Why can't we have colored pets?

[Shakkar]

yes why can we not have colored pets? to further air uo laundry. where is our colored animals? at xmas year b4 last the design crew give a patch.
and when they came back from vacation 2 weeks later we lost our colored animals.like all things in uo. they never said u could or couldnt have colored pets. I think that this was a lame move. why can I not have a colored with dye i paid for swampie? do i excede at pvp or pvm with this colored animal? naw ur lame trying to milk it for what its worth. give us our colored pets. cant beat the blaze colored guy bank sitting. so? wheres our fun? i ll tell ya. its in magencia waiting for golems to spawn , so griefers can take it. boom whats ur colored animal story?

 

[Viper09]

You new to this game? They had the idea for colored pets. They even asked us about it, there some a survey or something too. A lot of people were actually against the idea so they never went through with it. So before you continue with your inane rants, it's actually the players fault for convincing them not to. Can't say I disapprove of them not adding the colored pets either.

However, them adding it on test wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[Hunters' Moon]

Because enough neon is in the game already. The day I see a neon blue greater dragon is the day I will close my accounts.

 

[Shakkar]

i was commenting more on the fact it was given and takem from us. not can we have sorry u misunderstood.

 

[Stickypaws]

boom whats ur colored animal story?

Coloured animals in the EC is why I don't tame any more. It is my only real complaint with new client, Hiryus just look terrible. So bad I cant bring myself to work the spawn for a pretty colour (there are none!). Cu's have a better graphic, but the hueing of them is sloppy.

We cant have coloured pets because flat hued pets are eye bleeding bad.

 

[Uvtha]

We cant have coloured pets because flat hued pets are eye bleeding bad.

Oh I dunno. Certainly im against just ANY ole color, or even dying pets, but I think it would be cool to add in rare colored tameable spawns, so long as the colors weren't disgusting.

Back when ancient wyrms were just colored dragons I thought lots of the shades looked very nice, and not at all garish.

Id like to see some variation in the hues of stuff like bears and wolves too. Not that they are functional pets, but just for spice.

 

[Stickypaws]

I would agree, if it wasnt for the way pets are hued in the EC. I used to love taming pretty Hiryus! I am quite upset theres no brown dragons anymore as well.

But the flat wash hues they use in the new client are ghastly! Give us pretty coloured Hiryus back! ^^

Edited to add pictorial :

This is Hueing a pet - Notice the way they still look coloured and pet like :

This is not how to hue pets :

Flat colours like this is not hueing, its lazy art and looks terrible!

Give the EC proper hues, and I will support hued animals in a flash, leave em flat like that, and I would rather do without thanks!

 

[Aurelius]

i was commenting more on the fact it was given and takem from us. not can we have sorry u misunderstood.

It was 'given' for a short while on Test. People voted, said they did not want it, so it never went live anywhere .... so saying it was 'given and taken away' is exaggerating it quite a bit, unless of course you only ever play test shards.

 

[Petra Fyde]

There was a survey, the general consensus was the method used to implement them gave undesirable results. Coloured pets may be re-introduced in some form in the future, in fact Mesanna has hinted at the possibility only recently.

 

[Viper09]

Yeah, having it on test doesn't count as them "giving it to us and taking it away." There have been plenty of things that appeared only on test and never went live.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

to answer the question presented...

you will shoot your eye out? oh wait...that was a red ryder

 

[Hell's Ironworks]

I still have 2 Purple bunnys from easter or valentines day a couple years back.

I can sell one to you for eleventy million gold if you want

 

[sablestorm]

Gotta love how people twist the truth. The results of the poll were that in general dyed pets were favorably received, but that players wanted them to be specifically rendered for their own particular color rather than just rendered which any person can manage in a screen shot by toying with the highlight color options and mousing over a pet's hit point bar.

If the Devs do implement some sort of pet Dye and that vocal minority on stratics complains, just remember they are twisting facts to fit the result they'd like to see in UO.

While I'm at it, let me also mention they had a survey which let players choose which color schemes they liked and didn't like to further narrow this poll of theirs.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Because I didnt want to vomit everytime I logged in.

 

[vwrmic]

Agreed with the majority. There's enough yucky colours in the game already. However, I'm all for adding rare tameables with unique colours, as long as the colours are actually realistic.. Say NO to Neon UO!

 

[Tanivar]

No one's mentioned the dipped in a bucket of paint all one shade of color part of what they offered us yet?

Put some 'natural' shading to the monster hide colors like that the CC has and a lot of those who objected to the pet colors would go for the idea and just grimace at the neon colored atrocities some make.

A few of those neon colored atrocities bank-sitting in Luna would help move people to other places to bank sit. <g>

 

[Meat Elemental]

Howabout they add a option in client do not display coloured pets so you see them regular colour.

 

[BeefSupreme]

I want glacial dyed white wyrms!

Give people the option to turn it off in the client.

 

[Lord X]

I am not saying there should or should not be colored animals in UO....
But to the OP he does have a point I think many of you may be missing as far as given and taking back.

On all shards there was a time where you could dye your swampy barding deed with a tokuno dye. Then you placed the barding on your swampy and poof, colored swampy. Many people lined up their Red, White and Blue swampies at luna bank and etc.

I personally had a few on some chars and I also dyed a full set of deeds and put them in a bag, just in case. Of course within a week or so, everything was reverted and I had a bunch of Iron barding deeds.

 

[DevilsOwn]

477 posts in this thread about pet dyes have fun!

 

[Uvtha]

I want glacial dyed white wyrms!

Give people the option to turn it off in the client.

A glacial colored pet does exist!

 

[AzSel]

Id rather see Destard filled with different kind of dragons, yes their colors too, but more then that....a red dragon breathes and deals fire damage, a green dragon breathes and deals poison dmg etc etc.

But most of all Id like to see the white wyrm gain some power to compete with the greater dragon.

 

[hen]

Tartan neon rideable gorillas please Devs.

 

[old gypsy]

I had a colored pet once... when my kids got into the food coloring and turned our little white dog into a multi-hued easter pup. rolleyes:

As for UO, naw... lots of other things that need the dev's attention.

 

[Sargon]

I'm all for adding pet dyes, but dying a pet should kill it. That would only be reasonable, right?

 

[LoL/Sonoma]

Id rather see Destard filled with different kind of dragons, yes their colors too, but more then that....a red dragon breathes and deals fire damage, a green dragon breathes and deals poison dmg etc etc.

But most of all Id like to see the white wyrm gain some power to compete with the greater dragon.

QFT. I would KILL to see some variety added back to dragons. I HATE having to run around with the exact same pet as everyone else, let alone the exact same colored pet.

I would take it one set further an make a variety of top tier pets (instead of just GD). Maybe something like one powerful pet per damage type. All fairly similar in HPs (within a few hundred max). Each could have an unusual stregnth or special ability (some already do - Rune beetle poison, Cu bleed/healing, etc). Obviously with more balancing than my 5 mins of thought put into this =)

Could be something like:
Physical - Hiryu (stays the same, special abilities Speed(?), rideable and dismount)
Fire - GD (Add fire as main dmg type! Casting ability)
Cold - Bring back the White Wyrm! (otherwise similar to GD)
Poison - Rune Beetle! (Warp, Deadly poison, bleed and casting)
Energy - Cu Sidhe (Healing, Bleed, Rideable)

If not this then i fully support different dragon colors for different damage types. Would be fun to have a little more tactics in taming. Choosing a pet could be kind of like choosing gear for a hunt on other classes. =)

 

[BeefSupreme]

I'm all for adding pet dyes, but dying a pet should kill it. That would only be reasonable, right?

Reasonable would be having a pet dog or cat. Unreasonable is having a pet dragon.

 

[Shakkar]

mainly like the idea of dyed swampy armor again for riding, however the idea about more colored dragons with distinct damage is a great idea. can some one pass this on to developers again.

 

[LoL/Sonoma]

Reasonable would be having a pet dog or cat. Unreasonable is having a pet dragon.

Totally ... i mean its not like we are playing a fantasy game where people can summon demons, throw fireballs and are immune to death or anything. Taming dragons is too far fetched!

 

[[JD]]

many times someone says no to colored petss they always mention neon or glacial pets, bleeding eyes, etc...

who says anything needs to be neon.. christ... let us choose from the basic color wheel... red, blue, yellow, green, etc. even SOME small selection of color would be far better than nothing.

and lastly they should introduce a feature where you can take one color in your palate and turn it into another. it should be a local display change only. that way people who are bothered by some certain thing can change it without having to make the rest of us suffer for their "optical sensitivity".

 

[Stickypaws]

many times someone says no to colored petss they always mention neon or glacial pets, bleeding eyes, etc...

who says anything needs to be neon.. christ... let us choose from the basic color wheel... red, blue, yellow, green, etc. even SOME small selection of color would be far better than nothing.

and lastly they should introduce a feature where you can take one color in your palate and turn it into another. it should be a local display change only. that way people who are bothered by some certain thing can change it without having to make the rest of us suffer for their "optical sensitivity".

Look at the pictures in my 2nd post in this thread. Until they hue properly in EC, no selection is better than flat hues

 

[LoL/Sonoma]

Or they could jsut trash the EC and start over. Would probably take less time. =)

 

[Tazar]

Why can't we have colored pets? I'd say it's because some people have no taste...

Case in point:

 

[Stickypaws]

Aside from the Hue's I love the EC. I cant wait for them to trash CC myself.

 

[[JD]]

Look at the pictures in my 2nd post in this thread. Until they hue properly in EC, no selection is better than flat hues

people just want to say no no no and arent listening.
if flat hues are what is best, allow us a selection of flat hues from which to dye the pets.
watch someone say they hate flat hues and prefer X, Y, or Z.

you people are why we cant have nice things in UO
heheh

 

[Stickypaws]

Ya got lotsa nice things in UO ^^ The new way of hueing pets isnt one of them ^^

If they hued pets in the EC the way they did in the CC I would go taming Hiryus until I found a nice colour, but them new hues on things just looks unsightly. I prefer seeing neon over them things. The flat look removes all details from the creature. Mlah ^^

 

[Tanivar]

you people are why we cant have nice things in UO
heheh

Actually we people are why all of us don't have to put up with ugly things like the colored pets as they tried to inflict them upon us.

Whoever dreamed up those things hopefully got immediately promoted to somewhere their decisions have no effect on anything affecting EA's products.

Can you imagine any company selling many products colored like that? Or any who have, not losing a fortune in product they have sacrifice sell to some deiscount chain for pennies on the dollar just to get rid of it.

People don't tend to buy ugly things.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

Why can't we have colored pets? I'd say it's because some people have no taste...

Case in point:

I feel sorry for anyone walking by that dog on pschedelics...especially if they are hungry for a snowcone. It would not end well...

 

[puni666]

Great... next we'll have imbued armor for pets.

 

[Stickypaws]

Great... next we'll have imbued armor for pets.

Bit of a leap there lad...

 

[puni666]

Bit of a leap there lad...

Ok ok sorry. Fix pets first. With that I mean when one dies everyone on the damned screen should not crash. Then worry about what color they are .

 

[Boogy]

yes why can we not have colored pets?

Wasnt that banned in 1865?

 

[phantus]

Cus color makes people cry.

 

[MalagAste]

We can not have colored pets because the UO Artists on the DEV team can't even figure out how to get perspective right... so how do expect them to get something as complicated as Color right... it's blatantly obvious they can NOT do colors right case in point the Hiryu in the EC and Dragons...

Lets face it our art department would epically FAIL at pet hues.

 

[Dermott of LS]

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The problem isn't really the artists, it's that most of the art (including creatures) in the 2d client were not designed with hueing, or further, multi-hueing in mind. So when they applied the hueing in the test run, you got single color with shades versions of the creatures which honestly looked BAD.

It's the same problem with the plants in 2d (KR had fixed this in regards to plants, but I'm not certain if the partial hueing ported over to EC as I haven't been in a plant mood to check).

Until they can redesign the creatures involved to accept partial hueing, and then decide on a range of acceptible hues (i.e. NO neon or other acid-drop eye-puke combinations), THEN they can put the concept into the game.

It's not that it can't be done, but that it is more difficult than just a simple "rehue" that they tried to pass off the first time.

It's something that should be done carefully.

 

[phantus]

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The problem isn't really the artists, it's that most of the art (including creatures) in the 2d client were not designed with hueing, or further, multi-hueing in mind. So when they applied the hueing in the test run, you got single color with shades versions of the creatures which honestly looked BAD.

It's the same problem with the plants in 2d (KR had fixed this in regards to plants, but I'm not certain if the partial hueing ported over to EC as I haven't been in a plant mood to check).

Until they can redesign the creatures involved to accept partial hueing, and then decide on a range of acceptible hues (i.e. NO neon or other acid-drop eye-puke combinations), THEN they can put the concept into the game.

It's not that it can't be done, but that it is more difficult than just a simple "rehue" that they tried to pass off the first time.

It's something that should be done carefully.

All true. The reality is this is not going to happen. The time would better be spent on creating a new MMO. This would be a large undertaking and frankly isn't going to happen. The colored pets deal is played out. If you went with an in-game poll on the question you get more yes than no's like we did with the original poll way back when. Then you have a mass of people like last time come to stop it or complain. It's a fight not worth fighting for to be honest.

It boils down to get this(that being crappy half assed dyed pets) or nothing. As is our collective right as humans many have chosen nothing. Those that choose nothing should also realize that nothing doesn't mean they will make it good in the future though. That is a pipe dream.

 

[Dermott of LS]

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Well, to be fair, it was once said LOOONG ago (around the end of T2A, start of Renn) that it was difficult to impossible to add new artwork to the client (then only the 2d client existed). This has (obviously) long since been changed and new artwork is added relatively frequently. Now of course you DO have to balance it out with the current manpower situation that UO seems to be in.

I'm not going to say that it WON'T happen, only that doing so is a LOT more involved than the "quick version" that was attempted and rejected.

It's happened before with the custom carpets addition in SA. The whole Custom Carpets thing was first attempted over a decade ago on test as Floortiles and was considered at the time undoable (due to a BIG exploit issue), but was found lurking in the code, fixed, and added in with the SA expansion.

So it's premature to say it WON'T happen, but at the same time, it's not going to be easy for it to happen either.