Why I live in Fel, and why a classic shard is pointless

[dum3886]

Obviously u have not played very efficiently... u just have to be imaginative when it comes to making money or making suits etc... when i used to play (3rd time round retsarting)... i'd just go gauntlet for maybe half an hr a day and get millions in items... and yes i would tweek my template so i speed up the process of the gauntlet.. even if it is by only 5-10 seconds... that is what is called being efficient... u playing like a snail is not. I went peerless about 4 times in my 2 yrs of playing.. im sure uve been more than that... and yes peerlesses are a waste of time unless u somehow solo them (which again takes ages).

As for reading between the lines... actually for a medium like this.. a forum, no we shouldnt have to read between the lines. We arn't a bunch of tourists going to an art museum Mr Picasso. A circle could be seen as a circle... but it could also be seen as a 2 dimensional image of a third dimensional sphere... same thing.. your message can be mis-interpreted even when people are reading your post logically.

And your argument regarding time v reward issue... the old playing style would be more to your style. All you needed was 25k and u r off.. u have a full gm leather suit... u have a gm katana/halberd watever ur choice.. and thats it... u r on equal grounds with everyone else.


ALso.. i also did state i was actually for a trammel/fel classic shard Pre-pub16.

1 last thing.. if you think a classic shard is pointless then u R against it. If something thinks going to university is a waste of time it means they are against going to university... why? bcz they think its POINTLESS.

 

[Thav12]

Dumb: it didn't work for the majority the first time around. Why would it now? As to your inferences about how I play: it is the time prove I am leet vs you are a noon kind of argument that leads to nothing. You don't know me.

Moreover, your hyperbolic suggestions of making milions in 30 minutes in doom are laughable. I think if this were an in game sort of debate, and it is unfortunately starting to resemble one, I should probably start talking traSh about one of your parents, call you to fel and leave things sort of resolved by an ultimately turn based semi real time action fight by two avatars wearing dresses.

Good luck with your continued misunderstanding of intent and the written word.

 

[Cetric]

if someone could find an acceptable way to merge lower population servers with high population ones, and cut down on the number of shard choices, i would fully agree to a classic shard.

 

[five oclock]

same here, I'm paying for my three accounts but I don't play really. only time I do is to buy items, then resell them. in the last seven years I've only killed mongbats are moongates.

Same here. but, I've killed a Great Heart!

Was it a paragon tho?


Btw stop the insanity! Thanks..

As for the clasic shard...Plz ooo plz BRING it back..so finally people will SHUT up about it. They will either Luv it or hate it. but I do have to admit that these posts are very very hrm..whats the word..Humorous....

 

[Tanivar]

Children!

Act like adults before a Moderator locks this thread.

Dang, the Trolls are out in force.

This is side thread, but sheesh. Lets try and act our ages before a Moderator has to play Nanny and make us behave.

 

[Derium of ls]

p.s. Hell no it was not a paragon!

 

[dum3886]

By gauntlet i am refering to sanctuary box quests. I have done Doom once and it is also just as useless as peerless.

And it didn't work the first time... well pre-pub 16 did work... nothing was wrong with there being a trammel.. yes there were problems with fel only thus why i personally don't agree with a fel only shard but a pre-pub 16 trammel/fel shard i think is a perfect classic shard in other wards around T2A area.. maybe 2000.

And isn't the population of the game proof enough that the game atm isn't working either? Please visit my old shard Oceania... 2007 population was prolly 50% large as in.. 100% larger than it is now... Pre-2003 was probably about 10-20x larger... now it is a ghost town and is a waste of resources... Oceania should be dead but bcz 5 ppl live on it they can't close it without causing panic to other shards as people will question... if Oceania died.. os my shard next?

 

[Uvtha]

Okay...so I post something that differs from your desires, so I should be silenced?

Very nice ... rolleyes:

+

I think if threads in support of a Classic Shard should be locked, so should threads like this one.

Just sayin...

 

[phantus]

randomness of UO is just an excuse for lazy development cycles.

yea


OP
- You have an interesting take on the tram to fel migration. I can understand your point but don't think you are the target of a potential classic era shard.

I wouldn't play a classic shard as I would find it a bore after playing today's UO. The thing is there are a great deal of people currently playing and those that aren't playing that would start on a classic shard. I'd say there might be enough for 2 initially. The problem is the staying power. This is the questionable part. It has nothing to do with safety or stat loss rules or whatever today reason for keeping the thread on the first page. It's about the staying power of the experience. There are gonna be die hards that will stick with it to the end but there will be a great many who will play for a month or two and just won't get the old connection back.

I don't think a classic shard is pointless but it's not going to eclipse the current shard like some deliriously believe. I have long felt there would be enough players drawn to it to maintain it. It would however mean the death of Siege I'm afraid.

 

[Lefty]

Yes, a double post. I posted this in the new Fel Forum also

I admit, I was a total Trammi one day. I have played for more than a decade with a hiatus here and there, so anyone screaming at me that I don't know the game the way it used to be is a fool and a half. Although I totally enjoyed the thrill of the game back then, it also was ultimately prohibitive for total enjoyment of the game for which I was paying money to play. I have never been able to be a power gamer, due to the acceptance in my life that the real part is more important than the fictive game part. As a result, my character development in game has not been as expedious as some of the other people on the shard that I play. While I was whacking bunnies, or grinding away at a mountain side to get some ingots, to gain some skill or to make some gold, I died. Not from the occasional orc, but by the hands of my fellow shardians who then next danced on my corpse and called me noob, rezzed me, and repeated that a few times. My capital gain for that day would be zero, with a free dose of frustration mixed with a condition requiring beta blockade. It was not that the person killing me was smarter, tactically more advanced or anything else, I was just not as 7331 as they were. Then came trammel, and trammel is why I ended up playing this game for a decade.

I will not lie. I always dreamed of exacting revenge and being part of the PvP community. I used excuses such as "speed hackers", "scripters" and such freely. Now that nobody uses numbers for letters anymore, and only truly dedicated old farts play uo, i have finally been able to collect gear, scrolls and finish my templates to be able to enjoy the game to its fullest. Judging from my fellow guild members, there are so many people like me still out there... and although I am sure there are nice scripts out there, it really does not matter all that much, despite my crying wolf before...

And guess what? I now have both my houses in Fel. Love the additional free spirit that comes with living in Fel. I spar with my friends who now also moved their houses to Fel. We go out to champ spawns and get our asses handed to us by well oiled PvP guilds. However, the thrill is back. And, i racked up my own first few murder counts.

My point is this though: it took me 10 years to get here, 7 if you go by my account age. I still play with the characters I made back in 1999. I would not have done that without Trammel. Yet, I always hoped to be a tough Fel player able to stand my ground. I have grown with this game, and now I find myself right there: in Fel.

Call me slow, or stupid, or ineffective or any other internet savvy slang you can throw at me. I am though, I think, very representative of the population that is still out there playing this game. I am not a godzillionaire, I have some nice stuff now after all these years. I enjoy repetitive clicking on troglyodytes and demons just as much as anyone out there. But now, finally, i can get back at those power gaming reds that destroyed my bunny whacking, wood chopping ass that had no chance at making it 10 years ago.

Nostalgia is what it is, nostalgia. And most people screaming for classic rule set shards are just nostalgic. I still am adding new nostalgic memories as often as I can, in the new lands of Felluca. Glad to be there now.

I wanted this posted in the Felluca forum as one of the new threads, because I want to make sure that people know that this game is awesome, and that Fel is the reason why. Not because it "is" Fel, but because Fel adds such a vast aspect to this game in terms of providing a goal in UO life to so manny trammel dwellers out there. Just like I once was. Glad to hear your opinions on this matter.

Well all you did is discover another aspect of the game. In the past I have taken members of trammel guilds and turned them into blood thirsty PvPers.

This works vice versa also, but let me say this the fel ruleset as it is now cannot replace the classical era. You could say it was an entirely different game all together.

What communities we have in game today is nothing but a shadow of once was. Every town was filled with its own population. You had to push through crowds to get to the bank. GM smiths repaired blades and armor expecting nothing but a tip. Mages in front of the banks offered gates to other towns for 200 gold pieces. Assassins could be hired to kill another player, while thieve guilds worked the streets. Fights between Order and Chaos soldiers would be seen daily in the streets of Britain, while new players delved in the sewers for their first taste of the hunt. Mercenaries would be hired by guilds to protect them while in the dungeons from pk's. I can go on and on. Nothing now can match that, nothing.

 

[Thav12]

thanks for the thoughtful post. In a way you are saying something similar to what I was trying to get across. The game developed more because of adding experiences to the player (hungry for every new addition, in hopes of something to change their current experience regardless of varying reasons for wanting the publish) than to fix bugs or improve the game.

I suspect you are dead on with your analysis of the fate of a new classic shard. I am findin new aspects of the game every time I play. I admitted that that was because I don't play as much as some others, but still. Nothing prevents a pvp er, bored with uo life to change it up and do something like joining another guild and twink them as they go to fel spawns.

I think that longing for the past is a sign of getting older.

yea


OP
- You have an interesting take on the tram to fel migration. I can understand your point but don't think you are the target of a potential classic era shard.

I wouldn't play a classic shard as I would find it a bore after playing today's UO. The thing is there are a great deal of people currently playing and those that aren't playing that would start on a classic shard. I'd say there might be enough for 2 initially. The problem is the staying power. This is the questionable part. It has nothing to do with safety or stat loss rules or whatever today reason for keeping the thread on the first page. It's about the staying power of the experience. There are gonna be die hards that will stick with it to the end but there will be a great many who will play for a month or two and just won't get the old connection back.

I don't think a classic shard is pointless but it's not going to eclipse the current shard like some deliriously believe. I have long felt there would be enough players drawn to it to maintain it. It would however mean the death of Siege I'm afraid.

 

[tenduil]

I think if threads in support of a Classic Shard should be locked, so should threads like this one.

+1 Why can multiple threads bashing another thread be created, have lots of posts and not be locked?

 

[Thav12]

+1 Why can multiple threads bashing another thread be created, have lots of posts and not be locked?

Nothing being bashed in this thread. That is probably why. Speculating in this thread about the reasons why uo evolved the way it has, and whether a new classic shard will evolve differently or that it will be rehashing the old, but without the same player volume as before changing the dynamics of such a shard potentially.

Bashing has only been mentioned in this thread in relation to bunnies, a way most of us started this game a decade ago.

If you don't have anything to contribute just don't post.

 

[shulginist]

but I invested about 50-60 hours a week in WoW to get high warlord, after 11 weeks I had the best PvP gear in the game, and death in battlegrounds no longer happened

Ya that grind was rough.

/Salute from High Warlord Biohazard