btw. I have recently built a max storage in Luna on the shard as the lib fell, so no need for a smaller one, but would be interesting if there fits still a plot or if you only think that would.)
 

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Lake Austin has had open spots since BEFORE stuff started falling, as most of our PvPers left for another, more active, shard... Can't say that I miss their general chat drama, though a number of them were nice people when you were outside the confines of PvP.
 

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added Legends...Free keeps both tram and felluca......many!!....
Sadly enough, on Legends a week or so ago, we worked an idoc and then I stood around and placed a castle. The sad part? I was the only one trying for it =( Everyone else already has one I guess
 

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Sadly enough, on Legends a week or so ago, we worked an idoc and then I stood around and placed a castle. The sad part? I was the only one trying for it =( Everyone else already has one I guess
Or they just don't prefer castles (like in my case :D ), but it doesn't suprise me too much, as you well know we have a smaller tightknit and fairly active community here on legends. The pvp has been decent recently as well, so maybe we will continue to have people come over and take a few of these available spots.
 
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Origin.... Free keep spots both facets [many]... Free castle spots both [many] .. Free luna spot [odd]
Oceania... Free keep spots both [many]... Free castle spots both [many].. Free luna spot [odd]
Drachs... Free keep spots both [many].... Free castle spots in felluca [few]..
Legends .... Free keeps on both tram and fel [many]...
Napa .... Free keeps on both tram and felluca [few]..
Europa.... Free keep spots in felluca [few]....
Thanks for the update matey. I'm still looking on Europa...
 

Pfloyd

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Were and still are keep spots in FEL on pacific (I have been giving away locales in gen chat as I find them) Found a tram Keep Spot on pacific last night between yew and brit
I would be interested to know the coordinates that tram keep spot is or newly placed keep spot is. While Pacific has dropped quite a few malas houses the places where tram or fel keeps are don't last long usually. What people think are big enough spots for keeps i have found, really aren't due to obstructions. I am also reading general chat a lot and i have not seen anyone offer to show someone a keep spot to place even when people are asking to pay for a spot to place.
 

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I got my first keep last summer. Great location looking out over the water due north of Skara. I hated it. Unusable space, difficult to move from room to room. As DerekL pointed out, poorly laid out. I sold it after having it for a few months and returned to a max custom house. I feel the same about castles too.

It's really too bad the houses with the largest footprints contain so much unusable and/or inconvenient space.
 

THP

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I got my first keep last summer. Great location looking out over the water due north of Skara. I hated it. Unusable space, difficult to move from room to room. As DerekL pointed out, poorly laid out. I sold it after having it for a few months and returned to a max custom house. I feel the same about castles too.

It's really too bad the houses with the largest footprints contain so much unusable and/or inconvenient space.
Castles are a lot better u can use the courtyard inside...with a few floor tiles and bookcases/paintings ...on the walls it soon looks like one huge 31x31 bottom floor....looks amazing when u see one done to be fair!!!! ..but like u say.... some people prefer the art of building there own...just the storage a castle gives is totally amazing too...

For me owning a castle was my goal form day 1 nearly 14 years ago...im glad to have acheived this several times over....i personally hate custom building..but thats me..and iam not you
 
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Well, I always thought the same, but when I had three customized houses on my three accounts and I reached the storage max, it was time to get a castle... So, you can enjoy the aestethics of the customized houses AND have a castle - without contradicting yourself ;-)
 

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I am pretty sure this has been brought up before about customizing plots and castles which i am totally against BUT I wouldn't mind the same size castle plot be available with conditions on customization.

Like....

1) You can only place an 18x18 house on the plot but can be placed on any part of the plot.

2) The rest of the unused area can be used for decoration purposes but containers can be locked/secured down in the open area as well.

3) The plot still has max storage as a castle plot.

4) I am adding this because I can't stand the glacial blue tile so that should be restricted lol.

Be really cool I think for those players that have that house deco thing down. Just imagine areas with nice housing and a yard area and maybe garden, a few trees, a small pond area. Hopefully you see what I am trying to describe. We all have seen many players houses that has that "Better Homes" style and a customizable plot like that would really enhance that UOatmosphere but with a sense of style.
 
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Hello... a few word methinks...........

Let me make one thing straight...iam a retired Legandary Idocer....i have not idoced for about 3 years or longer ...i was idocong back in the good old days pre the first big fall and there after....Anyways i only came back for the ''phase 1'' of RTB fall ....
I LET EVERYONE KNOW ON THIS BOARD THIS WAS HAPPENING SO EVERYONE COULD TAKE PART!!!!
was most happy to place and sell 2 awesome keeps and 2 awesome castles....and have loads of loot for my troubles including bags full of tokens/ clothing bless deeds, tokuna majors etc etc..and prob well over 2-3m turn in points....so iam very happy with my small haul....
WE COULD NOT STOP THE FALLERS...WE COULD HAVE LET THE LOOT DECAY...OR WE COULD SIMPLY PICK IT UP......
Also i managed to contact one old freind who reactivated there account to save there stuff for another 120 days at least...so hapy days there....
my 2 placing accounts I REOPENED costing 50m each for 30 days time now have 2 nice store houses on 2 shards...so they will be very usefull for the next 90 days indeed....AND PAID FOR!!!..this is UO

MY SEARCH AREA above is not the whole shard..its 4 areas that have the most castle/keep spots...using this its kinda safe to gauge the rest of the shard... but its not exact...hell i aint got time to trawl every shard fully..this being said castles can only fit in certain places and us 'legandary idocers' know these places...hell there the same on every shard...so its pretty quick to search them..hell on some shards...keeps sit on castle spots and sometimes 1 castle sits on 2 castle spots...LOL...maybe some people like keeps instead of a castle ...like some people like 1818 instead of keeps...but why somone wants to take 2 castle spots with one is beyond even me...LOL

this is just a BRIEF INSIGHT to ALL our shards after the RTBs fallout....thanks for reading...thnaks to those that have contributed and not to those that abuse this very informative post........
 
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No free castle spot on Siege, they are replaced as fast as they drop, there may be a few few keep spot, but they don't stay free for long.
Spot around zento are replaced fast too, New Magincia have no free spots.
Malas have alot of free spots, so there are house plots for new SP players, just not many on the Felucca facet.
 

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Can you think of one aspect of the whole RTP going IDOC thing that does not deserve a thread of it's own?
Maybe you could start a blog or such, where you can repeatedly explain to everybody interested just how legendary and how ritered and how IDOCER you currently are?
 

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updated....



siege....Keeps a few spaces....No castle spots
 
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I would be interested to know the coordinates that tram keep spot is or newly placed keep spot is. While Pacific has dropped quite a few malas houses the places where tram or fel keeps are don't last long usually. What people think are big enough spots for keeps i have found, really aren't due to obstructions. I am also reading general chat a lot and i have not seen anyone offer to show someone a keep spot to place even when people are asking to pay for a spot to place.
I have never asked for a penny for the fel keep spots I have found so thats not me, found two open spots around the brit crossroads area and one by wind gated someone each time to the spots. The tram spot in questions was placed by me and is currently for sale on the house sign.
 

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I have never asked for a penny for the fel keep spots I have found so thats not me, found two open spots around the brit crossroads area and one by wind gated someone each time to the spots. The tram spot in questions was placed by me and is currently for sale on the house sign.
I have a friend wanting to buy a tram keep on pacific. Can't you just post the coordinates if you want to sell? So far 4 or 4 friends say there are no keep spots where you say on Pacific. So not trolling the thread.

Zero open Keep or Castle spots on Pacific unless you are talking Trinsic Swamp.
 

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Checked DF yesterday: Yes, some Keep spots on Felucca, but I can´t find any open castle spots anymore...
 

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Checked DF yesterday: Yes, some Keep spots on Felucca, but I can´t find any open castle spots anymore...
maybe this post thread have made the good people of drachs go out looking for the dream castle spots that were free...i saw at least 3 if not 4 on my short look around.......Hey tis good again they are ''maybe'' finally filled
 
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added LA....
Lake Austin ...Free keeps both trammel and felucca [many/many ]..Free castles spots in Fel [few] and in Tram too [odd ones]
 

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added Lake superior
LS ... Not finding much at all.....odd Felucca Keeps maybe......
 

Irulia Darkaith

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So...in all your shard hopping, which do you find is the deadest shard in terms of open housing spots (not just keeps and castles though the lack of them is probably a good guide).

As for my own shard, it was pretty easy to place a few keeps during IDOCs, but the spots definitely didn't stay open very long. Not too sure about Felucca as I stopped looking around, though there are a few places were a lone 7x7 classic home is blocking placement of a keep or castle.
 

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I would guess it's a toss up between Origin and Oceania, though Origin has been getting more players of late.
 

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Hello ive kinda started to group them in the OP....again a rough guide..like i say iam ony really checking 4 big areas in tram and felluca....and listening to chat etc about castles/keep prices or indeed if they are even selling at all......i simply would not have the time to doo all the land without my easy runabout runebooks....maybe in a coupe of months ill have the shard shields so i will hoping a bit more and can maybe do a much more detailed look.....quickly too.....
 
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