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What to do with this skills? ( 5 chars, old 2004 templates )

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Doran

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Hello :)

started ultima online again before 5 days, now i bought 2 soulstones and i want to get something usefull out of my character actualy.
im actualy out of the game, played the last time 2003/2004, and i dont know the new skills ( bushido,ninjitsu,spellweaving,mysticsm and so on) )
primary i want to pve, champing in groups and soloing.

Want to start with my mage Rhuad , and maybe also with my old dexxer Rael.

what would you recommend to get the best out of rhuad as a full mage and rael as a dexxer ( maybe the new sampire? )

here are the skills:

Rhuad
Anatomy 110
Evaluating Intelligence 110
Magery 110
Meditation 110
Necromancy 110
Spirit Speak 110

Rael
Anatomy 110
Fencing 111,9
Focus 100
Healing 91
Tactics 110
Chivalry 100

Sarunor
Eval Int 100
Magery 100
Mediation 100
Resisting Spells 52,9
Hiding 100
Musicianship 110
Provocation 87,9

Caranthir
Blacksmithy 100
Tailoring 100,2
Tinkering 96,3

Sadric
Focus 99,7
Parry 89,6
Wrestling 115
Eval int. 110
Magery 110
Meditation 115
Resi Spells 65,7



thanks for any hints and tips :)
 

TheLetterQ

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I'd focus on Rael and work up some swap around some necro skills on him.

Go something like:
120 Weapon
120 Tactics
120 Bushido
120 Resist Spell/Anatomy
99 Necro
60 Parry
Rest in Chiv.

If you're not 720 skill no biggie but that template is a workhorse.

What shard? If you're on GL I can probably get you a basic suit to work with or imbue you up some training stuff.

Q
 

Merus

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If you want to make use of the Necro already on your mage I like a Nox/Necro for general group spawning and pvp. The template I run is:

Magery 120
Eval 120
Necro 120
Spirit Speak 120
Resist 120
Poison 100

Wraith form compensates for the lack of med in the template during spawns, and I never have an issue with mana during field fighting in pvp.
 

Merus

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I'd focus on Rael and work up some swap around some necro skills on him.

Go something like:
120 Weapon
120 Tactics
120 Bushido
120 Resist Spell/Anatomy
99 Necro
60 Parry
Rest in Chiv.

If you're not 720 skill no biggie but that template is a workhorse.

What shard? If you're on GL I can probably get you a basic suit to work with or imbue you up some training stuff.

Q
This is my sampire template to the T. You are absolutley right its is a workhorse!
 

THP

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Everyone need a samp like this.....kinda ok to go most places....say most....and happily survive ok!!- with the right suit and weapons of course........
 
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Doran

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This is my sampire template to the T. You are absolutley right its is a workhorse!
yes 705 skillcap, damnit :( but i hope its working too with it.
im on drachenfels actualy!

- hmm is 99 necro 120bushido macroable and fast skilled?

dont want to waste my 110 necro on rhuad for just to switching the necro skill to rael.
65 chiv is fast raised from zero, so the 100 chive is going to a mule character ^^.

so:
120 Weapon
120 Tactics
120 Bushido
120 Resist Spell/Anatomy ( whats better for newcomers? already got anatomy to 110, is resisting spells better and easyier to macro )
99 Necro ( why 99 not 100?)
60 Parry
66 chiv


this is nice to farm sa regeants for my new suit right? also also usefull for champs in groups? :)

Thanks alot!!!
 

Xalan Dementia

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ya the sampire is great for multiple monsters attacking you. You want to get a weapon that does the special move Whirlwind.
Skilling bushido isnt too bad, use New Haven to get to 50 fast then you can train with Lightning Strike.

99 necro is the minimum needed to cast the Vampiric embrace so some just leave the skill at 99, since that 1.0 in skill wont make a huge difference in successful casting. if your stuck with the 705 skill cap for a while then 99 necro is fine.

Necro training is pretty easy since most the spells wont need a target. Check out UOguide and the stratics forums/info pages for the most efficient ways of training skills.
 

Merus

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yes 705 skillcap, damnit :( but i hope its working too with it.
im on drachenfels actualy!

- hmm is 99 necro 120bushido macroable and fast skilled?

dont want to waste my 110 necro on rhuad for just to switching the necro skill to rael.
65 chiv is fast raised from zero, so the 100 chive is going to a mule character ^^.

so:
120 Weapon
120 Tactics
120 Bushido
120 Resist Spell/Anatomy ( whats better for newcomers? already got anatomy to 110, is resisting spells better and easyier to macro )
99 Necro ( why 99 not 100?)
60 Parry
66 chiv


this is nice to farm sa regeants for my new suit right? also also usefull for champs in groups? :)

Thanks alot!!!
99 necro is the min to cast vamp form. Most sampires carry around a few extra pieces to bump it up to 110/115 when they need to cast it. When you build the suit you can compesate for the 705 cap by adding 15 chiv to a ring or braclet.

Bushido its pretty easy to train but can be slow above 110. Necro is easy and fast.
 
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Doran

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okay then im droping necro to 99 instead of a new training, if its fast macroable :)
so this template is fine you think? i just need 80 chiv instead of 65, then ill drop parry for a while and get some + parry jewelry later :)
 

LordDrago

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just wondering on the 60 parry. Is that enough, or is it rounded out with parry jewels, and if so, what is the target?

thanks for the info

I was shooting for
120 sword
120 bushido
120 parry
100 anatomy
100 tactics
99 necro
61 chiv
 

Thunderz

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just wondering on the 60 parry. Is that enough, or is it rounded out with parry jewels, and if so, what is the target?

thanks for the info

I was shooting for
120 sword
120 bushido
120 parry
100 anatomy
100 tactics
99 necro
61 chiv
I roll whith that templeate and found no use dropping parry for 3-4 dmg per second in chiv

You can still kill anytyhign solo in game with the old template

Thunderz
 

Merus

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just wondering on the 60 parry. Is that enough, or is it rounded out with parry jewels, and if so, what is the target?

thanks for the info

I was shooting for
120 sword
120 bushido
120 parry
100 anatomy
100 tactics
99 necro
61 chiv
You need a total of 300 skill points between weapon, bushido, and parry to receive the bonus lower mana cost. I don't notice big difference sinse I dropped from 120 parry to 60 parry.
 

LordDrago

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You need a total of 300 skill points between weapon, bushido, and parry to receive the bonus lower mana cost. I don't notice big difference sinse I dropped from 120 parry to 60 parry.
ty Merus
 

LordDrago

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I do know I need to get more HCI. Even with 120 swords, I swing like a drunk white male...swinging at a pinata...at a trailer park party...on America's Funniest Home Videos.

:beer: :beer:
 

Poo

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Leggings of Bane and then +13/15 on each ring and watch and ur ar cap for HCI, put the mace and shield glasses on for the 30 hit lower defense and you'll never miss.

Lightning strike FTW too, +50 HCI.
 

LordDrago

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Leggings of Bane and then +13/15 on each ring and watch and ur ar cap for HCI, put the mace and shield glasses on for the 30 hit lower defense and you'll never miss.

Lightning strike FTW too, +50 HCI.
sweet!

Thanks Poo
 
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Doran

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So there is no perfect cookie cutter build for recomers like me?
 

LordDrago

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So there is no perfect cookie cutter build for recomers like me?
My rule is: Play whatever template you have fun with.


I remember at one point I went almost 6 months playing nothing but my blacksmith...and had a lot of fun doing so.
 
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sirrojen

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I personally prefer wraith form over vamp form, tried both and went back to wraith. Wraith helps keep ur mana up, does not have the -40 fire resist, and only requires 40 necro to never fail casting curse weapon. Only real drawback is no horse. Curse wep = 50% life leech vamp form = 20% life leech.
 

LordDrago

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I personally prefer wraith form over vamp form, tried both and went back to wraith. Wraith helps keep ur mana up, does not have the -40 fire resist, and only requires 40 necro to never fail casting curse weapon. Only real drawback is no horse. Curse wep = 50% life leech vamp form = 20% life leech.
Hmmm
I will have to try this
Thanks
 

Silverbird

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I personally prefer wraith form over vamp form, tried both and went back to wraith. Wraith helps keep ur mana up, does not have the -40 fire resist, and only requires 40 necro to never fail casting curse weapon. Only real drawback is no horse. Curse wep = 50% life leech vamp form = 20% life leech.
While wraith form sounds very similar to vampiric form, those two are different playstyles. Using curse weapon for keeping your health up lowers your karma to a point, where using chiv becomes nearly useless.
 
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elspeth

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I personally prefer wraith form over vamp form, tried both and went back to wraith. Wraith helps keep ur mana up, does not have the -40 fire resist, and only requires 40 necro to never fail casting curse weapon. Only real drawback is no horse. Curse wep = 50% life leech vamp form = 20% life leech.
The sampire also likes to make use of an armored swamp dragon for extra damage mitigation which means you need to be mounted. So yeah, it's two different playstyles.
 
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sirrojen

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While wraith form sounds very similar to vampiric form, those two are different playstyles. Using curse weapon for keeping your health up lowers your karma to a point, where using chiv becomes nearly useless.
I really only use chiv for enemy of one (which is not impacted by karma loss) and the once in a while the occasional close wounds and poison cure. I personally would rather have 30% more life leech then 20% damage mitigation that may end in the middle of a fight if the barding breaks. I would love to be able to be mounted in general, but when I tried vampire form I just could not leech enough life.
 
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Doran

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my actualy FINAL template for the bushido would look like that: (705 skillcap :( )

120 Fencing
120 Tactics
120 Bushido
66 parry ( for the 300 bushido+parry+fencing bonus )
100 Anatomy
99 Necromancy
80 Chiv

any suggestions, anything went wrong with it? should be okay i hope :)


For my Mage ill actualy going something like that:
120 Magery
120 eval
120 Focus
120 Mystic
120 Spellweaving
105 Meditation ( next bonus on 110 right? )


Thanks alot :)
 
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sirrojen

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I'd personally take a hit on ur parry in favor of max anat. I also use imbued rings/bracelets to boost my skils above my skill cap.
 
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Doran

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So anatomy is realy only for the extra damage? It not affects the necro or bushidi healing or anything else? Then maybe switch to 100 parry and only 60 anazomy?
 
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Doran

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someone gave me a clue about healing , droping some tactics for healing, could it be a good point?
 
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