I ask you once again Guido...what is it that you want that I, and many others here, are not agreeing to?
I think it is important that a consensus is reached.
You don't want Trammel...right?
You don't want AoS...right?
So what "hate" is coming at your from 'this side'?
I think most people posting here have been very clear that those 2 things are key, and pretty much everything else is secondary.
You have sniped at me more than once in the last few pages...just put it out there...what is it that you want?
First and foremost, I want you to read, and understand, everything I am typing beyond this point. Fair enough?
I really shouldn't have to repeat just what it is that I would like to see as a server. It's out there, in black and white. So...
Aside from the server?
A little bit of polite goes a long way.
Calling people stupid, when having the wrong information themselves, is not a good way to make friends and influence people. Especially when they admit they haven't even loaded the game in 7+ years.
Calling people carebears and trammies is yet another good way to alienate people. Especially when they haven't even loaded an EA server in 8+ years.
Twisting words around, while intentionally failing to digest an entire post... I could go on and on.
And in your case, I am 99.999% sure it is intentional - you are either very intelligent, or a great actress, or a very poor troll... And I like to think myself wise enough to know the difference. It's why I have called you on it a few times, since I have discounted both the actress and the troll part. Sometimes a bit obtuse, but that's a trait all people with any passion possess.
You see, I am ambivalent about the whole Trammel/Felucca debate. I was, am, and always will be, a craft orientated person. It's part of the game, and has been since the beginning. I made my gold, and my reputation, on the products I made and the services I provided. The facet split did NOT harm either of those aspects of the game for me. I still continued to do my farming on the Fel side of things. It was quieter there, and the odd PK that did harass me often found it was a really bad idea to mess with a respected member of the community.
What destroyed the game for me, as it relates to MY style of play, was AoS, and the introduction of Luna. It wasn't that I couldn't create the items - that didn't change in the least. It was that, between the one stop shopping, in a SAFE zone, and the artifacts and rares that, ultimately, went to the best players (who just happened to be my best customers before AoS), there was no reason to continue my game style, and, ultimately, no reason to play or PAY anymore, either.
I came back because of what I had read about AoS, and complete and total burnout from 8+ years of EQ, and a lack of satisfaction with the other MMO's that were out there. The difference is, now I craft for myself, although I have made the offer to help out returning players with gear. Instead of spending the majority of my time doing craft related stuff, I find myself doing mostly PvM.
And don't get me wrong - I CAN PvP. What's happening in UO now is NOT PvP. People can delude themselves all they want about it, but it's not PvP. That's one of the few things I'm not actually worried about disappearing from the prodo shards... take away faction arties, the gimplate of the day, and all the other crap that AoS led to, and a lot of the current PvP crowd wouldn't fare all that well...
Bottom line - what I want, and what I'm sure a lot of very silent people would like, in regards to this topic, is just a touch more civility, tinctured with a bit of polite, and a bit of intelligence. Because I, for one, have no use for people that can't spell the words are, your, you're, etc. Language barriers can be understood. Dork speak doesn't fly.
What I want, more than anything, is a reason to believe that if this server comes to pass, it won't be populated by a bunch of jerks, griefers, idiots, and trash talking gankers with nothing better to do than harass people that like to fill a different niche of society than swinging blades at each other. Or that there is at least some type of recourse that can, and WILL, be actively enforced.
The ball's in your court, Morgana. Reluctantly or not, voluntary or not, you're the spokesperson for this server. It's as much up to you to lead by example as it is for Cal to push the EA bean counters, and as it would be for all those that don't pay, don't play, but feel they deserve a say, to put up or shut up. Because every cheap shot, no matter how minor it's meant to be, or how humorous someone may feel it is, is just more ammunition for the people that are totally against a classic server. Because it reminds them about all the bad things *classic times* represented. And that's regardless of if anyone wants to think they are valid or not. In everyone's mind, their own experience and memories are just as valid as the person sitting next to them, or on the other end of the net connection.
