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What temp. are you currently running?

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Lost_Cause

Guest
What temps are people using?

Especially curious about mage temps. For PvP.
 

Tiberius

Babbling Loonie
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
gm anat
gm mage
120 eval
120 resists
110 parry
100 scribe
70 med

Temp requires faction arties.

or

gm anat
gm mage
120 eval
120 resists
120 parry
90 ninja
70 med

or

gm anat
gm mage
120 eval
120 resists
120 parry
90 heal
70 med
 

Speedy Orkit

Grand Inquisitor
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
98(120) fence
97(120) ninja
88(120) stealth
100 hide
100 track
120 resist
117 tact
 
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Hugibear

Guest
gm anat
gm mage
120 eval
120 parry
85 ninja
90 med
105 spellweavin

this temp is great if you are in the guild SP! being we are really the only ones runnin mages, so no need for resist. And the pixies eat up stealthers, trick is to soulstone your weavin, than goto brit with 5 others and get yourself a level 6 arcane focus. Than go back and put your spellweavin back on.
 
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archite666

Guest
gm anat
gm mage
120 eval
120 parry
85 ninja
90 med
105 spellweavin

this temp is great if you are in the guild SP! being we are really the only ones runnin mages, so no need for resist. And the pixies eat up stealthers, trick is to soulstone your weavin, than goto brit with 5 others and get yourself a level 6 arcane focus. Than go back and put your spellweavin back on.
Hm that way you get the focus without needing 5 others with 100 SW?

Is that how it works?
 
L

Lost_Cause

Guest
Anatomy to go with the parry?

Just wondering maybe 120 mage med eval wrestle parry anat?
 
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Bruin

Guest
Anatomy to go with the parry?

Just wondering maybe 120 mage med eval wrestle parry anat?
Yes, and the benefit of that is you only need 100 anatomy freeing up 20 points. Though you lose out on wresting special moves (disarm/stun) and the ability to interrupt another mage with wrestling. Both not used that often.
 
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Lost_Cause

Guest
Yes, and the benefit of that is you only need 100 anatomy freeing up 20 points. Though you lose out on wresting special moves (disarm/stun) and the ability to interrupt another mage with wrestling. Both not used that often.
So anatomy increases the chance for a successfull parry? You lose the benefit for disarm/stun even if you have wrestle/w anatomy?
 
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Timothy_SP

Guest
You lose the benefit for disarm/stun even if you have wrestle/w anatomy?
Tactics and Weapon skill are required to do most special moves now. It was new to me upon my return.

Shadow Strike requires Stealth, not Tactics.
Infectious Strike require Poisoning, not Tactics.

The key Tactics numbers seem to be 70 and 90, depending on the move.
 
F

Førsaken

Guest
Yes, and the benefit of that is you only need 100 anatomy freeing up 20 points. Though you lose out on wresting special moves (disarm/stun) and the ability to interrupt another mage with wrestling. Both not used that often.
So anatomy increases the chance for a successfull parry? You lose the benefit for disarm/stun even if you have wrestle/w anatomy?
Anatomy has nothing to do with parry chance. It's simply evasive wrestling that isn't meant for offensive hits. GM Anatomy + 120 Eval = 120 Evasive Defense.

You do not need tactics (or any other skill for that matter) for wrestling disarm/stun.
 
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Bruin

Guest
So anatomy increases the chance for a successfull parry? You lose the benefit for disarm/stun even if you have wrestle/w anatomy?
The chance to parry and the chance to dodge a hit are two seperate issues.

Wrestling allows you to do three things:
1. Dodge an enemies attack - ie if you have 120 wrestle and your enemy has 120 fencing, they have a 50% chance to hit you.
2. Hit your enemy with a wrestling punch. If you have 120 wrestle and your enemy has 120 fencing, you have a 50% chance to hit them and do wrestling damage (like 2 HP). But more importantly, a 'hit' can disrupt a spell.
3. Use the stun punch or disarm special moves.

However, there is a formula (eval + anatomy + 20)/2 which replaces #1 only (dodge an enemies attack). So 120 eval + 100 anatomy allows you to dodge an enemies attack with the effectiveness of 120 wrestling.

Regarding parry - if you have 120 parry + 80 dex, you have a 30% chance to parry an enemies attack. So what happens is if a person swings at you, they have a 70% chance to get by your parry skill. Then, if they successfully get by your parry, it compares their skill versus your dodge ability for a to hit chance. So if you have 120 dodge ability and they have 120 fencing, they have a 50% chance to hit you. So with 120 parry + 80 dex and 120 dodge versus 120 fencing, they have a 35% chance to hit you. 70% chance to get through your shield, then 50% to hit you after that.
 
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Lost_Cause

Guest
The chance to parry and the chance to dodge a hit are two seperate issues.

Wrestling allows you to do three things:
1. Dodge an enemies attack - ie if you have 120 wrestle and your enemy has 120 fencing, they have a 50% chance to hit you.
2. Hit your enemy with a wrestling punch. If you have 120 wrestle and your enemy has 120 fencing, you have a 50% chance to hit them and do wrestling damage (like 2 HP). But more importantly, a 'hit' can disrupt a spell.
3. Use the stun punch or disarm special moves.

However, there is a formula (eval + anatomy + 20)/2 which replaces #1 only (dodge an enemies attack). So 120 eval + 100 anatomy allows you to dodge an enemies attack with the effectiveness of 120 wrestling.

Regarding parry - if you have 120 parry + 80 dex, you have a 30% chance to parry an enemies attack. So what happens is if a person swings at you, they have a 70% chance to get by your parry skill. Then, if they successfully get by your parry, it compares their skill versus your dodge ability for a to hit chance. So if you have 120 dodge ability and they have 120 fencing, they have a 50% chance to hit you. So with 120 parry + 80 dex and 120 dodge versus 120 fencing, they have a 35% chance to hit you. 70% chance to get through your shield, then 50% to hit you after that.


In perspective now. 120Eval/100 Anatomy = No need for wrestle. Except the fact of distruption and combat abilities disarm/stun. Anatomy has absolutely nothing to do with parry. Correct?
 
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Lost_Cause

Guest
Are wands still an effective way of incorporation with a standard mage temp? ie. gheal/lighting etc..
 
L

Lost_Cause

Guest
Also now that I think back on it the eval/anat = passive fight skill, has been that way for awhile?
 
F

Førsaken

Guest
Are wands still an effective way of incorporation with a standard mage temp? ie. gheal/lighting etc..
Wands now have a cast delay such as a greater heal. The only good part about Wanding, is not being disrupted with regular hits/spells.
 
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Førsaken

Guest
Does deathstrike still work with wrestle?
It works, but you would need Hide + Stealth to do any kind of damage. Therefore, a Hide-Stealth Ninja Mage template would be in order. I ran one when I got back, but I just don't like the fact that I can't toggle specials of any kind (including ninjitsu/bushido) while casting or having a cursor up.
 
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