Why no Spellweaving on Jewelry?

[Jimmy Pop]

Title pretty much says it all. Other casting skills are available on jewelry, why not Spellweaving?

 

[Tazar]

Spellweaving is a little unique in that you have to do a quest to be able to start gaining skill points in the skill. Jewelry points seems like it might bypass that system.

 

[Jimmy Pop]

Interesting thought, but I don't think it should matter. Spellweaving would be a switch on the char, either on or off depending on quest completion.

So having 30 points in Spellweaving wouldn't mean you could cast spells without completing the quest first.

But, that might lead into the reason it's not available on jewelry... perhaps it has to do with what skills are available for a starting char? I'm not sure you can start with points in Spellweaving?

*OH and Stealth requires hiding before it can be used, yet Stealth is available on jewelry.

 

[icm420]

Spellweaving has never been on jewels.. I would love it if it was but it is just one of those things that doesn't show up. You don't see any +crafting/mule skills either.. not sure about imbue honestly and there is only mining gloves and a lumberjack axe. I've never seen +15 tailoring or +15 blacksmithy on a ring. Oh I suppose ancient hammers increase smithy..

But I think it has to do with the system of the spells. You can cast several spells at 0 skill level, a couple at 10, etc. It's meant to be a hard magic group, you can't craft the scrolls you have to get them from monsters, you have to do a quest to cast/train, and you need a focus to make it worth a damn. The trade off I suppose is that you don't need any "synergy" skill, it's a standalone skill.

 

[Theo_GL]

Spellweaving has never been on jewels.. I would love it if it was but it is just one of those things that doesn't show up. You don't see any +crafting/mule skills either.. not sure about imbue honestly and there is only mining gloves and a lumberjack axe. I've never seen +15 tailoring or +15 blacksmithy on a ring. Oh I suppose ancient hammers increase smithy..

But I think it has to do with the system of the spells. You can cast several spells at 0 skill level, a couple at 10, etc. It's meant to be a hard magic group, you can't craft the scrolls you have to get them from monsters, you have to do a quest to cast/train, and you need a focus to make it worth a damn. The trade off I suppose is that you don't need any "synergy" skill, it's a standalone skill.

I don't think it was a concerted effort to make it different as much as it was laziness to 'hack in' spellweaving. Done correctly it shoudl function more like Mysticism, Necro, Chivalry etc. But SW was crammed in and doesn't conform like the other 'spell like' disciplines.

I don't see why Myst would not be on jewels. I understand about crafting skills - but then, your + smith and tailor can be had with talismans.

 

[Larisa]

Mysticism is on jewelery..I have no clue what it is or what it does....but I found a really nifty Mysticism +7 fc1/fcr3 bracelet on a brigand.

I need to do my research, but I DO know that back when I was still playing 4 years ago, the no spellweaving on jewelery subject came up several times. I'd have to agree with the people that say since it requires SO much to get and can't really be trained with gold, it wouldn't appear on Jewelery.

 

[yars]

spellweaving does have the advantage of not needing regeants

 

[Kim Li of LS]

It might relate to the need to be within 20 points of fellow casters to circle.

 

[popps]

Title pretty much says it all. Other casting skills are available on jewelry, why not Spellweaving?

I thank the wisdom of the Developers for not having Spellweaving as well as other skills on items. This game already allows for way, but way overpowered templated thanking to skill items and we really, IMHO, do not need for more............

They should actually make it so that many bonuses, like special moves, for example, only work when real skill above a certain level is used, not through skill items.....

Up with real skill and down with skill items !!

 

[aarons6]

I thank the wisdom of the Developers for not having Spellweaving as well as other skills on items. This game already allows for way, but way overpowered templated thanking to skill items and we really, IMHO, do not need for more............

They should actually make it so that many bonuses, like special moves, for example, only work when real skill above a certain level is used, not through skill items.....

Up with real skill and down with skill items !!

popps is right..
right now as it is with 0 skill and a level 6 focus spellweaving is way over powered in pvp.

Attunement alone should be bumped up so you cant cast it with joat.

 

[unified]

popps is right..
right now as it is with 0 skill and a level 6 focus spellweaving is way over powered in pvp.

Attunement alone should be bumped up so you cant cast it with joat.

I disagree. The duration time of its spells are too short, and the cooldown timers are too long, for this skill to be worthwhile. The quests, the search for its scrolls, and the need for other spellweavers makes this one of the worst skills in the game. Any advantages that someone might be able to pull off in PvP with this skill is negligible compared to other tactics that can be used.

I do agree, however, that real skill really should be looked at for special moves, etc, but that is not the purpose of this thread.

 

[virtualhabitat]

I want herding on jewelry and a lumberjacking power scroll

P.S.
A herding Talisman would be nice too while we're at it.

 

[Barok]

I want half aprons that spawn with random +tailoring/+tinkering/+carpentry/+fletching/etc.

 

[longshanks]

I disagree. The duration time of its spells are too short, and the cooldown timers are too long, for this skill to be worthwhile. The quests, the search for its scrolls, and the need for other spellweavers makes this one of the worst skills in the game. Any advantages that someone might be able to pull off in PvP with this skill is negligible compared to other tactics that can be used.

I do agree, however, that real skill really should be looked at for special moves, etc, but that is not the purpose of this thread.

did u ever see a bunch of level 6 weavers hold the island in despise?

or push a choke at a harry, all while having a 6 focus and attunement and gift of renewal in effect??

clearly this skill has a viable purpose in pvp. your ingnorance to it lies in the fact that its use in pvp is a tactical one, i.e, knowing when to employ it to get the most benefit.

 

[icm420]

I want a I WIN UO robe with 70 to all resist, 100 lrc, 20 mr, 40 lmc,70dci,70hci and 1000 hit point buff...

 

[Barok]

I want a I WIN UO robe with 70 to all resist, 100 lrc, 20 mr, 40 lmc,70dci,70hci and 1000 hit point buff...

And +100 to all skills?

 

[Cetric]

Spellweaving is a great skill for big group pvp. Period.



But to the OP - it is probably because it would allow say someone with 70 weaving, to jewel up to GM, to get a circle with someone at 120.

 

[unified]

did u ever see a bunch of level 6 weavers hold the island in despise?

or push a choke at a harry, all while having a 6 focus and attunement and gift of renewal in effect??

clearly this skill has a viable purpose in pvp. your ingnorance to it lies in the fact that its use in pvp is a tactical one, i.e, knowing when to employ it to get the most benefit.

No, and there is no need to insult me for it. I thought the poster was speaking of a single player with the skill, not a group of spellweavers. I think that is very interesting, indeed.

 

[J.B.]

But to the OP - it is probably because it would allow say someone with 70 weaving, to jewel up to GM, to get a circle with someone at 120.

This exactly

 

[virtualhabitat]

I want a I WIN UO robe with 70 to all resist, 100 lrc, 20 mr, 40 lmc,70dci,70hci and 1000 hit point buff...

This

$14.99 at the UO code store.