-
Hail Guest! We're looking for Community Content Contribuitors to Stratics. If you would like to write articles, fan fiction, do guild or shard event recaps, it's simple. Find out how in this thread: Community Contributions
-
Greetings Guest, Having Login Issues? Check this thread!
-
Hail Guest!, Please take a moment to read this post reminding you all of the importance of Account Security.
-
Hail Guest! Please read the new announcement concerning the upcoming addition to Stratics. You can find the announcement Here!
Why do I fight 4v1+ a dragon? :(
- Thread starter Speedy Orkit
- Start date
- Watchers 2
S
Sweeney
Guest
He must be the tiny ball hiding behind the big ones.. the marble.
Gu'jek, SUPPERMAN, some Archer mage, and the guy that placed the tower...Omah something.
Logic got the better of me last night. Logging into vent with three people on and finding the TB group of 8+ beetle and then running by the 6+ TNT group, I decided my best strategy was to live to fight another day.
The correct response is to call the TB "*****monger lazeabouts that couldn't satisfy a woman even if they won the lottery and got hit by a bus", then you run to the TNT and tell them your new alliance following behind you is sooo gonna kick their asses.
You then invis and drink juice.
You then invis and drink juice.
What's a *****monger?
ego...kills only the best pvpers!!
and that is the truth!
not a dig...
and that is the truth!
not a dig...
S
Sunchicken
Guest
Some people may call it ego i call it not being a vagina...
One who mongers *****s obviously. =]
No the vagina part is coming here and posting that you died...
Ego is when you think and in most cases are good enought to fight against a group and still get a kill.
The problem is that for every time you get the kill you also die.
This should not matter to you as you are not Kage or Sakie or even Speedy for that matter...
I really find it funny that you come here and post about being brave, easy to do now that Kage and Sakie are back, nice timing...
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
*chuckling* I really think you're underestimating Sunchicken, Mook, but then again I don't even know who your char is which probably means there's not much to you at all. *shrugs*
Well first of all, if you ever actually pvped you would know who I am!
I think I know Sunchicken well, he is an excellent mage and one of the top!
I just dont think he does as well in the field as the rest of the mages I listed.
Regarding you and I, it will never happen due to the fact that your a blank blank who only PKS newbies!
S
Sunchicken
Guest
You sir are 100% correct.
I am not as effective as sakie, kage, and speedy on the field.
Ill admit it. This is true because i run a mage with no scribe no necro and my spell damage is crap.
My template is a group template healer/spell sync.
I dont get enough damage output to kill effectivly because no one wants to fight and die even in a 1vs1.
My fights normally go like this.
Sunchicken- Curse
Orange- Run for the hills comes back with tamer dismounters
Im not the best pvper in uo but im confident enough to say im more than 98.7% of siege pvpers can handle 1vs1
I am not as effective as sakie, kage, and speedy on the field.
Ill admit it. This is true because i run a mage with no scribe no necro and my spell damage is crap.
My template is a group template healer/spell sync.
I dont get enough damage output to kill effectivly because no one wants to fight and die even in a 1vs1.
My fights normally go like this.
Sunchicken- Curse
Orange- Run for the hills comes back with tamer dismounters
Im not the best pvper in uo but im confident enough to say im more than 98.7% of siege pvpers can handle 1vs1
I fear very few mages on the shard as they cannot kill me, my problem now is they all have parry and I simply cannot hit. I run max hci and 120 skill and still have everything parried!
I am actually excited about MD and hope that they do show up here in #s, the reson for this is as TNT is 99% dexxers/tamers all of SP can run parry. I hope that when they need to fight against a group of mages they will need to add scribe, necro or resist.
It is very hard to fight a char that is 100% stacked against you.
Time will tell.
I am actually excited about MD and hope that they do show up here in #s, the reson for this is as TNT is 99% dexxers/tamers all of SP can run parry. I hope that when they need to fight against a group of mages they will need to add scribe, necro or resist.
It is very hard to fight a char that is 100% stacked against you.
Time will tell.
120 Mage (-20 mage weapon + Crystaline)
120 Eval
120 Resist
120 Bushido
100 Scribe
80/100 Parry
60/40 Med
25% chance to parry at 80 parry, 30% at 100 parry. Depending on how much mana regen you can get on your sleeves, gloves and gorget, you would have to decide which is more important, the med or parry. This would still frustrate archers and give you the sdi needed for a mage temp. Added bonus, killer confidence heals on the run.
All of our mages run resist as it is
. The other skills are not needed for mage v mage group combat; just well coordinated dumps. Hell the most dangerous thing MD has going for them is that elite speedy ninja guy who is also best countered by..parry.
S
Sunchicken
Guest
I dont believe that statement if you didnt fear you wouldnt run 18 screens to avoid dieing. The fact that you run plainly contradicts your first paragraph.
When i finish my dexxer which may be another two years because working a dexxer here sucks i plan on being able to sit one screen 2vs1 and wreck them. A revamp of the template is going to take place when i finish my wep skills.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
*shakes head* If you were as great as you think you are maybe you could fifure a way to counter this perhaps? If you running "max" hci as you claim, then that explains why you cannot hit them.
Ah-HA! It's all so clear now!
The secret is to have 0% hit chance with 0 weapon skill, then get hit with HLA. This will roll the calculation over and result in:
Cross your fingers folks! If we are lucky, we will be treated to another Cheapyism pulled right out of thin air! 
Dude, I am far from great but will follow Sunchikens lead, I can kill 90% of the shard with no problem, can you say the same???
Dont hate me because I am not LAZY...I dont bless one insane weapon and kill mules!
I saw Imbuing was going to help out with PVP I have 120 Imbuing now! I saw faction items gave an edge, I am in factions, do you see a pattern.
All you do is pine away for your glory days, well Wake UP! UO has passed you by!
Just for fun I'll put this out there, 1v1 no Arties!! We will level the playing field and go back to your days of domination, let me know when and wear!
E
Essence of Siege
Guest
I'd edit that because he might as you to wear a pink tutu and floppy hat and then tell you where to meet him.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
Plz whatever you do just DON'T wear a thong! Do you need a hug? Trust me lil whipper snapper I have rezzed 10 times more people than you have killed.....I am however glad to see you finally doing what most people got tired of doing 8 years ago. Grats!
And as far as you not being able to hit parry mages who wear 70 dci...i juast lol cuz the way you guys talk you have the answer to everything...so i will just shake my head and grin...... *shakes head and grin*
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
As I've told you before there are few people on this shard who knows things that the rest don't know and there is a reason for that. The main reason you don't know is because whenever something comes your way that you just simply don't understand, rather than being receptive to the info you ridicule and refute it simply because you don't understand.Cross your fingers folks! If we are lucky, we will be treated to another Cheapyism pulled right out of thin air!
One learns by listening not by keeping his mouth running like a 7th grade school girl as you do. Trust me when I tell you I can drive a bus sideways between what you know and good information out there.
Bro, for once in your life just stop talking out of your ass. There is a HCI cap. You cannot exceed this cap. You can stack your HCI so that if you are hit with a debuff effect like hit lower attack you can still be at cap, thus negating the effects of the HLA. But no matter what, your HCI cannot exceed the cap. Apparently one learns by reading and actually playing the game, not hiding at moongates stalking crafters and wishing to god you mattered in the slightest. If I am wrong prove me wrong. No, you won't do that. You can't do that. You will hide behind a bull**** response like "Well I can't let my secrets out, you will have to figure it out for yourself." This is why you are the shard joke, because you think you know, but you have no clue.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
Once again you're thinking within that tiny lil box of yours, I never said you could exceed the hci cap? I simply said there are ways of hitting your target that has 70 dci stacked and parry. For you to be so smart I would have figured that you knew a lot more than you actually do. *taps head with finger* THINK.
HaHa, there it is. Kal hit it right on the head.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
It literally cracks me up how people like yourself think they invented pvp. *cute*
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
Do you know why most younger people (diablo) are better at this game than us old heads? There is a very logical reason but I won't even bother trying to explain that one!
Prove. It.
Come on Darknessssss. Now's your chance to put me in my place. Prove to everyone that I'm wrong. Show us all how much better than me you think you are. No? Not gonna do that? Well then **** your couch!!!
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
I don't think I'm better than you I just think that your awareness and ability to think outside the box is more limited than mine.
Because the youth of today are pumped full of amphetamines for their 'ADHD'? =]
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
Not something I can prove just as a preacher can't prove there is a God, it's just about faith. I will say this much... the longer you are in this world the more limitations the world teaches you. that's probably WAAAYY over your head so I will end it there.
Back to UO.... trust me, son, our paths will cross soon enough in this game, you just better be ready.
My god you're an idiot.
Edit: BTW, do you need me to jump on my crafter before you'll attack me?
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
Fixed that for ya.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
Ok wulf try this one...... There are people in the world who cannot swim. Do we agree on that? Assuming we agree I'll proceed....
Did you know that very person who can't swim today actually could swim when he or she was a newborn? Now why is that? Why is it he cannot swim today but could swim 30 years ago when he was first born? Over the years something or someone has convinced him that he cannot swim.
A baby can swim in the same sense that a chimpanzee can type on a computer. You can set the chimp in front of the keyboard and he will randomly press keys. Ask that same chimp to write a short essay on Isaac Newton and what you get is complete failure. Same with a baby in a swimming pool. Its natural instincts tell it to move its appendages and push against the viscal resistance of the water. It may surface once or twice but it too will soon fail and if someone is not there to help, well its a sad story on the 6 o'clock news.
I guess you fit right into both analogies. As the chimp who is only capable of hitting a few keys and as an infant that has not yet learned there is more to swimming(ie. UO) than just flailing your arms about.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
lol wow....smart people don't have to try so hard to be smart. No one thinks a baby can swim a mile lol..... always missing the point.
Who said anything about swimming a mile? A baby cant stay afloat and survive in a bath tub. Same with you in a real pvp situation. Well, I guess you'll always have smoke bomb and slink away to keep you alive.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
You really don't know anything do you? This is one ninja who doesn't use smoke bombs in the field. if i can't put enough distance between them and use the hide skill then I simply DO NOT hide at all. No bombs or hide pots...I use the actual skill, no tricks.
Well ****, I can't remember the last time I (or anyone for that matter) has actually seen you play. I don't spend my gametime hanging around moongates or talking with crafters, so my chances of actually running into you are slim to none.
H
Hugibear
Guest
Here let me explain a few things to cheapy. I might be off by 5 points here and there but for the most part even you should be able to understand this.
hci and dci are capped at 45, parry mages run 70 dci. Hit lower defense takes off 25 dci from that 70 leavin you 45 dci hence you are still at the max dci of 45. Now if hit lower d goes off again it doesnt stack. It takes 25 off of the original 70. Now you are prolly thinkin to use suprise attack again it doesnt stack. You cant stack dci with specials of any kind and weapon properties. Uo lowers it from your original base. Now the same holds true for hci. You cant stack max hci from items and then use lightnin strike thinkin you would get 90 hci. Your cap is 45 hci from items, and specials.
Parry mage 70 dci 120 parry vs archer 45 hci 120 weapon skill. Now uo runs several calculations on the chances to hit but I am not typing a paper here. So the basics, hci and dci will nullify each other. So you get a 50% chance to hit. My 120 parry will block 35% of the time. Now these calculations dont stack either. So basically if you are lucky you might me 2 times in a row. The problem as stated in another post by sunchicken is that running this temp is not going to bed anyone 1 on1, just not enough damage output. But you last for along time in the field.
hci and dci are capped at 45, parry mages run 70 dci. Hit lower defense takes off 25 dci from that 70 leavin you 45 dci hence you are still at the max dci of 45. Now if hit lower d goes off again it doesnt stack. It takes 25 off of the original 70. Now you are prolly thinkin to use suprise attack again it doesnt stack. You cant stack dci with specials of any kind and weapon properties. Uo lowers it from your original base. Now the same holds true for hci. You cant stack max hci from items and then use lightnin strike thinkin you would get 90 hci. Your cap is 45 hci from items, and specials.
Parry mage 70 dci 120 parry vs archer 45 hci 120 weapon skill. Now uo runs several calculations on the chances to hit but I am not typing a paper here. So the basics, hci and dci will nullify each other. So you get a 50% chance to hit. My 120 parry will block 35% of the time. Now these calculations dont stack either. So basically if you are lucky you might me 2 times in a row. The problem as stated in another post by sunchicken is that running this temp is not going to bed anyone 1 on1, just not enough damage output. But you last for along time in the field.
O
Ole Cheapy
Guest
I totally agree with that hugi, I dunno about anyone else but i usually aim to keep the parry mages at 45 dci at ALL times. Then imo the dexxer will win that battle.
H
Hugibear
Guest
listen mate i am a horrid mage, but than this game isnt much of a challenge anymore for me on a dexxor temp. So i play the parry mage temp, and most people on dexxor temps cant kill me. I would say most of the shard couldnt. Becuase most of the shard plays dexxors. You cant kill what you cant hit.