Who's the Bill Gates of UO....i.e. The Richest person???

[Sethblackmoore]

What's the largest amount of gold you've owned in game or someone you know has had in game? Who is the richest person in the game? I heard of some guy the other day talk about losing 1.8 BILLION gold. Man that is more gold than I will ever see in this game. But I digress....so who is the Bill Gates of UO???

 

[Black Sun]

I can tell you this, it's not me. My max was 19 million, and that only lasted maybe 24 hours. I dumped 12 of it into the library for some folded steel reading glasses.

 

[Guest]

you mean Warren Buffet?

 

[Guest]

Rich is a relative term. Either way you define it, it sure ain't me.

 

[Kratos Aurion]

most gold I ever owned, around 750m (at a single point).

most gold Ive known someone to own, 4bil.

biggest rare collection Ive seen valued/estimated at over 7bil (not gold but items)
-also note a lot of rare collectors who've been collecting these rares for along time got them when they were significantly cheaper than the present day value.

 

[Noie]

I'm going to bet it's one of the rares collectors. Which one? Who knows...

 

[Kratos Aurion]

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I'm going to bet it's one of the rares collectors. Which one? Who knows...

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Im going to say the richest person at any time in UOs history was the man that duped 15 tril worth of gold.. currently, no idea. I certainly dont have 700m anymore. My stock usually hovers around 40-60

 

[Sethblackmoore]

Well then since I had to wikipedia that guy...LOL! I guess you sir are right. Then who's the Warren Buffet of UO?

 

[Guest]

yea i definatly think it was that guy who either duped over a few trillion worth of gold

Or that guy who had 20 computers running 20-40 clients of uo each all doing an exploit that raked in 30k/hour/character, 30,000x18hoursx400 chars=216,000,000 a day, thats 216million a day back when gold was selling for 10$ a million at least.

He is probably the bill gates because he probably still has accounts that are loaded up with gold checks for 1 mil that he is still selling on ebay.

 

[Guest]

This is a trick question, right? Siege gold is worth more than 5 times what many are used to seeing. My Gold is worth more than most.

 

[Fayled Dhreams]

Indeterminate ...

"GP" on hand ... one of the 100-mill for cash any shard any time group ...
"Luna Property" holdings of another group ...
Rares traders ... yet another "one transaction" group ...
Bought Arties for PvP ... certainly the "showiest group ...

Mall owners' were the "old money" group ...

*shrugs* ...
15 trillion in gp went poof! ... and nary a twitch on the general market

EAMythic ... could scan all accounts and tally all stored on (owned)vendor gp ...

still ...

Indeterminate ...

(btw ... you did mean "legitimate" ... aye ?)

 

[Guest]

I am not the richest person on Siege. I only heve 40 million or so. It is significant though

 

[Sethblackmoore]

Well to be honest I hadn't put much thought into the thread when I posted it. Just a general "who's seen how much gold?" kind of a thing. But if you wanna go with specifics and trick questions I'm sure ppl on stratics will debate with ya all day. LOL!! I was just curious how rich ppl were.

Btw I'm super poor on this game. I guess I don't hunt the right creatures or sell the right things or hit the right times to sell the right things or something. Anyway its just like watching MTV cribs and day dreaming about all the money we wish we had. So I wanted to day dream about all the gold you ppl have!!!!

 

[Kratos Aurion]

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Well then since I had to wikipedia that guy...LOL! I guess you sir are right. Then who's the Warren Buffet of UO?

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actually from statistics released earlier this year (feb?), bill gates was only the 3rd richest man in the world.

1) warren buffet (classic rich guy) - buys/sells companies
2) forget the name (owns a oil business in mexico)
3) bill gates - owner of microsoft

 

[Guest]

Gold is shard specific.

 

[imported_Cysphruo]

any professional broker easily has over a billion gold on each server, figure that up then multiply it a bunch

 

[masterblaster99]

DUPERS AND CHEATERS BUT EA CATERS TO THEM

 

[imported_xStrikerx]

I'm fairly poor, most gold I've ever had was 7 mil. I have about 700k now. I have seen people selling several billion on their house's message board though.

 

[Kaj]

The richest person/company I have recently seen/met had around 40 billion in cash and a pretty significant amount caught up in items, but that's a broker.
I do not think someone who invests a lot of RL cash (not just a few hundred bucks) in UO should be seen as a 'rich player', but more as a 'company'.

There might have been some rumours about dupers with trillions, but it's still next to impossible to store (1 trillion is still 1000 billion, and a billion is 1000 million, ergo 1 million million checks), but I deem that not extremely likely. Though in the big bannings supposedly over 16 trillion in gold was deleted (along with over 400 accounts and over 100k items).

As for me, I don't tell

. But I certainly do not have 40 billion in cash. Though I am most likely in the upper echelon of wealth.

 

[Kaj]

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2) forget the name (owns a oil business in mexico)


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Carlos Slim Helú.

 

[Arcus]

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What's the largest amount of gold you've owned in game or someone you know has had in game? Who is the richest person in the game? I heard of some guy the other day talk about losing 1.8 BILLION gold. Man that is more gold than I will ever see in this game. But I digress....so who is the Bill Gates of UO???

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Hemisphere

 

[Guest]

I am certainly not accusing anyone her specifically of this but when I see threads kind of like this and other where they ask you what your best suit is and such just seems like an invitation to come hack the accounts that have the most gold or best items and such. Kind of like why I don't do those creepy surveys on myspace because all they do is collect all that info and compile a profile on you in order to customize advertisements directed towards you. Me personally I would never disclose how much gold I own or the items I have.

 

[Kaj]

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I am certainly not accusing anyone her specifically of this but when I see threads kind of like this and other where they ask you what your best suit is and such just seems like an invitation to come hack the accounts that have the most gold or best items and such. Kind of like why I don't do those creepy surveys on myspace because all they do is collect all that info and compile a profile on you in order to customize advertisements directed towards you. Me personally I would never disclose how much gold I own or the items I have.

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Getting hacked is in 90% of the cases due to a mistake from the victim. If you run an up-to-date virus scanner, firewall, spyware detection program and use a protected modem and/or router you are pretty safe.
And never give out your information to *anyone*. Also be careful giving out personal details, like your pet name or mothers name to 'friends'. They might try and use that information to retrieve your password.

Over the years I must have received around a thousand e-mails with 'awesome UO pictures' and 'even better UO scripting programs'. Never opened them, never got hacked.

 

[Arcus]

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and use a protected modem and/or router

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lol...just lol

 

[Guest]

Don't know about all of UO, but i gotta say the "King of Dupers" on Napa is probably the richest person on Napa. Stratics won't allow me to directly name him, so i just call him the "King of Dupers", anyone on Napa who has seen/heard of him can tell you exactly who he is though. Right before Ebay banned the sales of all Virtual Items (Pixel Crack), he sold over 8 Billion Gold on Ebay. He walks around wearing illegal duped items right in plain view in public. He was also the guy scamming people with a Blaze Cu Sidhe across multiple shards, which led to the "Pet Trade Window Hue" publish.

I've seen him sell duped items to people when i was in B-C and they were allied with XP a few years ago. He was always coming up to the XP Guildhouse after a champ and offering to sell Calm Halberds, Paladin Swords (Before the Redeemer even came out, which besides the dupes, is the only equippable Paladin Sword in the game), Halberds with a Reddish/Blue hue, etc.

Funny to think that when i had 20 Mill about 8-9 years ago, i was considered one of Napa's Wealthiest. Made it House Placing/Selling mainly. Remember some person offering me 2 Mill for my Pure/Long Mane Nightmare, after they stopped spawning, and several people around me had their' jaws hanging on the ground and were telling me to take the offer. I declined it, and still have Apollo to this day, glad i did, Apollo is like my 10 yr old 7xGM WW Hades, an absolute bloodthirsty berserker.

 

[Guest]

I'm lucky to have enough gold to cover insurance some days. Far to many times I had to cash that one check I keep in the bank on every charactor to just cover the insure items.

 

[Sethblackmoore]

Well I do apologize for making anyone feel uncomfortable about me asking how rich you are. I guess there is no way to convince someone I'm not a hacker...lol. I'm just curious as how much gold really truly circulates in the game. I'm poor and have about 3 mil spread over 2 accounts. But I also don't hunt for gold enough.

So what rares go for 100's of millions? They are server birth rares?

 

[Kratos Aurion]

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Well I do apologize for making anyone feel uncomfortable about me asking how rich you are. I guess there is no way to convince someone I'm not a hacker...lol. I'm just curious as how much gold really truly circulates in the game. I'm poor and have about 3 mil spread over 2 accounts. But I also don't hunt for gold enough.

So what rares go for 100's of millions? They are server birth rares?

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honestly getting hacked by telling people how much money you have is as likely as hitting the lottery twice in your life.

rares that go for 100's range. EM items (a lot of these do), some server births (2 story statues, 2 piece plough etc) and possibly old seer/counseler items.

 

[Guest]

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and use a protected modem and/or router

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lol...just lol

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You know what he means. Don't be a mean nerd.

 

[AirmidCecht]

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Well I do apologize for making anyone feel uncomfortable about me asking how rich you are. I guess there is no way to convince someone I'm not a hacker...lol. I'm just curious as how much gold really truly circulates in the game. I'm poor and have about 3 mil spread over 2 accounts. But I also don't hunt for gold enough.

So what rares go for 100's of millions? They are server birth rares?

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Consider yourself wealthy with what you have if you enjoy logging in and playing when you get the chance. I have been playing for 5 years now and for the first few I made it a point to never have more than 1 M in gold, which kinda sucked some days, hehe, but it helped me to keep working at my goals. You don't quite get that "end game" feeling when you want that artifact or item you need and can't just go out and buy it with your gazillions in gold.

When you get to where you are bored and can toss money around I think it takes some of the joy out of it. Boredom leads to whining...(whining leads to uohall *winks*)

 

[Guest]

It's all pretty relative.
Some people's assets are tied up in rares collections. Other's in their characters (Having 7 characters all with 120 caps gets a wealth nod in my book) or perhaps someone has the best suits for pvm or pvp. Include weapons in that.

If you're talking about just gold, well, that to me is pretty worthless. I know a guy getting gold at 75 cents per million.

 

[imported_Cysphruo]

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Don't know about all of UO, but i gotta say the "King of Dupers" on Napa is probably the richest person on Napa. Stratics won't allow me to directly name him, so i just call him the "King of Dupers", anyone on Napa who has seen/heard of him can tell you exactly who he is though. Right before Ebay banned the sales of all Virtual Items (Pixel Crack), he sold over 8 Billion Gold on Ebay. He walks around wearing illegal duped items right in plain view in public. He was also the guy scamming people with a Blaze Cu Sidhe across multiple shards, which led to the "Pet Trade Window Hue" publish.

I've seen him sell duped items to people when i was in B-C and they were allied with XP a few years ago. He was always coming up to the XP Guildhouse after a champ and offering to sell Calm Halberds, Paladin Swords (Before the Redeemer even came out, which besides the dupes, is the only equippable Paladin Sword in the game), Halberds with a Reddish/Blue hue, etc.

Funny to think that when i had 20 Mill about 8-9 years ago, i was considered one of Napa's Wealthiest. Made it House Placing/Selling mainly. Remember some person offering me 2 Mill for my Pure/Long Mane Nightmare, after they stopped spawning, and several people around me had their' jaws hanging on the ground and were telling me to take the offer. I declined it, and still have Apollo to this day, glad i did, Apollo is like my 10 yr old 7xGM WW Hades, an absolute bloodthirsty berserker.

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that makes no sense, why would a duper need to scam?

 

[Guest]

I don't consider myself poor, but I definitely don't go shopping for 120s very often. About half the gold I've made in all my time playing came from one heartwood runic and still have about a third of it collecting dust as a buffer against poverty. I haven't done a lot of farming since switching to KR - because the client's performance tends to degrade over time, I tend to play a character for only half-an-hour at a time before logging out.

( but if people are really getting the 1,000,000gp per snakeskin that I saw on vendors today, then my wealth has to be considered pretty good

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[Redxpanda]

*bank*

2.2 mil

*sigh*

 

[JoyousGard]

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lol...just lol

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You know what he means. Don't be a mean nerd.

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Quote cause it was the closest and had the word nerd...

Certainly not the richest, but...

In roughly 14 months I am 20 mil GP liquid and who knows what else in stable investments and acquired item garbage that people will pay for...

I did this by competitively(compulsively?) grinding DF, taming animals that people buy, throwing away competitors' vendor runes left on the ground, spamming what I was selling, catering to other spammers, grinding away at monsters, grinding away at buying components, and grinding away at skillgain.

I still don't have the breathing room I require... but I have a system that works for me.

For me and most upstarts, the key is selling to human players. NPCs do not offer what RL players will pay. NPCs are for scripters IMO. RL players are for RL sellers. Especially in terms of you getting their GP pixel for your pixel items.

NEW GENERATION retailers... ask yourself... if a guy just spent $17.50 for 10 million gp, how reluctant will he be to part with 410k to get a relatively common item that he needs? Not very. What is 410k compared to the 10 mil he just bought? Who knows!? It's definitely not your problem though. Sell to RL GP buyers, and just assume everyone is one.

Also, if you are new and want to make money...

You should think hard about what rares are, and why you, a paying subscriber, are not able to have items made available to a handful. You pay the monthly dues, why are you left out? Some of these select few rares owners are not even paying subscribers, but their accounts are able to hold items that you, as a paying subscriber, will never be able to acquire. It's not because you are lazy or new. It is because rares are leftover garbage from a system that is not in existence anymore.

GL, and who is the richest so far???? Is this per account or per individual character???

 

[Guest]

I could not tell ya how much I have Cept for the fact that I opened a 3rd account just for a house for my gold prob near the billion range give or take a 100m or so.

 

[Guest]

None of you are remotely close.

 

[Guest]

I know I used to be at one point the richest on Pacific first then the richest on Napa.

I know this because I bought the first Tower(I didn't see any other tower at the time) on Pacific about a month after the game started and
I bought 24 houses in the first month on Napa including a castle and two towers.
Though I placed the castle second cause I held it for one night (President Nixon was first. I got his head after that though literally haha)

I believe that was just a little under 700,000 gold in the bank on Napa.

BTW - the richest man in the world is no longer bill gates it is Carlos Slim Helu he owns most of Mexico.

 

[Guest]

I never counted up how much money I had at one time except to see if I could buy something I wanted, it was always spread out on vendors. A few hundred mill I guess. I'm pretty broke right now, I put my gold into buying rares and other items I like and haven't been camping houses lately to make up the deficit. Also with the declining population on Baja I haven't been able to move much stuff. It's sad when you check your vendors every couple weeks and hardly anything has been sold.

Probably one of the richest legit players would be one of the top rares collectors or one of the big traders, tho they usually sell their gold off I believe. Brokers will have a lot of money spread out amongst a lot of different shards, but they are more about the business than 'playing'.

 

[Kaj]

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lol...just lol

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I quote a part of the Linksys site:
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WRT150N - Wireless-N Home Router

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To help protect your data and privacy, the Router can encode all wireless transmissions with industrial-strength 256-bit encryption. It can serve as your network's DHCP Server, has a powerful SPI firewall to protect your PCs against intruders and most known Internet attacks, and supports VPN pass-through. Configuration is a snap with the web browser-based configuration utility.

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And there's modems with built in routers that offer similar protection.

My terminology might not be spot on, but you, considering by your sardonic comment, should know what I mean.

 

[Connor_Graham]

"throwing away competitors' vendor runes left on the ground"

This is a sad, sad practice.


And people wonder where the community has gone......

I sowwy. Me can't handle anyone else selling any-ting....

All this does is show a complete disregard and disrepect for your fellow players. Not to mention further pushing overpriced Luna houses, because it's the players with vendors OUTSIDE Luna walls that drop runes to advertise their shops.

 

[the 4th man]

Name one place Bill gates has never been too??....(joke)

I see this post seriously going to the outside gold buyers, which I don't respect at all.

(wipes shoe-ewwww)

 

[imported_Seinken]

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"throwing away competitors' vendor runes left on the ground"

This is a sad, sad practice.


And people wonder where the community has gone......

I sowwy. Me can't handle anyone else selling any-ting....

All this does is show a complete disregard and disrepect for your fellow players. Not to mention further pushing overpriced Luna houses, because it's the players with vendors OUTSIDE Luna walls that drop runes to advertise their shops.

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While this may be 'bad' practice, don't tell me it isn't smart. Also, if those vendors really gave a damn about their sales they wouldn't just dump runes and jump ship. They would sit at Luna sending gates and advertising their wares.

What he's doing is smart business practice, lol kind of reminds me of walmart, dominate the competition, and look where they are.

 

[Avalonia]

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I never counted up how much money I had at one time except to see if I could buy something I wanted, it was always spread out on vendors. A few hundred mill I guess. I'm pretty broke right now, I put my gold into buying rares and other items I like and haven't been camping houses lately to make up the deficit. Also with the declining population on Baja I haven't been able to move much stuff. It's sad when you check your vendors every couple weeks and hardly anything has been sold.


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I don't think you can really blame the declining population of the shard. The thing is that this game is dominated with veterans, and as veterans we normally don't pay insane prices for items we know we can do without or that we can eventually get ourselves. You could try coming up with reasonable prices if you want to sell items.

 

[Guest]

The most I've ever had is about 3.5 million. Problem is...3 of those 3.5 mill, were given to me. LOL. Gold in this game does not interest me. Saving gold is a bank sitter's game.

No thanks...la

 

[BajaElladan]

Hail Folks,

I quarrel with thy notion that gold equals wealth, or at least that gold alone equals wealth.

My wealth is based upon my friendships within Britannia. And I count myself wealthy beyond measure upon that basis.

Elladan of Baja

 

[Karthcove]

Anyone who has purchased or dupped gold or items must take the total appraised value, multiply the number by ten and subtract it from the actual "earned in game" gold and item total - that would be the net worth.

 

[Guest]

last time i counted, i had around 400 mil in checks, two luna houses, a castle in fel "which is my favorite house still" a ton of old ass items, a alot of old rares, but no server births

. they are all sort of like elladin said, worthless.... i have alot of friends, or atleast did, untill certain changes, and most left, including my brother, who now plays WoW. I hardly spend anyhting now because i cant see spending a 1 mil on one item, that is likely "or not likely" to be duplicated by ea in mass tommorow... but PvP is still fun

and so i guess i have plenty of insurance.... though i would like that removed too

i wanna play my thief again

 

[JoyousGard]

Oh no, you don't like my business practices. What is "I'm sowwy...?" Is that how an Asian emigre might say it? That is weird. I guess the smiley icon at the end makes it humorous.

In posts like these there are always a few people that only ever had 1-5 mil gp and some of them seem confused as to why. I was like that too, so I offered some methods that worked for me. It was not my intent to upset your fragile sensibilities.

Is your business suffering? That is sad. Not my problem, but sad. I have an idea for you though. If you have a vendor you are excited about. Talk to people about him/her and hand them your runes. Get out there and spread the good word. Solicit. Look it up.

I do the whole community love fest. Let's go slay a monster. I've attended RP meetings. I do the whole; "hey loser newb let me show you what worked for me." I do the whole; "sure, you need 3mil for a PS. take it and if you can, pay me back, but don't worry about it."

But when I am competing for GP pixel there is not much I can do to help you personally. What is community minded about opening up personal NPC vendors? That is anti-social isn't it? There is no person to person contact there. In my method of sale, people barter and joke and have a good time buying and selling, because there is person to person interaction there. If a person has a question about a product or is scared it is fake, we can bring in 3rd party arbiters. There is obvious community participation. It's not always a good time though. Some people try to scam or lol at me and it is annoying and frustrating, but even in these instances, there is definite community interaction there.

Is your community participation going to an illegal website to view what other people's vendor prices are set at and then setting your prices? Sounds illegal, but more importantly it is not very person to person as far as interaction with the UO community is concerned.

It seems that you can't be bothered interacting with a person who wants to buy something, so you have a vendor and drop trash on the ground. That is great for the community. I'm sowwy, but me tinky you lazy.

I just don't care about other people's vendors. Don't get me wrong, I care about my vendor and I send people to good vendors I know about. But, generally speaking, I do not care about other people's vendors or the trash runes left on the ground.

If you need some more business advice or lessons on what community is in UO I'm not sure I can provide much more information, but as a community minded Stratics member, I will certainly try.

 

[Guest]

No "sowwy" is little kid talk for childness.

I didnt read the whole post. Who throws away competitors runes?