Why does my Ethy Mount get fatigued, and how do I refresh it?

[Old Man of UO]

Alright, it's getting tiresome having to stop, dismount and remount from my ethy. I mean, it's a ghost horse, right? I can't feed it, so how do I refresh its stamina?

 

[CrazyLemons]

Always been this way. They get refreshed the more you don't ride them get a second ethy and swap them out. Thats how its been dealt with for years.

 

[Old Man of UO]

Always been this way. They get refreshed the more you don't ride them get a second ethy and swap them out. Thats how its been dealt with for years.

I have no interest in buying a second mount, but thanks for that tip.

Any idea how long you have to stay dismounted to fully refresh the mount, and how long you can ride before the mount is fatigued again?

Thanks

 

[CrazyLemons]

No, sorry i do not.

 

[Elric_Soban]

Your ethy mount gets fatigued because normal mounts get fatigued and to allow you to run forever would be an imbalance.

You regen it's stamina by standing still. I've heard(never tested myself) that if you hop off an ethy thats fatigued, and hop on a new one, it'l still be fatigued. tied to your CHAR and not the ethy.

That's NOT confirmed. That'l need to be verified.

 

[CrazyLemons]

That is not the case. If you change ethys, the fatigue does not carry over.

 

[RawHeadRex]

ethy's get fatigued ?

... i've never seen my ethy's get fatigued, ever.

how long does one have to run in order to see fatigue on an ethy ?

 

[Goldberg-Chessy]

Always been this way. They get refreshed the more you don't ride them get a second ethy and swap them out. Thats how its been dealt with for years.

I have no interest in buying a second mount, but thanks for that tip.

Any idea how long you have to stay dismounted to fully refresh the mount, and how long you can ride before the mount is fatigued again?

Thanks

If you have no interest in buying another I guess then that the fatigue is not an issue for you so problem solved.

As has already been explained I believe they were originally meant to get fatigued in an effort to 'balance' them as compared to a regular mount.
Kinda always made sense to me.
When they were introduced I dont think they were meant to be any more powerful then a regular mount. Just more convienant. Not sure tho.

 

[BluDjinn]

I also have never seen a message about my etheys getting fatigued, ever!

Just to test this I just now went to Trinisc ( long straight streets ).

Then I overloaded myself with gold just under where it effects my
stamina when I move. 485 / 481 max.

Then My Ethereal Ostard and I spent the next 15 min. racing around town, running down every npc we could find.

No message...No problems.
Now this was on Atlantic/ Tram.

Do you play on Siege Perilous? Things might be different there.

 

[Guardian KX]

Not on Siege anymore as far as I can tell.

Happened to me like maybe 5 or 6 years ago but not since then. And I too have ran my ethy lamma from one side of the world to the other, with high speed cable non stop running. Same goes for any real mount besides a overloaded beetle...

 

[Guardian KX]

Wanted to add that awhile ago someone mentioned that if you have crappy connection or dial-up type modem that somehow theres a rubberbanding effect that happens that causes your mount to be easily fatigued. Something to do with your mount being rapid fired back and forth between spaces and rubberbanding while moving... something like that...

 

[Old Man of UO]

If you have no interest in buying another I guess then that the fatigue is not an issue for you so problem solved. ...

You know, try not to be so anti-social (a.k.a. idiot) most of the time- keep your attitude to yourself, if you please. I posted the question to understand the mechanics of this, and then work out a solution that works best for me. Spending 2 million gold on another ethy isn't worth the cost to me, but fatigue is still a problem. A better solution for me is to get a swampy and use the ethy as a backup.

I also have never seen a message about my etheys getting fatigued, ever!

Just to test this I just now went to Trinisc ( long straight streets ).

Then I overloaded myself with gold just under where it effects my
stamina when I move. 485 / 481 max.

Then My Ethereal Ostard and I spent the next 15 min. racing around town, running down every npc we could find.

No message...No problems.
Now this was on Atlantic/ Tram.

Do you play on Siege Perilous? Things might be different there.

It's not Siege... and I have two characters who have this issue.

I have it happen a lot on my dungeon thief who almost never stands still, and runs from dungeon arti to dungeon arti. A complete dungeon run is roughly 15-20 minutes of mostly running, stopping for 5 seconds here and there to make a steal. It takes a while for the mount to get fatigued, but once it starts the run is pretty much over until the mount gets refreshed. A swampy should take care of this problem because I can feed it when I need to, or maybe just stand around for 5 or 10 minutes before logging off.

The other character (my tamer on a cu sidhe) got the message when fighting a group of the wandering outcast gargoyles in the Abyss. One of them cast some curse or sleep spell that slowed my mount, and I got the message that my mount was fatigued. The spell lasted maybe 5 minutes, long after the gargoyle was dead and looted. I had to leave the dungeon because my cu sidhe was extremely slow and couldn't attack.

I'm not even sure if or how weight works into mount fatigue, but I am not usually even close to max weight when it happens.

Thanks for the information.

 

[Der Rock]

Alright, it's getting tiresome having to stop, dismount and remount from my ethy. I mean, it's a ghost horse, right? I can't feed it, so how do I refresh its stamina?

maybe:

the character has negative or 0 staminareg.
(necro spell or somethingelse)

use a +2 stamina reg. item and see if he still run out of stamina

 

[Tina Small]

I have some hazy recollection of being told by Jeremy or someone else a few years back that a possible way to refresh your ethy was to keep it in your bankbox overnight.

Perhaps give that a try?

 

[Tina Small]

Haven't pinned down the solution yet, and I think there is one, but did find some old discussions on the issue:

An old FoF from January 26, 2007:

ORIGIN - Ultima Online - Main

An old UO Forums post that refers to an old UHall post that I haven't found yet:

Ethy Mounts Stamina [ contains test results ] - Ultima Online Forums

 

[Goldberg-Chessy]

If you have no interest in buying another I guess then that the fatigue is not an issue for you so problem solved. ...

You know, try not to be so anti-social (a.k.a. idiot) most of the time- keep your attitude to yourself, if you please. I posted the question to understand the mechanics of this, and then work out a solution that works best for me. Spending 2 million gold on another ethy isn't worth the cost to me, but fatigue is still a problem. A better solution for me is to get a swampy and use the ethy as a backup.

I also have never seen a message about my etheys getting fatigued, ever!

Just to test this I just now went to Trinisc ( long straight streets ).

Then I overloaded myself with gold just under where it effects my
stamina when I move. 485 / 481 max.

Then My Ethereal Ostard and I spent the next 15 min. racing around town, running down every npc we could find.

No message...No problems.
Now this was on Atlantic/ Tram.

Do you play on Siege Perilous? Things might be different there.

It's not Siege... and I have two characters who have this issue.

I have it happen a lot on my dungeon thief who almost never stands still, and runs from dungeon arti to dungeon arti. A complete dungeon run is roughly 15-20 minutes of mostly running, stopping for 5 seconds here and there to make a steal. It takes a while for the mount to get fatigued, but once it starts the run is pretty much over until the mount gets refreshed. A swampy should take care of this problem because I can feed it when I need to, or maybe just stand around for 5 or 10 minutes before logging off.

The other character (my tamer on a cu sidhe) got the message when fighting a group of the wandering outcast gargoyles in the Abyss. One of them cast some curse or sleep spell that slowed my mount, and I got the message that my mount was fatigued. The spell lasted maybe 5 minutes, long after the gargoyle was dead and looted. I had to leave the dungeon because my cu sidhe was extremely slow and couldn't attack.

I'm not even sure if or how weight works into mount fatigue, but I am not usually even close to max weight when it happens.

Thanks for the information.

I am the idiot?

You are a self proclaimed "Old Man of UO" and you don't understand ethy mount fatigue? -

"Alright, it's getting tiresome having to stop, dismount and remount from my ethy. I mean, it's a ghost horse, right? I can't feed it, so how do I refresh its stamina?"

You posted the above to do what? - "understand the mechanics of this" ??

I am no English major but I think that if I was to post the same I would simply post something like this:
I do not understand the mechanics of ethy mounts. Can someone please explain?

But you preferred to try and rationalize/rant why you can't feed a ghost horse? Wow.

All that nonsense aside you then chose to shoot down/ignore the solution that was immediately given to you. Buy another Ethy! A very good solution btw.
Not perfect as I have heard in the past that the fatigue can follow the character but still a very good possible solution.

You appear to be a Uo vet (that runs alot though)
I doubt the 2 mill on another Ethy means anything to you.
I think you just want to rant about Ethy fatigue.
Sounds good to me

 

[Tina Small]

Maybe one of the Stratics admins can find an old UHall thread from approximately February 11, 2007 on Ethy Mount Stamina and provide a working link to it. I've tried digging through the UHall archives but it doesn't appear to be included there.

 

[Kayne.]

my chars generally only ride ethys (even in factions)

I used to see that message a lot (Dial up)

Have not seen it since then, and I have one ethy per character.

 

[Old Man of UO]

maybe:

the character has negative or 0 staminareg.
(necro spell or somethingelse)

use a +2 stamina reg. item and see if he still run out of stamina

That's a good idea to try. I do have a +3 stamina regen item on already, but I can more or less to see if that makes a difference.

I have some hazy recollection of being told by Jeremy or someone else a few years back that a possible way to refresh your ethy was to keep it in your bankbox overnight.
...

Haven't pinned down the solution yet, and I think there is one, but did find some old discussions on the issue:...

Thanks Tina - I'll try the bank box idea, and search the forums a bit more. Stratics search is very picky about how you phrase a search. I didn't find a conversation on it from before, so wasn't sure if this had been discussed.

 

[SisterFrances[EcZ]]

Old Man...

Not sure if this helps, but I have noticed that sometimes my Ethy's do get fatigued or at least show Stamina loss WHEN they have been colored by the retouching tool - but not when they have not been (when they look normally transparent they do not lose stamina). So I keep most of my ethy's un-retouched out of habit now.

If you have not retouched yours, then disregard! *smiles*

Sister Frances
Baja

 

[Old Man of UO]

... If you have not retouched yours, then disregard! *smiles*

Sister Frances
Baja

Heh... thanks for that info Sister Frances. I wouldn't be surprised if this were true, but I haven't touched any of my ethys.

 

[Lord X]

I can't recall when, but there was a change to this. Ethy's (and perhaps real mounts) used to run out of stamina much quicker then they do now. I remember a time, maybe 5 years ago where I would have two Ethy's on each char I PvPed with just to combat it. I do believe you had to recharge them later tho (as mentioned in that old post).

Either way, I am sure when it was changed there was a mention of it in a pub notes or something. No idea where to look tho. Currently, I have a ethy that runs outta stamina maybe every 5 months or so.

 

[red sky]

Your ethy mount gets fatigued because normal mounts get fatigued and to allow you to run forever would be an imbalance.

You regen it's stamina by standing still. I've heard(never tested myself) that if you hop off an ethy thats fatigued, and hop on a new one, it'l still be fatigued. tied to your CHAR and not the ethy.

That's NOT confirmed. That'l need to be verified.

Lol, balanced. It doesn't exist.

 

[Merion]

When I steal all sigils from the minax base and bring them to the TB base - this means roughly 7x the distance Trinsic-Britain - my ethy beetle often gets fatigued on the last run.

Depends a bit if I take the shortest route or have to dodge some enemy factioneers.

 

[Aboo]

I have experienced the same problem, but I think it was a few years back. It was truly annoying and I didn't even have to run very far! I haven't experienced it much lately so I just assumed they finally got it taken care of.

Hope you find a work-a-round to your situation that suits you. As you stated, it is very tiresome! Good luck!