It's in the publish AND patch notes. Again it's not the remedy that in debate. It's the lengths that this rule reaches. @Wenchkin just stated it perfectly!
VvV participants are orange to me in Fel cities, not just active cities. But I never felt like just testing my limits, although the char I use for Trade Quests is more than capable.I'm curious if visitors to cities are attackable and orange, can they attack and kill another innocent with impunity? I realise what happens if they join in with a VvV battle, I'm just curious if a non VvV player gets counts for killing another non VvV player in town while they're both orange. I'd probably struggle to kill a miner these days or I'd test it myself
Wenchy
from what i can gather you cant recall or gate into or out of the town while a VvV battle is going on.
In Fel all VvV players are orange to me now. I can't prove it but I'm sure I'm orange to them. It doesn't matter where I am in Fel, they are orange and attackable. In a non VvV town or outside of towns. In Fel orange permanent and in VvV. I never read anywhere that this was a way of joining. Has there ever been a way to flag grey and stay perma grey?
This is currently working as intended. You are unable to teleport into an active battle and if you enter by foot a gump is displayed that cannot be closed until leaving the battle area, or 30 seconds has passed. After 30 seconds you get flagged as a VvV participant, which results in flagging orange until killed by a VvV player, at which time the participate VvV flag is removed and stat loss is applied. The reason for this is because you can intentionally interfere without agressing/benefiting (which would normally make a blue, orange) anyone.
In short if you're in a town and the warning gump appears then the best thing to do is drop the trader quest and recall out because 30 seconds might not be enough time to leave on foot. Could we possibly get a little more warning time, say a minute or 2 so we could at least leave without have to drop the quest?
What kind of traders quests are you doing? Are you trying to go to Slim or the Trade Minister?
Thanks for responding..but flagging someone for just being there is an incredibly bad idea. Guilty until proven innocent, or in this case, until killed, is going to do way more harm than good.
Dear @Kyronix, thanks for clarifying. Please change your intentions. Thanks.
Bring some friends and slaughter everyone on sight.
its so buggy right now no one knows.
This is why I won't try either of the solutions I thought of doing earlier. Join and opt out, use another account and kill / stat loss potion. Just running through and having this happen is borked, period. Being close to the alter, fine. Really poor way to try to get people to actually go to fel
Rather than flagging innocent bystanders, you should either allow for some non-heal/non-combat interference or move the fights to a location which can only be accessed by VvV members. Or even make an underground area for each city which contains the fights, restricting that to VvV people only.
This is the same mistake that was made in dumping champ spawns around Fel dungeons and removing PvM spots and recall ability for ordinary PvMers. That should have been contained in a smaller area so our game wasn't disrupted. But here again a whole group of useful areas is now marked as PvP only. Although in a champ spawn I can give counts if someone kills me, and they can't attack me without flagging or the risk of a murder count.
They're in a position that they should know what they're talking about, or ask someone who does. After 12 years I've forgotten what my friend paged on, but this first-gen advisor was clueless (like if someone asking about spellweaving scroll drop rate was told they can be inscribed).
Thank Kyronix, that would be a huge help. Since you've been reading, will my tactic of making a guild, joining VvV and resigning work in 3 days after being perma orange? Tanx
Kyronix, thank you very much for your concern and your reply. On a Sunday. You should rest a little and not work 7 days a week by the way
Yes. After 3 days has passed, the participation flag will be removed as a result of quitting the guild.
Sweet, thank you very much. No harm no foul. Hope it worx for @Poo also!
Zuckuss want to play with Poo!
Would it work if you are on a trade quest?
